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"[XMR] Monero - The Future: Fungible, Wild, Free || Mandatory: v0.9.1"

Fixed?   Tongue

"[XMR] Monero - We Have Ponies and Moos || ZOMG Mandatory ZOMG: v0.9.1"
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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
binaryFate, simple and neat.  I have learned to always give great weight to what you say whether they are small things or of great importance. 

smooth, good points.  How best to do this?

iCEBREAKER, yes cryptocurrency is redundant.  After reading many posts on bct it seems that people don't really know what fungibility is so I don't know if it is a key selling point.  After all btc is fungable  Grin so therefore I guess all cryptocurrencies are.  Please take the emoticon as irony, sarcasm or whatever emotion I was trying for Tongue

I just felt it was important to get every on board properly.  Taking into account those that do not spend enough time to know all that is going on and those that are relatively new.

Then there are the slow ones.  This post took me over 1/2 an hour.

Thank you for your consideration, The Drooling Masses™

I vote for Hueristic's enigmatic submission.

"[XMR] Monero - The Future, Fungible || Mandatory: v0.9.1"

People don't know what 'fungible' means because it has several (overlapping/conflicting/contextual/technical/economic/casual/controversial/radial) definitions.

That intriguing vagueness is a good thing.

People don't know exactly why being 'fungible' is so important , but they know it's from the future and they want it!   Cool
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binaryFate, simple and neat.  I have learned to always give great weight to what you say whether they are small things or of great importance. 

smooth, good points.  How best to do this?

iCEBREAKER, yes cryptocurrency is redundant.  After reading many posts on bct it seems that people don't really know what fungibility is so I don't know if it is a key selling point.  After all btc is fungable  Grin so therefore I guess all cryptocurrencies are.  Please take the emoticon as irony, sarcasm or whatever emotion I was trying for Tongue

I just felt it was important to get every on board properly.  Taking into account those that do not spend enough time to know all that is going on and those that are relatively new.

Then there are the slow ones.  This post took me over 1/2 an hour.

Thank you for your consideration, The Drooling Masses™
legendary
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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
"[XMR] Monero - The Future: Fungible, Wild, Free || Mandatory: v0.9.1"

Fixed?   Tongue
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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
"[XMR] Monero - The Future, Fungible || Mandatory: v0.9.1"
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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
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updated by fluffypony

"[XMR] Monero - Secure, private, untraceable, fungible.  || Latest: v0.9.1"

By context we know it's a cryptocurrency, and (100%) fungibility is a key selling point.
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The the slogan out for now (or if not now, maybe a month from now). Put it back after the fork.

Also, I like presenting it as "mandatory by [date]" which not like "ZOMG WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE" and more of an advance notice, especially since the voting stuff isn't fully implemented (in the future the wallet/node should provide a notice automatically).



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A small complication with updating the OP, input requested.

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updated by fluffypony

"[XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency || Latest: v0.9.1"

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A small complication with updating the OP, input requested.

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updated by fluffypony
If you can delete, the original title has about three dozen dispensable characters.
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updated by fluffypony

"[XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable currency || Version 0.9.1"

mebbe
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updated by fluffypony
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...- Bonus question: Sorry I forgot, why again was I2P once preffered over TOR to be integrated/used with Monero?
Maybe someone can remind me or point to a link, where I can read it up myself.


Probably because Tor is widely accepted as being cracked by TPTB. But something is better than nothing so go for it in the mean time. Smiley

I believe there is no reason not to have the mandatory notice on the bct announce page OP.

Those type of notices used to be in the title of the thread.

I understand it says "We are moving away from Bitcointalk" in the OP but still this is critical info.  This type of info used to be in the title of this thread.


It's not a mandatory update from 0.9, but it is a mandatory update from 0.8.x. A fresh sync with 0.9 works just fine, a lot of 0.9 nodes aren't on the bad fork any longer (longest chain rule), and the 1 or 2 nodes that still seem to (bizarrely) be stuck will figure out they need to update.

Re: the thread title, with the mandatory hard fork policy every update is mandatory. We can put the latest version in the title, but I'm not sure it's necessary to use the word mandatory - thoughts?

I completely agree with Nioc.

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I believe there is no reason not to have the mandatory notice on the bct announce page OP.

Those type of notices used to be in the title of the thread.

I understand it says "We are moving away from Bitcointalk" in the OP but still this is critical info.  This type of info used to be in the title of this thread.


It's not a mandatory update from 0.9, but it is a mandatory update from 0.8.x. A fresh sync with 0.9 works just fine, a lot of 0.9 nodes aren't on the bad fork any longer (longest chain rule), and the 1 or 2 nodes that still seem to (bizarrely) be stuck will figure out they need to update.

Re: the thread title, with the mandatory hard fork policy every update is mandatory. We can put the latest version in the title, but I'm not sure it's necessary to use the word mandatory - thoughts?

On reddit the thread titled "MANDATORY UPGRADE for everyone that is running v0.9.0 - Hydrogen Helix" is stickied so I assumed something like that should be noted here.

As far as going forward, I assume our constant hardfork policy is unique and I think each time a new hardfork comes out that the proper action required should be communicated as hopefully we will have new users each hardfork.  

Thank you for everything fluffypony Smiley

BTW I didn't win the lottery today but I collected enough cans and bottles for the next drawing Grin



I added the mandatory part to the thread because on the day itself it was kind of necessary for everyone to upgrade. After that, fluffypony stickied the thread and I can't change the topic title.

More info about the hard fork schedule: https://forum.getmonero.org/4/academic-and-technical/303/a-formal-approach-towards-better-hard-fork-management

I agree with smooth here btw.
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I believe there is no reason not to have the mandatory notice on the bct announce page OP.

Those type of notices used to be in the title of the thread.

I understand it says "We are moving away from Bitcointalk" in the OP but still this is critical info.  This type of info used to be in the title of this thread.


It's not a mandatory update from 0.9, but it is a mandatory update from 0.8.x. A fresh sync with 0.9 works just fine, a lot of 0.9 nodes aren't on the bad fork any longer (longest chain rule), and the 1 or 2 nodes that still seem to (bizarrely) be stuck will figure out they need to update.

Re: the thread title, with the mandatory hard fork policy every update is mandatory. We can put the latest version in the title, but I'm not sure it's necessary to use the word mandatory - thoughts?

On reddit the thread titled "MANDATORY UPGRADE for everyone that is running v0.9.0 - Hydrogen Helix" is stickied so I assumed something like that should be noted here.

As far as going forward, I assume our constant hardfork policy is unique and I think each time a new hardfork comes out that the proper action required should be communicated as hopefully we will have new users each hardfork. 

Thank you for everything fluffypony Smiley

BTW I didn't win the lottery today but I collected enough cans and bottles for the next drawing Grin

legendary
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I believe there is no reason not to have the mandatory notice on the bct announce page OP.

Those type of notices used to be in the title of the thread.

I understand it says "We are moving away from Bitcointalk" in the OP but still this is critical info.  This type of info used to be in the title of this thread.


It's not a mandatory update from 0.9, but it is a mandatory update from 0.8.x. A fresh sync with 0.9 works just fine, a lot of 0.9 nodes aren't on the bad fork any longer (longest chain rule), and the 1 or 2 nodes that still seem to (bizarrely) be stuck will figure out they need to update.

Re: the thread title, with the mandatory hard fork policy every update is mandatory. We can put the latest version in the title, but I'm not sure it's necessary to use the word mandatory - thoughts?

The policy is valid but this being the first one I would say the point should be emphasized a bit. The older version is going to stop working in two months, after being current for well over a 1 year. We should make clear that the time to upgrade is now.

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Want to finally try this coin. What wallet is better?
One that you keep safe. If you're ok running a full node, the standard command line wallet is certainly a good pick.

Is there any good web wallets like blockchain's for bitcoin?
-> MyMonero <-

These are the ones available:
https://getmonero.org/getting-started/choose
legendary
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Want to finally try this coin. What wallet is better?
One that you keep safe. If you're ok running a full node, the standard command line wallet is certainly a good pick.

Is there any good web wallets like blockchain's for bitcoin?
-> MyMonero <-
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Want to finally try this coin. What wallet is better? Is there any good web wallets like blockchain's for bitcoin?
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I believe there is no reason not to have the mandatory notice on the bct announce page OP.

Those type of notices used to be in the title of the thread.

I understand it says "We are moving away from Bitcointalk" in the OP but still this is critical info.  This type of info used to be in the title of this thread.


It's not a mandatory update from 0.9, but it is a mandatory update from 0.8.x. A fresh sync with 0.9 works just fine, a lot of 0.9 nodes aren't on the bad fork any longer (longest chain rule), and the 1 or 2 nodes that still seem to (bizarrely) be stuck will figure out they need to update.

Re: the thread title, with the mandatory hard fork policy every update is mandatory. We can put the latest version in the title, but I'm not sure it's necessary to use the word mandatory - thoughts?
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Reading the quote "While Monero isn't made to integrate with Tor, it can be used wrapped with torsocks, if you add --p2p-bind-ip 127.0.0.1 to the bitmonerod command line." in README.md at the repo, leads me to the following questions:

- Whats the status of this TOR-support via wrapper? Is this option: fully functioning and secure to use for people with basic TOR & crypto knowledge. Or this more like an draft/proof of concept/not supported dirty hack?

- Are more Monero I2P-nodes needed?

- Are more Monero TOR-nodes needed?

- In which clearnet geographical region are new nodes needed? Any suggestions?
(Without needs test, I randomly did setup 4 nodes in Asia yesterday: Hong Kong, Kuala Lumpur, Singapore and Kota Kinabalu[MY].)
So next time, I get pocket money from my grandmother and I decide to buy more nodes, I would deploy them, where they are needed. :-)

- Bonus question: Sorry I forgot, why again was I2P once preffered over TOR to be integrated/used with Monero?
Maybe someone can remind me or point to a link, where I can read it up myself.


Smooth already answered your first questions.

Anyway, you can see the geographical distribution of Monero nodes here -> https://monerohash.com/#network

Regarding bonus question: I would suggest to listen to the podcast -> http://podbay.fm/show/1032156854/e/1451151298?autostart=1

They discuss it in there.
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