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legendary
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March 16, 2015, 08:24:56 AM
XMR is about to pass NMC's market cap. Passing PPC is also possible in the near-term. It should raise some eyebrows and increase XMR's visibility.

Agree. We're already solidly in top 10 status when the tokens are removed, and as such we have started to get more noticed in a variety of places. Passing one or both of those old-school altcoins would bring even more visibility.

EDIT: we're above NMC right now!

legendary
Activity: 1762
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March 16, 2015, 06:51:31 AM
"I value my virginity. But I'm not anal about it.." See how that works?

There's definitely a joke in there about anal, and the concept of maintaining one's virginity by way of it. Smiley
legendary
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March 16, 2015, 06:47:57 AM
I have to say that I really don't, and I think the vast majority (or at least a good number of ordinary folks) of the world doesn't. More important things to care about.

It is actually pretty clear you are correct, if you look at how the whole commercial and government spying industry has developed. It's not the case that people aren't aware of it, but most really and truly don't care.


I think people care, its just that they feel powerless to stop it. Kind of like "yeah, but what are yah gonna do?" I guess the answer would be to use cash for everything, but for some people they don't feel safe or for whatever reason there's a combination of things that outweighs the lack of privacy.

What if inflation exists to dissuade people from just putting cash under their mattresses... so the government can better track their spending? Smiley

hero member
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21 million. I want them all.
March 16, 2015, 06:46:04 AM
XMR is about to pass NMC's market cap. Passing PPC is also possible in the near-term. It should raise some eyebrows and increase XMR's visibility.
legendary
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March 16, 2015, 06:41:19 AM
Second, having more uses brings more people, liquidity, decentralization, and hash rate. All are good, directly or indirectly, for Monero's security and usefulness.

I think this is pretty important, and we've discussed several times since the start of Monero. If the only thing you can do with Monero is illicit trade, then sellers will just dump it as soon as they get it, in exchange for something they can actually spend. No willingness to hold means no store of value at all. For people to hold money they have to be able to use it for unknown future purchase needs, and that requires wide acceptability and use. You can't live on drugs alone.

With things like xmr.to making it easy to transact in bitcoins by way of moneroj, you might still want to hold the XMR for the purpose of maintaining your future anonymity needs. Of course, there are other concerns that would likely come into play in this sort of calculus, like the expected future price volatility of Bitcoin vs. Monero.


I am not saying that I'd want to make my transactions public. Rather, there isn't enough incentive to switch to monero JUST because you can keep such trivial transactions private. It's not a big enough motivation for most people.

I'm with you on this. Hopefully, as Monero's development matures/progresses, so will the incentives to switch to it.
legendary
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March 16, 2015, 06:40:56 AM
This is the latest scare. Pulling people over and if you have too much cash without an explanation they like they seize it.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/21/us/asset-seizures/

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In the case of the two poker players in Iowa, months after their money was taken, they reached a settlement in which most of the money —$90,000 — was returned. They told CNN they believed it was the best deal they could have made at the time. Now, however, they are suing to get the rest of the money back and have asked for unspecified damages. The state of Iowa isn't giving it back and is not backing down.

This is the classic mistake: To settle for getting 90% of the money back. Now they are suing after the settlement. The question becomes are their chances of success more or less now?  
Edit: These guys are poker players yet they do not seem to understand the concept of bluffing. My bet is with the state on this one.

Let's assume they are professional poker players. That being the case the $100K was probably essential to their livelihood. If you are a baker and your bakery is seized, you don't really have the luxury of waiting ages for the case to play out in court to see if you might get it back.


They were pro players - they are also not the only poker players I know who have had this happen to them. I can think of 5 off the top of my head in the last 12 months all very similar stories.

It seems just a little bit too coincidental to me.

They took the settlement because 90% today is better than 100% in 2 years time. This stuff happens more often than hits the headlines.

What I meant was that it's a bit too coincidental that poker-players in particular are being targeted. It almost looks systematic. Figure out who's a relatively successful poker-player and so forth..

They will stop anybody and everybody.  They need no cause to seize cash or property.  Guilty till proven innocent.  It's been going on for years and is getting more prevalent as time goes on because it is a successful means of raising funds for local police and towns.

This is the US we are talking about.
sr. member
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March 16, 2015, 05:37:57 AM
 Cheesy It's looking to be a great day!

- Monero rally is continuing. 0.003 seems like a reasonable target for the short time.
- Bitcoin is looking to make another stab at 300, with some of the resistance cleared last week this might be the attempt which proves succesful.

Maybe a good news catalyst to give the final push; I'm thinking LMDB for xmr and Gemini for btc.
 
Grin

EDIT:
Asks in xmr are drying up a little, 185k total (~70K =< 0.004). This is pretty low compared to the averages last couple of months...
hero member
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21 million. I want them all.
March 16, 2015, 05:17:12 AM
This is the latest scare. Pulling people over and if you have too much cash without an explanation they like they seize it.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/21/us/asset-seizures/

Quote
In the case of the two poker players in Iowa, months after their money was taken, they reached a settlement in which most of the money —$90,000 — was returned. They told CNN they believed it was the best deal they could have made at the time. Now, however, they are suing to get the rest of the money back and have asked for unspecified damages. The state of Iowa isn't giving it back and is not backing down.

This is the classic mistake: To settle for getting 90% of the money back. Now they are suing after the settlement. The question becomes are their chances of success more or less now?  
Edit: These guys are poker players yet they do not seem to understand the concept of bluffing. My bet is with the state on this one.

Let's assume they are professional poker players. That being the case the $100K was probably essential to their livelihood. If you are a baker and your bakery is seized, you don't really have the luxury of waiting ages for the case to play out in court to see if you might get it back.


They were pro players - they are also not the only poker players I know who have had this happen to them. I can think of 5 off the top of my head in the last 12 months all very similar stories.

It seems just a little bit too coincidental to me.

Police are not above targeting petty drug dealers and pimps to "raise money" for their local bureau. When there's a big cash poker game in town, I'd bet that enterprising police officers specifically wait outside the games and pull those players over. Should've used bitcoin.
full member
Activity: 231
Merit: 100
March 16, 2015, 05:03:59 AM
This is the latest scare. Pulling people over and if you have too much cash without an explanation they like they seize it.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/21/us/asset-seizures/

Quote
In the case of the two poker players in Iowa, months after their money was taken, they reached a settlement in which most of the money —$90,000 — was returned. They told CNN they believed it was the best deal they could have made at the time. Now, however, they are suing to get the rest of the money back and have asked for unspecified damages. The state of Iowa isn't giving it back and is not backing down.

This is the classic mistake: To settle for getting 90% of the money back. Now they are suing after the settlement. The question becomes are their chances of success more or less now?  
Edit: These guys are poker players yet they do not seem to understand the concept of bluffing. My bet is with the state on this one.

Let's assume they are professional poker players. That being the case the $100K was probably essential to their livelihood. If you are a baker and your bakery is seized, you don't really have the luxury of waiting ages for the case to play out in court to see if you might get it back.


They were pro players - they are also not the only poker players I know who have had this happen to them. I can think of 5 off the top of my head in the last 12 months all very similar stories.

It seems just a little bit too coincidental to me.

They took the settlement because 90% today is better than 100% in 2 years time. This stuff happens more often than hits the headlines.

What I meant was that it's a bit too coincidental that poker-players in particular are being targeted. It almost looks systematic. Figure out who's a relatively successful poker-player and so forth..
legendary
Activity: 1092
Merit: 1000
March 16, 2015, 04:49:48 AM
I have put my trading stack outside of the exchange so they are unfortunately unavailable for people for some time. If you want me to sell some goodies, please pay some paper money from them. Otherwise I am not interested in selling.  Roll Eyes
sr. member
Activity: 473
Merit: 250
March 16, 2015, 04:48:57 AM
This is the latest scare. Pulling people over and if you have too much cash without an explanation they like they seize it.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/21/us/asset-seizures/

Quote
In the case of the two poker players in Iowa, months after their money was taken, they reached a settlement in which most of the money —$90,000 — was returned. They told CNN they believed it was the best deal they could have made at the time. Now, however, they are suing to get the rest of the money back and have asked for unspecified damages. The state of Iowa isn't giving it back and is not backing down.

This is the classic mistake: To settle for getting 90% of the money back. Now they are suing after the settlement. The question becomes are their chances of success more or less now?  
Edit: These guys are poker players yet they do not seem to understand the concept of bluffing. My bet is with the state on this one.

Let's assume they are professional poker players. That being the case the $100K was probably essential to their livelihood. If you are a baker and your bakery is seized, you don't really have the luxury of waiting ages for the case to play out in court to see if you might get it back.


They were pro players - they are also not the only poker players I know who have had this happen to them. I can think of 5 off the top of my head in the last 12 months all very similar stories.

It seems just a little bit too coincidental to me.

They took the settlement because 90% today is better than 100% in 2 years time. This stuff happens more often than hits the headlines.
full member
Activity: 231
Merit: 100
March 16, 2015, 04:12:33 AM
This is the latest scare. Pulling people over and if you have too much cash without an explanation they like they seize it.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/21/us/asset-seizures/

Quote
In the case of the two poker players in Iowa, months after their money was taken, they reached a settlement in which most of the money —$90,000 — was returned. They told CNN they believed it was the best deal they could have made at the time. Now, however, they are suing to get the rest of the money back and have asked for unspecified damages. The state of Iowa isn't giving it back and is not backing down.

This is the classic mistake: To settle for getting 90% of the money back. Now they are suing after the settlement. The question becomes are their chances of success more or less now?  
Edit: These guys are poker players yet they do not seem to understand the concept of bluffing. My bet is with the state on this one.

Let's assume they are professional poker players. That being the case the $100K was probably essential to their livelihood. If you are a baker and your bakery is seized, you don't really have the luxury of waiting ages for the case to play out in court to see if you might get it back.


They were pro players - they are also not the only poker players I know who have had this happen to them. I can think of 5 off the top of my head in the last 12 months all very similar stories.

It seems just a little bit too coincidental to me.
sr. member
Activity: 473
Merit: 250
March 16, 2015, 03:42:49 AM
This is the latest scare. Pulling people over and if you have too much cash without an explanation they like they seize it.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/21/us/asset-seizures/

Quote
In the case of the two poker players in Iowa, months after their money was taken, they reached a settlement in which most of the money —$90,000 — was returned. They told CNN they believed it was the best deal they could have made at the time. Now, however, they are suing to get the rest of the money back and have asked for unspecified damages. The state of Iowa isn't giving it back and is not backing down.

This is the classic mistake: To settle for getting 90% of the money back. Now they are suing after the settlement. The question becomes are their chances of success more or less now?  
Edit: These guys are poker players yet they do not seem to understand the concept of bluffing. My bet is with the state on this one.

Let's assume they are professional poker players. That being the case the $100K was probably essential to their livelihood. If you are a baker and your bakery is seized, you don't really have the luxury of waiting ages for the case to play out in court to see if you might get it back.


They were pro players - they are also not the only poker players I know who have had this happen to them. I can think of 5 off the top of my head in the last 12 months all very similar stories.
legendary
Activity: 1092
Merit: 1000
March 16, 2015, 01:46:46 AM
yeah I'm waiting for the news too before dumping

I guess the buyers are appreciating the dumpers highly these days.  Grin
sr. member
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Merit: 250
March 16, 2015, 01:39:57 AM
yeah I'm waiting for the news too before dumping
hero member
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Merit: 514
March 16, 2015, 01:33:55 AM
The market is crazy right now. 2k coins back to 0.0024 and someone is still market buying everything up to 0.0029. That's an insane spread.

a few hours ago we had a 100btc buy wall... maybe he got a little impatient Wink

Yeah course, very very weird price action though. Reeks of insider trading if there happens to be a big announcement around the corner.

Could simply be anticipation for Monday's news (because it's always on a Monday).
legendary
Activity: 1092
Merit: 1000
March 16, 2015, 01:16:35 AM
About 20 % more rise and I am on water (bitcoinwise - not fiat).  Grin
No plans to sell Moneros though since there is a lot of development to be done so it is not a right moment to sell. When everything is basically ready it is time to sell. Until then, it is time for accumulation/holding only.

Have you thought the scenario of someone serious to corner Monero stake? What do you think to the price? Is there enough digits?  Shocked
hero member
Activity: 798
Merit: 1000
March 15, 2015, 11:41:06 PM
The market is crazy right now. 2k coins back to 0.0024 and someone is still market buying everything up to 0.0029. That's an insane spread.

a few hours ago we had a 100btc buy wall... maybe he got a little impatient Wink

Yeah course, very very weird price action though. Reeks of insider trading if there happens to be a big announcement around the corner.
sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 251
March 15, 2015, 11:39:19 PM
The market is crazy right now. 2k coins back to 0.0024 and someone is still market buying everything up to 0.0029. That's an insane spread.

a few hours ago we had a 100btc buy wall... maybe he got a little impatient Wink
hero member
Activity: 798
Merit: 1000
March 15, 2015, 11:36:00 PM
The market is crazy right now. 2k coins back to 0.0024 and someone is still market buying everything up to 0.0029. That's an insane spread.
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