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legendary
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I know I should know how too... but how do I use moneroaddress.org offline.  Is there someway to download it onto a USB and stick it onto a computer that's offline?

Well I think the easiest way would be just to go to moneroaddress.org, to unplug the internet connection and to be sure that computer does not connect by itself to any other wifi, to click the create wallet button, to print the page with mnemonic seed, public address, spend key, view key and such, delete browser history and data, close the browser and restart the whole computer.

I am quite paranoid, so I boot my machine from Ubuntu DVD which cannot contain any malware, hopefully, and do the rest like described above. I also use a very simple printer which has no wifi and has just a very little memory to store any data. So I use very cheap printer. Which is great. Smiley

Good method. Slightly better would be a custom DVD with just a trusted OS and the moneroaddress page. You would not need to connect to the internet at all.



So you can take any old blank DVD laying around and burn these programs on there? Or maybe a flash drive?  What if the computer has been connected to the internet for a long time?

Also how would you go about monitoring your wallet and seeing what your account balance is, spend it, etc.?

Flash drive is writable, so in theory malware could infiltrate and maliciously store your wallet there. Best is to create the wallet on hardware with no persistent storage at all, but that is difficult to achieve in practice since there is flash firmware in most hardware.

In practice creating a USB stick with OS and the wallet generator, then booting on an offline system is probably good enough. For extra paranoia, completely wipe the stick before plugging it back into an online system for reuse. A burned DVD would be slightly better.

For monitoring payments to the wallet you can use a view key wallet. The goal of this method overall would be for long-term storage, so it would be unspendable. To (eventually) spend you would generally restore the wallet to an online system (then no longer consider the wallet suitable for long term storage). We're working on methods to sign transactions offline, but its not really usable yet.
legendary
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Yes, you can burn a live OS onto a DVD. Something like Tails could be a good option (https://tails.boum.org/). It wouldn't matter if the computer had been connected to the internet before, the OS runs entirely off of the DVD and does not write any data to persistent media (unless you explicitly make it do so).
hero member
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Keep what's important, and know who's your friend
I know I should know how too... but how do I use moneroaddress.org offline.  Is there someway to download it onto a USB and stick it onto a computer that's offline?

Well I think the easiest way would be just to go to moneroaddress.org, to unplug the internet connection and to be sure that computer does not connect by itself to any other wifi, to click the create wallet button, to print the page with mnemonic seed, public address, spend key, view key and such, delete browser history and data, close the browser and restart the whole computer.

I am quite paranoid, so I boot my machine from Ubuntu DVD which cannot contain any malware, hopefully, and do the rest like described above. I also use a very simple printer which has no wifi and has just a very little memory to store any data. So I use very cheap printer. Which is great. Smiley

Good method. Slightly better would be a custom DVD with just a trusted OS and the moneroaddress page. You would not need to connect to the internet at all.



So you can take any old blank DVD laying around and burn these programs on there? Or maybe a flash drive?  What if the computer has been connected to the internet for a long time?

Also how would you go about monitoring your wallet and seeing what your account balance is, spend it, etc.?
legendary
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There is not yet a site for monero paper wallet generator. But we can have such a site by slightly modifying mymonero.com.

Try this site: https://moneroaddress.org/

You can save that page and use offline.


I know I should know how too... but how do I use moneroaddress.org offline.  Is there someway to download it onto a USB and stick it onto a computer that's offline?

Download the .zip file from -> https://github.com/moneromooo-monero/monero-wallet-generator/ (moneroaddress.org is simply a port of that).

It contains a .html file (with a similiar UI as moneroaddress.org) that you can use offline to generate a wallet.

That, or you should be able to use your browser save function.

legendary
Activity: 2968
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I know I should know how too... but how do I use moneroaddress.org offline.  Is there someway to download it onto a USB and stick it onto a computer that's offline?

Well I think the easiest way would be just to go to moneroaddress.org, to unplug the internet connection and to be sure that computer does not connect by itself to any other wifi, to click the create wallet button, to print the page with mnemonic seed, public address, spend key, view key and such, delete browser history and data, close the browser and restart the whole computer.

I am quite paranoid, so I boot my machine from Ubuntu DVD which cannot contain any malware, hopefully, and do the rest like described above. I also use a very simple printer which has no wifi and has just a very little memory to store any data. So I use very cheap printer. Which is great. Smiley

Good method. Slightly better would be a custom DVD with just a trusted OS and the moneroaddress page. You would not need to connect to the internet at all.

legendary
Activity: 2968
Merit: 1198
There is not yet a site for monero paper wallet generator. But we can have such a site by slightly modifying mymonero.com.

Try this site: https://moneroaddress.org/

You can save that page and use offline.



Well that is i great site. How long has it been alive? There is more words in mnemonic seed than mymonero.com creates. Is this a new feature of monero or the site?

I'm not sure how long the site has been around.

The 25 word format is the standard used by simplewallet and can also be used with MyMonero. The shorter format can only be used with MyMonero (or with simplewallet using a non-standard and apparently-slightly-flaky code mod).


I am using MyMonero.com with 13 word seed. So if MyMonero.com goes off-line I can reach my coins only by non-standard flaky version of simplewallet? If so, looks like I has to move my coins to a wallet created by moneroaddress.org.


I am quite sure if MyMonero goes offline and fluffypony disappears that someone will have the properly working code online within the day. However, a wallet created by moneroaddress.org is both compatible with simplewallet and MyMonero. Thus, if you feel safer with such a wallet, I suggest doing that.

This.

Alternately, if you create a wallet with simplewallet instead of creating it via MyMonero you get the same thing -- a 24-word wallet that can easily be used with both.

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I want to remind everyone that please do create many paper wallets. Not jus one. If something happens. Also, take at least two copies of each paper wallet, and store them in two physically different locations that a fire or a flood cannot destroy both of them.
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I know I should know how too... but how do I use moneroaddress.org offline.  Is there someway to download it onto a USB and stick it onto a computer that's offline?

Well I think the easiest way would be just to go to moneroaddress.org, to unplug the internet connection and to be sure that computer does not connect by itself to any other wifi, to click the create wallet button, to print the page with mnemonic seed, public address, spend key, view key and such, delete browser history and data, close the browser and restart the whole computer.

I am quite paranoid, so I boot my machine from Ubuntu DVD which cannot contain any malware, hopefully, and do the rest like described above. I also use a very simple printer which has no wifi and has just a very little memory to store any data. So I use very cheap printer. Which is great. Smiley


I am quite sure if MyMonero goes offline and fluffypony disappears that someone will have the properly working code online within the day. However, a wallet created by moneroaddress.org is both compatible with simplewallet and MyMonero. Thus, if you feel safer with such a wallet, I suggest doing that.

Thats relieving. I think I really anyway will create the wallet by moneroaddress.org.
legendary
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There is not yet a site for monero paper wallet generator. But we can have such a site by slightly modifying mymonero.com.

Try this site: https://moneroaddress.org/

You can save that page and use offline.



Well that is i great site. How long has it been alive? There is more words in mnemonic seed than mymonero.com creates. Is this a new feature of monero or the site?

I'm not sure how long the site has been around.

The 25 word format is the standard used by simplewallet and can also be used with MyMonero. The shorter format can only be used with MyMonero (or with simplewallet using a non-standard and apparently-slightly-flaky code mod).


I am using MyMonero.com with 13 word seed. So if MyMonero.com goes off-line I can reach my coins only by non-standard flaky version of simplewallet? If so, looks like I has to move my coins to a wallet created by moneroaddress.org.


I am quite sure if MyMonero goes offline and fluffypony disappears that someone will have the properly working code online within the day. However, a wallet created by moneroaddress.org is both compatible with simplewallet and MyMonero. Thus, if you feel safer with such a wallet, I suggest doing that.
legendary
Activity: 2268
Merit: 1141
There is not yet a site for monero paper wallet generator. But we can have such a site by slightly modifying mymonero.com.

Try this site: https://moneroaddress.org/

You can save that page and use offline.


I know I should know how too... but how do I use moneroaddress.org offline.  Is there someway to download it onto a USB and stick it onto a computer that's offline?

Download the .zip file from -> https://github.com/moneromooo-monero/monero-wallet-generator/ (moneroaddress.org is simply a port of that).

It contains a .html file (with a similiar UI as moneroaddress.org) that you can use offline to generate a wallet.
hero member
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Keep what's important, and know who's your friend
There is not yet a site for monero paper wallet generator. But we can have such a site by slightly modifying mymonero.com.

Try this site: https://moneroaddress.org/

You can save that page and use offline.


I know I should know how too... but how do I use moneroaddress.org offline.  Is there someway to download it onto a USB and stick it onto a computer that's offline?
full member
Activity: 308
Merit: 109
There is not yet a site for monero paper wallet generator. But we can have such a site by slightly modifying mymonero.com.

Try this site: https://moneroaddress.org/

You can save that page and use offline.



Well that is i great site. How long has it been alive? There is more words in mnemonic seed than mymonero.com creates. Is this a new feature of monero or the site?

I'm not sure how long the site has been around.

The 25 word format is the standard used by simplewallet and can also be used with MyMonero. The shorter format can only be used with MyMonero (or with simplewallet using a non-standard and apparently-slightly-flaky code mod).


I am using MyMonero.com with 13 word seed. So if MyMonero.com goes off-line I can reach my coins only by non-standard flaky version of simplewallet? If so, looks like I has to move my coins to a wallet created by moneroaddress.org.
legendary
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New 32bit binaries for v0.9.1

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Latest Unofficial builds on commitId ddfeb0018fa268bf2038ada8ae14730855933a20 from https://github.com/LMDB/bitmonero/tree/win32fix


Fixed a couple Win32 crashes in bitmonerod, and a crash in blockchain_import.

Thanks to hyc!

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/433w2u/new_32bit_binaries_for_v091/
hero member
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Looks like 25 words is the way to go. 
I have a 13 word mymonero wallet.  I would like to use a 25 word wallet, but I'm not inclined to do a kludge-y conversion from 13 to 25 words.
legendary
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There is not yet a site for monero paper wallet generator. But we can have such a site by slightly modifying mymonero.com.

Try this site: https://moneroaddress.org/

You can save that page and use offline.



Well that is i great site. How long has it been alive? There is more words in mnemonic seed than mymonero.com creates. Is this a new feature of monero or the site?

It has been online for quite some time now, I think 6-8 months. Simplewallet and Moneroaddress both use 25 words mnemonic seeds, whereas MyMonero uses 13 words mnemonic seeds. You can read a bit more about it here -> http://xmrtests.llcoins.net/addresstests.html

See "How Cryptonote Addresses Are Created".
legendary
Activity: 2968
Merit: 1198
There is not yet a site for monero paper wallet generator. But we can have such a site by slightly modifying mymonero.com.

Try this site: https://moneroaddress.org/

You can save that page and use offline.



Well that is i great site. How long has it been alive? There is more words in mnemonic seed than mymonero.com creates. Is this a new feature of monero or the site?

I'm not sure how long the site has been around.

The 25 word format is the standard used by simplewallet and can also be used with MyMonero. The shorter format can only be used with MyMonero (or with simplewallet using a non-standard and apparently-slightly-flaky code mod).



full member
Activity: 308
Merit: 109
There is not yet a site for monero paper wallet generator. But we can have such a site by slightly modifying mymonero.com.

Try this site: https://moneroaddress.org/

You can save that page and use offline.



Well that is i great site. How long has it been alive? There is more words in mnemonic seed than mymonero.com creates. Is this a new feature of monero or the site?
legendary
Activity: 2968
Merit: 1198
There is not yet a site for monero paper wallet generator. But we can have such a site by slightly modifying mymonero.com.

Try this site: https://moneroaddress.org/

You can save that page and use offline.
full member
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Merit: 109
There is not yet a site for monero paper wallet generator. But we can have such a site by slightly modifying mymonero.com.

At mymonero.com internet connection can be disconnected and then the mnemonic seed can be created.

So lets change the site the way that it shows also the address and the view key of the just created mnemonic seed. And we have a offline monero paper wallet generator.

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@Arux, great job! Did you know the code for restoring a MyMonero seed was already up on Github? (not merged however)

Perhaps you could take a look at it and merge it with your code such that it becomes bugfree.

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The code to add support for MyMonero derivation to simplewallet was already written a year ago: https://github.com/warptangent/bitmonero/commit/35b1500536a98e02ea459ca6ccb42e8248de43a8

to be clear, it's the code that i tested. i didn't write a single line of code, only copy/paste warptangent's work.
it was a test (positive despite some bugs), i can't honestly merge a code written by somebody else.
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