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XMR/Monero could replace the anonymity of Swiss numbered bank accounts.
why not any other cryptonote coin (existing or to come)? ---> serious question
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August 31, 2014, 08:09:14 PM
why not any other cryptonote coin (existing or to come)? ---> serious question
August 31, 2014, 07:51:02 PM
Many people are using it not only anarchists. I hope many people around the world will be using it everyday
The initial users for Bitcoin were anarchists, libertarians and users interested in drug purchases or gambling over the internet. Since then it has expanded greatly to include a wider swath of the population, albeit still rather small compared to competing financial solutions.
Satoshi had privacy in mind when he created Bitcoin as he covered that in his original whitepaper. If there's one area where Bitcoin is flawed, it's that it falls short of being truly private and anonymous. Given the momentum BTC currently enjoys and the amount of inertia associated with making major protocol level changes for a multi billion dollar airplane in flight, it's rather unlikely that true privacy and anonymity will be adopted.
This is the reason that XMR/Monero is of interest, even in a paradigm with the winner taking most of the market. As a minimum, Bitcoin replaces gold as a superior store of value. XMR/Monero could replace the anonymity of Swiss numbered bank accounts.
August 31, 2014, 07:19:24 PM
Many people are using it not only anarchists. I hope many people around the world will be using it everyday
If we could just get all of the anarchists to use it, that would be a pretty good start.
August 31, 2014, 07:10:09 PM
BBR also released five days prior to XMR.
This is incorrect. Bitmonero (old name for XMR) thread started on April 9 and the genesis block launched on April 18. The BBR thread was created on April 20, and the genesis block launched May 17.
I will let others comment on why they choose one or the other (or both). Obviously as a core team member any comment I would make can't be separated from at least the appearance of bias. However the above comments are factual, so bias is not an issue.
Thank you for clarifying. Sorry for my misunderstanding of info regarding the release dates.
I understand avoidance of voicing bias, but I would like to hear from you guys as well what makes the project worth pushing forward.
August 31, 2014, 07:04:32 PM
Many people are using it not only anarchists. I hope many people around the world will be using it everyday
August 31, 2014, 06:58:06 PM
BBR also released five days prior to XMR.
This is incorrect. Bitmonero (old name for XMR) thread started on April 9 and the genesis block launched on April 18. The BBR thread was created on April 20, and the genesis block launched May 17.
I will let others comment on why they choose one or the other (or both). Obviously as a core team member any comment I would make can't be separated from at least the appearance of bias. However the above comments are factual, so bias is not an issue.
August 31, 2014, 06:54:02 PM
I'm not trying to troll or spam, so please don't think I'm trying to stir up trouble.
I would just like some answers regarding Monero and its competition:
I'm seeing a lot of people proposing that Monero is pretty much Bitcoin 2.0,
I'm having a hard time understanding how it is stronger than its competitors. Bitcoin
was revolutionary, and it was pretty much the first currency in this regard.
But I'm not seeing that in Monero, specifically in regards to its feature set.
Right now it uses a LOT of RAM, has no GUI [I don't mind the CLI], and is pretty slow.
I understand the devs have put a lot of work into Monero and these things are being worked on,
but why should people choose Monero over BoolBerry? BBR also released five days prior to XMR.
Can someone elaborate on why you are choosing XMR over BBR?
I currently only hold some Monero [no BBR though].
I would just like some answers regarding Monero and its competition:
I'm seeing a lot of people proposing that Monero is pretty much Bitcoin 2.0,
I'm having a hard time understanding how it is stronger than its competitors. Bitcoin
was revolutionary, and it was pretty much the first currency in this regard.
But I'm not seeing that in Monero, specifically in regards to its feature set.
Right now it uses a LOT of RAM, has no GUI [I don't mind the CLI], and is pretty slow.
I understand the devs have put a lot of work into Monero and these things are being worked on,
but why should people choose Monero over BoolBerry? BBR also released five days prior to XMR.
Can someone elaborate on why you are choosing XMR over BBR?
I currently only hold some Monero [no BBR though].
August 31, 2014, 06:51:38 PM
is the database integration the main part of the new qt interface?
missive said still a lot work to be done, just interested what kind of parts need to be accomplished ..
missive said still a lot work to be done, just interested what kind of parts need to be accomplished ..
The database integration is independent of the GUI. In theory either could happen without the other. However, we don't feel that wider use without database integration is a good idea, so we want to see the database working before an official GUI release (testing GUI prereleases including the one already available are fine).
August 31, 2014, 06:49:51 PM
moneropool.com --- down???
yes, it appears so.
Disclaimer - just a miner, not an op...
August 31, 2014, 06:38:10 PM
Only altcoin exchanges we are missing right now is btc38 and cryptsy, we should get monero added to that! Spoke to fluffypony also on IRC and the GUI wallet is taking some time because the lack of funds.. If more funds would be donated they could hire skilled developers to speed up the work.
I still have 100 monero pledged for as soon as they get the database completed. I only have 2 gigs of ram on here and i dont want to deal with trying to run it on the hard drive
Really? Sell the 100 XMR and upgrade your hardware. It's a thought.
Cant be upgraded. There is no expansion slot. 2 gb of ram should be plenty for this sort of application. its not a cutting edge video game.
I'll just wait. OK. But I am persistent. Check these out, cost being right about the current value of 100 XMR [4GB RAM, 64 bit Win OS's available, portable, quality manufacturer]
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B003O7R6JY/ref=dp_olp_0?ie=UTF8&condition=all
Donating to the team helps XMR more than donating to Dell!
Steady progress is being made on the database.
is the database integration the main part of the new qt interface?
missive said still a lot work to be done, just interested what kind of parts need to be accomplished ..
August 31, 2014, 06:27:18 PM
Only altcoin exchanges we are missing right now is btc38 and cryptsy, we should get monero added to that! Spoke to fluffypony also on IRC and the GUI wallet is taking some time because the lack of funds.. If more funds would be donated they could hire skilled developers to speed up the work.
I still have 100 monero pledged for as soon as they get the database completed. I only have 2 gigs of ram on here and i dont want to deal with trying to run it on the hard drive
Really? Sell the 100 XMR and upgrade your hardware. It's a thought.
Cant be upgraded. There is no expansion slot. 2 gb of ram should be plenty for this sort of application. its not a cutting edge video game.
I'll just wait. OK. But I am persistent. Check these out, cost being right about the current value of 100 XMR [4GB RAM, 64 bit Win OS's available, portable, quality manufacturer]
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B003O7R6JY/ref=dp_olp_0?ie=UTF8&condition=all
Donating to the team helps XMR more than donating to Dell!
Steady progress is being made on the database.
August 31, 2014, 06:17:32 PM
Only altcoin exchanges we are missing right now is btc38 and cryptsy, we should get monero added to that! Spoke to fluffypony also on IRC and the GUI wallet is taking some time because the lack of funds.. If more funds would be donated they could hire skilled developers to speed up the work.
I still have 100 monero pledged for as soon as they get the database completed. I only have 2 gigs of ram on here and i dont want to deal with trying to run it on the hard drive
Really? Sell the 100 XMR and upgrade your hardware. It's a thought.
Cant be upgraded. There is no expansion slot. 2 gb of ram should be plenty for this sort of application. its not a cutting edge video game.
I'll just wait. OK. But I am persistent. Check these out, cost being right about the current value of 100 XMR [4GB RAM, 64 bit Win OS's available, portable, quality manufacturer]
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B003O7R6JY/ref=dp_olp_0?ie=UTF8&condition=all
August 31, 2014, 06:05:28 PM
moneropool.com --- down???
August 31, 2014, 05:57:07 PM
August 31, 2014, 05:54:34 PM
Only altcoin exchanges we are missing right now is btc38 and cryptsy, we should get monero added to that! Spoke to fluffypony also on IRC and the GUI wallet is taking some time because the lack of funds.. If more funds would be donated they could hire skilled developers to speed up the work.
I still have 100 monero pledged for as soon as they get the database completed. I only have 2 gigs of ram on here and i dont want to deal with trying to run it on the hard drive
Really? Sell the 100 XMR and upgrade your hardware. It's a thought.
Cant be upgraded. There is no expansion slot. 2 gb of ram should be plenty for this sort of application. its not a cutting edge video game.
I'll just wait. August 31, 2014, 05:35:43 PM
It was mentioned that in the next Missive there would be info on donations. Something along the lines of something tangible for donations given. I am curious to learn what this is. It has been delayed due to problems that arose and had to be dealt with. I have been looking forward to it.
August 31, 2014, 05:35:09 PM
Only altcoin exchanges we are missing right now is btc38 and cryptsy, we should get monero added to that! Spoke to fluffypony also on IRC and the GUI wallet is taking some time because the lack of funds.. If more funds would be donated they could hire skilled developers to speed up the work.
I still have 100 monero pledged for as soon as they get the database completed. I only have 2 gigs of ram on here and i dont want to deal with trying to run it on the hard drive
Really? Sell the 100 XMR and upgrade your hardware. It's a thought.
August 31, 2014, 05:31:13 PM
Anarchists support Monero.
August 31, 2014, 05:05:13 PM
What a load of crap that is. Did he actually say that? "Gimme money pl0x, we hire better people"
I think it's more a case of a lot of the 'core' team devs also need to work in order to, you know, feed themselves and pay bills etc. So work on Monero has to fit around that. If they had more donations, they could spend more time focusing on Monero or pay other developers to work on details whilst they coordinate the effort. Unless you think they should just work for free/pay developers out of their own pockets because they owe it to you somehow?
This is what happens with a 'fair launch' where the developer hasn't pre/insta-mined a lot of the coin themselves. The only Monero they will have is from their own mining endeavours and any donations they receive, so they're not sitting on a mountain of coin they can sell fund development.
It is as simple as this.
There are a lot of separate work items. We are burning through them as fast as we can, with a combination of core dev time, volunteers, and programmers we have hired for specific tasks. We can't do them all at once, and we have to prioritize. But the more funding we have, the more hours we get from the paid developers and the more time core devs can afford to put into the project, and potentially we can hire more programmers too (but we will only hire people we are sure are highly qualified regardless of how much funding is available).
Everything we think is important will get done, either way, but more funding (and more qualified volunteers) means more gets done faster.
In all honestly I don't think everything needs to happen right away anyway. A lot needs to move into place before adoption can become much more widespread, and not all of that involves software development at all. So maybe don't take this as saying we don't need funding, because we do, but it isn't as necessary as the instant gratification seekers might suggest.
August 31, 2014, 04:58:41 PM
Only altcoin exchanges we are missing right now is btc38 and cryptsy, we should get monero added to that! Spoke to fluffypony also on IRC and the GUI wallet is taking some time because the lack of funds.. If more funds would be donated they could hire skilled developers to speed up the work.
What a load of crap that is. Did he actually say that? "Gimme money pl0x, we hire better people"Jump to: