Topic: [XMR] Monero Speculation - page 1986. (Read 3313076 times)

Quote from: mrkavasaki on March 29, 2015, 05:58:57 PM

how can i create an monero papaerwallet, without download anything?

mymonero.com -> create new account -> login -> account -> account details

write down or print out Account Address (Public), View Key (Private), Spend Key (Private)

I just ran through it and tried it - very slick.

Am not as tech savvy as most and I'm on Mac. I don't feel at home on anything using a terminal window (much prefer a GUI type wallet) but this is helpful.

Means I don't keep too much on Polo, Bittrex etc.

Going to cold store a few - might as well, I am a long way off selling - been buying since day 1 on Polo.

Fwiw - I only have holdings in BTC, XMR and a few handfuls of XCP.

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Quote from: Anon136 on March 29, 2015, 08:36:40 PM

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For the sake of clarity. Can you simply log into mymonero using a 24 word seed that you generated with your simplewallet and get access to the same "account" (for lack of a better term) on mymonero that you were using on simplewallet?

I've been trying this with some accounts (4 exactly) and they are reporting zero balance... There definitely was moneros in them. Is anyone else able to succesfully import an account to mymonero with the seed?

EDIT: I have tried importing the transactions for an account as well, which is not succeeding. Sent 10 xmr as per the instructions twice over 2 days. Again, anyone having success with this?

(Sorry for the off-topic. It just seemed to be what people we're discussing here at the time.)

Man, at this point, just try importing them into your own client and rescanning the blockchain yourself. We will be here to help you with any problems you have. (though you may want to take that over to another thread, just drop me a link and ill come over)

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Quote from: GingerAle on March 29, 2015, 09:36:18 PM

Quote from: xmrnoob on March 29, 2015, 09:03:39 PM

What's all this about 24 words. It's 25 on my system.

yeah, new version is 25. Old is 24. Those instructions for the tinfoilhat paper wallet are old, but still apply - only difference is # of words. (or its the other way around - regardless, they are compatible - if you upgrade, you can tell it to spit out the seed and bam you get the correct one)

and yes, if you're making a fresh wallet in simplewallet, you can open it on mymonero.com by using the 25 words

The one extra word was added as a checksum to guard against typos, etc.

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Quote from: xmrnoob on March 29, 2015, 09:03:39 PM

What's all this about 24 words. It's 25 on my system.

yeah, new version is 25. Old is 24. Those instructions for the tinfoilhat paper wallet are old, but still apply - only difference is # of words. (or its the other way around - regardless, they are compatible - if you upgrade, you can tell it to spit out the seed and bam you get the correct one)

and yes, if you're making a fresh wallet in simplewallet, you can open it on mymonero.com by using the 25 words

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What's all this about 24 words. It's 25 on my system.

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Quote from: Anon136 on March 29, 2015, 08:36:40 PM

Quote from: smooth on March 29, 2015, 08:24:55 PM

Quote from: Anon136 on March 29, 2015, 08:22:58 PM

Quote from: smooth on March 29, 2015, 08:24:55 PM

How do you extract the private keys from a wallet (for importing into mymonero) on a PC that doesn't have the blockchain and client running? Are the keys inside the wallet easy to export? I haven't run monero on my PC for many months.

edit: would this be safe to do, export keys from simplewallet, import into mymonero

1. You don't need the blockchain to run simplewallet.

2. It is safe to import keys from simplewallet to mymonero if you trust mymonero to be safe.

Another possibility is to use simplewallet (or any of the GUI wallets) with a remote node. In that case you have some trust requirement on the remote node to give you accurate blockchain information and not log/disclose your transactions, but the remote node still can't steal your coins.

But what is the actual rpc command to get those keys from simplewallet? I don't see one looking at the list of rpc commands near the top of the source code for simplewallet.cpp.

There is no RPC to retrieve the keys and that would be exceptionally dangerous given how easy it is to accidentally leave a port open.

You are correct that mnemonic is the better/easier way to approach importing.

For the sake of clarity. Can you simply log into mymonero using a 24 word seed that you generated with your simplewallet and get access to the same "account" (for lack of a better term) on mymonero that you were using on simplewallet?

There is an import function. I haven't carefully reviewed it but I believe if you want your old transactions included you have to pay 10 XMR for a blockchain scan but if you want to just use it from that point forward there is no charge.

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Quote from: Anon136 on March 29, 2015, 08:22:58 PM

Quote from: Anon136 on March 29, 2015, 08:22:58 PM

How do you extract the private keys from a wallet (for importing into mymonero) on a PC that doesn't have the blockchain and client running? Are the keys inside the wallet easy to export? I haven't run monero on my PC for many months.

edit: would this be safe to do, export keys from simplewallet, import into mymonero

1. You don't need the blockchain to run simplewallet.

2. It is safe to import keys from simplewallet to mymonero if you trust mymonero to be safe.

Another possibility is to use simplewallet (or any of the GUI wallets) with a remote node. In that case you have some trust requirement on the remote node to give you accurate blockchain information and not log/disclose your transactions, but the remote node still can't steal your coins.

But what is the actual rpc command to get those keys from simplewallet? I don't see one looking at the list of rpc commands near the top of the source code for simplewallet.cpp.

There is no RPC to retrieve the keys and that would be exceptionally dangerous given how easy it is to accidentally leave a port open.

You are correct that mnemonic is the better/easier way to approach importing.

For the sake of clarity. Can you simply log into mymonero using a 24 word seed that you generated with your simplewallet and get access to the same "account" (for lack of a better term) on mymonero that you were using on simplewallet?

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How do you extract the private keys from a wallet (for importing into mymonero) on a PC that doesn't have the blockchain and client running? Are the keys inside the wallet easy to export? I haven't run monero on my PC for many months.

edit: would this be safe to do, export keys from simplewallet, import into mymonero

1. You don't need the blockchain to run simplewallet.

2. It is safe to import keys from simplewallet to mymonero if you trust mymonero to be safe.

Another possibility is to use simplewallet (or any of the GUI wallets) with a remote node. In that case you have some trust requirement on the remote node to give you accurate blockchain information and not log/disclose your transactions, but the remote node still can't steal your coins.

But what is the actual rpc command to get those keys from simplewallet? I don't see one looking at the list of rpc commands near the top of the source code for simplewallet.cpp.

There is no RPC to retrieve the keys and that would be exceptionally dangerous given how easy it is to accidentally leave a port open.

You are correct that mnemonic is the better/easier way to approach importing.

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How do you extract the private keys from a wallet (for importing into mymonero) on a PC that doesn't have the blockchain and client running? Are the keys inside the wallet easy to export? I haven't run monero on my PC for many months.

edit: would this be safe to do, export keys from simplewallet, import into mymonero

1. You don't need the blockchain to run simplewallet.

2. It is safe to import keys from simplewallet to mymonero if you trust mymonero to be safe.

Another possibility is to use simplewallet (or any of the GUI wallets) with a remote node. In that case you have some trust requirement on the remote node to give you accurate blockchain information and not log/disclose your transactions, but the remote node still can't steal your coins.

But what is the actual rpc command to get those keys from simplewallet? I don't see one looking at the list of rpc commands near the top of the source code for simplewallet.cpp.

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Quote from: Anon136 on March 29, 2015, 06:38:45 PM

Quote from: mrkavasaki on March 29, 2015, 06:30:14 PM

Quote from: mrkavasaki on March 29, 2015, 05:58:57 PM

how can i create an monero papaerwallet, without download anything?

mymonero.com -> create new account -> login -> account -> account details

write down or print out Account Address (Public), View Key (Private), Spend Key (Private)

and here is a qr code website that works offline (just tested it myself) so you can save the page and use it to make some qr codes for those numbers http://www.qr-code-generator.com/

ok thanks, but this is just an onlinewallet right?

Yeah it is. But as far as i know thats the only way to do it without downloading anything. If you are ok with downloading just a very small file, grab the binaries from here https://getmonero.org/downloads/ all you need to run is simplewallet. You don't need to even run the daemon. You can use steps 6-10 from the link gingerale posted.

6. Don't run the Monero daemon. Instead, using the command line, use simplewallet to create a new wallet.
7. When prompted for a name, give it any name, it doesn't really matter.
8. When prompted for a password, type in like 50 - 100 random characters. Don't worry that you don't know the password, just make it LONG.
9. Write down (on paper) your 24 word mnemonic seed.
10. Write down (on your phone, on paper, on another computer, wherever you want) your address and view key.

Sorry there is no https://www.bitaddress.org analogue. I know that's what you are looking for. Hope we were able to be of some help.

How do you extract the private keys from a wallet (for importing into mymonero) on a PC that doesn't have the blockchain and client running? Are the keys inside the wallet easy to export? I haven't run monero on my PC for many months.

edit: would this be safe to do, export keys from simplewallet, import into mymonero

Looking at some resources after your question, I don't think you can really "extract" your private keys because they are not stored anywhere. They are deterministically derived in real time from your seed which is the 24 word mnemonic. In a sense, the 24 word mnemonic is actually what you are looking for i think. Now there was an old scheme where they were stored in a database. The remnants of this can be found in the rpc commands. You can start the wallet with the argument non-deterministic. You may be able to generate a single use key pair that way but I'm not sure.

I would mess around with it except im not on my linux box at the moment. I think you may just be able to just log into mymonero with your 24 word mnemonic and then pay the 10xmr fee for their server to /rescan the whole blockchain (not something that i can blame them for, thats very processor intensive with monero, much more so than bitcoin).

Anyway sorry i cant be of more help. Worst case is if you cant import it into mymonero you can always import it to simplewallet in the future.

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Quote from: Anon136 on March 29, 2015, 06:38:45 PM

How do you extract the private keys from a wallet (for importing into mymonero) on a PC that doesn't have the blockchain and client running? Are the keys inside the wallet easy to export? I haven't run monero on my PC for many months.

edit: would this be safe to do, export keys from simplewallet, import into mymonero

1. You don't need the blockchain to run simplewallet.

2. It is safe to import keys from simplewallet to mymonero if you trust mymonero to be safe.

Another possibility is to use simplewallet (or any of the GUI wallets) with a remote node. In that case you have some trust requirement on the remote node to give you accurate blockchain information and not log/disclose your transactions, but the remote node still can't steal your coins.

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Quote from: mrkavasaki on March 29, 2015, 06:30:14 PM

Quote from: mrkavasaki on March 29, 2015, 05:58:57 PM

how can i create an monero papaerwallet, without download anything?

mymonero.com -> create new account -> login -> account -> account details

write down or print out Account Address (Public), View Key (Private), Spend Key (Private)

and here is a qr code website that works offline (just tested it myself) so you can save the page and use it to make some qr codes for those numbers http://www.qr-code-generator.com/

ok thanks, but this is just an onlinewallet right?

Yeah it is. But as far as i know thats the only way to do it without downloading anything. If you are ok with downloading just a very small file, grab the binaries from here https://getmonero.org/downloads/ all you need to run is simplewallet. You don't need to even run the daemon. You can use steps 6-10 from the link gingerale posted.

6. Don't run the Monero daemon. Instead, using the command line, use simplewallet to create a new wallet.
7. When prompted for a name, give it any name, it doesn't really matter.
8. When prompted for a password, type in like 50 - 100 random characters. Don't worry that you don't know the password, just make it LONG.
9. Write down (on paper) your 24 word mnemonic seed.
10. Write down (on your phone, on paper, on another computer, wherever you want) your address and view key.

Sorry there is no https://www.bitaddress.org analogue. I know that's what you are looking for. Hope we were able to be of some help.

How do you extract the private keys from a wallet (for importing into mymonero) on a PC that doesn't have the blockchain and client running? Are the keys inside the wallet easy to export? I haven't run monero on my PC for many months.

edit: would this be safe to do, export keys from simplewallet, import into mymonero

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Quote from: mrkavasaki on March 29, 2015, 06:30:14 PM

Quote from: mrkavasaki on March 29, 2015, 05:58:57 PM

how can i create an monero papaerwallet, without download anything?

mymonero.com -> create new account -> login -> account -> account details

write down or print out Account Address (Public), View Key (Private), Spend Key (Private)

and here is a qr code website that works offline (just tested it myself) so you can save the page and use it to make some qr codes for those numbers http://www.qr-code-generator.com/

ok thanks, but this is just an onlinewallet right?

Yeah it is. But as far as i know thats the only way to do it without downloading anything. If you are ok with downloading just a very small file, grab the binaries from here https://getmonero.org/downloads/ all you need to run is simplewallet. You don't need to even run the daemon. You can use steps 6-10 from the link gingerale posted.

6. Don't run the Monero daemon. Instead, using the command line, use simplewallet to create a new wallet.
7. When prompted for a name, give it any name, it doesn't really matter.
8. When prompted for a password, type in like 50 - 100 random characters. Don't worry that you don't know the password, just make it LONG.
9. Write down (on paper) your 24 word mnemonic seed.
10. Write down (on your phone, on paper, on another computer, wherever you want) your address and view key.

Sorry there is no https://www.bitaddress.org analogue. I know that's what you are looking for. Hope we were able to be of some help.

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Quote from: mrkavasaki on March 29, 2015, 05:58:57 PM

how can i create an monero papaerwallet, without download anything?

mymonero.com -> create new account -> login -> account -> account details

write down or print out Account Address (Public), View Key (Private), Spend Key (Private)

and here is a qr code website that works offline (just tested it myself) so you can save the page and use it to make some qr codes for those numbers http://www.qr-code-generator.com/

ok thanks, but this is just an onlinewallet right?

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