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legendary
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I have a knopix bootable Linux OS CD for emergencies

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Any thoughts, criticisms, or suggestions?  
I think you are beeing a litle too extreme Tongue

I just generated my wallet on my PC, write down the words on a paper and saved the keys in a pen drive... i think that if you are gonna to install linux or dont have to convert much about security if that is the only thing you gonna do with the computer... i dont think you need an secound laptop for generating a cold wallet... also, i dont see any problem of instaling SO from pen drive... you write the ISO directly on the flash drive as you would on CD or DVD, if you suspect of that you have to suspect that the program that you are using to create the flash (pendrivelinux or whatever) will inject some kind of malicious software on your SO

legendary
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--snip--
Firewall, no script, and adblock were all activated on this machine.  
--snip--

Perhaps install MalwareBytes also as an additional security measure.
 

These are both Linux systems...  Not sure if you are being sarcastic or not.  Cheesy

Oh gosh, what a mistake  Cheesy. Completely missed that. The fact that it's already late here doesn't help either :-P My apologies for cluttering the thread!
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Hey, but now that you mention it, I did have some problems even with that HP model installing Mint. 
 
What happened was I couldn't install because it kept telling me part of the Windows partition was in use, but I just kept half-installing and restarting and on the third time it went through while warning me that the entire drive would be erased (good). 
 
Even now, turning the laptop on from being totally off takes me to an error screen telling me that my computer is corrupted and needs manufacturer support.  Then it lets me choose to go to the boot menu where I see the Linux boot partition/loader and everything is fine after that.   
 
I actually prefer it this way, if casual user finds the laptop and turns it on they may just assume it's a broken spare.
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Yeah, that's exactly the sort of system I had in mind. They have a 64 bit CPU but usually a 32 bit boot loader.

The discussion below is out of date and the situation is probably better now but you may have some adventures ahead.

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2252391

Once you get it to work though, that should be a great system for Monero. If the install adventures don't scare you then I wouldn't return it.
 
  
What?  Aw, hellllll no.  
  
 


I'm lucky I stopped for some ab-enabling Cheesecake Factory after I checked out.  Man, I'm still across the street and they got this model on sale for $170.  
  

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-stream-11-6-laptop-intel-celeron-2gb-memory-32gb-emmc-solid-state-drive-horizon-blue/9195102.p?id=1219398344673   
  
I'll just go exchange it out real quick.  That hassle ain't worth $20.
  
Thanks smooth!  You just saved me some trouble.
hero member
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Great step forward

Comment: the second "cold wallet only" laptop with a resident install is pretty extreme.
Using a bootable distro (from cd or usb) to generate cold wallets would work almost as good on laptop #1 (if disconnected from internet during the live bootable session entirely - and minus possible  hardware infections). The advantage being you don't need to rely on your residently installed distribution on laptop #2 (this could be compromised silently with physical access while you're not home). For that matter (integrity of linux bootable media) I would advise cd rather than usb stick. Buy a cheap cd reader if laptop doesn't have any.
So suggestion in general: boot with cd on laptop #1 to generate cold wallet. Paranoid suggestion given you have two laptops: boot with cd on laptop #2 to generate cold wallet.
And better stick to good old CDs (of which you'll have checked the hash - md5 or shaX).

Ah and 2FA on poloniex is a must.
 
  
Thanks for your suggestions and time.  With yours and smooths encouragement I will take it to the next level and attempt to install mint via a CD and the external drive.  Also, 2fa security on erreything, erryday.  
  
My girl don't even drop her panties unless I authenticate with a signed text message.  Mutha fukin tom cruise and his mission impossible masks have cuckolded me for the last time.
legendary
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I have an external USB DVD drive, but I'm not sure how I would use that to install a Linux distribution via CD without having to resort to the USB stick.

I have done that many times. Sometimes it requires changing some BIOS settings, but I don't remember ever not being able to get it to work.  

If that ultracheap laptop is one of those Atom-based systems with the hybrid 32-bit/64-bit hardware, you can still get Linux to work, but setup is a bit trickier.

 
  
Just checked the processor on the second compy; I think I'll be ok.  It doesn't say anything but 64-bit in the description.  
  
http://ark.intel.com/m/products/80274/Intel-Atom-Processor-Z3735F-2M-Cache-up-to-1_83-GHz#@product/specifications

Yeah, that's exactly the sort of system I had in mind. They have a 64 bit CPU but usually a 32 bit boot loader.

The discussion below is out of date and the situation is probably better now but you may have some adventures ahead.

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2252391

Once you get it to work though, that should be a great system for Monero. If the install adventures don't scare you then I wouldn't return it.
hero member
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--snip--
 Firewall, no script, and adblock were all activated on this machine.  
--snip--

Perhaps install MalwareBytes also as an additional security measure.
 

These are both Linux systems...  Not sure if you are being sarcastic or not.  Cheesy
legendary
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--snip--
 Firewall, no script, and adblock were all activated on this machine.  
--snip--

Perhaps install MalwareBytes also as an additional security measure.
legendary
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Still wild and free
Great step forward

Comment: the second "cold wallet only" laptop with a resident install is pretty extreme.
Using a bootable distro (from cd or usb) to generate cold wallets would work almost as good on laptop #1 (if disconnected from internet during the live bootable session entirely - and minus possible  hardware infections). The advantage being you don't need to rely on your residently installed distribution on laptop #2 (this could be compromised silently with physical access while you're not home). For that matter (integrity of linux bootable media) I would advise cd rather than usb stick. Buy a cheap cd reader if laptop doesn't have any.
So suggestion in general: boot with cd on laptop #1 to generate cold wallet. Paranoid suggestion given you have two laptops: boot with cd on laptop #2 to generate cold wallet.
And better stick to good old CDs (of which you'll have checked the hash - md5 or shaX).

Ah and 2FA on poloniex is a must.
hero member
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I have an external USB DVD drive, but I'm not sure how I would use that to install a Linux distribution via CD without having to resort to the USB stick.

I have done that many times. Sometimes it requires changing some BIOS settings, but I don't remember ever not being able to get it to work. 

If that ultracheap laptop is one of those Atom-based systems with the hybrid 32-bit/64-bit hardware, you can still get Linux to work, but setup is a bit trickier.

 
 
Just checked the processor on the second compy; I think I'll be ok.  It doesn't say anything but 64-bit in the description. 
 
http://ark.intel.com/m/products/80274/Intel-Atom-Processor-Z3735F-2M-Cache-up-to-1_83-GHz#@product/specifications
hero member
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I have an external USB DVD drive, but I'm not sure how I would use that to install a Linux distribution via CD without having to resort to the USB stick.

I have done that many times. Sometimes it requires changing some BIOS settings, but I don't remember ever not being able to get it to work. 

If that ultracheap laptop is one of those Atom-based systems with the hybrid 32-bit/64-bit hardware, you can still get Linux to work, but setup is a bit trickier.

 
 
Ah crap, I checked the system info on the demo model and in store it said x64 hardware so I didn't worry. 
 
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-11-6-laptop-intel-atom-2gb-memory-32gb-flash-storage-blue/3953761.p?id=1219610986272 
 
Think this will be a problem?  Worth returning to the store and bumping up to a Celeron processor vs. an Atom? 
legendary
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I have an external USB DVD drive, but I'm not sure how I would use that to install a Linux distribution via CD without having to resort to the USB stick.

I have done that many times. Sometimes it requires changing some BIOS settings, but I don't remember ever not being able to get it to work. 

If that ultracheap laptop is one of those Atom-based systems with the hybrid 32-bit/64-bit hardware, you can still get Linux to work, but setup is a bit trickier.
hero member
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This week I got serious about crypto-security, and bought two small cheap laptops.  I'll be setting them both up for use with Monero exclusively.  Before this, I was basically being a total fucking idiot keeping all my crypto on an exchange accessed with the same laptop I was using to visit SketchyRussianDownloads dot com regularly.
  
So the new setup is this:  
  
Laptop one is a brand new laptop specifically for running a full node, compiling Monero builds, accessing Poloniex, accessing MyMonero and pretty much nothing else.  It booted into Windows 8 once so I could download Linux Mint and then I formatted the hard drive with a Mint installation via a Bootable USB drive (brand new and only used for this purpose).  I did it this way because the laptop doesn't have an internal disc drive.  
  
The second is never intended to touch the Internet.  It will be used only for generating cold wallet addresses.  
  
Unfortunately, it doesn't have an internal CD Drive, so unfortunately I'll have to boot via the same USB drive to install Linux on first startup.  This unfortunate measure will be redeemed slightly by, like I said, the USB drive being brand new and only having ever touched the first laptop mentioned, and then only to become a Mint install drive and nothing else.  
  
I'm gonna call this whole scheme "Pegasus's Pretty-Good Security" PPGS, a nice compromise between troublesome paranoia and what an average computer fluent person can accomplish with two days and a few hundred dollars.  
  
I have an external USB DVD drive, but I'm not sure how I would use that to install a Linux distribution via CD without having to resort to the USB stick.  I plan to use the external DVD drive to burn some (encrypted) backups of all cold private keys generated though.  
  
Any thoughts, criticisms, or suggestions?  
  
I've already set up the first laptop and accomplished the first three objectives: access Poloniex with it, and change my password to a new password only ever used on that machine; access MyMonero with it and create a new account only ever accessed with that laptop, and compile/run the latest Monero source with it.  Firewall, no script, and adblock were all activated on this machine.  As well, the part of Linux (I forget the name) that can emulate some windows functions was turned off.  
  
The second laptop is still brand new in the box.  But since it only cost $150 and a model with an internal DVD drive is $280 I feel that I'm pretty satisfied with installing Linux on my cold machine via USB.  (The one in a million chance that there's some factory pre-installed Chinese spyware on the USB isn't worth an extra $150 IMHO)  
  
Alright, hit me with your best shot.  Pretty good security, or am I being a tard?  Obviously both laptops will be encrypted at the Linux level and also have a BIOS password.  Would you trust this setup with a million dollars?
legendary
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Monero price range stable between 190k~220k sat.

its very good,the community support this coin. i just want to see more gambling site to spend my monero, anyone could tell me? besides safedice

If I recall correctly SafeDice is currently the only gambling site accepting XMR.
hero member
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Monero price range stable between 190k~220k sat.

its very good,the community support this coin. i just want to see more gambling site to spend my monero, anyone could tell me? besides safedice
legendary
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How many xmr (maximum) can i send on Polonex (by one transaction) from MoneroClient.Net?

theoretically, all of them. Though the cost of the transaction will depend on the outputs you have (if I understand things correctly)

All of them modulo fee, unless you have very small dust, due to the per-byte fee.
You may have more luck with a recent simplewallet, which has a transfer_new command which allows you to send more of your balance at once (by not creating intermediary change in those cases).

Note that transfers with large amounts of outputs (or large mixin) can be split in several transactions automatically by simplewallet (and probably MoneroClient too, but I'm speculating here).


I try sending 64, and its freeze.

I think freezing on transfers is a known bug with jojaketoks software. You can easily work around this by doing things in the command line, but I don't have the time to walk you through it. If you can hop on IRC someone can probably walk you through it.

https://kiwiirc.com/client

type in #monero for the channel, and pick a user name. Then ask for help making a transaction on windows...

Does the latest version of jojaketoks client still have this glitch?

Is it related to sending large amounts or does it freeze on any amount?
 

Now i have update the last version 1.2.2, when i send example - 370 xmr and nothing happens.

update:

Trying to send 20 coins, insert address and id, mix 3 times, and the program is closed when you press send? Where is the mistake? version 1.2.2.

Not sure but check for spaces in front of what you enter, is your ID a valid number of characters?
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novag
How many xmr (maximum) can i send on Polonex (by one transaction) from MoneroClient.Net?

theoretically, all of them. Though the cost of the transaction will depend on the outputs you have (if I understand things correctly)

All of them modulo fee, unless you have very small dust, due to the per-byte fee.
You may have more luck with a recent simplewallet, which has a transfer_new command which allows you to send more of your balance at once (by not creating intermediary change in those cases).

Note that transfers with large amounts of outputs (or large mixin) can be split in several transactions automatically by simplewallet (and probably MoneroClient too, but I'm speculating here).


I try sending 64, and its freeze.

I think freezing on transfers is a known bug with jojaketoks software. You can easily work around this by doing things in the command line, but I don't have the time to walk you through it. If you can hop on IRC someone can probably walk you through it.

https://kiwiirc.com/client

type in #monero for the channel, and pick a user name. Then ask for help making a transaction on windows...

Does the latest version of jojaketoks client still have this glitch?

Is it related to sending large amounts or does it freeze on any amount?
 

Now i have update the last version 1.2.2, when i send example - 370 xmr and nothing happens.

update:

Trying to send 20 coins, insert address and id, mix 3 times, and the program is closed when you press send? Where is the mistake? version 1.2.2.
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1000
How many xmr (maximum) can i send on Polonex (by one transaction) from MoneroClient.Net?

theoretically, all of them. Though the cost of the transaction will depend on the outputs you have (if I understand things correctly)

All of them modulo fee, unless you have very small dust, due to the per-byte fee.
You may have more luck with a recent simplewallet, which has a transfer_new command which allows you to send more of your balance at once (by not creating intermediary change in those cases).

Note that transfers with large amounts of outputs (or large mixin) can be split in several transactions automatically by simplewallet (and probably MoneroClient too, but I'm speculating here).


I try sending 64, and its freeze.

I think freezing on transfers is a known bug with jojaketoks software. You can easily work around this by doing things in the command line, but I don't have the time to walk you through it. If you can hop on IRC someone can probably walk you through it.

https://kiwiirc.com/client

type in #monero for the channel, and pick a user name. Then ask for help making a transaction on windows...

Does the latest version of jojaketoks client still have this glitch?

Is it related to sending large amounts or does it freeze on any amount?
 
legendary
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How many xmr (maximum) can i send on Polonex (by one transaction) from MoneroClient.Net?

theoretically, all of them. Though the cost of the transaction will depend on the outputs you have (if I understand things correctly)

All of them modulo fee, unless you have very small dust, due to the per-byte fee.
You may have more luck with a recent simplewallet, which has a transfer_new command which allows you to send more of your balance at once (by not creating intermediary change in those cases).

Note that transfers with large amounts of outputs (or large mixin) can be split in several transactions automatically by simplewallet (and probably MoneroClient too, but I'm speculating here).


I try sending 64, and its freeze.

I think freezing on transfers is a known bug with jojaketoks software. You can easily work around this by doing things in the command line, but I don't have the time to walk you through it. If you can hop on IRC someone can probably walk you through it.

https://kiwiirc.com/client

type in #monero for the channel, and pick a user name. Then ask for help making a transaction on windows...
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