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Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - page 1505. (Read 4670972 times)

r05
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test cryptocoin please ignore

The coin is bound by the code that makes up its codebase.  As I will not be auditing all of the code there is going to be some trust in the developers involved here.  David Latapie's state socialist views are a stain on this project, and he cannot be trusted around the codebase of an anonymous coin.  If he is not involved in actual coding then he would be even easier to replace.  I believe I have provided enough evidence that I am not a "troll", but it doesn't really matter.  I haven't and won't mention any other coins in this thread (and haven't posted in any others).

In the end you owe me no satisfaction.  I have and can drop the price....but only a little bit and the coin will recover or keep falling based on nothing related to me.  I still hold significant amounts and will buy no more.....so I have no interest in trolling or creating that dread FUD.  I am looking for a good exit, and will make sure I do so while turning a nice BTC profit.



That isn't how you use that meme Cheesy
legendary
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stuff

All the socialists that I know are dead set against the actions you seem to think that they are committed to.

They are in 3 counties and include 3 generations.

Personally I don't sleep with pigeons.  I eat pudding.
legendary
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The coin is bound by the code that makes up its codebase.  As I will not be auditing all of the code there is going to be some trust in the developers involved here.  David Latapie's state socialist views are a stain on this project, and he cannot be trusted around the codebase of an anonymous coin.  If he is not involved in actual coding then he would be even easier to replace.  I believe I have provided enough evidence that I am not a "troll", but it doesn't really matter.  I haven't and won't mention any other coins in this thread (and haven't posted in any others).

In the end you owe me no satisfaction.  I have and can drop the price....but only a little bit and the coin will recover or keep falling based on nothing related to me.  I still hold significant amounts and will buy no more.....so I have no interest in trolling or creating that dread FUD.  I am looking for a good exit, and will make sure I do so while turning a nice BTC profit.

If I remember correctly, David Latapie is not a developer anyhow, so I don't really know what your concern is.

More than anything, it looks like you're just looking for yet another angle to attack monero and spread FUD. Don't be surprised that your objections are met with a little hostility, because frankly we're all getting a bit tired of people coming up with stupid excuses as to why this remarkably fair coin is somehow untrustworthy.

The term "developer" is a bit ambiguous which is why we usually prefer core team, but often the term developer or dev is used to describe whoever it is that owns or manages a coin project. David is part of the core team but he is not a developer in the sense of software developer or programmer that is true. He is more involved with business development, branding and strategy, writing, managing some of the volunteers, plus other non-programmming tasks as they come along.

I agree the FUD and general negativity isn't really helpful, at least once you have made your point. If you don't like the coin, just move on, preferably quietly. There are hundreds of others to choose from.


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The coin is bound by the code that makes up its codebase.  As I will not be auditing all of the code there is going to be some trust in the developers involved here.  David Latapie's state socialist views are a stain on this project, and he cannot be trusted around the codebase of an anonymous coin.  If he is not involved in actual coding then he would be even easier to replace.  I believe I have provided enough evidence that I am not a "troll", but it doesn't really matter.  I haven't and won't mention any other coins in this thread (and haven't posted in any others).

In the end you owe me no satisfaction.  I have and can drop the price....but only a little bit and the coin will recover or keep falling based on nothing related to me.  I still hold significant amounts and will buy no more.....so I have no interest in trolling or creating that dread FUD.  I am looking for a good exit, and will make sure I do so while turning a nice BTC profit.

If I remember correctly, David Latapie is not a developer anyhow, so I don't really know what your concern is.

More than anything, it looks like you're just looking for yet another angle to attack monero and spread FUD. Don't be surprised that your objections are met with a little hostility, because frankly we're all getting a bit tired of people coming up with stupid excuses as to why this remarkably fair coin is somehow untrustworthy.
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The coin is bound by the code that makes up its codebase.  As I will not be auditing all of the code there is going to be some trust in the developers involved here.  David Latapie's state socialist views are a stain on this project, and he cannot be trusted around the codebase of an anonymous coin.  If he is not involved in actual coding then he would be even easier to replace.  I believe I have provided enough evidence that I am not a "troll", but it doesn't really matter.  I haven't and won't mention any other coins in this thread (and haven't posted in any others).

In the end you owe me no satisfaction.  I have and can drop the price....but only a little bit and the coin will recover or keep falling based on nothing related to me.  I still hold significant amounts and will buy no more.....so I have no interest in trolling or creating that dread FUD.  I am looking for a good exit, and will make sure I do so while turning a nice BTC profit.


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This is my first post here, but I am not a "troll".  I am a significant holder, accumulating over the last months, and you can tell by my twitter @indiemaps that I have supported Monero in the past.  But I can't see how anybody can trust the socialist devs of this project after the revelations of the past few days.  I will not dump b/c I believe there is more BTC to be made off this flavor of the season coin.  But I have certainly lost my trust and faith in the coin and team.

The developers claim to want to separate the monetary system from the government, yet David Latapie also believes in socialist education, redistributionist schemes, and forced/violent taxation.  How this is compatible with an anonymous cryptocurrency is beyond me.

I and I hope all the other anarchists who have supported this coin in the past need to move on....to a coin with nonviolent developers who do not wish to force their views of society on us.

Dear me, you seem to have forgotten to think before posting.

They are forgetting that the coin is bound by mathematical reason rather than the reason of the developers.

Unless they actively worked to make Monero unanonymous (and useless) I can't see what all this fuss is about, for sure, indiemaps is a troll.

The coin is bound by the code that makes up its codebase.  As I will not be auditing all of the code there is going to be some trust in the developers involved here.  David Latapie's state socialist views are a stain on this project, and he cannot be trusted around the codebase of an anonymous coin.  If he is not involved in actual coding then he would be even easier to replace.  I believe I have provided enough evidence that I am not a "troll", but it doesn't really matter.  I haven't and won't mention any other coins in this thread (and haven't posted in any others).

In the end you owe me no satisfaction.  I have and can drop the price....but only a little bit and the coin will recover or keep falling based on nothing related to me.  I still hold significant amounts and will buy no more.....so I have no interest in trolling or creating that dread FUD.  I am looking for a good exit, and will make sure I do so while turning a nice BTC profit.
legendary
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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
bee bee are
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bee tee see


Please try to stay on topic.

Bwah-ha-ha-ha!  Well played, old smooth.   Grin
legendary
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bee bee are
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bee tee see

Please try to stay on topic.
legendary
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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
It's more likely VB just skimmed DGA's post and didn't realize that it was Bytecoin that came out with the crippled miner. The soap opera involving Bytecoin, CryptoNote, Bitmonero, Monero, Quazarcoin, Boolberry, etc. . . is so tangled. And on top of that, there is the FUD spread by the Bytecoin scammers and sockpuppets.  It's not surprising that outsiders have a hard time appreciating why Monero deserves to be taken seriously.

I would be willing to chip in for an article about the history of Monero - just the facts. I would be willing to chip in recurrently if the article were to be maintained up-to-date.

dga's blog post is a great factual article about the history of Monero.  If some geeky kid with a massive conflict of interest accidentally misinterprets/intentionally misrepresents it, that's not our problem.

And pa, How Dare YouTM mention other coins in our narrow-minded Monero-only thread?  Don't you know how much butthurt will flow through the partisans if you even allude to the existence of Monero's Cryptonote siblings?

You must say 100 Hail Tacos for writing the forbidden letters ('bee bee are') in this sanctum sanctorum of the One True CN implementation.  Even speaking of [bee tee see] is completely off-topic, don'tcha know?   Grin
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It's more likely VB just skimmed DGA's post and didn't realize that it was Bytecoin that came out with the crippled miner. The soap opera involving Bytecoin, CryptoNote, Bitmonero, Monero, Quazarcoin, Boolberry, etc. . . is so tangled. And on top of that, there is the FUD spread by the Bytecoin scammers and sockpuppets.  It's not surprising that outsiders have a hard time appreciating why Monero deserves to be taken seriously.

I would be willing to chip in for an article about the history of Monero - just the facts. I would be willing to chip in recurrently if the article were to be maintained up-to-date.
legendary
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Sine secretum non libertas
My little sister could have read dga's post and not get as confused as the supposed genius Vitalik...
Your little sister, does she have an upcoming IPO perchance?  Any shares available?
pa
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Definately worth reading DGA´s reply, kudos for that dga.



+1. An excellent response and exactly the right sort of tone.

anyone got a link to the post?

It's a comment thread on dga's blog post.

They went back and forth a few times and VB backpedaled, severely, although still seems intent on leaving anti-XMR wiggle words in there:

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If the current Monero developers were not involved in that, then awesome, they are completely cool and legit folks in my view





My little sister could have read dga's post and not get as confused as the supposed genius Vitalik, this is a very disappointing move from him and I bet he was hoping no one would challenge him.

I'm sure he has been hoping all along that Ethereum would walk cosily into the number two spot unchallenged and now a number two competitor is growing strong, well the final desperate attack is FUD and lies.

It's more likely VB just skimmed DGA's post and didn't realize that it was Bytecoin that came out with the crippled miner. The soap opera involving Bytecoin, CryptoNote, Bitmonero, Monero, Quazarcoin, Boolberry, etc. . . is so tangled. And on top of that, there is the FUD spread by the Bytecoin scammers and sockpuppets.  It's not surprising that outsiders have a hard time appreciating why Monero deserves to be taken seriously.
legendary
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Definately worth reading DGA´s reply, kudos for that dga.



+1. An excellent response and exactly the right sort of tone.

anyone got a link to the post?

It's a comment thread on dga's blog post.

They went back and forth a few times and VB backpedaled, severely, although still seems intent on leaving anti-XMR wiggle words in there:

Quote
If the current Monero developers were not involved in that, then awesome, they are completely cool and legit folks in my view





My little sister could have read dga's post and not get as confused as the supposed genius Vitalik, this is a very disappointing move from him and I bet he was hoping no one would challenge him.

I'm sure he has been hoping all along that Ethereum would walk cosily into the number two spot unchallenged and now a number two competitor is growing strong, well the final desperate attack is FUD and lies.
legendary
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This is my first post here, but I am not a "troll".  I am a significant holder, accumulating over the last months, and you can tell by my twitter @indiemaps that I have supported Monero in the past.  But I can't see how anybody can trust the socialist devs of this project after the revelations of the past few days.  I will not dump b/c I believe there is more BTC to be made off this flavor of the season coin.  But I have certainly lost my trust and faith in the coin and team.

The developers claim to want to separate the monetary system from the government, yet David Latapie also believes in socialist education, redistributionist schemes, and forced/violent taxation.  How this is compatible with an anonymous cryptocurrency is beyond me.

I and I hope all the other anarchists who have supported this coin in the past need to move on....to a coin with nonviolent developers who do not wish to force their views of society on us.

Dear me, you seem to have forgotten to think before posting.

They are forgetting that the coin is bound by mathematical reason rather than the reason of the developers.

Unless they actively worked to make Monero unanonymous (and useless) I can't see what all this fuss is about, for sure, indiemaps is a troll.
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Note the unconventional cAPITALIZATION!
This is my first post here, but I am not a "troll".  I am a significant holder, accumulating over the last months, and you can tell by my twitter @indiemaps that I have supported Monero in the past.  But I can't see how anybody can trust the socialist devs of this project after the revelations of the past few days.  I will not dump b/c I believe there is more BTC to be made off this flavor of the season coin.  But I have certainly lost my trust and faith in the coin and team.

The developers claim to want to separate the monetary system from the government, yet David Latapie also believes in socialist education, redistributionist schemes, and forced/violent taxation.  How this is compatible with an anonymous cryptocurrency is beyond me.

I and I hope all the other anarchists who have supported this coin in the past need to move on....to a coin with nonviolent developers who do not wish to force their views of society on us.

Dear me, you seem to have forgotten to think before posting.
legendary
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Definately worth reading DGA´s reply, kudos for that dga.



+1. An excellent response and exactly the right sort of tone.

anyone got a link to the post?

It's a comment thread on dga's blog post.

They went back and forth a few times and VB backpedaled, severely, although still seems intent on leaving anti-XMR wiggle words in there:

Quote
If the current Monero developers were not involved in that, then awesome, they are completely cool and legit folks in my view



sr. member
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Definately worth reading DGA´s reply, kudos for that dga.



+1. An excellent response and exactly the right sort of tone.

anyone got a link to the post?
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wallet upgrade in progress at Bittrex ?
Ohh no ... not now  Angry
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wallet upgrade in progress at Bittrex ?
legendary
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Antifragile
Some good news, cointelegraph just published a well done article about rpietila generous endeavors and they have mentioned Monero: Grin

http://cointelegraph.com/news/112411/finnish-investor-plans-to-turn-estonian-castle-into-a-bitcoin-center

Nice article, thx for posting it.
I didn't know Risto was going to have some of Monero moving into the BTC Castle (so to speak).  Grin
Congrats and thanks for the support Risto.

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