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Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - page 1534. (Read 4670972 times)

legendary
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Merit: 1000

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Am I correct that this shows the median monero holder on your list currently holds ~20k USD worth of Monero?



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Count         89
Average   10,206
Median       3500

Survey Link:

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/10FFq_viVaY_THsToPNEwgTxrBSGVxW1EzeYPHX_2nuQ/viewform?usp=send_form

Idiot.
legendary
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1000

Update:
Now 59 entries on the list.




Am I correct that this shows the median monero holder on your list currently holds ~20k USD worth of Monero?



Update:


Count         89
Average   10,206
Median       3500

Survey Link:

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/10FFq_viVaY_THsToPNEwgTxrBSGVxW1EzeYPHX_2nuQ/viewform?usp=send_form
legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1011
Monero Evangelist
I would like to thank all Monero developers and core team members for their great work. I really have big respect for you guys.

For me, the Monero project seams to be one of the first serious & significant incremental innovation (German: "Verbesserungsinnovation") with great potential, after the break-through basis innovation (of) Crypto-Currency and all it's madness and 1000 projects/meander/trial and error efforts and growing pains scene-wide (scams, BS projects, coins lost, lessons learned...).


Never Stop That Feeling Wink
donator
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1060
GetMonero.org / MyMonero.com
2014/08/24 Monero Blockchain Spam Attack - Post Mortem

Part I

A slightly deeper analysis around the transactions and the timeline will come out in part 2 tomorrow, along with the Monero Missive (delayed to give us time to focus on this priority;)

On 2014/08/24 a spam attack was launched against the Monero blockchain. Up to that point, Monero had a relatively low fixed fee per transaction of 0.005 XMR (under 1 US cent per transaction). This allowed the attacker to broadcast extremely large transactions every 5 seconds.

For the most part, the network worked as expected. The dynamic block size limit allowed the max block size to grow, and transactions were broadcast without incident. However, the (relatively) slow expansion in the median block size, among other things, lead to some transactions taking some time to confirm. This is not the usual turn of events - normally an increase in usage occurs over a couple of days in a best case scenario (Monero is featured on Dr Phil and Oprah, and every Monero user gets a whale once they check under their seat). At its worst, there were ~400 transactions in the memory pool that were waiting to be confirmed. The sudden, sharp, drastic increase means that the network needed to adjust, and in the interim some transactions took anything from a few extra minutes to an hour longer than usual.

Let's look at the actual effect on the blockchain:



From our average of around ~1750 transactions a day, the network spiked to 3255 transactions on the day of the attack - an 86% increase! Nonetheless, the network survived and handled it quite well.



Block time should average around 60 seconds. As you can see, there was no drastic change in our average daily block time, indicative of the network's robustness as it sought to maintain the 60 second average.



Blockchain growth over August was 6.684mb per day. Because of the attack, blockchain growth over the past two days was 20.326mb (23rd) and 15.05mb (24th). This is a net effect of 13.642mb extra + 8.366mb extra = 22mb more than average over the period.



As a final note of interest, you can see the minor dip in yesterday's block reward, as the block penalty kicked in to prevent too many large blocks being created.

Within the space of about 4 hours we had finalised and deployed a temporary fix that ramped the fee up. Thanks to the hard work and availability of pool operators and exchange operators on a Saturday afternoon/evening, we were able to get a large enough portion of the network to shift over to incorporate the change. Those pool operators that were unavailable in the wee hours of Saturday evening picked up the change on Sunday, and as of Sunday morning the network has recovered completely, bar 22mb of extra unnecessary transactions.

The ramp up to 0.1 XMR fees stopped the attacker dead in their tracks, and gives us a bit of time to regroup and finalise the changes we were making that will permanently prevent this in future.
legendary
Activity: 1442
Merit: 1001
I'm relatively new to Monero transaction performance. I requested a XMR withdrawal from MintPal a few hours ago - nothing showing as of yet in my wallet. I don't have the transaction or hash from MintPal, so I can't look up the transaction in a block explorer. How long does it generally take for MintPal to process XMR withdrawals?

What status of your withdrawal? Did you confirm it by link in email? AFAIK there must be a tx hash regardless of their daemon version.

I confirmed via email within a minute of performing the withdrawal.  By default they don't seem to provide a tx hash. Should I wait 24 hours? Or open a support ticket?

Go to http://chainradar.com/xmr/blocks

Look in the Transaction pool (you might have to click on "Show all" to see all of it). Do you see something that looks like it might be your transaction (in terms of approximate amount, time sent, etc.)? If not, and if you haven't received it, then they never successfully sent it and you should contact them right away. If you do see your transaction there, you can continue to wait a while and see if it confirms.

In general this is not the best place to ask about exchange support issues (you should just contact them) but I understand with the attack and upgrade there have been atypical concerns the past couple of days.


Restarted the wallet app a 2nd time and this time the transaction showed up. And yeah, I know that this isn't exchange support - just wanted to get some feedback since I'm new to Monero. Really appreciate the assistance!
legendary
Activity: 2968
Merit: 1198
I'm relatively new to Monero transaction performance. I requested a XMR withdrawal from MintPal a few hours ago - nothing showing as of yet in my wallet. I don't have the transaction or hash from MintPal, so I can't look up the transaction in a block explorer. How long does it generally take for MintPal to process XMR withdrawals?

What status of your withdrawal? Did you confirm it by link in email? AFAIK there must be a tx hash regardless of their daemon version.

I confirmed via email within a minute of performing the withdrawal.  By default they don't seem to provide a tx hash. Should I wait 24 hours? Or open a support ticket?

Go to http://chainradar.com/xmr/blocks

Look in the Transaction pool (you might have to click on "Show all" to see all of it). Do you see something that looks like it might be your transaction (in terms of approximate amount, time sent, etc.)? If not, and if you haven't received it, then they never successfully sent it and you should contact them right away. If you do see your transaction there, you can continue to wait a while and see if it confirms.

In general this is not the best place to ask about exchange support issues (you should just contact them) but I understand with the attack and upgrade there have been atypical concerns the past couple of days.


legendary
Activity: 1442
Merit: 1001
I'm relatively new to Monero transaction performance. I requested a XMR withdrawal from MintPal a few hours ago - nothing showing as of yet in my wallet. I don't have the transaction or hash from MintPal, so I can't look up the transaction in a block explorer. How long does it generally take for MintPal to process XMR withdrawals?

What status of your withdrawal? Did you confirm it by link in email? AFAIK there must be a tx hash regardless of their daemon version.

I confirmed via email within a minute of performing the withdrawal.  By default they don't seem to provide a tx hash. Should I wait 24 hours? Or open a support ticket?
hero member
Activity: 644
Merit: 502

Update:
Now 59 entries on the list.




Am I correct that this shows the median monero holder on your list currently holds ~20k USD worth of Monero?




lulz

The data is unverified.  I entered honest data into the survey form, but what is to prevent me from submitting another one with falsified and exaggerated data?
sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250

Update:
Now 59 entries on the list.




Am I correct that this shows the median monero holder on your list currently holds ~20k USD worth of Monero?




lulz
legendary
Activity: 3766
Merit: 5146
Note the unconventional cAPITALIZATION!

Update:
Now 59 entries on the list.





Am I correct that this shows the median monero holder on your list currently holds ~20k USD worth of Monero?

member
Activity: 259
Merit: 10
Hey everyone, have a problem. My wallet is eating up almost all of my memory. bitmonerod is using 3.5GB of my 6Gb of ram (4Gb Stick and 2GB stick). I'll buy another 4GB  stick tomorrow, but really, 3.5GB? wow...
Any tips or suggestions on how to reduce this memory hog?
My system is currently not that stable (i have others things using memory too).


Thats what i`m talking about.. I got 8 GB of RAM and soon that will not be enough. In few months with this tempo we will need 16 GB.

and btw new wallet can`t sync at all... GZ... and even you can`t "end task" him... and you can`t even reboot PC... Since that bitmonerod.exe window simply won`t close. LOL
As i say. Old wallet eating memory too but working as should.
 Nice update..

You have to type "exit" in daemon CLI prompt in order to gracefully quit daemon. You have to bootstrap your blockchain.bin by downloading it and copying to %APPDATA%/Bitmonero folder. And also, hopefully in few months there will be database solution for blockchain. Yes, currently bitmonerod is greedy for RAM.

If you updated daemon, delete p2pstate.bin and poolstate.bin.


I already do that. I even removed blockchain.bin and NEW bitmonerod.exe won`t even start downloading. Just few Kb/s and that`s it.
and yes i know that i need to type exit. I was mining monero since cpu only.
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1131
I believe the devs were saying your patch is bad for the network.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8510849
Did you change it since you posted the (dangerous?) code?

Yes, I have remove my patch just after moneropool make update . ( more 6H now )

Sorry my pool is best for network . I have not include TX with fee lower off 0.1XMR 2H after commit . I have not wait 12H and 6H after get information off patch .

If i used my patch is only for my pool continue work for patience other big pool make update mandatory .

My patch as only not disconnect bad pool is not impact off network . Juste old bad bitmonord continue connected to my pool .

If you are not ok with my check all block found per my pool after commit mandatory update and all block 2 other major pool .

I'll have to break my pool because I was the first to make update ?
While others pool wait update is majoritary on network for make update ?

Which is more harmful?
Pool make update immediatly after mandatory update ? (This even though there a small patch)
Or pool wait network make update before make update ?

Incompetent developers who don't even understand the importance of avoiding DoS attacks now and in the future should definitely not be relied on. Also, please hire a translator/communicator who speaks English fluently, or else, don't host a pool. It's sad to see that you cannot even follow the steps which I provided on the previous page...

I would suggest boycotting this pool for now, as the admin seems not to care about the network's security.


I'm the translator.
Let me do this :

Yes I removed my temporary fix just after the main monero pool did the patch update. It's been over 6 hours since.
I'm sorry but I think that I chose the right decision for the network. I was the first to update, only 2 hours after the devs submitted the patch. Some pool waited between 6 to 12 hours before updating, knowing there was a mandatory update.
I used a fix only to keep my pool working while the other pools made the mandatory update.
The only thing that my fix did was protecting from a fork.
If you don't believe me, check and compare the block history since the update between pools.
At that moment, I was thinking 'why would I break my pool and lose all the miners for being the first to update ?'
What would you do in my case ?
Update immediately ? Wait ? Let the pool go down ? Try to fix it ?


I hope this help understanding the situation. There is no need to fight and argue about it. It was a difficult and stressful situation.
It is all over now and the Monero network is safe.

Thanks
hero member
Activity: 509
Merit: 500
Keep up the good work team. I'm not a super techie nerd, but i know enough that programming this stuff can be a B!tch and is super tedious.
I may be "captain obvious" by stating my memory bloat and my unstable computer, but I guess the more people talk about it the more emphasis will be put on this problem.
At least IMHO.

Maybe with the XMR i'm holding (200), I will be able to buy a better computer Smiley

Thanks All!!
hero member
Activity: 509
Merit: 500
Hey everyone, have a problem. My wallet is eating up almost all of my memory. bitmonerod is using 3.5GB of my 6Gb of ram (4Gb Stick and 2GB stick). I'll buy another 4GB  stick tomorrow, but really, 3.5GB? wow...
Any tips or suggestions on how to reduce this memory hog?
My system is currently not that stable (i have others things using memory too).

I'm seeing 32mb physical RAM, 5.82gb virtual, on my Macbook Air (that only has 4gb RAM). Your OS *should* do really good memory paging to virtual memory *if* you have sufficient VM configured. I'm not sure if Windows is super bad at this, but with OS X, as it is currently configured on my entry-level Macbook Air with 4gb RAM, I can get up to ~20gb RAM usage without getting much past the 32mb physical RAM used.

Thats what i`m talking about.. I got 8 GB of RAM and soon that will not be enough. In few months with this tempo we will need 16 GB.

and btw new wallet can`t sync at all... GZ... and even you can`t "end task" him... and you can`t even reboot PC... Since that bitmonerod.exe window simply won`t close. LOL
As i say. Old wallet eating memory too but working as should.
 Nice update..
And one more thing... Got 162 wallets on C:\Wallets and they ALL working, few need to be deleted but ok...

See above - virtual memory isn't the same as physical memory. If you're adding physical RAM to keep up then your OS is paging really badly.

HOWEVER...we are pushing ahead with the embedded database as quickly as possible. It's an incredibly involved and intense change, due to the consequences and edge-cases that may be encountered, but we are pushing as hard as we can to get it done as quickly as we can.

Thank you.
hero member
Activity: 509
Merit: 500
Hey everyone, have a problem. My wallet is eating up almost all of my memory. bitmonerod is using 3.5GB of my 6Gb of ram (4Gb Stick and 2GB stick). I'll buy another 4GB  stick tomorrow, but really, 3.5GB? wow...
Any tips or suggestions on how to reduce this memory hog?
My system is currently not that stable (i have others things using memory too).


This is not wallet, it's bitmonerod using big amount of ram. You can create a VM where it can swap, you can limit memory usage of process by using cgroups in linux and store the rest in swap.

Sorry, dont know linux or how to do a vm swap.
legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1011
Monero Evangelist
Hey everyone, have a problem. My wallet is eating up almost all of my memory. bitmonerod is using 3.5GB of my 6Gb of ram (4Gb Stick and 2GB stick). I'll buy another 4GB  stick tomorrow, but really, 3.5GB? wow...
Any tips or suggestions on how to reduce this memory hog?
My system is currently not that stable (i have others things using memory too).

If u are nerdy and into UNIX check:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cgroups
donator
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1060
GetMonero.org / MyMonero.com
Hey everyone, have a problem. My wallet is eating up almost all of my memory. bitmonerod is using 3.5GB of my 6Gb of ram (4Gb Stick and 2GB stick). I'll buy another 4GB  stick tomorrow, but really, 3.5GB? wow...
Any tips or suggestions on how to reduce this memory hog?
My system is currently not that stable (i have others things using memory too).

I'm seeing 32mb physical RAM, 5.82gb virtual, on my Macbook Air (that only has 4gb RAM). Your OS *should* do really good memory paging to virtual memory *if* you have sufficient VM configured. I'm not sure if Windows is super bad at this, but with OS X, as it is currently configured on my entry-level Macbook Air with 4gb RAM, I can get up to ~20gb RAM usage without getting much past the 32mb physical RAM used.

Thats what i`m talking about.. I got 8 GB of RAM and soon that will not be enough. In few months with this tempo we will need 16 GB.

and btw new wallet can`t sync at all... GZ... and even you can`t "end task" him... and you can`t even reboot PC... Since that bitmonerod.exe window simply won`t close. LOL
As i say. Old wallet eating memory too but working as should.
 Nice update..
And one more thing... Got 162 wallets on C:\Wallets and they ALL working, few need to be deleted but ok...

See above - virtual memory isn't the same as physical memory. If you're adding physical RAM to keep up then your OS is paging really badly.

HOWEVER...we are pushing ahead with the embedded database as quickly as possible. It's an incredibly involved and intense change, due to the consequences and edge-cases that may be encountered, but we are pushing as hard as we can to get it done as quickly as we can.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1003
Hey everyone, have a problem. My wallet is eating up almost all of my memory. bitmonerod is using 3.5GB of my 6Gb of ram (4Gb Stick and 2GB stick). I'll buy another 4GB  stick tomorrow, but really, 3.5GB? wow...
Any tips or suggestions on how to reduce this memory hog?
My system is currently not that stable (i have others things using memory too).


Thats what i`m talking about.. I got 8 GB of RAM and soon that will not be enough. In few months with this tempo we will need 16 GB.

and btw new wallet can`t sync at all... GZ... and even you can`t "end task" him... and you can`t even reboot PC... Since that bitmonerod.exe window simply won`t close. LOL
As i say. Old wallet eating memory too but working as should.
 Nice update..

You have to type "exit" in daemon CLI prompt in order to gracefully quit daemon. You have to bootstrap your blockchain.bin by downloading it and copying to %APPDATA%/Bitmonero folder. And also, hopefully in few months there will be database solution for blockchain. Yes, currently bitmonerod is greedy for RAM.

If you updated daemon, delete p2pstate.bin and poolstate.bin.
member
Activity: 259
Merit: 10
Hey everyone, have a problem. My wallet is eating up almost all of my memory. bitmonerod is using 3.5GB of my 6Gb of ram (4Gb Stick and 2GB stick). I'll buy another 4GB  stick tomorrow, but really, 3.5GB? wow...
Any tips or suggestions on how to reduce this memory hog?
My system is currently not that stable (i have others things using memory too).


Thats what i`m talking about.. I got 8 GB of RAM and soon that will not be enough. In few months with this tempo we will need 16 GB.

and btw new wallet can`t sync at all... GZ... and even you can`t "end task" him... and you can`t even reboot PC... Since that bitmonerod.exe window simply won`t close. LOL
As i say. Old wallet eating memory too but working as should.
 Nice update..
And one more thing... Got 162 wallets on C:\Wallets and they ALL working, few need to be deleted but ok...
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1003
Hey everyone, have a problem. My wallet is eating up almost all of my memory. bitmonerod is using 3.5GB of my 6Gb of ram (4Gb Stick and 2GB stick). I'll buy another 4GB  stick tomorrow, but really, 3.5GB? wow...
Any tips or suggestions on how to reduce this memory hog?
My system is currently not that stable (i have others things using memory too).


This is not wallet, it's bitmonerod using big amount of ram. You can create a VM where it can swap, you can limit memory usage of process by using cgroups in linux and store the rest in swap.
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