Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - page 1979. (Read 4670562 times)

You wouldnt even be able to mine any cryptonote coin at a decent speed if it werent for the devs of Moreno LOL ! But the main thing they delivered was the creation of a community.

Hardly. I'm not in here calling "pump and dump". I'm a supporter of digital currencies becoming more private. I want to go LT with cutting-edge coins but I honestly can't see anything unique from the team here.

Happy to be proved wrong but as I see it, this coin is vulnerable to other competitors adding cryptonote. I'm just looking for answers.

Why does Monero exist ? I think that keyboard-mashed justified beautifully the existence of Monero to the founders of the Cryptonote technology. It can be seen here: https://forum.cryptonote.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=162#p520

To sum it up : constant communication, transparency and the means towards mass adoption

Thank you for the kind words friend.

And no one knows the pain of FUD more than Darkcoin community trust me. It is just a few folks getting worked up for nothing. A few days ago some MRO trolls were crapping on DRK thread (before MRO boomed) and I had warned them there not to do it either.

Your logic does not follow suit though. Auroracoin was totally mined like that and their intent was to distribute the money to the people. To say that BCN wants only money is just speculation. We don't know that they haven't tried to set up some kind of airdrop, we haven't been told anything other than that it's not for a pump and dump (this is posted by Dstrange in the BCN thread).

Actually, with that in mind I'd think it to be the exact opposite of what they want.

They are welcome to try and "claim their place", but again ... we don't have any Satoshi Nakamoto axe hanging over our heads. No one person or small group has all of the coins here. That's one of the pillars of this coins existence.

As far as the price goes ... that's far beyond you and me. That is something the free market will decide

Luckily, it's already gotten a fair comparison with both cryptonote.to exchange and Poloniex adding both coins to their exchanges.

If they win a short term marketcap game, that's fine. We're here to build a protocol, without Satoshi.

I tried BCN, deleted when I had to download a 1.5GB bootstrap for the blockchain at launch. Scam, they could have started it off fresh.

@smooth

You have no idea how influential you have been to the success of this coin. You are a great ambassador for MRO and one of the reasons why I chose to mine MRO during the early days (and I still do, but alas no soup for about 5 days now).

It is highly believable. No one attacks an unsuccessful coin.

Haters are the world's way of letting you know that you are doing something right. In fact they mean you are doing a lot right.

I'm glad we got your (and 1000 of your compatriots') not always so friendly attention.

Still you're welcome here though.

I am amazed at the amount of trolls on here...this is literally unbelievable...miserable pricks...

Guys, obviously if someone is taking the time to come on this forum and say negative things there is a REASON. If they did not want any monero they would not be here at all they would be on the forum of the coin they want =)

All this trolling tells me one thing...I made a damn good choice getting on under .0009 =)

Trolls: Fuck you pricks, I am harvesting your tears like fucking rainwater and drinking them in my top fucking shelf margaritas hahahaha CRY CRY CRY PLEASE i love it =))) Every time you guys cry I feel sooo good hahaha

That's actually fine with me. If they want to return with an improved product without the scam launch, more power to them. If they want to focus their work on improving Monero, that's fine too. There was no premine or other launch scam here; none of us has any huge financial interest in it. As I said, the world benefits if they deliver something useful, with a healthy business model.

sooo easy to see you are trolling

When you have 80% premine, it's fairly evident what they want: money. And if MRO takes their money by making BCN irrelevant, guess what they'll do next. Use their tech know-how to reclaim their "rightful" place, reducing the greed factor that was proven a weakness in the first stage, providing cryptoland with an improved product. It might take weeks or months, but they could make big money out of it - especially if they first dump their BCNs and then move to BCN 2.0 (named something different of course).

Actually that's fine. The world benefits if V2 really does heavily improve on V1. A warning though. Sometimes its Windows 8 and does not improve on Windows 7 just because the version number has been incremented. It has to stand on its own merit.

As far as putting them in the box, that is not the case at all. This coin is an entirely volunteer effort. There are no owners or bosses here. Whoever delivers good work that others view as worth following is effectively in charge. That could be the bytecoin developers if they choose. In reality it looks like most of them have just moved on for whatever reason (perhaps life changes or other interests, one can only guess) and only a small subset or offshoot was behind the premine scam coin. It's largely abandonware at this point. Again given their apparent preference for secrecy we can only guess at the true reasons. I'm told, by the way, that bytecoin was not the original name of the coin, and that label was added recently, further suggesting some sort of split or offshoot. I can't yet confirm this.

No one will stand in the way of good work. If the intent however, is to pull off a hidden premine scam (and/or hidden de-optimzied miner scam), well we all see how that turned out. Probably worked in several well-known cases in 2013. Does not and won't work any more.

It was Taco himself and a few others that were in IRC a couple days after launch, working on a fix for the stuck blockchain. He's not only come through with bugfixes, he's been the major part of why we're still here today. It seems pretty rude to just put that down, when he's the one that stepped up.

You came here with misinformation, CryptoNote made the coin. Bytecoin is the recent name they've given to the project. It was on the hidden site, so try finding it. But it seems like you have contact with them ... because you have a clear understanding of what they want. Maybe just ask them and not us? You're sharing your speculations with us, but you should be talking to them. They need the help, so please send them an email.

Dat volume doe

That's pretty rude guy. There's a lot of people here trying to get things done. Who are you, Mr. Satoshi?

Please don't pick on us, this isn't 4chan. I'm sorry nobody can find you a reason to like us (we've tried a lot), but maybe you'll reconsider in the future

I don't think that mining software (clients, pools), or supporting exchanges to add monero "count" as coin-tech development. Bugfixes, more so.


It would be filtered out due to premine. So no top5.


The problem is that you telling them what to do, and where to be, when they've made the coin is ...problematic. You can't put them in a box and tell them these are the rules you'll play with. They made the coin. Don't you get it? They have immense power compared to clones because they can relaunch tomorrow a new coin with cryptonote tech V2 or something and pull the carpet underneath the clones big time. It will be like obsoleting "v1" and rendering it useless. It's their nuke option. They had two years to think of problems in their implementation, saying "ah, if we made the coin now, we'd do that in a different way". The potential for improvement should be significant for a reboot or a new coin by the same devs.

As I see it, having MRO take everything and upsetting the BCN devs by capitalizing on their work can backfire big time as they might "nuke" the clones and go with a V2 which heavily improves on V1. And then it's game over.

Personally I'm on the Dark train, but have some MROs just in case - keeping in mind the above. I like the prospects of the anonymous market in general, and I am holding more than one anon coins so as to be properly positioned and hedged, but the fact that MROs fortune is dependent on what BCN developers will do (because they are the innovators and first movers) is unsettling for escalating any investment.

Can someone ask the folks behind coinmarketcap to also add https://cryptonote.exchange.to/market/mro/btc

240 BTC volume there is not being accounted for.