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Topic: [XMR] Monero Speculation - page 1277. (Read 3314316 times)

sr. member
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June 14, 2016, 02:38:13 PM
Will we break through?

sr. member
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June 14, 2016, 01:58:44 PM
I confirm. I longed today and then got shaken out at break even. Dayum that 10% profit Sad
legendary
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June 14, 2016, 01:07:47 PM
Looks like we had a double shake out, btc and xmr. Smiley

Very bullish!
legendary
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June 14, 2016, 12:47:23 PM
Monero is remarkably stable in terms of BTC price, not much selling occurring during BTC spikes. Seems very bullish.
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June 13, 2016, 09:20:27 PM
It blows me away when I think that no fiat actually enters the crypto economy.  
  
People simply trade away the fiat which they consider less valuable to get their hands on crypto.  The only thing entering the system is human belief and a new human who agrees in the rising value of crypto.

I've never really thought about it that way... And that just goes to prove that things are becoming more and more digitalized; so if that's the case, why not make a system that doesn't require human intervention/politics, using resources to print notes unnecessarily, and creating perpetual debt for citizens. Seems prefectural logical to me... But unfortunately people stick to what's "comfortable" and not "logical".

No TPTB use all means to resist change that may lower or remove their power. It has nothing to do with people sticking to whats comfortable.
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June 13, 2016, 07:10:04 PM
It blows me away when I think that no fiat actually enters the crypto economy.  
  
People simply trade away the fiat which they consider less valuable to get their hands on crypto.  The only thing entering the system is human belief and a new human who agrees in the rising value of crypto.

I've never really thought about it that way... And that just goes to prove that things are becoming more and more digitalized; so if that's the case, why not make a system that doesn't require human intervention/politics, using resources to print notes unnecessarily, and creating perpetual debt for citizens. Seems prefectural logical to me... But unfortunately people stick to what's "comfortable" and not "logical".
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June 13, 2016, 06:32:41 PM
It blows me away when I think that no fiat actually enters the crypto economy.  
  
People simply trade away the fiat which they consider less valuable to get their hands on crypto.  The only thing entering the system is human belief and a new human who agrees in the rising value of crypto.
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June 13, 2016, 06:07:50 PM
http://cointelegraph.com/news/27-days-to-halving-bitcoin-price-reaches-2-year-high-drags-ethereum-along

"A close monitoring of the Poloniex exchange platform shows that both digital currencies - as well as Monero, Litecoin and Ripple - are the main beneficiaries of the growing interest in the cryptocurrency market. Dash has a slight drop."



The market today is different from 2013; however we could see the scenario where certain crypto currencies behave as a leveraged play on Bitcoin, if Bitcoin enters a strong bull market.  It is possible that the Monero could be one of those crypto currencies. One would need as a minimum a clear break in the market capitalization from the 2013 high and even better a clear break in price over the 2013 high to call a true Bitcoin long term bull market.  If this scenario materializes again holding Monero could turn to be much better than holding Bitcoin during such a Bitcoin bull market.

Even though people might move money in and out of certain coins, you can't deny the fact that it looks like people sincerely want to keep their money in the crypto sphere and not revert back to fiat. It seems as time goes on, the higher amount of money is in the overall "crypto market cap" rather than going back down as Bitcoin prices start dropping.

Could be wrong though.. Huh
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June 13, 2016, 05:49:22 PM
http://cointelegraph.com/news/27-days-to-halving-bitcoin-price-reaches-2-year-high-drags-ethereum-along

"A close monitoring of the Poloniex exchange platform shows that both digital currencies - as well as Monero, Litecoin and Ripple - are the main beneficiaries of the growing interest in the cryptocurrency market. Dash has a slight drop."



The market today is different from 2013; however we could see the scenario where certain crypto currencies behave as a leveraged play on Bitcoin, if Bitcoin enters a strong bull market.  It is possible that the Monero could be one of those crypto currencies. One would need as a minimum a clear break in the market capitalization from the 2013 high and even better a clear break in price over the 2013 high to call a true Bitcoin long term bull market.  If this scenario materializes again holding Monero could turn to be much better than holding Bitcoin during such a Bitcoin bull market.
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June 13, 2016, 05:12:41 PM
http://cointelegraph.com/news/27-days-to-halving-bitcoin-price-reaches-2-year-high-drags-ethereum-along

"A close monitoring of the Poloniex exchange platform shows that both digital currencies - as well as Monero, Litecoin and Ripple - are the main beneficiaries of the growing interest in the cryptocurrency market. Dash has a slight drop."

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June 13, 2016, 12:04:34 PM

I had not heard about Jaxx-wallet yet. I just installed it. Very easy to use and looks great! I am waiting so much Monero to be added there too. Which one will be first? Monero core teams GUI or Monero in Jaxx?

There is in Jaxx wallet BTC, ETH and DAO already. Jaxx shows private keys only for BTC and ETH but not for DAO. That is because DAO is some kind of ETH system created coin and ETH key are keys for DAO too? I guess?

Jaxx is a light-wallet I guess because it does not need any synchronization?

Has anyone any experience of Jaxx? How safe is it? Had any problems?

Below the Jaxx Download link there is a string letters and numbers. It there for to check the file is the one, secure and real what it should be. How the check is made on Linux?
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June 13, 2016, 12:22:02 AM
Apparently Resistance is futile!
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June 12, 2016, 12:28:22 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmzuRXLzqKk

i ALMOST WANT TO SELL JUST SO i CAN CASH OUT btc. lOL

Whoever this was, thx for pointed it out. Tongue

Code:
2016-06-12 18:51:53	Sell	0.00187197	105.88461382	0.19821282
2016-06-12 18:48:15 Sell 0.00187173 1.51371110 0.00283325
2016-06-12 18:43:53 Sell 0.00187187 173.87268346 0.32546705
2016-06-12 18:40:19 Sell 0.00187164 173.89405013 0.32546705
2016-06-12 18:40:19 Sell 0.00187165 46.34865259 0.08674845

Cheesy

https://www.coingecko.com/en/price_charts/monero/usd/7_days
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June 11, 2016, 01:19:19 AM
Also, don't forget the bitcoin.com puff piece on Zcash that straight-up lied about not being affiliated with the project (Ver owns bitcoin.com!). Sorry, but he's run out of chances.

I vaguely remember this...do you have a link?

Seems shady that he would put up a statement in a piece about cash on his own website.

Then again this is the same guy who told people the mtgox was A-OK in 2013 just before it went bust.

https://news.bitcoin.com/meet-top-3-coins-cryptocurrency-anonymity-race/

It lists Zcash's investors but conveniently leaves Ver's name out. Then at the bottom of the article is a disclaimer that reads:

"Disclaimer: Bitcoin.com is not affiliated with any of the above-mentioned businesses."

It's even a little bit worse than that. The original Wired article they quoted included Ver's name but they took it out of the quote.

bitcoin.com:

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The publication Wired details that investors such as Naval Ravikant and the Digital Currency Group’s Barry Silbert have invested over $700,000 USD into the startup.

Wired:

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Those investors include Naval Ravikant, an investor in Twitter and Uber, Barry Silbert, the founder of startup equity-trading platform SecondMarket, and Roger Ver, a staunch libertarian who’s invested in bitcoin startups Blockchain.info and Bitpay, and who also bankrolled much of the legal defense of now-convicted Silk Road creator Ross Ulbricht



Wow so they consciously had removed his name before reposting that on his site.


Exactly. I'm on bad internet so I didn't post links but if you click through the bitcoin.com link above they link to the wired article. You can see the above in context. I don't think there is any reasonable conclusion other than that the writer explicitly decided to remove Ver's name or was told to.
legendary
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June 10, 2016, 10:59:49 PM
And as a side note i really don't understand all the bashing on the trollbox on polo. As soon as this went up the mood was that everyone should short Monero because its a manipulative pump, however Eth has been blatantly been pumped by whales now for weeks and everyone was all hyped up for that pump, i don't get it.  Huh

Trolls.

It's a common tactic by Dash propagandists to classify any Monero price rise as a mere pump - thus alluding to the idea that an organic price simply isn't possible for Monero because, of course, it is a smoke and mirrors operation.

Monero antagonism isn't new, but these particular tactics seemed to increase following Cryptsy's collapse - an event that led to a sudden influx of bagholding Dash immigrants into the Polo trollbox who had no experience of Monero's volume being dominant.

Having said all that, I don't think we've seen the XMR floor just yet (at least in terms of XMR/BTC). Once we're about one week clear post the BTC halving (~July 17th) we'll start to see proper harmonic market intent and a reconstitution of the base.


i want to hear the proof that they were Dash propagandist as you were implying. otherwise you owe teh real dash propagandist some apology.
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June 10, 2016, 10:27:26 PM
And as a side note i really don't understand all the bashing on the trollbox on polo. As soon as this went up the mood was that everyone should short Monero because its a manipulative pump, however Eth has been blatantly been pumped by whales now for weeks and everyone was all hyped up for that pump, i don't get it.  Huh

Trolls.

It's a common tactic by Dash propagandists to classify any Monero price rise as a mere pump - thus alluding to the idea that an organic price simply isn't possible for Monero because, of course, it is a smoke and mirrors operation.

Monero antagonism isn't new, but these particular tactics seemed to increase following Cryptsy's collapse - an event that led to a sudden influx of bagholding Dash immigrants into the Polo trollbox who had no experience of Monero's volume being dominant.

Having said all that, I don't think we've seen the XMR floor just yet (at least in terms of XMR/BTC). Once we're about one week clear post the BTC halving (~July 17th) we'll start to see proper harmonic market intent and a reconstitution of the base.

I actually held and still hold some XMR from before the price drop a few months ago. I also never said that an organic price isn't possible for monero, I just stated that the recent rise looked like the works of manipulation.
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June 10, 2016, 09:56:47 PM
And as a side note i really don't understand all the bashing on the trollbox on polo. As soon as this went up the mood was that everyone should short Monero because its a manipulative pump, however Eth has been blatantly been pumped by whales now for weeks and everyone was all hyped up for that pump, i don't get it.  Huh

Trolls.

It's a common tactic by Dash propagandists to classify any Monero price rise as a mere pump - thus alluding to the idea that an organic price simply isn't possible for Monero because, of course, it is a smoke and mirrors operation.

Monero antagonism isn't new, but these particular tactics seemed to increase following Cryptsy's collapse - an event that led to a sudden influx of bagholding Dash immigrants into the Polo trollbox who had no experience of Monero's volume being dominant.

Having said all that, I don't think we're quite there yet. Once we're about one week clear post the BTC halving (~July 17th) we'll start to see proper harmonic market intent and a reconstitution of the base.
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June 10, 2016, 03:19:35 PM


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