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Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - page 1723. (Read 4670972 times)

dga
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Cache is amortized over the number of alus you pack in.  
the scratchpad is constructed (as a function of the block and nonce).
ah, thanks.  i stand corrected.

but 2MB is pretty small.  5bn transistors on a 22nm phi.  you can put roughly 2000 of those scratchpads on a single 14 nm die.


Oh goodness, no.

Putting aside for the moment the horrible expense of a 5b transistor chip (you're much better off making 5 1b chips, but that's easy with crypto), the math is still incorrect:

- An SRAM cell holds 1 bit.
- An SRAM cell requires 6 transistors (in the most common design)
- The scratchpad is 2 mega*bytes*.
- There are 8 bits in a byte.

So one scratchpad requires 2*2^20 * 8 * 6 = 100M transistors.

Not counting any area devoted to control, AES, 64 bit ALUs to handle that nasty little multiply in the second part of the iteration, etc., that's at most 50 such scratchpads on a hugely expensive chip.

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Is donation to zone117x really relevant? Is there any reason not to show closed source pools?
legendary
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Sine secretum non libertas
Cache is amortized over the number of alus you pack in.  
the scratchpad is constructed (as a function of the block and nonce).
ah, thanks.  i stand corrected.

but 2MB is pretty small.  5bn transistors on a 22nm phi.  you can put roughly 2000 of those scratchpads on a single 14 nm die.
legendary
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Is there a problem with the blockchain? I can't sync anymore:

Code:
2014-Jun-28 17:24:52.224447 [P2P2]Block with id: failed to add transaction to blockchain storage

seems to be stuck there...
legendary
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I'm a Firestarter!
I am exploring (and mining!) Monero more then one month, so i am familiar with save, exit, refresh commands in daemon. Just yesterday tried to sync blockchain, and stuck at  block 98929 and nothing helps. First i deleted blockchain from %AppData% and synced - same. Now then i am waiting for Your help with download, trying a trick (maybe that will help)  - deleted bitmonerod.txt from C:\Monero & blockchain from %AppData% once again.

One thing i am worried now is here in pix:


Why so much "Connect failed"? :|

Same problem here. Tried just now, and stucked on 145 blocks behind.
Daemon is running, but lots of errors like:

- Block verification failed, dropping connection
and
- failed to add transaction to blockchain storage

It is running SYNC, but it is not syncing.
Anyone else?
Help?
sr. member
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I'd better mention http:\\cryptonotepool.org.uk\ has been updated to the latest version now, still keeping fee at 1% plus 0.05% for pool dev Zone117x.

Stick with a pool with a proven track record for reliability, run on private high availability hardware in a dedicated datacentre, not shared on someone's cloud.

We understand that there are small profit margins in mining nowadays and miners need to make every % count.

Support regularly available in IRC #monero or by email, whether for new miners getting setup or old ones with special requirements.
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At http://pool.cryptoescrow.eu 2014.06.28 Significant Pool Updates were made:

  • Up & Running again.
  • DDOS protected
  • Fees changed: 0.8% pool fee and 0.2% goes for pool development
  • Added minimum payout of 0.5XMR

We are sad to see Wolf0 leave our pool's team, but we are up and running again.
Wolf, thanks for all your input and good luck!

We had help from zone117x, he will also help us in the future regarding the pool set up
legendary
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Updated. And since you are donating, I put you on top of the list (other can do the same, of course). I suppose the 0.1% is for 45Jmf8PnJKziGyrLouJMeBFw2yVyX1QB52sKEQ4S1VSU2NVsaVGPNu4bWKkaHaeZ6tWCepP6iceZk8X hTLzDaEVa72QrtVh, right?

monero.crypto-pool.fr will donnate 10% of our earnings for core devs.
(fees will be taken from us and not from users).


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New pool, http://www.moneropool.net
Strong real dedicated server (not Amazon instance or so), 2% fee, no downtime, DDOS protected
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Server is located in Czech Republic, EU (100 mbps for now, upgradeable to much more, Tier1 Premium BW). Payout treshold is 0.1. You can reach me on same IRC nickname as on forum.
Latest pool software, latest daemon.

Actually, fee is 1.9% + 0.1% for developers.
Updated. And since you are donating, I put you on top of the list (other can do the same, of course). I suppose the 0.1% is for 45Jmf8PnJKziGyrLouJMeBFw2yVyX1QB52sKEQ4S1VSU2NVsaVGPNu4bWKkaHaeZ6tWCepP6iceZk8X hTLzDaEVa72QrtVh, right?
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Keep your eyes open, fellas.
I am an investor who has bought heavily into xmr.
I asked a question in this thread, and didn't get an answer.
You guys have to be on the alert for the opportunity to reach out to people like me.
I asked a question that was so simple it was apparently worth ignoring in the high level discussion going on here.
If I can't get up to speed on the wallet I then must choose between leaving my holdings on an exchange into the indeterminate future or dumping, which is bad for me and bad for everybody else.
Please make monero useful to people who know less than you do.  It shouldn't be beneath you to give a beginner a helping hand.

I think you should keep up with this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=589561.220
Its a bounty for an opensource GUI ( 1 July I think they are going to pick a winner)

If you need any help on the current wallet pm me or ask in this thread and I will answer


Thanks for the link, you can be sure I'll keep researching this stuff, I have a lot at stake.  And I will get back to you, either here on the thread or by PM.
hero member
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Keep your eyes open, fellas.
I am an investor who has bought heavily into xmr.
I asked a question in this thread, and didn't get an answer.
You guys have to be on the alert for the opportunity to reach out to people like me.
I asked a question that was so simple it was apparently worth ignoring in the high level discussion going on here.
If I can't get up to speed on the wallet I then must choose between leaving my holdings on an exchange into the indeterminate future or dumping, which is bad for me and bad for everybody else.
Please make monero useful to people who know less than you do.  It shouldn't be beneath you to give a beginner a helping hand.

I think you should keep up with this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=589561.220
Its a bounty for an opensource GUI ( 1 July I think they are going to pick a winner)

If you need any help on the current wallet pm me or ask in this thread and I will answer

sr. member
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and people here don't help the noobs such as me :\

With all due respect:

1.  People have responded to you and helped you on this very page.
2.  How to copy and paste in a dos box has been covered a dozen times in this thread.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=copy+and+paste+monero

Open a dos window first, navigate to the directory with ccminer in it and execute your command.  The box wont disappear.  The reason it disappears when you just click on ccminer is you are running it without arguments and it just closes.

[XMR] Monero Mining thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/xmr-monero-mining-653467

Yes, and I did also tell you about Alt + space + e which lets you paste as well
legendary
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I am exploring (and mining!) Monero more then one month, so i am familiar with save, exit, refresh commands in daemon. Just yesterday tried to sync blockchain, and stuck at  block 98929 and nothing helps. First i deleted blockchain from %AppData% and synced - same. Now then i am waiting for Your help with download, trying a trick (maybe that will help)  - deleted bitmonerod.txt from C:\Monero & blockchain from %AppData% once again.
One thing i am worried now is here in pix:
https://31.media.tumblr.com/4e7fd38310b65dd98f783bc8c21bb940/tumblr_inline_n7vqa8R5861sowu8z.jpg
Why so much "Connect failed"? :|

Ignore the connections failed. It's normal and it doesn't matter if your client work.

Please make monero useful to people who know less than you do.

Devs are working on it but the aesthetic of the wallet is less important than the core functions.
dga
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Take the surface area dedicated to L3, because that's what limits the amount of cryptonight you can do concurrently.

... and that's not a freaking huge advantage, because the chips are already ~50% cache.

O(n/2) = O(n)
Cache is amortized over the number of alus you pack in.  The ratio of alu to cache area has to be divided by the number of alus on the die, again approximated by the haswell to aes block ratio. (Also, associative cache is wasteful overkill when all you need to do is deliver shuffle bits to an alu. That 50% number is inflated.  But still O(n/1.4) = O(n).)

Huh?

No - you don't get to divide by the # of AES/ALU units.  You need 2MB of storage per fast AES/ALU, period, because the algorithm modifies the scratchpad as it goes.  There's no great opportunity for space/time tradeoffs in this one.  Every independent execution requires a separate 2MB scratchpad because of the way the scratchpad is constructed (as a function of the block and nonce).
hero member
Activity: 870
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Keep your eyes open, fellas.
I am an investor who has bought heavily into xmr.
I asked a question in this thread, and didn't get an answer.
You guys have to be on the alert for the opportunity to reach out to people like me.
I asked a question that was so simple it was apparently worth ignoring in the high level discussion going on here.
If I can't get up to speed on the wallet I then must choose between leaving my holdings on an exchange into the indeterminate future or dumping, which is bad for me and bad for everybody else.
Please make monero useful to people who know less than you do.  It shouldn't be beneath you to give a beginner a helping hand.
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New pool, http://www.moneropool.net
Strong real dedicated server (not Amazon instance or so), 2% fee, no downtime, DDOS protected
Location? Payout treshold? admin's IRC nickname?

Server is located in Czech Republic, EU (100 mbps for now, upgradeable to much more, Tier1 Premium BW). Payout treshold is 0.1. You can reach me on same IRC nickname as on forum.
Latest pool software, latest daemon.

Actually, fee is 1.9% + 0.1% for developers.
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First, can't sync blockchain -> deleted it -> sync from start, but once again looped on same block 98929. Need Win32 blockchain to download.

Quote
2014-Jun-28 14:38:02.843231 [P2P7][73.180.60.129:54068 INC]Sync data returned unknown top block: 98929->104613[5684 blocks(3 days) behind]


THX in advance ;]
I don't have the 32 bit blockchain, but you could try to enter 'exit' or 'q' in the daemon in order to save the blockchain and quit. Is there any difference when you restart the daemon and start the sync from block 98929? Can you check your windows task manager for the bitmonerod.exe and how much RAM it's using and do you have enough RAM? In the 64 bit version it's currently using about 2.1 GB - the win 32 bit version should use less (32 bit memory addressing instead of 64 bit, so the same data structure is using less RAM in the 32x win) however this is going closer to the maximum a win 32 configuration could address (2.8 GB - 3.6 GB is the max with 32x bit windows on 32 bit processor depending on the configuration, video card, bios, windows, etc...). This won't be a problem when the blockchain is stored in a proper database or when the lightweight client is released.

I am exploring (and mining!) Monero more then one month, so i am familiar with save, exit, refresh commands in daemon. Just yesterday tried to sync blockchain, and stuck at  block 98929 and nothing helps. First i deleted blockchain from %AppData% and synced - same. Now then i am waiting for Your help with download, trying a trick (maybe that will help)  - deleted bitmonerod.txt from C:\Monero & blockchain from %AppData% once again.

One thing i am worried now is here in pix:


Why so much "Connect failed"? :|
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Monero (XMR) - secure, private, untraceable
First, can't sync blockchain -> deleted it -> sync from start, but once again looped on same block 98929. Need Win32 blockchain to download.

Quote
2014-Jun-28 14:38:02.843231 [P2P7][73.180.60.129:54068 INC]Sync data returned unknown top block: 98929->104613[5684 blocks(3 days) behind]


THX in advance ;]
I don't have the 32 bit blockchain, but you could try to enter 'exit' or 'q' in the daemon in order to save the blockchain and quit. Is there any difference when you restart the daemon and start the sync from block 98929? Can you check your windows task manager for the bitmonerod.exe and how much RAM it's using and do you have enough RAM? In the 64 bit version it's currently using about 2.1 GB - the win 32 bit version should use less (32 bit memory addressing instead of 64 bit, so the same data structure is using less RAM in the 32x win) however this is going closer to the maximum a win 32 configuration could address (2.8 GB - 3.6 GB is the max with 32x bit windows on 32 bit processor depending on the configuration, video card, bios, windows, etc...). This won't be a problem when the blockchain is stored in a proper database or when the lightweight client is released.
legendary
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Sine secretum non libertas

Take the surface area dedicated to L3, because that's what limits the amount of cryptonight you can do concurrently.

... and that's not a freaking huge advantage, because the chips are already ~50% cache.

O(n/2) = O(n)
Cache is amortized over the number of alus you pack in.  The ratio of alu to cache area has to be divided by the number of alus on the die, again approximated by the haswell to aes block ratio. (Also, associative cache is wasteful overkill when all you need to do is deliver shuffle bits to an alu. That 50% number is inflated.  But still O(n/1.4) = O(n).)
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