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Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - page 1725. (Read 4670614 times)

hero member
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I woudl appreaciate some help :\

I downloaded wolf miner, but when i execute minerd, the window closes right away...

Also, how do I copy paste command lines into the command windows? -_-
legendary
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If there is a CN ASIC, will the dev core commit to changing the hash, in the case where it is substantially more cost-effective than cpu or gpu mining?


That would be a centralized decision, and by doing so it would greatly undermine the trust people have in the coin. I think it is pretty much impossible for any coin established (except if it's really a matter of life and death, say if the hash function is broken).
For instance Bitcoin would go to less than a $ instantly if a bunch of guys (the devs of bitcoin core) would decide to switch from sha256 to another hash function, no matter the motivations behind.
And if it's not established, well there's no ASIC...

This is a misconception of how p2p coins work. The users and miners have to agree to upgrade, and this is a decentralized, not centralized, decision. They can refuse to upgrade, ignoring the developers. Inevitably new developers would come forward to take over maintaining and developing the old fork, as has happened countless times in open source when the original developers made some decision not supported by a significant portion of the user base.

With bitcoin it is much too late, because the miners already have hundreds of millions of dollars invested in ASICs and the users simply want security and stability so they would likely stay with the miners. The devs' fork by adopted by no one and would die.

But this is not necessarily true for a coin if the change were made before a large investment were made in ASICs. In fact miners might well prefer not being arms-raced into giving money to ASIC developers for no real gain to themselves and support the fork. Users would likely support it as well, since ASICs would lead to increased centralization and many users are likely also small scale miners (especially for a coin where CPU mining remains viable, as with this one).

Furthermore if the decision is made ahead of time, or even just left open as an option ahead of time, there is no loss of trust, because there was no commitment to not change, and therefore no breach of trust. While there is no stated commitment on the part of the developers of this coin to change the PoW for any particular reason, changes have been considered. At one point there was thought given to throwing out CryptoNight and replacing it with one of the functions in widespread use (but of course keeping the rest of the cryptonote functionality such as ring signatures, etc. -- the two are in fact not linked at all).

There is no change under consideration at the present time, but don't count on there never being a change.
legendary
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Still wild and free
If there is a CN ASIC, will the dev core commit to changing the hash, in the case where it is substantially more cost-effective than cpu or gpu mining?


That would be a centralized decision, and by doing so it would greatly undermine the trust people have in the coin. I think it is pretty much impossible for any coin established (except if it's really a matter of life and death, say if the hash function is broken).
For instance Bitcoin would go to less than a $ instantly if a bunch of guys (the devs of bitcoin core) would decide to switch from sha256 to another hash function, no matter the motivations behind.
And if it's not established, well there's no ASIC...
legendary
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No Gui wallet it will down to 0.002
sr. member
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Oh so this is the home of ltc super troll dakota, he's not making you guys any friends  Kiss
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Dont use the basic wallet miner for pool mining, most pools dont support it any more. Try CPUminer-multi, Claymore's GPU miner (for AMD gfx cards) or there is ccminer for Nvidia now. 1st post of this thread has download links.

I see, http://monero.crypto-pool.fr/#getting_started i downloaded easyminer there, how do I get access to the wallet with the address created by that miner?
sr. member
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so foolishly I downloaded the win32 client and generated a new address. Now I have XMR on the address. Is there a way I can use my wallet.bin file on a linux platform to access my funds with the current blockchain? Or is it necessary to use a win32 client from now on whenever I want to access my funds? (I tried a win64 client, it wouldn't open my wallet.)

doesn't matter what os you use.

I believe this holds true for both cryptonote and bitcoin protocol
legendary
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Sine secretum non libertas
If there is a CN ASIC, will the dev core commit to changing the hash, in the case where it is substantially more cost-effective than cpu or gpu mining?
sr. member
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Dont use the basic wallet miner for pool mining, most pools dont support it any more. Try CPUminer-multi, Claymore's GPU miner (for AMD gfx cards) or there is ccminer for Nvidia now. 1st post of this thread has download links.
hero member
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HELP a noob.

1 - using monero wallet GUI to mine i get:



2 - Using CryptoNoteminer, it mines but where is the wallet where the coins are mined to? I only see the address...
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"Trading Platform of The Future!"
so foolishly I downloaded the win32 client and generated a new address. Now I have XMR on the address. Is there a way I can use my wallet.bin file on a linux platform to access my funds with the current blockchain? Or is it necessary to use a win32 client from now on whenever I want to access my funds? (I tried a win64 client, it wouldn't open my wallet.)
Move wallet.bin.keys wherever you want to access funds, it will work on all platforms. wallet.bin only holds the sync data, and I don't think the Windows version is compatible with the linux version.

A new wallet.bin for your address will be generated if you put wallet.bin.keys in the directory where you try to open wallet.bin. simplewallet will rescan the blockchain for your transactions and then you can send funds.
newbie
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so foolishly I downloaded the win32 client and generated a new address. Now I have XMR on the address. Is there a way I can use my wallet.bin file on a linux platform to access my funds with the current blockchain? Or is it necessary to use a win32 client from now on whenever I want to access my funds? (I tried a win64 client, it wouldn't open my wallet.)
legendary
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Whimsical Pants
Could it be the problem that I'm behind a corporate firewall. My internet connection is really fast. How often is the blockchain updated in OP's post?

Coming up to date from where you are would take ~10 minutes on my home connection...
newbie
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Could it be the problem that I'm behind a corporate firewall. My internet connection is really fast. How often is the blockchain updated in OP's post?
donator
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GetMonero.org / MyMonero.com
Website has been extensively redesigned, we're just putting the finishing touches on it before we upload it

Thank you very much! I've just mentioned html markup errors...

What about main issue - bloating database on disk and bloating exe-file memory footprint? Both are nearly ~1.3-1.5Gb? Do you replace boost solution by leveldb as in Bitcoin?

Boost is a set of libraries used in Monero, they aren't really replaceable:)

Even when we've moved to an embedded database, it will grow linearly as the blockchain grows. However, it will vastly reduce the memory footprint required by the running daemon, as we will only need to keep a small number of blocks in RAM, and just maintain the current utxoset.
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Website has been extensively redesigned, we're just putting the finishing touches on it before we upload it

Thank you very much! I've just mentioned html markup errors...

What about main issue - bloating database on disk and bloating exe-file memory footprint? Both are nearly ~1.3-1.5Gb? Do you replace boost solution by leveldb as in Bitcoin?

member
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IS THIS NORMAL? This has been going on for 2 days now, I downloaded from OP a recent blockchain.

2014-Jun-27 00:11:57.571893 [P2P8][220.162.134.106:18080 OUT]Sync data returned unknown top block: 94300 -> 103046 [8746 blocks (6 days) behind]

From practical point of view, I have not lost no XMR coins. Sometimes, bitmonerod writes messages even weirder than this. Sometimes it seems to stop accepting new blocks. I just restart it. And all seems ok.

All we waiting for new fixes form Monero devs! But I say - I CAN work with Monero even with these issues. No one case I caught that data was damaged or my transaction was lost. Large transactions do not pass sometimes, I divide them in half-parts simply.
legendary
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Whimsical Pants
IS THIS NORMAL? This has been going on for 2 days now, I downloaded from OP a recent blockchain.

2014-Jun-27 00:11:57.571893 [P2P8][220.162.134.106:18080 OUT]Sync data returned unknown top block: 94300 -> 103046 [8746 blocks (6 days) behind]
SYNCHRONIZATION started
... ... ...

2014-Jun-27 00:15:46.455855 [P2P4][107.170.157.169:18080 OUT]Sync data returned unknown top block: 94300 -> 103049 [8749 blocks (6 days) behind]

I'd save and restart.  Looks like you have a terrible internet connection.
newbie
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IS THIS NORMAL? This has been going on for 2 days now, I downloaded from OP a recent blockchain.

2014-Jun-27 00:11:57.571893 [P2P8][220.162.134.106:18080 OUT]Sync data returned unknown top block: 94300 -> 103046 [8746 blocks (6 days) behind]
SYNCHRONIZATION started
2014-Jun-27 00:12:14.556261 [P2P2][108.174.150.28:18080 OUT]Sync data returned unknown top block: 94300 -> 103046 [8746 blocks (6 days) behind]
SYNCHRONIZATION started
2014-Jun-27 00:12:21.153527 [P2P0][218.242.201.140:18080 OUT]Sync data returned unknown top block: 94300 -> 103046 [8746 blocks (6 days) behind]
SYNCHRONIZATION started
2014-Jun-27 00:12:26.578061 [P2P7][71.251.220.233:18080 OUT]Sync data returned unknown top block: 94300 -> 103046 [8746 blocks (6 days) behind]
SYNCHRONIZATION started
2014-Jun-27 00:12:27.241211 [P2P7][77.109.122.202:18080 OUT]Sync data returned unknown top block: 94300 -> 103046 [8746 blocks (6 days) behind]
SYNCHRONIZATION started
2014-Jun-27 00:12:27.406908 [P2P7][155.210.85.36:18080 OUT]Sync data returned unknown top block: 94300 -> 103046 [8746 blocks (6 days) behind]
SYNCHRONIZATION started
2014-Jun-27 00:12:27.664500 [P2P1][84.114.235.113:18080 OUT]Sync data returned unknown top block: 94300 -> 103046 [8746 blocks (6 days) behind]
SYNCHRONIZATION started
2014-Jun-27 00:12:39.168597 [P2P0][116.11.192.50:18080 OUT]Sync data returned unknown top block: 94300 -> 103046 [8746 blocks (6 days) behind]
SYNCHRONIZATION started
2014-Jun-27 00:12:43.326081 [P2P7][114.244.158.14:18080 OUT]Sync data returned unknown top block: 94300 -> 103046 [8746 blocks (6 days) behind]
SYNCHRONIZATION started
2014-Jun-27 00:12:54.833453 [P2P0][50.162.71.95:18080 OUT]Sync data returned unknown top block: 94300 -> 103046 [8746 blocks (6 days) behind]
SYNCHRONIZATION started
2014-Jun-27 00:13:05.548240 [P2P8][85.155.240.4:18080 OUT]Sync data returned unknown top block: 94300 -> 103046 [8746 blocks (6 days) behind]
SYNCHRONIZATION started
2014-Jun-27 00:13:14.644983 [P2P6][24.183.138.222:18080 OUT]Sync data returned unknown top block: 94300 -> 103046 [8746 blocks (6 days) behind]
SYNCHRONIZATION started
2014-Jun-27 00:13:14.747003 [P2P6][144.76.78.244:18080 OUT]Sync data returned unknown top block: 94300 -> 103046 [8746 blocks (6 days) behind]
SYNCHRONIZATION started
2014-Jun-27 00:13:15.324189 [P2P2][109.197.253.113:18080 OUT]Sync data returned unknown top block: 94300 -> 103046 [8746 blocks (6 days) behind]
SYNCHRONIZATION started
2014-Jun-27 00:13:22.229521 [P2P9][182.36.251.12:18080 OUT]Sync data returned unknown top block: 94300 -> 103046 [8746 blocks (6 days) behind]
SYNCHRONIZATION started
2014-Jun-27 00:13:28.670194 [P2P1][107.158.233.98:18080 OUT]Sync data returned unknown top block: 94300 -> 103046 [8746 blocks (6 days) behind]
SYNCHRONIZATION started
2014-Jun-27 00:13:44.592521 [P2P7][75.139.53.180:18080 OUT]Sync data returned unknown top block: 94300 -> 103046 [8746 blocks (6 days) behind]
SYNCHRONIZATION started
2014-Jun-27 00:14:08.985887 [P2P4][sock 700] Some problems at write: An existing connection was forcibly closed by the remote host:10054
2014-Jun-27 00:14:16.153419 [P2P9][69.123.199.20:18080 OUT]Sync data returned unknown top block: 94300 -> 103046 [8746 blocks (6 days) behind]
SYNCHRONIZATION started
2014-Jun-27 00:14:26.548722 [P2P2][122.151.222.214:18080 OUT]Sync data returned unknown top block: 94300 -> 101923 [7623 blocks (5 days) behind]
SYNCHRONIZATION started
2014-Jun-27 00:14:29.330504 [P2P4][106.185.24.160:18080 OUT]Sync data returned unknown top block: 94300 -> 103047 [8747 blocks (6 days) behind]
SYNCHRONIZATION started
2014-Jun-27 00:14:47.437265 [P2P8][5.9.143.169:18080 OUT]Sync data returned unknown top block: 94300 -> 103047 [8747 blocks (6 days) behind]
SYNCHRONIZATION started
2014-Jun-27 00:14:54.764096 [P2P2][46.166.76.138:18080 OUT]Sync data returned unknown top block: 94300 -> 103047 [8747 blocks (6 days) behind]
SYNCHRONIZATION started
2014-Jun-27 00:14:55.640426 [P2P6][217.70.19.106:18080 OUT]Sync data returned unknown top block: 94300 -> 103047 [8747 blocks (6 days) behind]
SYNCHRONIZATION started
2014-Jun-27 00:15:06.449785 [P2P7][128.2.209.18:18080 OUT]Sync data returned unknown top block: 94300 -> 103048 [8748 blocks (6 days) behind]
SYNCHRONIZATION started
2014-Jun-27 00:15:26.311667 [P2P8][83.228.83.89:18080 OUT]Sync data returned unknown top block: 94300 -> 103048 [8748 blocks (6 days) behind]
SYNCHRONIZATION started
2014-Jun-27 00:15:44.194257 [P2P1][37.59.31.185:18080 OUT]Sync data returned unknown top block: 94300 -> 103049 [8749 blocks (6 days) behind]
SYNCHRONIZATION started
2014-Jun-27 00:15:46.455855 [P2P4][107.170.157.169:18080 OUT]Sync data returned unknown top block: 94300 -> 103049 [8749 blocks (6 days) behind]
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