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rikkejohn
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Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation
August 31, 2014, 05:25:01 PM
#265
Quote from: Skinnkavaj on August 31, 2014, 04:54:17 PM
You know that XMR is doing great when

... It holds up during BTC crashes
... It gets bought up as quickly as condoms do in Thailand
... It gets mentioned in Bitcoin bullbear report
... It have no unofficial official GUI
... It passes USD all time high marked cap again
... It is destined to be used for Open Bazaar



Well all of those points are kind of lame.

... many coins hold up during BTC crashes, especially if sponsored by Polonix et al
... It doesn't ... and the sideways trading suggests Feathercoin tactics
... Okay, well .... erm
... It does, I made one on my Commodore 64
... Feathercoin again
... haha
Skinnkavaj
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Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation
August 31, 2014, 04:54:17 PM
#264
You know that XMR is doing great when

... Unavailing the truth about... threads appear
... It holds up during BTC crashes
... It gets bought up as quickly as condoms do in Thailand
... It gets mentioned in Bitcoin bullbear report
... It have no unofficial official GUI
... It passes USD all time high marked cap again
... It is destined to be used for Open Bazaar

rikkejohn
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Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation
August 31, 2014, 03:46:07 PM
#263
Price dropping, even with BTC dropping.

But still a lot of trade, sideways and down.

That market cap is the thing that matters .. apparently.
Skinnkavaj
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Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation
August 31, 2014, 01:43:11 PM
#262
USD marketcap hitting ATH tomorrow most likely.
David Latapie
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Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation
August 31, 2014, 07:21:04 AM
#261
Quote from: ?? on ??
Quote from: David Latapie on August 31, 2014, 05:03:21 AM
("fiat pays the bill, BTC buys XMR, XMR paves the future")

lol well said, thats some good elevator speech
Caught at my own game! Good catch.
https://pay.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/2e4w03/moneros_elevators_speech/ck5d7wr
Amph
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Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation
August 31, 2014, 05:26:57 AM
#260
Quote from: JohnD on August 30, 2014, 05:45:30 AM
Quote from: pandacoin on August 30, 2014, 05:41:53 AM
Quote from: ?? on ??
XMR is above DRK again.

XMR will be above everything. We are so close to 5 mBTC.

XMR > BTC in 2015 !!!  Grin

only because of the recent btc dump? keeps dreaming, who think that btc is dying make me rotfl so hard
David Latapie
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Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation
August 31, 2014, 05:03:21 AM
#259
Quote from: ArticMine on August 30, 2014, 05:57:13 PM
Most people consider Monero because of privacy, but one must not ignore adaptive limits as a feature in Monero.  Adaptive limits on its own can be a game changer, since Bitcoin will have to hard fork in order to remain number 1.
Completely true. I keep saying to people that the adaptative limit is the hidden gem. Ring signature is easier to market, but the real power for me is adaptative limit (much like "money" is easier to market than "blockchain", even though the true power lies in the latter, not the former).

Quote from: iCEBREAKER on August 30, 2014, 07:31:06 PM
IMO, Gresham's Law requires XMR to be held in exponentially increasing (proportional to network effect utility growth) preference to BTC, just as BTC is held in exponentially increasing preference to fiat trash cash.
I'm already 75% in XMR (compared to BTC) and 60% in crypto (compared to fiat), so it seems I am on the righ track, especially considering I do not plan to have much more fiat ("fiat pays the bill, BTC buys XMR, XMR paves the future")
iCEBREAKER
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Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation
August 30, 2014, 07:31:06 PM
#258
Quote from: luigi1111 on August 30, 2014, 07:23:53 PM
Quote from: iCEBREAKER on August 30, 2014, 06:56:50 PM
Quote from: 3x2 on August 30, 2014, 06:28:02 AM
Quote from: JohnD on August 30, 2014, 05:45:30 AM
XMR > BTC in 2015 !!!  Grin

Not possible  Shocked

It's possible, but I am much more conservative in my speculation:

XMR > BTC in 2015 2017!!!  Grin

If we make it XMR > [BTC today ~$500], then 2017 sounds nice. If we're talking about XMR/BTC rate, I doubt that'll be happening that soon. Smiley

I'll gladly take that bet, my good Sir.

IMO, Gresham's Law requires XMR to be held in exponentially increasing (proportional to network effect utility growth) preference to BTC, just as BTC is held in exponentially increasing preference to fiat trash cash.
luigi1111
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Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation
August 30, 2014, 07:23:53 PM
#257
Quote from: iCEBREAKER on August 30, 2014, 06:56:50 PM
Quote from: 3x2 on August 30, 2014, 06:28:02 AM
Quote from: JohnD on August 30, 2014, 05:45:30 AM
XMR > BTC in 2015 !!!  Grin

Not possible  Shocked

It's possible, but I am much more conservative in my speculation:

XMR > BTC in 2015 2017!!!  Grin

If we make it XMR > [BTC today ~$500], then 2017 sounds nice. If we're talking about XMR/BTC rate, I doubt that'll be happening that soon. Smiley
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Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation
August 30, 2014, 06:56:50 PM
#256
Quote from: 3x2 on August 30, 2014, 06:28:02 AM
Quote from: JohnD on August 30, 2014, 05:45:30 AM
XMR > BTC in 2015 !!!  Grin

Not possible  Shocked

It's possible, but I am much more conservative in my speculation:

XMR > BTC in 2015 2017!!!  Grin
luigi1111
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Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation
August 30, 2014, 06:50:33 PM
#255
Quote from: Febo on August 30, 2014, 05:13:11 AM
Quote from: luigi1111 on August 29, 2014, 05:23:38 PM
Quote from: Febo on August 29, 2014, 05:20:59 PM
Is simple as this, if 50% of XMR would be minted in first month, few people would buy them and hold and price would go x10 or x100 in few months and not many people would got into coin at all, community would be weak. And some other coin would take XMR spot. As it is is perfect since will keep coin at low price for longer period of time + noone got coins super cheap. What you think is better is at quite some other coins, so i think is better you chose those.

This is kinda nonsense, as you are pretty apparently comparing to DRK (at 50% of current supply, which isn't even true anymore), but their community (of which I am a part as well) is quite big and active. They have the longest thread in the entire altcoin section. The other part of it is, absolutely some people got XMR at super cheap prices. I was one of them.

You are spot on about fast emission keeping price relatively low for early adopters/accumulators.

I did not meant any particular coin. You said that emission curve of Monero is bad and would be better if would be more mined at early start. I told you there are 100 of such coins already. And i told you that is really bad for the coin.


Emission curve of Moreno is perfect. Today 4 months after start, daily gets mined almost same amount of coins as on first day. Is perfect as it is.


Super cheap Moneros would be bought at 0.00001BTC or mined at that cost. Or even cheaper. Coins with emission curve as you said you want to have for Moreno have such cases.

Not many Moneros were traded under 0.001 BTC. Compared to whole trade volume of past 4 months are not worth of mentioning.


And About DRK and its community.
I dont know really DRK emission curve, I dont know how strong community is. I dont know when was coin launched. But if emission curve is as you wanted for Monero, then at time when Monero will be as old as is DRK right now, Monero community will be way stronger and compact then DRK community is now.

I don't think I said that at all. I said it rewards early adopters, but it then becomes opinion on what's good/bad. I didn't give one.
ArticMine
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Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation
August 30, 2014, 05:57:13 PM
#254
Quote from: Lauda on August 30, 2014, 10:51:10 AM
Quote from: ?? on ??
Quote from: 3x2 on August 30, 2014, 06:28:02 AM
Quote from: JohnD on August 30, 2014, 05:45:30 AM
XMR > BTC in 2015 !!!  Grin
Not possible  Shocked
18m XMR vs 21m BTC, its possible but highly improbable that soon.
Well this is just nonsense. Once the next spike happens everything (well most) will go to new heights.
Bitcoin will be really far away from the 2nd coin once it happens. It's one thing to be optimistic in regards to Monero, it's another thing to have unrealistic beliefs.
The price of Monero seems nice today though.

Under normal circumstances I would agree with you; however if Bitcoin chokes over the 1 MB blocksize limit during the next boom, it is quite possible. Most people consider Monero because of privacy, but one must not ignore adaptive limits as a feature in Monero.  Adaptive limits on its own can be a game changer, since Bitcoin will have to hard fork in order to remain number 1.
saddambitcoin
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Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation
August 30, 2014, 11:20:20 AM
#253
Quote from: Hueristic on August 30, 2014, 10:24:44 AM
Quote from: mr_random on August 29, 2014, 03:27:44 PM
Is there a rich list for XMR?

I obtained about 40k back when this coin was still young, I'm curious if that makes me an XMR whale or a small fish.

Does anyone see this coin going back to 60+ price?

You may want to consider adding to bounties to increase your holding value. This coin has a ton more potential that seems to be held back only by lack of funding.

BTW I hold zero ATM but have been watching (wish I had found this coin earlier).

I think anything over 10k could be considered a whale.

Also, I think a generous donation to the XMR devs is the best way of accelerating progress. They are taking time to make sure quality work is being done.

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Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation
August 30, 2014, 11:05:56 AM
#252
Quote from: ?? on ??
price still less than 50% of ATH, not late to join Wink

Same applies for Bitcoin. It's not late to join both coins.
Lauda
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Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation
August 30, 2014, 10:51:10 AM
#251
Quote from: ?? on ??
Quote from: 3x2 on August 30, 2014, 06:28:02 AM
Quote from: JohnD on August 30, 2014, 05:45:30 AM
XMR > BTC in 2015 !!!  Grin
Not possible  Shocked
18m XMR vs 21m BTC, its possible but highly improbable that soon.
Well this is just nonsense. Once the next spike happens everything (well most) will go to new heights.
Bitcoin will be really far away from the 2nd coin once it happens. It's one thing to be optimistic in regards to Monero, it's another thing to have unrealistic beliefs.
The price of Monero seems nice today though.
Hueristic
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Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation
August 30, 2014, 10:37:58 AM
#250
Quote from: ?? on ??
Quote from: Hueristic on August 30, 2014, 10:24:44 AM
Quote from: mr_random on August 29, 2014, 03:27:44 PM
Is there a rich list for XMR?

I obtained about 40k back when this coin was still young, I'm curious if that makes me an XMR whale or a small fish.

Does anyone see this coin going back to 60+ price?

You may want to consider adding to bounties to increase your holding value. This coin has a ton more potential that seems to be held back only by lack of funding.

BTW I hold zero ATM but have been watching (wish I had found this coin earlier).

price still less than 50% of ATH, not late to join Wink

I have bought and sold twice. I regretted selling both times. Smiley
Hueristic
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Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation
August 30, 2014, 10:24:44 AM
#249
Quote from: mr_random on August 29, 2014, 03:27:44 PM
Is there a rich list for XMR?

I obtained about 40k back when this coin was still young, I'm curious if that makes me an XMR whale or a small fish.

Does anyone see this coin going back to 60+ price?

You may want to consider adding to bounties to increase your holding value. This coin has a ton more potential that seems to be held back only by lack of funding.

BTW I hold zero ATM but have been watching (wish I had found this coin earlier).
David Latapie
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Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation
August 30, 2014, 09:58:32 AM
#248
Quote from: smooth on August 29, 2014, 05:36:14 PM
Quote from: Brilliantrocket on August 29, 2014, 05:18:58 PM
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills here! You've set it up so that everyone suffers.

There is a parable about this, but I couldn't remember where it comes from so I can't quote it properly.

But the thrust of it is that if something seems useless to you, you probably don't fully understand the purpose of it. Only when you can clearly understand and explain the argument in favor of something should you decide you are opposed to it, or vice versa. In fact most things that are worse for everyone doesn't even exist in the world. Ideas that dumb are quickly abandoned. So there must be someone for whom this is better. Try to figure out who that is and why.

Thinking that something is crazy or is worse for everyone when other obviously intelligent people disagree should be a clue that you don't understand it entirely. This doesn't mean you have to change your mind ultimately, but at least open it a crack.
This. I will remember this quote, thanks smooth Smiley And if someone remembers the parable, I'd be happy to read it.
thefunkybits
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Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation
August 30, 2014, 09:23:33 AM
#247
Well this is a nice sight to wake up to..

 Grin Grin Grin

3x2
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Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation
August 30, 2014, 06:28:02 AM
#246
Quote from: JohnD on August 30, 2014, 05:45:30 AM
XMR > BTC in 2015 !!!  Grin

Not possible  Shocked
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