Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - page 1982. (Read 4671105 times)
XMR is the future.
The Satoshi code base is pretty awful, I think most would agree.
Given that bitcoin has been at 5-10bn marketcap and that it's not yet "broken" by some catastrophic flaw after 5 years running, most would say it's pretty good at what it set out to do.
Bytecoin's code base though has yet to pass the test of time.
It's open source though and thus anyone can vet it, unlike DRK's anonymous components, correct? Or is all of DRK's source code 100% available and online for anyone to check?
The Satoshi code base is pretty awful, I think most would agree.
Given that bitcoin has been at 5-10bn marketcap and that it's not yet "broken" by some catastrophic flaw after 5 years running, most would say it's pretty good at what it set out to do.
Bytecoin's code base though has yet to pass the test of time.
XMR is the future.
is there something wrong with the pools? I mined yesterday with 10 hash each core, 4 cores=40 hash steadily, but today(more like tonight), its getting really though I think... is diff changing, getting harder to mine? Or just some config? I had 4 cores running at 20 h/s some point instead of 40
btw, for fr pool, i5 3350p should be considered medium cpu I guess?
btw, for fr pool, i5 3350p should be considered medium cpu I guess?
what pool?
http://extremepool.org is up and working right. The difficulty of the network is extremely high right now
is there something wrong with the pools? I mined yesterday with 10 hash each core, 4 cores=40 hash steadily, but today(more like tonight), its getting really though I think... is diff changing, getting harder to mine? Or just some config? I had 4 cores running at 20 h/s some point instead of 40
btw, for fr pool, i5 3350p should be considered medium cpu I guess?
btw, for fr pool, i5 3350p should be considered medium cpu I guess?
gmaxwell is one of Bitcoin's most important core devs, so this is not FUD or ignorance. He is a genuine expert. In the altcoin space, a pre-announced launch on this forum is considered 'fair', but it's likely you'd miss it if you only follow Bitcoin communication channels.
Some context is needed. gmaxwell is among those who believe altcoins have little reason to exist (there are many fair reasons to think that, and it's flat-out true for most altcoins). So he likely sees Bytecoin as a testbed for innovation from which Bitcoin can learn, but doesn't care for the ultimate fate of it as a separate currency.
From this perspective, Monero is ruining the party by doing a fair launch and overtaking Bytecoin is usage because Bytecoin devs might now lose interest because their coin isn't getting used. From our community's perspective, it's worth trying to make CryptoNote succeed on its own and only a publicly launched one has the legitimacy required to succeed.
The point about the emission curve is a fair one. Several of us including me wanted to change but the community as a whole didn't like it. It's not a huge deal -- after all Bitcoin has implanted an idea in our heads for how a coin "should" distribute over time, but there's no fundamental theoretical backing.
so he thinks that the only techonology that is worth investing (exisiting is bitcoin) this is no different from the narrow minds that we see here regarding anonimity and the dark coin fanatics who see no reason for any other alt existing in the anonymity space. as educated as he is, he is not above greed, closed mindedness, or any other characteristic that befalls FUD spreaders. His comment was negative and baseless. same as any FUD
I very much doubt gmaxwell is against new technology. After all, you don't have to launch a new altcoin for a new technology - it can be integrated into Bitcoin. He expands more on his views on Zero and CryptoNote here (his name is nullc): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7765455
You can see that he's actually very positive on ring signatures and even recognizes bitcoin as "basically a privacy disaster" in one of the posts.
No one is saying that gmaxwell is against new technology. He also seems to recognize Bitcoin's drawbacks. He just seems to want to polish a turd rather than turn out something new and overall better than Bitcoin. The Satoshi code base is pretty awful, I think most would agree. As you said, gmaxwell agrees that BTC is not very good when it comes to privacy. But he almost seems emotionally attached to Bitcoin - preferring to constantly maintain a coin that honestly was a proof of concept more than anything, and is slowly becoming outdated, rather than start from scratch with what we've learned and make something far better.
While Ring Signatures is a innovative aspect of Cryptonight coins, the algo, Cryptonight, itself is not as good compared to say, x11, or even scrypt.,.
No one is saying that gmaxwell is against new technology. He also seems to recognize Bitcoin's drawbacks. He just seems to want to polish a turd rather than turn out something new and overall better than Bitcoin. The Satoshi code base is pretty awful, I think most would agree. As you said, gmaxwell agrees that BTC is not very good when it comes to privacy. But he almost seems emotionally attached to Bitcoin - preferring to constantly maintain a coin that honestly was a proof of concept more than anything, and is slowly becoming outdated, rather than start from scratch with what we've learned and make something far better.
I agree with everything you wrote. But let's try to keep it on topic here.
BTW, 100 million difficulty, wow!
This coin looks interesting.
Does this coin have the longevity to continue to grow in price and adoption?
Does this coin have the longevity to continue to grow in price and adoption?
From my point of view yes, it offers something very different to a lot of other coins.
What do you believe proves evidence of those things?
Monero will surpass Dark, I think it's still cheap.
It has the potential to do that. Based on the technicals at least.
Monero will surpass Dark, I think it's still cheap.
I followed this guide:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annxmr-one-click-monero-miner-613072
No pools except http://monero.crypto-pool.fr/ allowed me to connect
I mined all night with 1kh/s, not even 0.000001 in my wallet
Wallet loads proper when I run bitmonerod.exe and try to refresh wallet i get
Error: refresh failed: daemon is busy. Please try later. Blocks received: 0
Could someone please help me get this working? I don't know why the other pools give me errors when connecting and the crypto-pool doesn't.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annxmr-one-click-monero-miner-613072
No pools except http://monero.crypto-pool.fr/ allowed me to connect
I mined all night with 1kh/s, not even 0.000001 in my wallet
Wallet loads proper when I run bitmonerod.exe and try to refresh wallet i get
Error: refresh failed: daemon is busy. Please try later. Blocks received: 0
Could someone please help me get this working? I don't know why the other pools give me errors when connecting and the crypto-pool doesn't.
I think you mistaken 1 H/s to 1 KH/s. The hash rate showed on miner is in H/s.
( Hash Rate: 97.22 H/sec ) is what shows on pool. I confused 100h/s as 1kh/s instead of 1,000h/s
What I need help on is the other things mentioned, if you can help with those then that would actually be appreciated
You have to wait until blockchain is synced in deammon, than you can refresh wallet
How can you guarantee that?
I'm on Extremepool with more than 3 times the hasrate of Minergate and it's quite difficult to find blocks..
Oh, ok. I see. Let's talk again tomorrow when no block comes around for 12 hours
gmaxwell is one of Bitcoin's most important core devs, so this is not FUD or ignorance. He is a genuine expert. In the altcoin space, a pre-announced launch on this forum is considered 'fair', but it's likely you'd miss it if you only follow Bitcoin communication channels.
Some context is needed. gmaxwell is among those who believe altcoins have little reason to exist (there are many fair reasons to think that, and it's flat-out true for most altcoins). So he likely sees Bytecoin as a testbed for innovation from which Bitcoin can learn, but doesn't care for the ultimate fate of it as a separate currency.
From this perspective, Monero is ruining the party by doing a fair launch and overtaking Bytecoin is usage because Bytecoin devs might now lose interest because their coin isn't getting used. From our community's perspective, it's worth trying to make CryptoNote succeed on its own and only a publicly launched one has the legitimacy required to succeed.
The point about the emission curve is a fair one. Several of us including me wanted to change but the community as a whole didn't like it. It's not a huge deal -- after all Bitcoin has implanted an idea in our heads for how a coin "should" distribute over time, but there's no fundamental theoretical backing.
so he thinks that the only techonology that is worth investing (exisiting is bitcoin) this is no different from the narrow minds that we see here regarding anonimity and the dark coin fanatics who see no reason for any other alt existing in the anonymity space. as educated as he is, he is not above greed, closed mindedness, or any other characteristic that befalls FUD spreaders. His comment was negative and baseless. same as any FUD
I very much doubt gmaxwell is against new technology. After all, you don't have to launch a new altcoin for a new technology - it can be integrated into Bitcoin. He expands more on his views on Zero and CryptoNote here (his name is nullc): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7765455
You can see that he's actually very positive on ring signatures and even recognizes bitcoin as "basically a privacy disaster" in one of the posts.
Why wouldn't the Bytecoin community want to change the retarded curve emmision? does this even need an answer.
still wondering how much can i expect with a i6 a day?
Same here. Running an I7 2600 and an FX 4300. Making between 20-25 h/s on a pool. (Low hashrate cause I can't use all cores) What are my expected earnings (Monero) in 24 hours?
The formula is your hash rate times the block reward (currently a bit under 17) times 86400 divided by the difficulty (currently 96 million)
Cheers! According to your formula that would be 0,03 MRO per day... Not really worth the extra heat and effort I guess. (Free electricity)
It's actually 0.3 and it is almost certainly profitable over the cost of electricity (unless you pay an awful lot).
If you solo mine you will probably get a higher effective hash rate than the pool. Most days or even weeks you will get nothing though, so this requires a somewhat different mindset.
That can't be right. Or at least that isn't the reality. I have 150h and i average half a coin at best.
gmaxwell is one of Bitcoin's most important core devs, so this is not FUD or ignorance. He is a genuine expert. In the altcoin space, a pre-announced launch on this forum is considered 'fair', but it's likely you'd miss it if you only follow Bitcoin communication channels.
Some context is needed. gmaxwell is among those who believe altcoins have little reason to exist (there are many fair reasons to think that, and it's flat-out true for most altcoins). So he likely sees Bytecoin as a testbed for innovation from which Bitcoin can learn, but doesn't care for the ultimate fate of it as a separate currency.
From this perspective, Monero is ruining the party by doing a fair launch and overtaking Bytecoin is usage because Bytecoin devs might now lose interest because their coin isn't getting used. From our community's perspective, it's worth trying to make CryptoNote succeed on its own and only a publicly launched one has the legitimacy required to succeed.
The point about the emission curve is a fair one. Several of us including me wanted to change but the community as a whole didn't like it. It's not a huge deal -- after all Bitcoin has implanted an idea in our heads for how a coin "should" distribute over time, but there's no fundamental theoretical backing.
so he thinks that the only techonology that is worth investing (exisiting is bitcoin) this is no different from the narrow minds that we see here regarding anonimity and the dark coin fanatics who see no reason for any other alt existing in the anonymity space. as educated as he is, he is not above greed, closed mindedness, or any other characteristic that befalls FUD spreaders. His comment was negative and baseless. same as any FUD
I very much doubt gmaxwell is against new technology. After all, you don't have to launch a new altcoin for a new technology - it can be integrated into Bitcoin. He expands more on his views on Zero and CryptoNote here (his name is nullc): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7765455
You can see that he's actually very positive on ring signatures and even recognizes bitcoin as "basically a privacy disaster" in one of the posts.
just starting in this, is it better to use easyminer or simple miner?
Solid, no it's not. It's $500 as can be seen on the contest main page. I think you misread something on the site?
https://99designs.com/logo-design/contests/monero-mro-cryptocurrency-logo-design-contest-382486
Weird, when i'm logged in, there's a big yellow button in the top right that says $300 and if you hover your mouse over it says "The winner will receive a $300 prize"
However if I look at it logged out it says $499 Silver package.
Sounds to me like 99designs takes $200 of the prize money? If that is the case I think we can all agree that is the REAL greed right there
Ah, they do a good job hiding that from even the contest buyers. Take the MRO, in that case.
Solid, no it's not. It's $500 as can be seen on the contest main page. I think you misread something on the site?
https://99designs.com/logo-design/contests/monero-mro-cryptocurrency-logo-design-contest-382486
Weird, when i'm logged in, there's a big yellow button in the top right that says $300 and if you hover your mouse over it says "The winner will receive a $300 prize"
However if I look at it logged out it says $499 Silver package.
Sounds to me like 99designs takes $200 of the prize money? If that is the case I think we can all agree that is the REAL greed right there
I am pretty confident* we are the new stealthy elite, gentlemen
* - unless some serious bugs are disovered
* - unless some serious bugs are disovered
I followed this guide:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annxmr-one-click-monero-miner-613072
No pools except http://monero.crypto-pool.fr/ allowed me to connect
I mined all night with 1kh/s, not even 0.000001 in my wallet
Wallet loads proper when I run bitmonerod.exe and try to refresh wallet i get
Error: refresh failed: daemon is busy. Please try later. Blocks received: 0
Could someone please help me get this working? I don't know why the other pools give me errors when connecting and the crypto-pool doesn't.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annxmr-one-click-monero-miner-613072
No pools except http://monero.crypto-pool.fr/ allowed me to connect
I mined all night with 1kh/s, not even 0.000001 in my wallet
Wallet loads proper when I run bitmonerod.exe and try to refresh wallet i get
Error: refresh failed: daemon is busy. Please try later. Blocks received: 0
Could someone please help me get this working? I don't know why the other pools give me errors when connecting and the crypto-pool doesn't.
I think you mistaken 1 H/s to 1 KH/s. The hash rate showed on miner is in H/s.
( Hash Rate: 97.22 H/sec ) is what shows on pool. I confused 100h/s as 1kh/s instead of 1,000h/s
What I need help on is the other things mentioned, if you can help with those then that would actually be appreciated
You have to wait until blockchain is synced in deammon, than you can refresh wallet
How can you guarantee that?
I'm on Extremepool with more than 3 times the hasrate of Minergate and it's quite difficult to find blocks..
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