Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - page 1483. (Read 4670622 times)
September 04, 2014, 03:23:41 PM
XMR is trading again on poloniex.
September 04, 2014, 03:23:28 PM
Could someone explain this to me:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8673348
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8673348
duckNote is not vulnerable for double spend attack, because XDN do not have any blockchain split, but Monero has it for more than 10 hours, that is why:
Monero is still vulnerable for double spend attack!
Monero is still vulnerable for double spend attack!
They are saying that because we got hacked and they didn't (I wonder why), even though they had the same exact vulnerability in their code that somehow we are vulnerable and they are not. You can't fix stupid.
September 04, 2014, 03:22:42 PM
I guess the whole, it was around for 2 years but nobody ever knew anything about was pretty scammy and near impossible.
It was not around for two years. Read the thread.
Thank you for your support during our recent challenge and generally.
I think you both agree. If you read his statement with some quote marks:
I guess the whole "it was around for two years but nobody ever knew anything" [thing] was pretty scammy and near impossible.
you're in violent accord.
this seems impossible in today's world
when I am tired, my english it becomes weaker
September 04, 2014, 03:18:59 PM
test https://mega.co.nz/#!rbggbrgbrgbrgbLINKTRASHEDBrbrgbrgbrgbgrjw win64 blockchain #203437 block
I am opposed to users taking this without a prior blessing from a core member.
No shit. That is craziness. DO NOT DOWNLOAD THIS.
September 04, 2014, 03:17:09 PM
XMR is the future.
September 04, 2014, 03:16:15 PM
Could someone explain this to me:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8673348
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8673348
duckNote is not vulnerable for double spend attack, because XDN do not have any blockchain split, but Monero has it for more than 10 hours, that is why:
Monero is still vulnerable for double spend attack!
Monero is still vulnerable for double spend attack!
September 04, 2014, 03:14:56 PM
W h a t a g r o s s i r o n y that the most legitimate and economic initial distribution of any cryptocoin existing (and therefore the most potential #2 coin in the months and years to come) happens to be a coin with an unbelievably messy codebase, intentionally made scammy, buggy, unoptimized, crippled and obfuscated by the (B)CN scamdevs.
XMR is not the most legitimate and economic initial distribution of any cryptocoin existing. There are other people(myself included) who have gone to great lengths to attempt to create the fairest possible initial distribution for a cryptocurrency.
The XMR distribution obviously had some minor issues which don't need to be brought up again. And I'm not here to say anything negative about XMR in anyway(in fact while I'm here, congrats devs on handling this attack well) but it's probably best just to stick to facts.
You mean dga? I thought he sold most of his mined coins as he mined making it not a distribution problem.
September 04, 2014, 03:14:10 PM
We have published an official solution, which is in testing.
https://github.com/rfree2monero/bitmonero/commit/8f17999a87f4f1025e46cc940900a7bdea9747ce
https://github.com/rfree2monero/bitmonero/commit/8f17999a87f4f1025e46cc940900a7bdea9747ce
September 04, 2014, 03:13:47 PM
I'm a bit confused here, can I do anything with my coins right now or do I have to wait for a new wallet rebuild, and then resync first?
If you are on the correct blockchain you are fine and you could send and receive XMR. If you are not in a hurry you could wait the fix to be released first. 
September 04, 2014, 03:12:07 PM
W h a t a g r o s s i r o n y that the most legitimate and economic initial distribution of any cryptocoin existing (and therefore the most potential #2 coin in the months and years to come) happens to be a coin with an unbelievably messy codebase, intentionally made scammy, buggy, unoptimized, crippled and obfuscated by the (B)CN scamdevs.
XMR is not the most legitimate and economic initial distribution of any cryptocoin existing. There are other people(myself included) who have gone to great lengths to attempt to create the fairest possible initial distribution for a cryptocurrency.
Hah, contradiction already in the second line. Sorry to say but your logic has been going down since last year.
September 04, 2014, 03:09:47 PM
I'm a bit confused here, can I do anything with my coins right now or do I have to wait for a new wallet rebuild, and then resync first?
September 04, 2014, 03:09:36 PM
W h a t a g r o s s i r o n y that the most legitimate and economic initial distribution of any cryptocoin existing (and therefore the most potential #2 coin in the months and years to come) happens to be a coin with an unbelievably messy codebase, intentionally made scammy, buggy, unoptimized, crippled and obfuscated by the (B)CN scamdevs.
XMR is not the most legitimate and economic initial distribution of any cryptocoin existing. There are other people(myself included) who have gone to great lengths to attempt to create the fairest possible initial distribution for a cryptocurrency.
The XMR distribution obviously had some minor issues which don't need to be brought up again. And I'm not here to say anything negative about XMR in anyway(in fact while I'm here, congrats devs on handling this attack well) but it's probably best just to stick to facts.
September 04, 2014, 02:59:55 PM
I guess the whole, it was around for 2 years but nobody ever knew anything about was pretty scammy and near impossible.
It was not around for two years. Read the thread.
Thank you for your support during our recent challenge and generally.
I think you both agree. If you read his statement with some quote marks:
I guess the whole "it was around for two years but nobody ever knew anything" [thing] was pretty scammy and near impossible.
you're in violent accord.
Yes, you are correct. James, I misunderstood and agree with your perspective. i will delete my post but the content of it remains here.
September 04, 2014, 02:57:20 PM
I guess the whole, it was around for 2 years but nobody ever knew anything about was pretty scammy and near impossible.
It was not around for two years. Read the thread.
Thank you for your support during our recent challenge and generally.
I think you both agree. If you read his statement with some quote marks:
I guess the whole "it was around for two years but nobody ever knew anything" [thing] was pretty scammy and near impossible.
you're in violent accord.
September 04, 2014, 02:51:51 PM
It's a new codebase, and it was inherited from an unknown set of developers whose motivations, competence, and trustworthiness are unknown.
Motivations are unknown.
Competence is by this point somewhat known, and appears mixed.
Trustworthiness is well known and is anything but favorable.
Caveat emptor.
September 04, 2014, 02:49:05 PM
test https://mega.co.nz/#!qtUnhC5A!sJnKzPyj9gg0aFcoUZwtNhgjZVB3MHzc1zM6gjw win64 blockchain #203437 block
I am opposed to users taking this without a prior blessing from a core member.
No such blessing. I have no idea what that is, but I most certainly don't recommend downloading it.
September 04, 2014, 02:48:12 PM
Well, thanks, at least some recognition
Are you Andrey Sabelnikov? I know I've asked before, but it's interesting, and if you're not, it doesn't reduce your anonymity set significantly to say so. Even Satoshi was willing to say that he is not Dorian Nakamoto.
At this point, unless you say that you are not, I will conclude that you are. It in no way impugns your code, and I've done crazier things myself than those which Andrey is most famous for, so I don't think it should undermine confidence in your work, or the coin upon which you focus, if you are in fact Andrey. It is open source, widely reviewed, and your work speaks for itself.
(Frankly I think persistent anonymity is more dangerous to BBR than any colorful personal history could be. That BBR is able to maintain as much value as it has (at least recently) despite the uncertainty overhang of your anonymity is a testament to the confidence placed in open source review, and in the quality of your work, a confidence which your identification could not feasibly undermine in a persistent material way. But that's just my opinion.)
He doesn't have to answer that, of course.
Your point that anonymity raises trust and reputational risks is valid, but if he's willing to pay that price, it's his choice.
Some of us here on the Monero team are anonymous, at least mildly so. Arguably the project would benefit reputationally if more of us weren't, but that's a choice we make.
September 04, 2014, 02:37:09 PM
XMR is exciting.
So much emotion and entertainment around.
Funny to see all the anti-XMR trolls out and about.
I'll be waiting to buy on a dip for XMR when trading opens.
So much emotion and entertainment around.
Funny to see all the anti-XMR trolls out and about.
I'll be waiting to buy on a dip for XMR when trading opens.
Would be funny if we don't even see a dip
September 04, 2014, 02:36:12 PM
XMR is exciting.
So much emotion and entertainment around.
Funny to see all the anti-XMR trolls out and about.
I'll be waiting to buy on a dip for XMR when trading opens.
So much emotion and entertainment around.
Funny to see all the anti-XMR trolls out and about.
I'll be waiting to buy on a dip for XMR when trading opens.
September 04, 2014, 02:25:35 PM
While I agree with you, you must admit that the trolls and hacks have created an environment of suspicion, and it is natural that the anonymous dev, for whom there is in fact a fair body of circumstantial evidence of participation in the original cryptonote implementation, should attract that suspicion. I'm hoping that CZ will dispell some of the FUD around BBR. If people frankly voice their concerns, they may be dispelled more promptly. You help by rightly observing there is a lack of material evidence for this specific suspicion, but the factors which allow suspicion to fester in the background remain, and getting them aired out may disinfect.
When you have a couple hours, pop in The Candidate, starring Joan Allen.
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