Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - page 1509. (Read 4670622 times)

It's functioning properly - no harm in any of those notifications. Those are other users' transactions being rejected for insufficient fees and one closed connection (ordinary network behavior).

Drooling Masses update.

After much trepidation about updating due to never having done so before, I just successfully did so.  Windows 8.1, what else would The Drooling Masses have, and it couldn't have been easier.  The deleted p2pstate.bin has recreated itself but not the poolstate.bin.  I haven't closed the daemon yet so maybe it has yet to happen.  Also the "seed" command didn't work before updating and now it works.  My coins are safe and sound.  Below is a copy of the continuous errors I am now getting.  I believe it had been posted a few days ago but I don't remember what was said.

2014-Aug-31 23:09:44.401790 [P2P3]ERROR ..\..\src\cryptonote_core\tx_pool.cpp:91
 transaction fee is not enough: 0.009000000000, minumim fee: 0.100000000000
2014-Aug-31 23:09:44.401790 [P2P3]Transaction verification failed: <7f1da07abb12
057c0dda36cc22b5889e5e621374df9fa894b64f0ca8e2c6dcf0>
2014-Aug-31 23:09:44.417415 [P2P3][212.175.132.210:53944 INC]Tx verification fai
led, dropping connection
2014-Aug-31 23:09:46.151806 [P2P4]ERROR ..\..\src\cryptonote_core\tx_pool.cpp:91
 transaction fee is not enough: 0.009000000000, minumim fee: 0.100000000000
2014-Aug-31 23:09:46.151806 [P2P4]Transaction verification failed: <7f1da07abb12
057c0dda36cc22b5889e5e621374df9fa894b64f0ca8e2c6dcf0>
2014-Aug-31 23:09:46.151806 [P2P4][42.159.201.221:1040 INC]Tx verification faile
d, dropping connection
2014-Aug-31 23:10:02.761347 [P2P0]ERROR ..\..\src\cryptonote_core\tx_pool.cpp:91
 transaction fee is not enough: 0.009000000000, minumim fee: 0.100000000000
2014-Aug-31 23:10:02.761347 [P2P0]Transaction verification failed: <7f1da07abb12
057c0dda36cc22b5889e5e621374df9fa894b64f0ca8e2c6dcf0>
2014-Aug-31 23:10:02.761347 [P2P0][121.8.54.188:64976 INC]Tx verification failed
, dropping connection
2014-Aug-31 23:12:54.934930 [P2P2][sock 1144] Some problems at write: An existin
g connection was forcibly closed by the remote host:10054

1. It is Torvalds not Torvald.

2. It is Linux not UNIX.

3. Linus Torvalds is one of very few individual developers who successfully made the transition to leader and manager of a very large and very successful project. Avoid hasty generalization.

Naw, he uses percentages. Anything more than smells more than 13.37% socialist and indiemap is out. Quick, hide the Marxists!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-mover_advantage

And by first mover, first cryptonote based token to reach $5m market cap and a decent trading volume - this without an official GUI, SPV wallet (web or mobile), etc.

I'm curious about indiemaps's anti-socialism prerequisities. If there's one socialist, does he automatically reject the open source project? Or does one free market-proponent and one socialist cancel out? Is there a weighting function? So many questions.

Technology isn't about 1 particular ideology - if it were then it would remain niche and no one would use it, similar to Linux on the desktop. Technology is neutral and it can support anarchists, libertarians as well as moderates just fine. If you want to participate in something that is accepted by critical mass, then be prepared to work with and support others who do not share your worldviews. I, for one, do not want Bitcoin, Monero or any other revolutionary value token inventions to remain niche - if they do, they they will die and be replaced by GoogleCoin or FacebookBucks. Uggh.

I think he's just mandating that they not be extreme statists.

How could you possibly mandate that all developers of an open source project conform to a certain set of political views? Why would you care, as long as the product performs as advertised?

Both projects are open source, so anyone may contribute code.  It's very nice that we have two good, but significantly different, CN-based coins to choose from.  XMR represents the democratic, bottom-up approach.  BBR represents the top-down Benevolent Dictator For Life model that worked so well for Linus Torvald's UNIX.  I think both twins will be winners!

The man asked a legitimate question, by refusing to answer and dismissing them as a troll attempting to drag 'us' down it does a disservice to the project you support.

TL;DR the answer was


TooDumbForBitcoin

Maybe its changed recently but the biggest issue I had with BBR in the first few weeks of it and XMR existing was that BBR is entirely the work of a single developer. He certainly appears prolific and talented but to achieve and maintain growth in the marketplace I believe any coin reaches a point where it needs a team to manage it, and BBR's dev doesn't appear to be the sort of person to devolve responsibility. At some point I suspect it will go the way of many promising tech startups and falter when the key person can no longer juggle all the balls.

lol. did you not grow up in the 80's, or are oblivious to anything before 1996? Seriously. You said it, not me!  edit - or are you just joking?

I'm too dumb for anarchy.

I preferred the original unedited version

hint. don't feed the trolls. they will only drag us down. 

My answer to AnonX#1 above is also responsive to your question.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8617725

How many devs are there? How many of them are socialists? What specifically are the socialists working on? What harm do you suppose would be caused by a socialist developing the code? Do you expect that he will sabotage it so that governments can persecute its users?

Im willing to entertain your argument but we will certainly need more argument on specifically what harm you think this will cause.

Agreed

i guess people choose xmr because

* Liquidity
* By investing you are joining a crowd that doesn't have a history of going down with sinking ships.
* Crowd that has a history of making things happen, joined together in unison
* Great marketing and community relations
* Powerful community, network effect
* Exaggerated promises of huge gains, not seen since the days of bitcoin itself- everybody want's easy chance to turn 100$ into 100k... and that's what is projected here
* 'untainted'

of course there's a few more. tl;dr its all about perception. people here picked a horse and continue to back it because it makes sense to do so.

Get used to it.  Crypto is interesting to people from all parts of the political spectrum, from many cultures, languages, races, philosophies, religions, &c.  David is a very reasonable and pleasant, hard-working person.  I undoubtedly differ with him substantially in many areas of thought.   I don't see why that would make it infeasible to work together with him on shared interests.  (Note that I am not a member of the XMR core team.)

If you want to build a pervasive global currency, you're going to need resources from all parts of the political spectrum to do it.  As I see it, Monero is a technology project, which happens to serve the interest of human liberty.  Even socialists love their liberty.  They merely conceive it differently and/or make different compromises than do ancaps.