Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - page 1469. (Read 4670622 times)

such action around here 

are we gonna see cheap XMR again? 

(Funny that I heard this same thing in the trollbox today.) You have an obsession on me, you know deep inside it is you who needs to apologize. But you won't do it. You don't even ask me to do anything, just stalk. The door is still open.

To others: this is a personal matter.

I am somewhat gratified to hear this.  It explains most of the selling, and it means the coins are in more stable hands.  You always have been a tad...excitable.  If you panic buy back it should mean a fair bit of incremental demand.  I shall have to frontrun that...sorry.

And how do you propose that the DEVS do that? Since when is it the DEVS responsibility to 'muzzle' people? Opinions are like assholes. Everyone has one, well except if you have a colostomy shit bag of FUD to spread.

Led by the nose much? If I had 6 figures in XMR, with its price rise, I would not have sold.

Are you spreading FUD? Did you really have that many coins?

* smooth checks the secret control panel deep inside Monero headquarters.

Nope, no button on there to shut up people who post on bitcointalk. He says what he wants. I don't really care what he says, although some of it I find interesting, much of it I don't. So far I'm not finding you very interesting though.

Ok, let me be more clear. Rpietila is HURTING the reputation of XMR. You guys need to put a muzzle on him. Immediately. People are starting to despise him across the crypto world - from east to west. If you guys dont see this, look around. If you are in an XMR bubble please step out of it. The tides are turning against Risto and unfortunatley against XMR>

^ Only spokespeople, and even then only when it is clear they are speaking on behalf of the project and not as individuals.

Glad I could help clear that up for you.

Fellow XMRs,

I recently had close to 6 figures in XMR. I used to be in love with this coin. I have sold it all, pending regaining confidence.

One of the reasons I lost confidence was the desperation I am seeing in the figure heads of the XMR community - the epitome of which is in desperate scared nonnsensical threads like this one ---> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/is-it-possible-to-destroy-monero-xmr-771925

I would hope that the leaders in this community would talk to and reign in your "spokespeople" who are giving this coin a HORRIBLE reputation. The fear mongering and arrogance that is thinly masked insecurity is depressing. Please think about taking this coin in a different PR direction. Thank you.

No it hasn't been proven. It's a reasonable suspicion he had some involvement based on his knowledge of the code (I would say more than familiarity) and the stuff in the rethink-your-strategy post (though I found that part of the post pretty unconvincing) but what that involvement might have been I don't think anyone really has any idea, or they're not saying.

EDIT: Furthermore this is getting very off-topic for the Monero thread. Please take it elsewhere.

Has it been proven that zoidberg is part of the original team or is it still suspicion due to his familiarity with the code?

I don't ever remember CZ saying that, but perhaps you weren't implying that anyway.

As far as the people who do clearly and loudly put forward that sham, I have no disagreement with what you said.

- I understand it is hard to swallow my text. Perhaps it was too harsh. I try to tone down. I've had a lot of stress lately.

- I admire the CN team's work. The implementation of the world's first functioning anonymous coin tech is a marvellous achievement.

- Now comes the sad part. I think most of the team participated in a scam, and that's why I call them scammers. The BCN coin was said to be 2 years old, but that is a lie. Whoever says that but knows better is a liar. Not good. I am not buying coins from liars or scammers.

- Monero is also using the same tech, and is the only coin that has community-led devs. Certainly they are not so good as you who have created it! I don't believe that the current core team could make it from scratch. I appreciate creative work a lot because that's what I myself do. But I still buy Monero because I just cannot participate in a scam.

- I abhor scam so much that when talking about James, I always mention that I don't have anything against him but something feels scammy. It sounds very stupid and James must be puzzled, but not speaking out when I have a feeling.. is just not my way.

- I believe now would be a time for a great reconciliation. CryptoNote tech is better than the alternatives, and having someone from the original team working on Monero would be great. It is just that all evil things, scams, malice etc. must be left behind.

^ makes some excellent points. 

It's not irony. It's misunderstanding.
You probably was confused when someone convinced you to invest money into CN-based project(or you decided it by yourself) - this is not bitcoin-fork with mature life cycle, this is brand new, developed from scrach software that has a lot of work ahead. Every one who at least little familiar with software development should realize what does it mean, esspecially for software related with security. The problem is that you've missed this fact.

And after an about half year of public run there was found first critical bug that was unfortunately used to exploit with Monero network... (and this is sad, i could understand stress that was felt by all involved in xmr people), but this quality indicator many many times higher than bitcoin development has.
Yeah, it's yet enother good chance to blame CryptoNote devs, but i really doubt that any of XMR devs had done their own cryptocurrency, written from scratch and worked fine. (okay, almost fine  ).

The only problem of CryptoNote codebase is that it's undocumented and don't have comments in code... well, that's true. But this is very different from "unbelievably messy codebase intentionally made scammy, buggy, unoptimized". (And don't take into account CryptoNight PoW hash function since it was really suspicious code, and i also agree about C-code, never understood why people use "C" when this is potentialy buggy language? ).

Compared Bitcoin-based projects and CryptoNote technology it's the same as compare say "ford focus", that is good well-known car, and Tesla-prototype, that has bright ideas, a lot of work behind it, but still not perfect, without instructions and documentations, with a lot of work ahead and unfortunaley with some new bugs there.

So it is not a CN fail, it was just your own choice. That i believe is good choice.


PS: I didn't meant that current Tesla is buggy and without instructions and documentation - i used it juse as an example of something new.


Just my 2 satosi. Sorry for late post.

Release candidate on github (master) for those prepared to pull, build and test. For the rest, an official announcement expected soon.

https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero

I know it is in progress though.
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It inspires...Some asteroid flies to visit us... May all be over soon? Perhaps go to bed...
Hope I will wake up if something goes wrong! 

I have to say I agree. Apparently the Windows builds are taking a long time. Being in a No Windows Zone, I have no understanding of this and find it perplexing but I also have nothing to do with this part of the process. I know it is in progress though.

Unless you needing it is a priority, may I suggest you get some sleep.  It's been 20 hrs from since soon and 3 1/2 hrs since imminent and it seems that they have a little while to go yet.

smooth & blaaaaacksuit, thanks, guys. I was pleased to find out it! I look forward to this event! And you can post  here when it will happen ? I'll feel much better in this case! I'll be waiting.... if I don't fall asleep 1:30 am