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Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - page 1985. (Read 4670972 times)

sr. member
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still wondering how much can i expect with a i6 a day?

what's your hash rate ? and solo mining or pool ? You can estimate your earning by typing !calc on #monero channel.
sr. member
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what do you guys think about Boolberry (previously HoneyPenny) ? It is supposed to be launched on April but somehow it was delayed till now.

I believe this delay make BOOLB losing a lot of opportunity. Monero is getting all attention now.
hero member
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still wondering how much can i expect with a i6 a day?
hero member
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Monero Core Team
gmaxwell is one of Bitcoin's most important core devs, so this is not FUD or ignorance. He is a genuine expert. In the altcoin space, a pre-announced launch on this forum is considered 'fair', but it's likely you'd miss it if you only follow Bitcoin communication channels.

Some context is needed. gmaxwell is among those who believes altcoins have little reason to exist (there are many fair reasons to think that, and it's flat-out true for most altcoins). So he likely sees Bytecoin as a testbed for innovation from which Bitcoin can learn, but doesn't care for the ultimate fate of it as a separate currency.

From this perspective, Monero is ruining the party by doing a fair launch and overtaking Bytecoin is usage because Bytecoin devs might now lose interest because their coin isn't getting used. From our community's perspective, it's worth trying to make CryptoNote succeed on its own and only a publicly launched one has the legitimacy required to succeed.

The point about the emission curve is a fair one. Several of us including me wanted to change but the community as a whole didn't like it. It's not a huge deal -- after all Bitcoin has implanted an idea in our heads for how a coin "should" distribute over time, but there's no fundamental theoretical backing.
Thanks for this quality post.
hero member
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Hello,

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I 100% agree, and that is COMPLETELY not acceptable. Our aim was to open it up to different designers on 99designs to get a solid feel, not to cheat anyone. Currently my favourite design is still one in the thread. Let me say this to ensure absolute clarity: if you submitted a design in the logo design thread and it is the one we choose you will receive the 300 MRO and not a penny less.

This is sensible - the higher of the two $500 or 300 MRO at the time of choosing. The reason for moving is that the MRO price went up so much that you could increase the number of submission well above that in a forum contest for the same price. If you can beat out that many artists instead of just the few that happened to see the forum post, you deserve it.



No, I think the main problem is that the contest thread promised a reward denominated in MRO, and now it's been changed to be worth less money, expanded to a larger audience, and pushed further back. The bait-and-switch tactic has  definitely left a bad taste in many mouths.

It's actually worth the roughly same amount of money and about 4x more money than when most people made their submissions. "Expanded to a larger audience" is exactly correct - that was the point. A forum contest should be cheap because it's relatively noncompetitive. If the payout is to be large, it makes sense to use a venue that has way more submissions. This included a change from MRO to USD for all the non-crypto artists, and I thought even those from this forum would prefer that to protect the value from volatility. I guess not - paying out in MRO is fine if it's the higher value at the time.
legendary
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because a lot of people even know this coin, when it is on coinmarketcap price easy double when a few new thousand people see this coin in the top 20 Smiley
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I didn't know about this. That is my mistake.

We have moved out some of our investment.

Bytecoin was forked into a coin that the community could participate in from day one.
Alas, none of the bugs or short comings were fixed in doing that— and it doesn't appear that any of the people involved in it have the background for the low level work. So you might have just written out the only active developers of the software, may not bode well for continued development.

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is this fud?

he claims to be an expert and he implies he has his finger on the pulse of cryptocurrency. yet, he found out about this coin 1 month after it has come out. I had only heard of bitcoin in passing, never knew whta it was and signed up on bitcointalk and found out about this coin the day it was announced. either he is a fud spreder, or this should be humbling as he may not be the expert he claims to be.



i am not in the mining business - but this is kind of funny. It was completely visible here. I found this coins maybe 3-4 after the announcement, the thread already had 20 pages, there was a well managed otc trade in the marketplace. what do people expect? - an anouncement in the new york times?



gmaxwell is one of Bitcoin's most important core devs, so this is not FUD or ignorance. He is a genuine expert. In the altcoin space, a pre-announced launch on this forum is considered 'fair', but it's likely you'd miss it if you only follow Bitcoin communication channels.

Some context is needed. gmaxwell is among those who believe altcoins have little reason to exist (there are many fair reasons to think that, and it's flat-out true for most altcoins). So he likely sees Bytecoin as a testbed for innovation from which Bitcoin can learn, but doesn't care for the ultimate fate of it as a separate currency.

From this perspective, Monero is ruining the party by doing a fair launch and overtaking Bytecoin is usage because Bytecoin devs might now lose interest because their coin isn't getting used. From our community's perspective, it's worth trying to make CryptoNote succeed on its own and only a publicly launched one has the legitimacy required to succeed.

The point about the emission curve is a fair one. Several of us including me wanted to change but the community as a whole didn't like it. It's not a huge deal -- after all Bitcoin has implanted an idea in our heads for how a coin "should" distribute over time, but there's no fundamental theoretical backing.
donator
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Hello,

I am shitting in your thread.

Monero held a contest for logo design where they offered 300 MRO, solicited over 60 designs and asked for changes, then cancelled the contest. They're now running a new one on another site, with all nine pages of designs, feedback and revisions submitted on bitcointalk up for other designers to draw on for inspiration.

Scummy, isn't it? If you offer money for designs, and you're given designs, you pay what you said you'd pay. Period. If you made a mistake in setting up the contest, you PAY for your mistake. You should have paid for your mistake in MRO for a design that you might not think is perfect, but which you then own outright and take elsewhere to tweak. This is what ethical people would have done.

But you've chosen to pay for your mistake by using your reputation as collateral. So...

Fuck you, monero, your team doesn't deserve support or respect. I don't care if this clusterfuck of a design contest came out of stupidity or malice, you've shown you don't know what you're doing. If you can't run a simple design contest with a shred of integrity, then you SURE AS FUCK can't properly develop a cryptocurrency that you expect the whole world to latch onto.

I 100% agree, and that is COMPLETELY not acceptable. Our aim was to open it up to different designers on 99designs to get a solid feel, not to cheat anyone. Currently my favourite design is still one in the thread. Let me say this to ensure absolute clarity: if you submitted a design in the logo design thread and it is the one we choose you will receive the 300 MRO and not a penny less.
legendary
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sent anyone a request to coinmarketcap?
Yes

do we have a api that show the coins in real time?
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Monero Core Team
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CS Student - BC Logo Guy


Hmm, 60 designs submissions and only one complaint about moving the contest to https://99designs.com/logo-design/contests/monero-mro-cryptocurrency-logo-design-contest-382486 to get more submissions.  There is nothing from stopping you from refining your logo and submitting to this site.  I just looked and it appears that several people have already done just that.

A logo contest contest doesn't pay for designs, it rewards the winner of the contest.  The contest isn't cancelled it is still ongoing as there has been nobody with a winning logo.  Nothing is stopping you from submitting as many logo's as you want to that site.  You can still enter and win if you design the winning logo.  Do you expect to get paid for just a submission?  Because that doesn't happen anywhere.

No, I think the main problem is that the contest thread promised a reward denominated in MRO, and now it's been changed to be worth less money, expanded to a larger audience, and pushed further back. The bait-and-switch tactic has  definitely left a bad taste in many mouths.
legendary
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sr. member
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in this second someone just easy buy monero for over 11 btc in on order, insane  Shocked

2014-05-20 18:02:38   Buy   0.006678   1731.55288358   11.56331015 BTC

once this coin get to cryptsy or mintpal, you'll see this thing frequently  Cool
member
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just got back from my tea leaves, and i was able to confirm from my crystal ball. there will be more bashing in the days ahead
legendary
Activity: 1386
Merit: 1000
in this second someone just easy buy monero for over 11 btc in on order, insane  Shocked

2014-05-20 18:02:38   Buy   0.006678   1731.55288358   11.56331015 BTC
sr. member
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just bought some MRO and tried to withdraw, but it seems Poloniex withdrawal for MRO doesn't work. Status of the withdrawal now is ERROR.

Is there anyone has same problem or just me ?

go to the trollbox on poloniex.... and ask them to withdraw manually... i had same issue... but this worked everytime... hope it helps
legendary
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sent anyone a request to coinmarketcap?
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Proof-of-Stake Blockchain Network
Hello,

I am shitting in your thread.

Monero held a contest for logo design where they offered 300 MRO, solicited over 60 designs and asked for changes, then cancelled the contest. They're now running a new one on another site, with all nine pages of designs, feedback and revisions submitted on bitcointalk up for other designers to draw on for inspiration.

Scummy, isn't it? If you offer money for designs, and you're given designs, you pay what you said you'd pay. Period. If you made a mistake in setting up the contest, you PAY for your mistake. You should have paid for your mistake in MRO for a design that you might not think is perfect, but which you then own outright and take elsewhere to tweak. This is what ethical people would have done.

But you've chosen to pay for your mistake by using your reputation as collateral. So...

Fuck you, monero, your team doesn't deserve support or respect. I don't care if this clusterfuck of a design contest came out of stupidity or malice, you've shown you don't know what you're doing. If you can't run a simple design contest with a shred of integrity, then you SURE AS FUCK can't properly develop a cryptocurrency that you expect the whole world to latch onto.

Hmm, 60 designs submissions and only one complaint about moving the contest to https://99designs.com/logo-design/contests/monero-mro-cryptocurrency-logo-design-contest-382486 to get more submissions.  There is nothing from stopping you from refining your logo and submitting to this site.  I just looked and it appears that several people have already done just that.

A logo contest contest doesn't pay for designs, it rewards the winner of the contest.  The contest isn't cancelled it is still ongoing as there has been nobody with a winning logo.  Nothing is stopping you from submitting as many logo's as you want to that site.  You can still enter and win if you design the winning logo.  Do you expect to get paid for just a submission?  Because that doesn't happen anywhere.
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