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Topic: [XMR] Monero Speculation - page 1274. (Read 3314316 times)

sr. member
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June 17, 2016, 01:17:00 PM
If I didn't know better I would think coins are appearing from nowhere.

8600/day or so?


I'm aware how many are being created a day, I don't see your point with that comment. The consistent down pressure seems far higher long term than the emission and even if it was equal to the emission then I find it hard to believe all new coins are dumped. Every single time there is a breakout there is a dump, I just cannot figure out why anyone would want to intentionally suppress the price like that (especially if they have the coins to do it: it flies in the face of self interest) and I think it's fanciful to believe it's some other coins troll.

I cannot come to terms with somoneone/somegroup acquiring over time just for price suppression and I cannot think Of any logical reason except to slowly siphon from the cap unless they hold massive hoard which by now should have been absorbed. Unless you have a different theory?

BTW, I bolded the qualifier for you.

Yup, I was just thinking the very same thing these last few days. Whenever the market goes up even a few percent there's like a flood of sellers willing to market sell it back down. My only possible explanation to this is that whoever is accumulating (and has been since the last low around .0016) wants to dry all the supply at these levels before letting it go up. So basically they're buying all the coins up to their target and then they're selling into their own bids which are lower, forcing others to sell lower into the breakout, into their bids. So even though they're buying it up, they're trying to accumulate at the lowest possible price, as close as possible to the point from which they made the breakout.

What's crazy is that some traders are actually falling for this strategy and giving their coins away cheaply right before another breakout takes place and leaves them behind.
legendary
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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
June 17, 2016, 12:38:10 PM
If I didn't know better I would think coins are appearing from nowhere.

8600/day or so?


I'm aware how many are being created a day, I don't see your point with that comment. The consistent down pressure seems far higher long term than the emission and even if it was equal to the emission then I find it hard to believe all new coins are dumped. Every single time there is a breakout there is a dump, I just cannot figure out why anyone would want to intentionally suppress the price like that (especially if they have the coins to do it: it flies in the face of self interest) and I think it's fanciful to believe it's some other coins troll.

I cannot come to terms with somoneone/somegroup acquiring over time just for price suppression and I cannot think Of any logical reason except to slowly siphon from the cap unless they hold massive hoard which by now should have been absorbed. Unless you have a different theory?

BTW, I bolded the qualifier for you.

Last month this was not there anymore. That is what looked so different compared to last 6 months.

I'm not quit following what you mean by "this was not there anymore"?


DAO hacked, apparently using recursive calls to split (i.e. withdraw ETH). Interesting times ahead. Crypto never fails to disappoint.

Shit why didn't this happen 2 days ago when I could have shorted Eth. Sad

I would have much rather using margin to do that than cash out, but then again if something happens to polo because of this then I am protected as a side effect.

Anywhere safe to short it with usd?
legendary
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June 17, 2016, 12:34:26 PM
@Heuristic, my point was that coins are being created out of thin air. Obviously they aren't all dumped and the ones that are aren't the only coins being dumped, but the mining emissions adds a lot to the overall selling pressure.

There needs to be buyers wanting those new coins or it becomes a game of hot potato where a miner might hold on to some coins for a while then dump them on a speculator who is willing to hold them for a while but will also eventually dump them on a longer term investor (perhaps with more speculators in the middle of the chain). So that just means a lot of dumping from time to time unless you are in a high-demand situation where longer-term investors are very hungry to constantly accumulate coins.
legendary
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June 17, 2016, 12:21:43 PM
If I didn't know better I would think coins are appearing from nowhere.

8600/day or so?


I'm aware how many are being created a day, I don't see your point with that comment. The consistent down pressure seems far higher long term than the emission and even if it was equal to the emission then I find it hard to believe all new coins are dumped. Every single time there is a breakout there is a dump, I just cannot figure out why anyone would want to intentionally suppress the price like that (especially if they have the coins to do it: it flies in the face of self interest) and I think it's fanciful to believe it's some other coins troll.

I cannot come to terms with somoneone/somegroup acquiring over time just for price suppression and I cannot think Of any logical reason except to slowly siphon from the cap unless they hold massive hoard which by now should have been absorbed. Unless you have a different theory?

BTW, I bolded the qualifier for you.

Last month this was not there anymore. That is what looked so different compared to last 6 months.
legendary
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June 17, 2016, 12:18:32 PM
THIS IS IT! Ladies & Gentlemen, this is what we have been waiting for. I would like to congratulate all the monero holders. You've been mocked, insulted, made fun of. But you've held up, you've been brave. And today is hte moment this will start to pay off.

If you are out of XMR right now, this is at your own peril! There has never been a better moment to buy.

Go green candles GO

Those people who has not better things to do in their lives than mock, insult and made fun of others (regardless of being a bagholder of moreno or not), are childish and stupid.
It is easy to be brave when you are not invested too much into Moreno but enough to become wealthy if it will pay off some day.
legendary
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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
June 17, 2016, 11:59:46 AM
If I didn't know better I would think coins are appearing from nowhere.

8600/day or so?


I'm aware how many are being created a day, I don't see your point with that comment. The consistent down pressure seems far higher long term than the emission and even if it was equal to the emission then I find it hard to believe all new coins are dumped. Every single time there is a breakout there is a dump, I just cannot figure out why anyone would want to intentionally suppress the price like that (especially if they have the coins to do it: it flies in the face of self interest) and I think it's fanciful to believe it's some other coins troll.

I cannot come to terms with somoneone/somegroup acquiring over time just for price suppression and I cannot think Of any logical reason except to slowly siphon from the cap unless they hold massive hoard which by now should have been absorbed. Unless you have a different theory?

BTW, I bolded the qualifier for you.
sr. member
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June 17, 2016, 11:59:25 AM
I love the pump but unless monero really takes off (0.04-0.05) it won't survive Ethereum's ring signature mixers soon to be launched.....

Well, I guess Vitalik will have some other things on his mind from now on... I wholeheartedly hope you are fully invested in your ETH-utopia!

best regards,

legendary
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June 17, 2016, 11:39:00 AM
DAO hacked, apparently using recursive calls to split (i.e. withdraw ETH). Interesting times ahead. Crypto never fails to disappoint.

DASH, ETH, and DAO just got the wake-up call Monero received a year ago thanks to the Troll Block Attack.


That was almost two years ago.  Cheesy
sr. member
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bagholder since 2013
June 17, 2016, 09:50:19 AM
I wish there was a more reputable exchange for XMR to fuel this rally.
Polo has shown their true colors in this DAO fiasco, by delaying withdrawal confirmation emails.
legendary
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June 17, 2016, 09:14:32 AM
THIS IS IT! Ladies & Gentlemen, this is what we have been waiting for. I would like to congratulate all the monero holders. You've been mocked, insulted, made fun of. But you've held up, you've been brave. And today is hte moment this will start to pay off.

If you are out of XMR right now, this is at your own peril! There has never been a better moment to buy.

Go green candles GO

What?  Did they release the GUI?  Grin

Anyways I'm looking forward to continuing to hodl.

In other news; I will be off the grid for 3 days.  I'm sure everything will be fine when I return. Cool
full member
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June 17, 2016, 06:29:58 AM
THIS IS IT! Ladies & Gentlemen, this is what we have been waiting for. I would like to congratulate all the monero holders. You've been mocked, insulted, made fun of. But you've held up, you've been brave. And today is hte moment this will start to pay off.

If you are out of XMR right now, this is at your own peril! There has never been a better moment to buy.

Go green candles GO

Agreed.

This is the beginning of the beginning.



or maybe ...
hero member
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June 17, 2016, 05:57:52 AM
THIS IS IT! Ladies & Gentlemen, this is what we have been waiting for. I would like to congratulate all the monero holders. You've been mocked, insulted, made fun of. But you've held up, you've been brave. And today is hte moment this will start to pay off.

If you are out of XMR right now, this is at your own peril! There has never been a better moment to buy.

Go green candles GO

Agreed.

This is the beginning of the beginning.

legendary
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Flippin' burgers since 1163.
June 17, 2016, 05:38:17 AM
Poloniex is down again. Could it be because of:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4oi2ta/i_think_thedao_is_getting_drained_right_now/

... And back online. Seems like it is struggling with the peak in visitors.
full member
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June 17, 2016, 05:10:50 AM
Monero is best Digital Currency and will rule them all.  Tongue
sr. member
Activity: 283
Merit: 250
June 17, 2016, 05:10:07 AM
THIS IS IT! Ladies & Gentlemen, this is what we have been waiting for. I would like to congratulate all the monero holders. You've been mocked, insulted, made fun of. But you've held up, you've been brave. And today is hte moment this will start to pay off.

If you are out of XMR right now, this is at your own peril! There has never been a better moment to buy.

Go green candles GO
legendary
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Free spirit
June 17, 2016, 04:20:46 AM
Now moon please       Kiss
sr. member
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June 17, 2016, 04:09:59 AM
DAO hacked, apparently using recursive calls to split (i.e. withdraw ETH). Interesting times ahead. Crypto never fails to disappoint.

DASH, ETH, and DAO just got the wake-up call Monero received a year ago thanks to the Troll Block Attack.

It's time they realized you don't skimp on security just because you are very, very eager to chase some fun new shiny thingy.

This situation validates the XMR core devs' meticulous, careful approach.

I agree! XMR looking extra dependable  today!
legendary
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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
June 17, 2016, 04:03:48 AM
DAO hacked, apparently using recursive calls to split (i.e. withdraw ETH). Interesting times ahead. Crypto never fails to disappoint.

DASH, ETH, and DAO just got the wake-up call Monero received a year ago thanks to the Troll Block Attack.

It's time they realized you don't skimp on security just because you are very, very eager to chase some fun new shiny thingy.

This situation validates the XMR core devs' meticulous, careful approach.
hero member
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novag
June 17, 2016, 03:48:21 AM
In the wake of the drain maybe people will start to invest in a more secure Monero coin.
sr. member
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June 17, 2016, 03:46:39 AM
DAO hacked, apparently using recursive calls to split (i.e. withdraw ETH). Interesting times ahead. Crypto never fails to disappoint.
If the hack is as big as it seems revealing a core deficiency in the dao protocol, it could crash eth and investors may fall back to more traditionnal / sure cryptos such as XMR...
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