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Topic: [∞ YH] solo.ckpool.org 1% fee solo mining USA/DE 251 blocks solved! - page 479. (Read 1514087 times)

sr. member
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Thanks for running the pool!
Can check my stratum code
now:-)

Do you support testnet?
legendary
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I didn't know this existed. Thanks. I will definitely be doing this as a lottery!
newbie
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my apologies, willl look out for the thread about generic solo mining. Thanks for the tip about cgminer. The cgminer indeed is very old in these antminers (new or old)
-ck
legendary
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Ruu \o/
Anyone knows why the antminer S1 or S3 does not work for solo mining.
It gives high DiffR# and there is not way to tell what is happening.
Even if you turn off the pc that is running the wallet, the antminers donot detect that and keep running as if all is well for a long time (in minutes) at least in my case.


This is a pool thread for support of this solo pool, it is not for generic support for solo mining. That said, the Antminers have old versions of cgminer in them that used the ancient getwork protocol which bitcoind was not fast enough to work with for modern hardware. Either upgrade your cgminer or point your hashes at this pool instead.
newbie
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Anyone knows why the antminer S1 or S3 does not work for solo mining.
It gives high DiffR# and there is not way to tell what is happening.
Even if you turn off the pc that is running the wallet, the antminers donot detect that and keep running as if all is well for a long time (in minutes) at least in my case.

-ck
legendary
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Ruu \o/
Will you add a counter or at least the last block solved (with or without address or partial address info) ?
Given the low frequency we're likely to be seeing blocks, I'll just post the found blocks here. I'm not even storing a share count or anything at the moment since shares mean nothing. We'll see if the popularity picks up and if I should add that in, but I suspect I'll mostly see a trickle of hashes from small hardware and the occasional failover.
legendary
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BTW does anybody knows how many blocks have been found so far by solo.ckpool?
Zero

Will you add a counter or at least the last block solved (with or without address or partial address info) ?
hero member
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Why the hell not.  Thanks for this!  Smiley
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BTW does anybody knows how many blocks have been found so far by solo.ckpool?
Zero

Thanks ...
-ck
legendary
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Ruu \o/
Like it has been mentioned, the discarded number is due to the S3's high queue (I think it is 1046), but I am meant to believe does NOT affect your mining. you can change this to a lower number to get less discards.
This particular solo pool, I have noticed, takes a while to "settle" down to your appropriate hashing speed to assign a relevant Diff, so a few minutes is not long enough to reach conclusions.

OK, I will wait and check the stats after few hours ..
The number of discards has no effect on your mining.
-ck
legendary
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Ruu \o/
BTW does anybody knows how many blocks have been found so far by solo.ckpool?
Zero
legendary
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Mine at Jonny's Pool
PS. In my part of the world, though the lottery jackpot is not always won at each draw, there are always winners in each draw.
That's why I don't typically compare mining to playing the lottery.  You can win in the lottery by matching X of Y numbers.  You can't partially solve the block of BTC.
hero member
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It would most certainly not imply that a solo mining pool is a fraud.  I'm not sure how you drew that conclusion from this discussion.  Is it likely that I will solo mine a block of BTC?  Nope.  Is it likely I will win the powerball on Wednesday?  Nope.  Doesn't mean I won't pick up a ticket for a couple bucks and try anyway.

EDIT: It is not a combined effort of shares that solve a block.  It is a SINGLE share that does it.  Each time you're attempting to find the solution, it either works or it doesn't.  Flip a coin.  Either it lands on heads or it lands on tails.  It can't land on both at the same time.  Each flip of that coin has absolutely no relation to the flips before it, or the flips that come after it.
I hear you. Like I said, I'll continue with my reading up on pool mining and bitcoin in general. In the meantime, I'll leave my entire 14GH pointed firmly to the solo mining pool.
PS. In my part of the world, though the lottery jackpot is not always won at each draw, there are always winners in each draw.
legendary
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So basically what you are saying is that it is only possible for a single hasher to solve a block if it is just their shares that solve the entire block.
That would imply that a solo mining pool is a fraud as this will NEVER realistically happen with the hashing power in the hands of home miners.

EVERY block is solved with a SINGLE hash.  You should spend some time reading up on this stuff at https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining .

legendary
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Mine at Jonny's Pool
So basically what you are saying is that it is only possible for a single hasher to solve a block if it is just their shares that solve the entire block.
That would imply that a solo mining pool is a fraud as this will NEVER realistically happen with the hashing power in the hands of home miners.
It would most certainly not imply that a solo mining pool is a fraud.  I'm not sure how you drew that conclusion from this discussion.  Is it likely that I will solo mine a block of BTC?  Nope.  Is it likely I will win the powerball on Wednesday?  Nope.  Doesn't mean I won't pick up a ticket for a couple bucks and try anyway.

EDIT: It is not a combined effort of shares that solve a block.  It is a SINGLE share that does it.  Each time you're attempting to find the solution, it either works or it doesn't.  Flip a coin.  Either it lands on heads or it lands on tails.  It can't land on both at the same time.  Each flip of that coin has absolutely no relation to the flips before it, or the flips that come after it.
hero member
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Is not possible to implement, as the puzzle you are solving includes the definition of who gets paid.
You can either solve a problem that involves paying yourself all of the block reward, or you can solve a problem that involves paying the pool the block reward.
It is impossible to solve both problems simultaneously.
The question was clarified in my latter posts, and you have not caught up yet.
hero member
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I think I found your confusion.  There is no such thing as "the pool wins the block".  Either miner 1 or miner 2 had to have solved the block.  Your scenario 1 is in reality your scenario 2, minus that "pool wins the block" stuff.  If both miner 1 and miner 2 are mining with equal hashing power and equally submitting shares, then they've each contributed exactly half the work necessary to solve the block.  Therefore, they're each going to get 12.5BTC.
So basically what you are saying is that it is only possible for a single hasher to solve a block if it is just their shares that solve the entire block.
That would imply that a solo mining pool is a fraud as this will NEVER realistically happen with the hashing power in the hands of home miners.
sr. member
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But I digress, the question was is that kind of pool technically feasible to implement (or am I barking mad because that is what P2Pool is)?

This:
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Just wondering, can we not have the best of both worlds by solo-mining AND submiting to a pool at the same time?

Is not possible to implement, as the puzzle you are solving includes the definition of who gets paid.
You can either solve a problem that involves paying yourself all of the block reward, or you can solve a problem that involves paying the pool the block reward.
It is impossible to solve both problems simultaneously.
legendary
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Mine at Jonny's Pool
Let me give you a scenario.  I go and create this type of pool, and have 2 miners connected to it.  After a while the first block is found by miner 1.  Both miners have been submitting work equally.  I have 25BTC to give out.  Who gets it?  If I pay miner 1 the full 25BTC for finding the block, I don't have anything left to pay miner 2.  If I pay both miner 1 and miner 2 for the work they've done, I don't have the 25BTC to give to miner 1 for finding the block.  Make sense?
Just to tweak your scenario to suit my utopia.
2 miners connected, hashing equally.
Scenario 1: Miner 1 finds the block - Miner 1 gets 25BTC less the mining fees attributed to Miner 2's work which Miner 2 gets
Scenario 2: the pool wins the block - Each miner gets 12.5BTC including (or in addition to) the mining fees attributed to their work submissions

I think I found your confusion.  There is no such thing as "the pool wins the block".  Either miner 1 or miner 2 had to have solved the block.  Your scenario 1 is in reality your scenario 2, minus that "pool wins the block" stuff.  If both miner 1 and miner 2 are mining with equal hashing power and equally submitting shares, then they've each contributed exactly half the work necessary to solve the block.  Therefore, they're each going to get 12.5BTC.
hero member
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Let me give you a scenario.  I go and create this type of pool, and have 2 miners connected to it.  After a while the first block is found by miner 1.  Both miners have been submitting work equally.  I have 25BTC to give out.  Who gets it?  If I pay miner 1 the full 25BTC for finding the block, I don't have anything left to pay miner 2.  If I pay both miner 1 and miner 2 for the work they've done, I don't have the 25BTC to give to miner 1 for finding the block.  Make sense?
Just to tweak your scenario to suit my utopia.
2 miners connected, hashing equally.
Scenario 1: Miner 1 finds the block - Miner 1 gets 25BTC less the mining fees attributed to Miner 2's work which Miner 2 gets
Scenario 2: the pool wins the block - Each miner gets 12.5BTC including (or in addition to) the mining fees attributed to their work submissions
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