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Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - page 1468. (Read 4670622 times)

newbie
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Does everything go well now?
If so,I'll mine xmr again.
donator
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GetMonero.org / MyMonero.com
Ok, all binaries updated, this is a mandatory update to 0.8.8.3 -

››› Windows 64-bitOS XLinux •  Source code ‹‹‹

SHA sums for each download:

monero.win.x64.latest.zip - 7b89c14891cab57aa292d3826227c99bd2c8e203
monero.mac.x64.latest.tar.bz2 - 10854bbc549de5eff6609e102a8f778d6e99af29
monero.linux.x64.latest.tar.bz2 - a55945606238ce28f03079691619ae11ca18efc7

Please be advised that after releasing binaries we bump the build number up on github on the staging repo, so if you're building from github you will end up on 0.8.8.4.
legendary
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http://monero.cc/downloads/blockchain/win/blockchain.bin
sha: 8c23da70c1291a61444090d8d5127dd6c12efa81

Burnbit is pretty awesome

I don't know I've used it for other downloads and it always worked fine. I'm not at all a bittorrent expert. Do you know of another easy way to make a torrent for it?
uTorrent can easily create a torrent file and publish it to some public trackers (or maybe even DHT, I haven't used it in a few years). I would do it myself BUT I don't have the blockchain in the first place.

Here's a magnet link for the current Windows blockchain. This is an unofficial service.

Code:
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:6619ad061fa76bb215bece48baf8d5056152541f&dn=Monero%20XMR%20blockchain%20Windows%202014-09-06&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3A80%2Fannounce
hero member
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For me it doen't looks like a developers's driven project. If developers was just hired to create technology, than they are not responsible for... say ..strange marketing ? Isn't it ? Questionable.
It's just my guess.

Sorry but why are you defending a 82% pre-mined fake blockchain like its an innocent marketing mistake, were the crippled miners too? I doubt the guys behind the CN (genius work) had to put up with incompetent market leadership and were "forced" to launch such DOA coin.

I'm not defending anyone. I've just said that i guess that developers are usually hired people that paid for doing the work.

I'm defending technology.

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- I understand it is hard to swallow my text. Perhaps it was too harsh. I try to tone down. I've had a lot of stress lately.

- I admire the CN team's work. The implementation of the world's first functioning anonymous coin tech is a marvellous achievement.

- Now comes the sad part. I think most of the team participated in a scam, and that's why I call them scammers. The BCN coin was said to be 2 years old, but that is a lie. Whoever says that but knows better is a liar. Not good. I am not buying coins from liars or scammers.

For me it doen't looks like a developers's driven project. If developers was just hired to create technology, than they are not responsible for... say ..strange marketing ? Isn't it ? Questionable.
It's just my guess.

All i want to say is that technology and way it is used are two different things.

Technology is opened and transparent. It's not messy - all you need is strong exprience with modern C++ design, passion and maybe little different attitude to it. (not you personally sure Smiley
It's not only my opinion - for example i have another dev who was helped me with some core patches (difficulty adjustment from 64 to 128 bit to be more concrete) - he also gave good feedback about codebase. And also it said dga (Dave Andersen) if i'm not mistaken (correct me if i wrong).


But still - lack of comments in code is a problem for thirdparty developers. I would like to fix this issue but for me is faster to write in C++ than in English language Smiley I guess it's obvious.

....
- I believe now would be a time for a great reconciliation. CryptoNote tech is better than the alternatives, and having someone from the original team working on Monero would be great. It is just that all evil things, scams, malice etc. must be left behind.


Totaly agree with you.


sr. member
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http://monero.cc/downloads/blockchain/win/blockchain.bin
sha: 8c23da70c1291a61444090d8d5127dd6c12efa81

Burnbit is pretty awesome

I don't know I've used it for other downloads and it always worked fine. I'm not at all a bittorrent expert. Do you know of another easy way to make a torrent for it?
uTorrent can easily create a torrent file and publish it to some public trackers (or maybe even DHT, I haven't used it in a few years). I would do it myself BUT I don't have the blockchain in the first place.
legendary
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http://monero.cc/downloads/blockchain/win/blockchain.bin
sha: 8c23da70c1291a61444090d8d5127dd6c12efa81

Burnbit is pretty awesome

Somebody (you?) has added it to Burnbit but the sites reports an error. I have tried adding it too and reached the same error page. Maybe Burnbit cannot acces monero.cc properly?

I don't know I've used it for other downloads and it always worked fine. I'm not at all a bittorrent expert. Do you know of another easy way to make a torrent for it?
sr. member
Activity: 263
Merit: 250
http://monero.cc/downloads/blockchain/win/blockchain.bin
sha: 8c23da70c1291a61444090d8d5127dd6c12efa81

Burnbit is pretty awesome

Somebody (you?) has added it to Burnbit but the sites reports an error. I have tried adding it too and reached the same error page. Maybe Burnbit cannot acces monero.cc properly?
legendary
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Fellow XMRs,

I recently had close to 6 figures in XMR. I used to be in love with this coin. I have sold it all, pending regaining confidence.

(Funny that I heard this same thing in the trollbox today.) You have an obsession on me, you know deep inside it is you who needs to apologize. But you won't do it. You don't even ask me to do anything, just stalk. The door is still open.

To others: this is a personal matter.


Of course you think I have an obsession with you because your ego is larger than your gigantic bald head (I'm kidding) (ok, not really Wink) .

But, seriously, I issue I have with Risto is that he has too much influence over crypto noobs who think because he has a little money, that that makes him smart. But to the rest of us his actions are transparent and not noble.

I like XMR. I hope it suceeds. I will probably reinvest.

But for XMR to succeed it needs to have new representation. Risto hurts the things he touches.

I have praised Risto for certain actions and insights he has provided over the years. When he is on, he can be a useful resource and encouragement to people. But when he's freaking out about his finances, he can become a detriment to the cause.

XMR, BBR, both - I dont care.  Im an early adopter no matter what. But if there is an elephant in the room, we should point it out.
legendary
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http://monero.cc/downloads/blockchain/win/blockchain.bin
sha: 8c23da70c1291a61444090d8d5127dd6c12efa81

Could somebody please make a torrent of this? I have a spotty connection and can only download around 100 MB before something goes wrong.
Thank you.

Burnbit is pretty awesome
sr. member
Activity: 263
Merit: 250
http://monero.cc/downloads/blockchain/win/blockchain.bin
sha: 8c23da70c1291a61444090d8d5127dd6c12efa81

Could somebody please make a torrent of this? I have a spotty connection and can only download around 100 MB before something goes wrong.
Thank you.
legendary
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When will .1 XMR network fee be lowered??

It would have been done by now but "events" got in the way. The next update after this one should have per-KB fees that are lower for small (meaning size in bytes not amount of coins) transactions.

full member
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When will .1 XMR network fee be lowered??
pa
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And the price doesn't have to change for it to get cheaper:  E[p(t)] is increasing monotonically in t.
hypothesis accepted
Could you explain what E[p(t)] means?

E[p(t)] = Expected value of price as a function of time
legendary
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-RP, CZ has seen his project under social engineering attack (FUD campaign, etc.) since before Monero was subject to trolls/hacks

Organized (probably paid) relentless anti-Monero trolls started more or less from day one. The hacks of course are a more recent escalation. Other than that your post makes some good points.
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Monero Core Team
And the price doesn't have to change for it to get cheaper:  E[p(t)] is increasing monotonically in t.
hypothesis accepted
Could you explain what E[p(t)] means?

-David Latapie, the infamous socialist, send me a nice (but cryptic) PM about reposting my "Narcissism of small differences" analysis of the sibling rivalry.   Cool
That my way to say "I like your text so much that I posted it as memorable quote on my Google+ account Smiley

Long live taxes! Wink
legendary
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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
W h a t   a   g r o s s   i r o n y that the most legitimate and economic initial distribution of any cryptocoin existing (and therefore the most potential #2 coin in the months and years to come) happens to be a coin with an unbelievably messy codebase, intentionally made scammy, buggy, unoptimized, crippled and obfuscated by the (B)CN scamdevs.


It's not irony. It's misunderstanding.
You probably was confused when someone convinced you to invest money into CN-based project(or you decided it by yourself) - this is not bitcoin-fork with mature life cycle, this is brand new, developed from scrach software that has a lot of work ahead. Every one who at least little familiar with software development should realize what does it mean, esspecially for software related with security. The problem is that you've missed this fact.

And after an about half year of public run there was found first critical bug that was unfortunately used to exploit with Monero network... (and this is sad, i could understand stress that was felt by all involved in xmr people), but this quality indicator many many times higher than bitcoin development has.
Yeah, it's yet enother good chance to blame CryptoNote devs, but i really doubt that any of XMR devs had done their own cryptocurrency, written from scratch and worked fine. (okay, almost fine  Wink ).

The only problem of CryptoNote codebase is that it's undocumented and don't have comments in code... well, that's true. But this is very different from "unbelievably messy codebase intentionally made scammy, buggy, unoptimized". (And don't take into account CryptoNight PoW hash function since it was really suspicious code, and i also agree about C-code, never understood why people use "C" when this is potentialy buggy language? ).

Compared Bitcoin-based projects and CryptoNote technology it's the same as compare say "ford focus", that is good well-known car, and Tesla-prototype, that has bright ideas, a lot of work behind it, but still not perfect, without instructions and documentations, with a lot of work ahead and unfortunaley with some new bugs there.

So it is not a CN fail, it was just your own choice. That i believe is good choice.


PS: I didn't meant that current Tesla is buggy and without instructions and documentation - i used it juse as an example of something new.


Just my 2 satosi. Sorry for late post.


- I understand it is hard to swallow my text. Perhaps it was too harsh. I try to tone down. I've had a lot of stress lately.

- I admire the CN team's work. The implementation of the world's first functioning anonymous coin tech is a marvellous achievement.

- Now comes the sad part. I think most of the team participated in a scam, and that's why I call them scammers. The BCN coin was said to be 2 years old, but that is a lie. Whoever says that but knows better is a liar. Not good. I am not buying coins from liars or scammers.

- Monero is also using the same tech, and is the only coin that has community-led devs. Certainly they are not so good as you who have created it! I don't believe that the current core team could make it from scratch. I appreciate creative work a lot because that's what I myself do. But I still buy Monero because I just cannot participate in a scam.

- I abhor scam so much that when talking about James, I always mention that I don't have anything against him but something feels scammy. It sounds very stupid and James must be puzzled, but not speaking out when I have a feeling.. is just not my way.

- I believe now would be a time for a great reconciliation. CryptoNote tech is better than the alternatives, and having someone from the original team working on Monero would be great. It is just that all evil things, scams, malice etc. must be left behind.

Hug it out you crazy fellows!   Smiley

-CZ, RP is not a dev and relies on others to evaluate code quality.  If Peter Todd & Co. misstate and over-dramatize the CN code's problems, RP (among others) will accept those expert opinions.  It's not RP's fault that there is so much trolling; he's also a victim of it, but in a different way than you.

-RP, CZ has seen his project under social engineering attack (FUD campaign, etc.) since before Monero was subject to trolls/hacks so he's also been having a 'busy' week, to say the least.  And it's not his fault you didn't buy dirt-cheap BBR, despite it being the obvious hedge.

-Last week, I made an appeal for interdenominational understanding/support/dialog, only to be rudely rebuffed by DTS and others aghast at the mere mention of XMR's sister coin.  It was nice so see others join me in mocking the narcissistic parochial foolishness of the XMR rox - BBR sux fundamentalists, and satisfying seeing half or more of the last week's posts in both coins' threads mention their twin.

-David Latapie, the infamous socialist, send me a nice (but cryptic) PM about reposting my "Narcissism of small differences" analysis of the sibling rivalry.   Cool

-So you are both stressed and should realize these are the good old days which we'll look back on and laugh about someday, preferably in mutual company as we enjoy exquisite wine/cigars at Castle Ristopia!   Grin
legendary
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Sine secretum non libertas
such action around here  Roll Eyes

are we gonna see cheap XMR again?  Grin

It is cheap right now.

And the price doesn't have to change for it to get cheaper:  E[p(t)] is increasing monotonically in t. 
legendary
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such action around here  Roll Eyes

are we gonna see cheap XMR again?  Grin

It is cheap right now.
legendary
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Fellow XMRs,

I recently had close to 6 figures in XMR. I used to be in love with this coin. I have sold it all, pending regaining confidence.

(Funny that I heard this same thing in the trollbox today.) You have an obsession on me, you know deep inside it is you who needs to apologize. But you won't do it. You don't even ask me to do anything, just stalk. The door is still open.

To others: this is a personal matter.


Trolls going to troll. Ignore and move forward.
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