Topic: [XMR] Monero Speculation - page 1271. (Read 3314316 times)
Monero stronger and stronger day by day.
Next resistance zone is around 270k.
That gap between 27 and 38 needs to be filled.How are your feelings on XMR currently? Extremely bullish or bearish?
Bearish now that most likely you will begin the dumpage
Thanks for some nice profits though
Next resistance zone is around 270k.
That gap between 27 and 38 needs to be filled.How are your feelings on XMR currently? Extremely bullish or bearish?
If Polo won't commit to them, I will be finding another exchange and encouraging others to do the same.
Centralized exchanges have their role and finding another one may the right call for you, but either way I would still encourage trying to build liquidity on bitsqaure. I've had offers on there at times but I was often alone on the order book and didn't get any fills. I'll continue to list when I have the opportunity to do so.
How solid is the Bitsquare platform? Does it rely on "smart" contracts?
Very solid, I have made a few trades on it. You need to get used to the interface and the trade mechanic. No smart contracts...but it does use multisig.
How long until it supports advanced features like margin trading? That is probably a way out. It needs more developers.
Is there a testnet version to try out?There may be a test net version, but the main net works fine.
Once Bitsquare is somewhat comparable/competitive feature-wise, I'd be happy to offer some XMR there at a discount, to coax volume away from the morally hazardous exchange under the command of ETH Fed Chairman Vitalik "Helicopter" Buterin.
One other thing: You have to keep the app running to see offers and keep the app running to keep your own offer alive.
I copied it from github but I don't know how to run the application?
you can also build from source https://github.com/bitsquare/bitsquare/blob/master/doc/build.md but using deb package is by far easier. (always use trusted package of course)
Managed to remove my asks in time, just barely. This train ain't stopping more than a few minutes before a new HH is found.
When are you guys going to drop your fascist bully mascot?
When Monero is beaten down to 0.001? 0.0005?
iCE is a [expletive deleted], but you guys are enablers.
OK. I've dropped him. Now what should I do? 🤔
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When are you guys going to drop your fascist bully mascot?
When Monero is beaten down to 0.001? 0.0005?
iCE is a [expletive deleted], but you guys are enablers.
OK. I've dropped him. Now what should I do? 🤔
When are you guys going to drop your fascist bully mascot?
When Monero is beaten down to 0.001? 0.0005?
iCE is a [expletive deleted], but you guys are enablers.
Dude, Icebreaker does what Icebreaker wants--this is FOSS. The day I stop surfing because I don't like crabs, is the day I've officially lost my mind.
Meanwhile
Next stop 3$
Next stop 3$
When are you guys going to drop your fascist bully mascot?
When Monero is beaten down to 0.001? 0.0005?
iCE is a [expletive deleted], but you guys are enablers.
The trolling is in the form and approach, not the content.
You will have the last world as I have neither time nor eloquence to discuss that properly right now. btw English is my 3rd language, maybe I should indeed head to DOGE, it might better fit my capabilities. "Much amaze" and "such currency" looks a hell of a lot easier.
You will have the last world as I have neither time nor eloquence to discuss that properly right now. btw English is my 3rd language, maybe I should indeed head to DOGE, it might better fit my capabilities. "Much amaze" and "such currency" looks a hell of a lot easier.
Your English is better than most Americans, and conversing with me further improves your vocabulary.
Yes, I sometimes tend be a wrecking ball (and prickly when my position is misrepresented by accusations of perfection-seeking).
But your asinine talking point about "trading was only closed for 2 minutes" is condemnable, and should be demolished.
I did that by pointing out fortunes were made and lost in that short time, with Polo admins picking the winners and losers.
Then you just dropped the argument as if you had never made it, much less read my response.
That's rude, and borderline trolling. Did you make that "but but only 2 min" argument as a throw away position to waste my time?
Regardless, let's be friends and get back to enjoying the rally and some quality shitposting!
*snip*
The 2 min thing was not do diminish the importance/impact/mistake of it but to show that trading was resumed as soon as exchanges understood/were told more of the actual situation. Poorly phrased and contexted, I admit.
I think the issue is ontopic after all, as long as XMR is mostly being traded on the exchange in question. An exchange that over the time of his existence has done much more right than wrong in my opinion and deserves recognition as well as criticism.
The trolling is in the form and approach, not the content.
You will have the last world as I have neither time nor eloquence to discuss that properly right now. btw English is my 3rd language, maybe I should indeed head to DOGE, it might better fit my capabilities. "Much amaze" and "such currency" looks a hell of a lot easier.
You will have the last world as I have neither time nor eloquence to discuss that properly right now. btw English is my 3rd language, maybe I should indeed head to DOGE, it might better fit my capabilities. "Much amaze" and "such currency" looks a hell of a lot easier.
Your English is better than most Americans, and conversing with me further improves your vocabulary.
Yes, I sometimes tend be a wrecking ball (and prickly when my position is misrepresented by accusations of perfection-seeking).
But your asinine talking point about "trading was only closed for 2 minutes" is condemnable, and should be demolished.
I did that by pointing out fortunes were made and lost in that short time, with Polo admins picking the winners and losers.
Then you just dropped the argument as if you had never made it, much less read my response.
That's rude, and borderline trolling. Did you make that "but but only 2 min" argument as a throw away position to waste my time?
Regardless, let's be friends and get back to enjoying the rally and some quality shitposting!
In the mean time, XMR is breaking out. I missed the trade though, but have orders ready at .00235 - .00255. I blame the DAO hack. As all my attention went there.
Good luck to those who got in.
Good luck to those who got in.
this time is still goo to buying XMR ? long ? short ?
In the mean time, XMR is breaking out. I missed the trade though, but have orders ready at .00235 - .00255. I blame the DAO hack. As all my attention went there.
Good luck to those who got in.
Good luck to those who got in.
I think you are expecting too much.
You pretend a perfectly balanced, economically, ethically, morally and philosophically pondered decision to be made in the very moment an event of tectonic dimensions takes place in the altcoin world. At a time where nobody, apparently not even the ETH devs have really understood what is going on, much less a bunch of exchange reps who are given no information about the nature and possible cause of said event.
If you were to read the rest of the log you would see how that unfolds...but you know that, right?
plenty more where that came from to show that none of the exchange reps present in that chat just did what Vitalik Leninowitsch Butlerin told them to do.
You have the heart in the right place but your wrecking ball method is fucking annoying and has been for a long time.
Anyway I have no time for off topic troll wars.
ON Topic: XMR to da moon!
EDIT: for what it's worth I fully agree with you that exchanges should never halt trading as long as there isn't some serious issue with the blockchain itself!
You pretend a perfectly balanced, economically, ethically, morally and philosophically pondered decision to be made in the very moment an event of tectonic dimensions takes place in the altcoin world. At a time where nobody, apparently not even the ETH devs have really understood what is going on, much less a bunch of exchange reps who are given no information about the nature and possible cause of said event.
If you were to read the rest of the log you would see how that unfolds...but you know that, right?
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[4:47:08 AM] Tristan D'Agosta: It is much more likely to cause market panic if the blockchain is considered unreliable
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[4:00:11 AM] Tristan D'Agosta: Disabling trading is about as extreme as it gets. Why are we being asked to do this? Is it only to prevent the attacker from cashing out?
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[4:02:25 AM] Tristan D'Agosta: We need to know why before we do that -- we may have a better way of addressing the issue
plenty more where that came from to show that none of the exchange reps present in that chat just did what Vitalik Leninowitsch Butlerin told them to do.
You have the heart in the right place but your wrecking ball method is fucking annoying and has been for a long time.
Anyway I have no time for off topic troll wars.
ON Topic: XMR to da moon!
EDIT: for what it's worth I fully agree with you that exchanges should never halt trading as long as there isn't some serious issue with the blockchain itself!
I didn't ask for perfection-on-the-fly, which is an unreasonable expectation.
I asked for predetermined, optimal rules and principles to be created. Such heuristics may help even (perhaps especially) in scary, surprising, acute, unpredictable, fluid situations.
Polo needs a better approach than "LOL let's just make snap decisions under enormous pressure when something happens and see how it works out." Especially when so many shitcoins they list (*cough* MAID and DASH *cough*) are overdue for DAO-type epic pwning.
I told you exactly what I think and you:
A. concede my heart is in the right place
but (contradicting yourself) also
B. flamebait by insinuating I'm trolling.
If the rhetorical bombast here too much for your delicate sensibilities, you may find the lighthearted fun-and-friendship emphasis over Dogecoin is a better fit.
Don't you think Polo should eschew moral hazard and confirm they will never (again) halt trading as long as there isn't some serious issue with the blockchain itself?
Or is that asking for perfection?
The trolling is in the form and approach, not the content.
You will have the last world as I have neither time nor eloquence to discuss that properly right now. btw English is my 3rd language, maybe I should indeed head to DOGE, it might better fit my capabilities. "Much amaze" and "such currency" looks a hell of a lot easier.
Breaking out of the .001-.004 trading range will be spectacular.
I think you are expecting too much.
You pretend a perfectly balanced, economically, ethically, morally and philosophically pondered decision to be made in the very moment an event of tectonic dimensions takes place in the altcoin world. At a time where nobody, apparently not even the ETH devs have really understood what is going on, much less a bunch of exchange reps who are given no information about the nature and possible cause of said event.
If you were to read the rest of the log you would see how that unfolds...but you know that, right?
plenty more where that came from to show that none of the exchange reps present in that chat just did what Vitalik Leninowitsch Butlerin told them to do.
You have the heart in the right place but your wrecking ball method is fucking annoying and has been for a long time.
Anyway I have no time for off topic troll wars.
ON Topic: XMR to da moon!
EDIT: for what it's worth I fully agree with you that exchanges should never halt trading as long as there isn't some serious issue with the blockchain itself!
You pretend a perfectly balanced, economically, ethically, morally and philosophically pondered decision to be made in the very moment an event of tectonic dimensions takes place in the altcoin world. At a time where nobody, apparently not even the ETH devs have really understood what is going on, much less a bunch of exchange reps who are given no information about the nature and possible cause of said event.
If you were to read the rest of the log you would see how that unfolds...but you know that, right?
Quote
[4:47:08 AM] Tristan D'Agosta: It is much more likely to cause market panic if the blockchain is considered unreliable
Quote
[4:00:11 AM] Tristan D'Agosta: Disabling trading is about as extreme as it gets. Why are we being asked to do this? Is it only to prevent the attacker from cashing out?
Quote
[4:02:25 AM] Tristan D'Agosta: We need to know why before we do that -- we may have a better way of addressing the issue
plenty more where that came from to show that none of the exchange reps present in that chat just did what Vitalik Leninowitsch Butlerin told them to do.
You have the heart in the right place but your wrecking ball method is fucking annoying and has been for a long time.
Anyway I have no time for off topic troll wars.
ON Topic: XMR to da moon!
EDIT: for what it's worth I fully agree with you that exchanges should never halt trading as long as there isn't some serious issue with the blockchain itself!
I didn't ask for perfection-on-the-fly, which is an unreasonable expectation.
I asked for predetermined, optimal rules and principles to be created. Such heuristics may help even (perhaps especially) in scary, surprising, acute, unpredictable, fluid situations.
Polo needs a better approach than "LOL let's just make snap decisions under enormous pressure when something happens and see how it works out." Especially when so many shitcoins they list (*cough* MAID and DASH *cough*) are overdue for DAO-type epic pwning.
I told you exactly what I think and you:
A. concede my heart is in the right place
but (contradicting yourself) also
B. flamebait by insinuating I'm trolling.
If the rhetorical bombast here too much for your delicate sensibilities, you may find the lighthearted fun-and-friendship emphasis over Dogecoin is a better fit.
Don't you think Polo should eschew moral hazard and confirm they will never (again) halt trading as long as there isn't some serious issue with the blockchain itself?
Or is that asking for perfection?
icebreaker I think it is very unsavory of you to present the events re: Poloniex and busoni's reaction out of context.
Here's the full chat log for people who might be interested in the complete picture:
http://pastebin.com/aMKwQcHR
trading was frozen for less than 2 minutes btw...
I trust in the capability of my esteemed Monero community to build their own opinion and not run around with pitchforks and torches screaming SCANDAL.
Here's the full chat log for people who might be interested in the complete picture:
http://pastebin.com/aMKwQcHR
trading was frozen for less than 2 minutes btw...
I trust in the capability of my esteemed Monero community to build their own opinion and not run around with pitchforks and torches screaming SCANDAL.
Fortunes were made and lost in those 2 minutes btw.
"It was only a tiny little bit of moral hazard and arbitrary winner/loser picking" isn't a convincing reason to put down the pitchforks.
I think is is very unsavory of Polo to halt trading FOR ANY AMOUNT OF TIME based on orders from "Helicopter" Buterin's Plunge Protection Team.
Your distracting, myopic focus on the duration of the halt (rather than its impact on traders and the fact it happened at all) betrays the fact you don't understand how smooth's Razor applies to this situation.
Only systems that are structurally incompatible with fraud don't suffer from the overhang of potential fraud.
Do you think my request for Polo to create/clarify/enforce predetermined rules and principles governing similar future situations (rather than just following orders made under VB's coercive rollback extortion) is reasonable?
I think you are expecting too much.
You pretend a perfectly balanced, economically, ethically, morally and philosophically pondered decision to be made in the very moment an event of tectonic dimensions takes place in the altcoin world. At a time where nobody, apparently not even the ETH devs have really understood what is going on, much less a bunch of exchange reps who are given no information about the nature and possible cause of said event.
If you were to read the rest of the log you would see how that unfolds...but you know that, right?
Quote
[4:47:08 AM] Tristan D'Agosta: It is much more likely to cause market panic if the blockchain is considered unreliable
Quote
[4:00:11 AM] Tristan D'Agosta: Disabling trading is about as extreme as it gets. Why are we being asked to do this? Is it only to prevent the attacker from cashing out?
Quote
[4:02:25 AM] Tristan D'Agosta: We need to know why before we do that -- we may have a better way of addressing the issue
plenty more where that came from to show that none of the exchange reps present in that chat just did what Vitalik Leninowitsch Butlerin told them to do.
You have the heart in the right place but your wrecking ball method is fucking annoying and has been for a long time.
Anyway I have no time for off topic troll wars.
ON Topic: XMR to da moon!
EDIT: for what it's worth I fully agree with you that exchanges should never halt trading as long as there isn't some serious issue with the blockchain itself!
icebreaker I think it is very unsavory of you to present the events re: Poloniex and busoni's reaction out of context.
Here's the full chat log for people who might be interested in the complete picture:
http://pastebin.com/aMKwQcHR
trading was frozen for less than 2 minutes btw...
I trust in the capability of my esteemed Monero community to build their own opinion and not run around with pitchforks and torches screaming SCANDAL.
Here's the full chat log for people who might be interested in the complete picture:
http://pastebin.com/aMKwQcHR
trading was frozen for less than 2 minutes btw...
I trust in the capability of my esteemed Monero community to build their own opinion and not run around with pitchforks and torches screaming SCANDAL.
Fortunes were made and lost in those 2 minutes btw.
"It was only a tiny little bit of moral hazard and arbitrary winner/loser picking" isn't a convincing reason to put down the pitchforks.
I think is is very unsavory of Polo to halt trading FOR ANY AMOUNT OF TIME based on orders from "Helicopter" Buterin's Plunge Protection Team.
Your distracting, myopic focus on the duration of the halt (rather than its impact on traders and the fact it happened at all) betrays the fact you don't understand how smooth's Razor applies to this situation.
Only systems that are structurally incompatible with fraud don't suffer from the overhang of potential fraud.
Do you think my request for Polo to create/clarify/enforce predetermined rules and principles governing similar future situations (rather than just following orders made under VB's coercive rollback extortion) is reasonable?
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