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First, can't sync blockchain -> deleted it -> sync from start, but once again looped on same block 98929. Need Win32 blockchain to download.

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2014-Jun-28 15:02:03.177614 [P2P1][161.67.132.40:18080 OUT]Sync data returned unknown top block: 98929->105249[6320 blocks(4 days) behind]
remote top: <7caa0478c337879118f43c43119d7a5c3ceb65723f301dacdd7af6045f95bded>[105249], set SYNCHRONIZATION mode



THX in advance ;]
legendary
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There is threshold 0.5 on moneropool.com. But what is threshold on other pools? Is it 0.5 too? Are there pools with less limit?
And what about switching to another pool?
I have been mining with a very low hashrate for three days on a pool. They owe me currently about 0.3 XMR. Do I have to mine still for another two or three days in order to get payed?
That is ridiculous!!! There should be a max delay in payments. Removing dust is OK, but payments should not be delayed for more than say 24 hours, even if the miners do not reach the minimum amount to get payed.
i agree, 0.5 XMR is far from being dust. 0.1 would be better for many. With more Hash rate, mining wil get onyl harder and we wil get less and less and eventually 0.5 XMR will become fortune.

I've seem many people complaining about the 0.5 limit.
I just changed the payout threshold to 0.1 on monero.crypto-pool.fr.
Hope that help.

EDIT : To avoid dust payment, we are thinking about a minimum hours of mining before payout. Join the discussion on IRC #monero.
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It remains to be seen how much of an advantage asics would have

When the attack has a fab, the advantage is measured in cm^2/hps and process nodes. This is the only hash attack I worry about. Against commodity hardware, process nodes give the advantage to the good guys, maybe, but cm^2/hps is going overwhelmingly to the bad guys.  

For a first order estimate, take the surface area of a haswell compared to the portion dedicated to the aes-ni block. That is a freaking huge advantage.

No -

Take the surface area dedicated to L3, because that's what limits the amount of cryptonight you can do concurrently.

... and that's not a freaking huge advantage, because the chips are already ~50% cache.

An ASIC could make slightly better use of the L3 -- by interspacing the AES units and the cache more optimally, it could slightly reduce read latency.  Perhaps a 30% reduction.  By specializing the reads instead of going through a more general memory controller, it could get another some %.  By optimizing the AES computation at the expense of space, a little more.

But even if you take the compute time to zero, the ASIC will be limited by the time needed to do 1 million fetches from a 2MB scratchpad.  Store that in SRAM, and you're area-limited at perhaps 3ns per retrieval.  Storing it in DRAM, you can fill your chip with AES units, but you're 128-bit random-read limited to the DRAM.

That's about 330 hashes/second/2MB of SRAM, so perhaps 1500 hashes/sec on a chip the size of a modern i7.

Of course, this is a very back of the envelope calculation, but the sky will not completely fall.  The advantage, of course, will be power - you'll be able to pack those densely - but it won't be the 2-3 order of magnitude gap you see with sha256.

(You can do an analogous computation for a DRAM-based solution.  The advantage is probably comparable, but I'll leave that as an exercise for the reader.)
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Tacotime and David Latapie are core team members. Other core team members include eizh, smooth, fluffypony, othe, and NoodleDoodle
rpietela, aminorex and GreekBitcoin are very active community members (well, Risto is not that active, but he is special). Other very active community members include Keyboard-Mash, drawingthesun, binaryFate, Quanttek... but also zone117, who developed the pool software, Wolf who optimised the cpuminer like crazy...

New pool, http://www.moneropool.net
Strong real dedicated server (not Amazon instance or so), 2% fee, no downtime, DDOS protected
Location? Payout treshold? admin's IRC nickname?

Yes David thats why I mentioned off the top of my head as a bigger block of text would become very boring to most.
 
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Sine secretum non libertas
It remains to be seen how much of an advantage asics would have

When the attack has a fab, the advantage is measured in cm^2/hps and process nodes. This is the only hash attack I worry about. Against commodity hardware, process nodes give the advantage to the good guys, maybe, but cm^2/hps is going overwhelmingly to the bad guys.  

For a first order estimate, take the surface area of a haswell compared to the portion dedicated to the aes-ni block. That is a freaking huge advantage.
legendary
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There is threshold 0.5 on moneropool.com. But what is threshold on other pools? Is it 0.5 too? Are there pools with less limit?

And what about switching to another pool?

I have been mining with a very low hashrate for three days on a pool. They owe me currently about 0.3 XMR. Do I have to mine still for another two or three days in order to get payed?

That is ridiculous!!! There should be a max delay in payments. Removing dust is OK, but payments should not be delayed for more than say 24 hours, even if the miners do not reach the minimum amount to get payed.

 i agree, 0.5 XMR is far from being dust. 0.1 would be better for many. With more Hash rate, mining wil get onyl harder and we wil get less and less and eventually 0.5 XMR will become fortune.
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If you think the website is fine and just needs a few periodic updates that is an idication of the lack of understanding of the level of polish and marketing required to make a coin successful and stand out in the crowded market. Pretty website and drop dead easy to use software may not matter to you or other early adopters, but it is absolutely essential if this is to become anything more than a subset of a subset project. I wouldn't bother writing on here if I didn't want it to succeed. But being honest this project has a very long way to go and the recent pace has not been impressive. I still haven't seen a reason for the dev team to not accept more help. Its just bizarre.

The proper benchmark for comparison of development progress is not a throw-away pump&dump coin, but bitcoin, or possibly nxt, ethereum, xcp.
Development on these scales is somewhere between blazingly fast and fairly moderate.

It's silly to say core won't accept help, given that the code is in git.  Did you submit a pull request that was rejected?  No?  Then what are you up about?

The "size issue" is a non-issue as long as one can easily run a fullnode.  There is no time-scale on which you can reasonably project that it will be difficult to run a full-node on high-end commodity hardware.  Given thin-clients, what more do you need?  Thin clients are in development.
EDIT: I thought you were referring to the recurrent criticism that the blockchain is larger than bitcoin's.  I suspect you were referring to transaction size.  That is addressed by tacotime, below.

In short, everything you mentioned as a problem was not, in fact, a problem, with the possible exception of the fact that the website is neglected, but not much.  It could use a few periodic updates, perhaps some more external links, but it covers what it really needs to cover.


I agree with Mumbles. I'm a humble troll but I speak the truth when needed. Any coin, that includes Bitcoin, Monero, Darkcoin, etc needs good marketing, not everyone is a genius crypto specialist, most people need fancy graphics and text to instill confidence. That means having a good looking website and etc.

and people here don't help the noobs such as me :\


For installing your wallet on windows, you have this monero wallet tutorial
https://monerotalk.org/t/bounty-create-a-useful-tutorial-on-how-to-setup-monero/13/8
legendary
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Dont use the basic wallet miner for pool mining, most pools dont support it any more. Try CPUminer-multi, Claymore's GPU miner (for AMD gfx cards) or there is ccminer for Nvidia now. 1st post of this thread has download links.
I see, http://monero.crypto-pool.fr/#getting_started i downloaded easyminer there, how do I get access to the wallet with the address created by that miner?

Use the link on my thead instead.
Easy miner is a bit slow compared to other like Wolf miner.

You need a normal wallet or GUI wallet to get and address.

Have a look at this thread to see how to use the normal wallet. (EDIT : It's the same link that followtheboss posted under).
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Monero Core Team
Tacotime and David Latapie are core team members. Other core team members include eizh, smooth, fluffypony, othe, and NoodleDoodle
rpietela, aminorex and GreekBitcoin are very active community members (well, Risto is not that active, but he is special). Other very active community members include Keyboard-Mash, drawingthesun, binaryFate, Quanttek... but also zone117, who developed the pool software, Wolf who optimised the cpuminer like crazy...

New pool, http://www.moneropool.net
Strong real dedicated server (not Amazon instance or so), 2% fee, no downtime, DDOS protected
Location? Payout treshold? admin's IRC nickname?
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GetMonero.org / MyMonero.com
If anyone is comfortable compiling Monero, there are three things that could do with some testing:

Transaction auto-splitting

Splits transactions with lots of inputs into multiple transactions. Prompts before doing so. There is a new RPC API call for this, but it is not ready for testing (needs payment ID support). Github branch linked in the title.

Properly daemonised bitmonerod

Linux only at this stage. Properly forks to the background, and allows the execution of all daemon commands from the command line (as a command-line argument). This is a substantial piece of work, and each RPC command needs to be tested. Github branch linked in the title.

rpcwallet

Simplewallet will remain as the interactive CLI wallet client, but for automation and merchant systems all the RPC stuff has been taken out of simplewallet and put into rpcwallet (new binary). The RPC functionality that was available to simplewallet is fully available, of course, and it should be a lot more robust - if it loses its connection to the daemon it will try to regain the connection and not just conveniently shut down. Github branch linked in the title.

If you have any feedback on these three branches, please do hop on to #monero-dev on Freenode and let us know.
legendary
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There is threshold 0.5 on moneropool.com. But what is threshold on other pools? Is it 0.5 too? Are there pools with less limit?

There may be, as pool operators can configure it however they want, and a few pools may still use the old code that did not delay payments until the threshold is reached (even though this is strongly not recommended). However, you are probably better off just waiting for the threshold because if you receive too many small payments you will have trouble spending the coins and have to pay higher transaction fees to do so.

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There is threshold 0.5 on moneropool.com. But what is threshold on other pools? Is it 0.5 too? Are there pools with less limit?
donator
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GetMonero.org / MyMonero.com
If you think the website is fine and just needs a few periodic updates that is an idication of the lack of understanding of the level of polish and marketing required to make a coin successful and stand out in the crowded market. Pretty website and drop dead easy to use software may not matter to you or other early adopters, but it is absolutely essential if this is to become anything more than a subset of a subset project. I wouldn't bother writing on here if I didn't want it to succeed. But being honest this project has a very long way to go and the recent pace has not been impressive. I still haven't seen a reason for the dev team to not accept more help. Its just bizarre.

I agree with Mumbles. I'm a humble troll but I speak the truth when needed. Any coin, that includes Bitcoin, Monero, Darkcoin, etc needs good marketing, not everyone is a genius crypto specialist, most people need fancy graphics and text to instill confidence. That means having a good looking website and etc.

We're already working on it:)
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New pool, http://www.moneropool.net
Strong real dedicated server (not Amazon instance or so), 2% fee, no downtime, DDOS protected
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I know that this nice cat made you sick, but he is amazing. And that guy who decided to call it Luke is a freaking genius.




ITA! This cat looks amazing and IMO name "Luke" is best for it
Thats some weird coincidence but my cat's name is Luke  Grin
So +100 for Luke!
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Monero Core Team
Who knows... May be devs of Monero has to analize Cryptonote whitepaper very accurately and for a long time?..
We mandated PhD-holding mathematicians and cryptographers to do it (on top of our own reading, of course) Smiley

Among other things: I updated the list of pools on the OP, please PM me or the monero account for any addition.
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hah hah page 420
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and people here don't help the noobs such as me :\

With all due respect:

1.  People have responded to you and helped you on this very page.
2.  How to copy and paste in a dos box has been covered a dozen times in this thread.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=copy+and+paste+monero

Open a dos window first, navigate to the directory with ccminer in it and execute your command.  The box wont disappear.  The reason it disappears when you just click on ccminer is you are running it without arguments and it just closes.

[XMR] Monero Mining thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/xmr-monero-mining-653467
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ASIC mining would destroy XMR.  ASIC mining means centralized control of the software resides in the hands of whoever can dominate the queue of the best fab.  Eventually that will be a nation-state.  Since BTC is built for surveilance already, XMR would be first up against the wall.

There would be no point in mining it because it would be far worse than worthless. It would be a honeypot.

Switching to a ready hash whenever necessary would not be hard...IF everyone knows it is coming.  You can't defer this commitment until the last minute.

And don't tell me the NSA can stealth fab so everything is hopeless.  They can - I've seen it myself, as far back as 1990 - but the hash footprint would be obvious.

It remains to be seen how much of an advantage asics would have over the hordes of gpu miners and botnets securing the network
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