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legendary
Activity: 2016
Merit: 1259
August 29, 2014, 04:55:28 PM
Do tell how a rich list would work in an untraceable currency?

That said, you have ~1.3% of current supply. I'd argue whale.

Touche. I figured that may well be the case but I wasn't sure if it was a case of being very difficult or actually impossible.


My random friend, you are most definitely a whale.

And yes, everyone here sees it going 60+. You'd be insane to buy something like XMR if you didn't think it had HUGE upside in case of success.

I should probably post in the XMR topics more often. But I advertise XMR in my sig everywhere which has to help.

What's surprised me about XMR is that it's proving to be more than a pump and dump. I attribute this to a continual flow of new investors due to word of mouth spreading.

Here's to the future  Smiley

I am managing a "rich list" and will add you, don't worry about filling it out. New graph updates coming this week.

Congrats on your early coins, you may be the "luckiest" XMR whale in existence.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/2egnsr/moneroxmr_unofficial_distribution_survey/


Hmm.   I resubmitted the form with an update.  It seems that I've blown through my 6 month projection already Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 2968
Merit: 1198
August 29, 2014, 04:51:56 PM
What are some ridiculously long term predictions for this coin? What price do you expect in 20 years time or so? I think in 2050, we'll see a legit FIAT crash from dollar and euro, with asia becoming the ruler fiat, and crypto growing strong on the sidelines. My only 2 long term bets are BTC and XMR thus far.

Possibly in 2070, 100-1000 XMR could be enough to buy a little island... Smiley

You know how many little islands there are for sale vs how many XMR will exist in 50 years?   Cheesy

Wish so bad I was around the internet before stupid people could connect  Roll Eyes  Undecided

Good luck with your island there guy  Kiss

At this moment with current XMR rate there are not so many islands for sale cheaper than 100K-1000K XMR. The growth of Earth population is slowing down and can stabilize may be around 10-12 billion by 2050 if no major disaster happens. But anyway the rate of the islands development is quite high so almost obvious that they are going to be much more expensive.

Widely adopted XMR is gonna be very expensive as well and so difficult to assume that it will rise 1000 or more times in just few years.

Bitcoin is not widely adopted and yet is 250x XMR. 1000x isn't hard at all to imagine given "wide adoption".

Given real "wide adoption" BTC has 100-1000x to go. If XMR achieves that "wide adoption" that is 25000-250000x by your numbers.




I agree with your conclusions, but I don't think we're using "my" numbers. I was trying to point out that a "mere" 1000x isn't hard to imagine. You provided the "wide adoption" numbers as far as I can tell Wink (I somewhat implied 4x current BTC value would be the absolute baseline for such a thing, but am in agreement the real value would be much higher).

I just meant the number for BTC/XMR. That's obvious from the market prices though.

Of course, this is all "speculation"


legendary
Activity: 1105
Merit: 1000
August 29, 2014, 04:47:28 PM
What are some ridiculously long term predictions for this coin? What price do you expect in 20 years time or so? I think in 2050, we'll see a legit FIAT crash from dollar and euro, with asia becoming the ruler fiat, and crypto growing strong on the sidelines. My only 2 long term bets are BTC and XMR thus far.

Possibly in 2070, 100-1000 XMR could be enough to buy a little island... Smiley

You know how many little islands there are for sale vs how many XMR will exist in 50 years?   Cheesy

Wish so bad I was around the internet before stupid people could connect  Roll Eyes  Undecided

Good luck with your island there guy  Kiss

At this moment with current XMR rate there are not so many islands for sale cheaper than 100K-1000K XMR. The growth of Earth population is slowing down and can stabilize may be around 10-12 billion by 2050 if no major disaster happens. But anyway the rate of the islands development is quite high so almost obvious that they are going to be much more expensive.

Widely adopted XMR is gonna be very expensive as well and so difficult to assume that it will rise 1000 or more times in just few years.

Bitcoin is not widely adopted and yet is 250x XMR. 1000x isn't hard at all to imagine given "wide adoption".

Given real "wide adoption" BTC has 100-1000x to go. If XMR achieves that "wide adoption" that is 25000-250000x by your numbers.




I agree with your conclusions, but I don't think we're using "my" numbers. I was trying to point out that a "mere" 1000x isn't hard to imagine. You provided the "wide adoption" numbers as far as I can tell Wink (I somewhat implied 4x current BTC value would be the absolute baseline for such a thing, but am in agreement the real value would be much higher).
legendary
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1000
August 29, 2014, 04:38:21 PM
Do tell how a rich list would work in an untraceable currency?

That said, you have ~1.3% of current supply. I'd argue whale.

Touche. I figured that may well be the case but I wasn't sure if it was a case of being very difficult or actually impossible.


My random friend, you are most definitely a whale.

And yes, everyone here sees it going 60+. You'd be insane to buy something like XMR if you didn't think it had HUGE upside in case of success.

I should probably post in the XMR topics more often. But I advertise XMR in my sig everywhere which has to help.

What's surprised me about XMR is that it's proving to be more than a pump and dump. I attribute this to a continual flow of new investors due to word of mouth spreading.

Here's to the future  Smiley

I am managing a "rich list" and will add you, don't worry about filling it out. New graph updates coming this week.

Congrats on your early coins, you may be the "luckiest" XMR whale in existence.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/2egnsr/moneroxmr_unofficial_distribution_survey/
legendary
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1001
August 29, 2014, 04:27:26 PM
Do tell how a rich list would work in an untraceable currency?

That said, you have ~1.3% of current supply. I'd argue whale.

Touche. I figured that may well be the case but I wasn't sure if it was a case of being very difficult or actually impossible.


My random friend, you are most definitely a whale.

And yes, everyone here sees it going 60+. You'd be insane to buy something like XMR if you didn't think it had HUGE upside in case of success.

I should probably post in the XMR topics more often. But I advertise XMR in my sig everywhere which has to help.

What's surprised me about XMR is that it's proving to be more than a pump and dump. I attribute this to a continual flow of new investors due to word of mouth spreading.

Here's to the future  Smiley
legendary
Activity: 2968
Merit: 1198
August 29, 2014, 04:10:41 PM
What are some ridiculously long term predictions for this coin? What price do you expect in 20 years time or so? I think in 2050, we'll see a legit FIAT crash from dollar and euro, with asia becoming the ruler fiat, and crypto growing strong on the sidelines. My only 2 long term bets are BTC and XMR thus far.

Possibly in 2070, 100-1000 XMR could be enough to buy a little island... Smiley

You know how many little islands there are for sale vs how many XMR will exist in 50 years?   Cheesy

Wish so bad I was around the internet before stupid people could connect  Roll Eyes  Undecided

Good luck with your island there guy  Kiss

At this moment with current XMR rate there are not so many islands for sale cheaper than 100K-1000K XMR. The growth of Earth population is slowing down and can stabilize may be around 10-12 billion by 2050 if no major disaster happens. But anyway the rate of the islands development is quite high so almost obvious that they are going to be much more expensive.

Widely adopted XMR is gonna be very expensive as well and so difficult to assume that it will rise 1000 or more times in just few years.

Bitcoin is not widely adopted and yet is 250x XMR. 1000x isn't hard at all to imagine given "wide adoption".

Given real "wide adoption" BTC has 100-1000x to go. If XMR achieves that "wide adoption" that is 25000-250000x by your numbers.


legendary
Activity: 1105
Merit: 1000
August 29, 2014, 04:09:05 PM
What are some ridiculously long term predictions for this coin? What price do you expect in 20 years time or so? I think in 2050, we'll see a legit FIAT crash from dollar and euro, with asia becoming the ruler fiat, and crypto growing strong on the sidelines. My only 2 long term bets are BTC and XMR thus far.

Possibly in 2070, 100-1000 XMR could be enough to buy a little island... Smiley

You know how many little islands there are for sale vs how many XMR will exist in 50 years?   Cheesy

Wish so bad I was around the internet before stupid people could connect  Roll Eyes  Undecided

Good luck with your island there guy  Kiss

At this moment with current XMR rate there are not so many islands for sale cheaper than 100K-1000K XMR. The growth of Earth population is slowing down and can stabilize may be around 10-12 billion by 2050 if no major disaster happens. But anyway the rate of the islands development is quite high so almost obvious that they are going to be much more expensive.

Widely adopted XMR is gonna be very expensive as well and so difficult to assume that it will rise 1000 or more times in just few years.

Bitcoin is not widely adopted and yet is 250x XMR. 1000x isn't hard at all to imagine given "wide adoption".
legendary
Activity: 981
Merit: 1005
No maps for these territories
August 29, 2014, 03:37:30 PM
Why this coin is better then all others altcoin?
FAQ entry: Prove me that Monero is not yet-another-shitcoin.

thats true, but there are also people like me with nearly no btc. we only buy btc to buy monero  Roll Eyes
Same thing here.

XMR as a currency symbol is simply used because its the ISO standard: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_4217
All currencies who aren´t bound to a single country or area are starting with X, like XBT is the currency code for Bitcoin and XCP is the code for Counterparty which have all totally different codebases.
Not only currencies, it also applies to some precious metals: gold (XAU), silver (XAG), palladium (XPD), platinum (XPT) (X+chemical symbol).

[2050] asia becoming the ruler fiat
(offtopic)
Asia is overrated, especially China. China has huge internal problems of many kind which are already kicking in - the Lewis Turning point being a reliable indicator among many others (like a long history of not being united and the tendancy to rest on his laurels, see Ming Dynasty).
Now, if you include India in Asia (you should), this is more plausible - it has the largest population in the world and it will continue and demography is a potent instrument; they also have a 50-years plan on thorium that is about to rise, thanks to their world's biggest reserve of thorium, a much less dangerous nuclear fuel than uranium.
Still, by 2050, I'd start considering Africa.
And by 2070 spatial nation-states/corporations should start becoming a force to be reckoned with.
(/offtopic)
Mmmm... black market import/export dealings of thorium with monero? <= this was an attempt at getting on topic.

Great post, not sure about the africa odds, but the rest is sublime and visionaire
legendary
Activity: 2282
Merit: 1050
Monero Core Team
August 29, 2014, 03:36:40 PM
Is there a rich list for XMR?

I obtained about 40k back when this coin was still young, I'm curious if that makes me an XMR whale or a small fish.

Does anyone see this coin going back to 60+ price?

Definitely a fairly large whale.
member
Activity: 94
Merit: 10
August 29, 2014, 03:36:10 PM
What are some ridiculously long term predictions for this coin? What price do you expect in 20 years time or so? I think in 2050, we'll see a legit FIAT crash from dollar and euro, with asia becoming the ruler fiat, and crypto growing strong on the sidelines. My only 2 long term bets are BTC and XMR thus far.

Possibly in 2070, 100-1000 XMR could be enough to buy a little island... Smiley

You know how many little islands there are for sale vs how many XMR will exist in 50 years?   Cheesy

Wish so bad I was around the internet before stupid people could connect  Roll Eyes  Undecided

Good luck with your island there guy  Kiss

At this moment with current XMR rate there are not so many islands for sale cheaper than 100K-1000K XMR. The growth of Earth population is slowing down and can stabilize may be around 10-12 billion by 2050 if no major disaster happens. But anyway the rate of the islands development is quite high so almost obvious that they are going to be much more expensive.

Widely adopted XMR is gonna be very expensive as well and so difficult to assume that it will rise 1000 or more times in just few years.
legendary
Activity: 930
Merit: 1010
August 29, 2014, 03:30:53 PM
Is there a rich list for XMR?

I obtained about 40k back when this coin was still young, I'm curious if that makes me an XMR whale or a small fish.

Does anyone see this coin going back to 60+ price?

My random friend, you are most definitely a whale.

And yes, everyone here sees it going 60+. You'd be insane to buy something like XMR if you didn't think it had HUGE upside in case of success.
legendary
Activity: 1105
Merit: 1000
August 29, 2014, 03:30:26 PM
Is there a rich list for XMR?

I obtained about 40k back when this coin was still young, I'm curious if that makes me an XMR whale or a small fish.

Does anyone see this coin going back to 60+ price?

Do tell how a rich list would work in an untraceable currency?

That said, you have ~1.3% of current supply. I'd argue whale.
legendary
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1001
August 29, 2014, 03:27:44 PM
Is there a rich list for XMR?

I obtained about 40k back when this coin was still young, I'm curious if that makes me an XMR whale or a small fish.

Does anyone see this coin going back to 60+ price?
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 503
Monero Core Team
August 29, 2014, 03:12:32 PM
humble me was there when noodledoodle delivered the first optimized miners, at time i went from 4h/s to 10h/s solo mining on my laptop, many were surprised by how fast and transparently things went
Yeah, good old time. I regret every day not having used my Azure trial on the very first days (I still managed to get several blocks) and waited so long before buying (and not even spending all my BTC there - but then I had only 0.5 BTC left after the Blackcoin debacle).
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 503
Monero Core Team
August 29, 2014, 01:47:29 PM
Why this coin is better then all others altcoin?
FAQ entry: Prove me that Monero is not yet-another-shitcoin.

thats true, but there are also people like me with nearly no btc. we only buy btc to buy monero  Roll Eyes
Same thing here.

XMR as a currency symbol is simply used because its the ISO standard: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_4217
All currencies who aren´t bound to a single country or area are starting with X, like XBT is the currency code for Bitcoin and XCP is the code for Counterparty which have all totally different codebases.
Not only currencies, it also applies to some precious metals: gold (XAU), silver (XAG), palladium (XPD), platinum (XPT) (X+chemical symbol).

[2050] asia becoming the ruler fiat
(offtopic)
Asia is overrated, especially China. China has huge internal problems of many kind which are already kicking in - the Lewis Turning point being a reliable indicator among many others (like a long history of not being united and the tendancy to rest on his laurels, see Ming Dynasty).
Now, if you include India in Asia (you should), this is more plausible - it has the largest population in the world and it will continue and demography is a potent instrument; they also have a 50-years plan on thorium that is about to rise, thanks to their world's biggest reserve of thorium, a much less dangerous nuclear fuel than uranium.
Still, by 2050, I'd start considering Africa.
And by 2070 spatial nation-states/corporations should start becoming a force to be reckoned with.
(/offtopic)
Mmmm... black market import/export dealings of thorium with monero? <= this was an attempt at getting on topic.
member
Activity: 196
Merit: 12
August 29, 2014, 01:34:07 PM
What are some ridiculously long term predictions for this coin? What price do you expect in 20 years time or so? I think in 2050, we'll see a legit FIAT crash from dollar and euro, with asia becoming the ruler fiat, and crypto growing strong on the sidelines. My only 2 long term bets are BTC and XMR thus far.

Possibly in 2070, 100-1000 XMR could be enough to buy a little island... Smiley

You know how many little islands there are for sale vs how many XMR will exist in 50 years?   Cheesy

Wish so bad I was around the internet before stupid people could connect  Roll Eyes  Undecided

Good luck with your island there guy  Kiss
member
Activity: 94
Merit: 10
August 29, 2014, 12:58:23 PM
What are some ridiculously long term predictions for this coin? What price do you expect in 20 years time or so? I think in 2050, we'll see a legit FIAT crash from dollar and euro, with asia becoming the ruler fiat, and crypto growing strong on the sidelines. My only 2 long term bets are BTC and XMR thus far.

Possibly in 2070, 100-1000 XMR could be enough to buy a little island... Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1428
Merit: 1001
getmonero.org
August 29, 2014, 12:34:57 PM
What are some ridiculously long term predictions for this coin? What price do you expect in 20 years time or so? I think in 2050, we'll see a legit FIAT crash from dollar and euro, with asia becoming the ruler fiat, and crypto growing strong on the sidelines. My only 2 long term bets are BTC and XMR thus far.


A billion CNY per XMR since dollar would have collapsed by then.
legendary
Activity: 930
Merit: 1010
August 29, 2014, 12:33:36 PM
What are some ridiculously long term predictions for this coin? What price do you expect in 20 years time or so? I think in 2050, we'll see a legit FIAT crash from dollar and euro, with asia becoming the ruler fiat, and crypto growing strong on the sidelines. My only 2 long term bets are BTC and XMR thus far.

We'll see that way way before 2050. We are talking years, not decades.

BTC for sure will have a place, and the leading anonymous currency at that time.
legendary
Activity: 2744
Merit: 1288
August 29, 2014, 12:32:41 PM
2050. are you crazy. if you can predict for 2020 you are king.
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