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Topic: [∞ YH] solo.ckpool.org 2% fee solo mining USA/DE 255 blocks solved! - page 280. (Read 1514780 times)

legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1000
Why so often the bloks fly in a row (2-4) at the same pool (antpool f2pool etc )
What is the cause ?
They are very large pools with huge %s of the network hash rate; they are bound to find most of the blocks and sometimes they happen to be in a row.  If you had 130PH imagine how many blocks you would solve in a row sometimes.
full member
Activity: 164
Merit: 100
Ok I see
there is no clear answer
but the generally/mostly pool stats should show 80 TH and in this case ?
EDIT
One more question master
If the distribution blocks among the miners/pools is random but proportional to hash
Why so often the bloks fly in a row (2-4) at the same pool (antpool f2pool etc )
What is the cause ?
legendary
Activity: 4592
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
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Ok but let say you rent 100 Th
They sending 20 TH to own pool
At the end  What will I see on the pool dashborad/stats 80TH or 100TH?
Unfortunately that's not relevant.
The proxy dashboard can show whatever it likes, so that's not gonna guarantee anything in any way.

The pool it was sent to should show "hash rate" x "time" difficulty accepted
(but I've no idea what % of that, people consider OK ...)

The person who owns the miner, well they're the one who can be done in by "extranonce subscribe"
They need to trust the proxy is sending all their hash rate to where they should be sending it
They have no idea where it is going and no way to check how much of it is going where
They can of course expect a specific amount of "paid for" work, but what exactly is the expected % paid of total hashes?
(of course adding a proxy between the miner and any pool, already guarantees more stale work)
full member
Activity: 164
Merit: 100
If you're renting your hash, then somebody hit a block of an alt coin with your miner.

oh I see...my hash was redirected to an alt with lower diff and the miner found a block...


I guess never stop learning...

thx for explanation
*hash use a hack in their "special" *hash cgminer versions called "extranonce subscribe"
It allows them to point your miner at any pool, any sha256 coin at any time and you wont ever know.
I wont put it in master cgminer - but the clone miner supports it in master also.

Thank you for standing up for right thing as always.  I never got to into extragonce as it seemed nicehash was main place pushing for it and they really are not that good anymore on pay vs just mining.

That is very scary though they could point to another pool.  Have there been any documented cases?  Or just theory? Or I guess we might not know it sounds like.
That's how it works.

The idea behind it is to avoid stale shares.

But like any hack and slash idea, you need to consider the consequences.

If you mined at some rogue proxy (or pool) they could be sending a few hashes here and a few hashes there and you'd never even know.
It's simply too open to abuse.
Ok but let say you rent 100 Th
They sending 20 TH to own pool
At the end  What will I see on the pool dashborad/stats 80TH or 100TH?
legendary
Activity: 4592
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
If you're renting your hash, then somebody hit a block of an alt coin with your miner.

oh I see...my hash was redirected to an alt with lower diff and the miner found a block...


I guess never stop learning...

thx for explanation
*hash use a hack in their "special" *hash cgminer versions called "extranonce subscribe"
It allows them to point your miner at any pool, any sha256 coin at any time and you wont ever know.
I wont put it in master cgminer - but the clone miner supports it in master also.

Thank you for standing up for right thing as always.  I never got to into extragonce as it seemed nicehash was main place pushing for it and they really are not that good anymore on pay vs just mining.

That is very scary though they could point to another pool.  Have there been any documented cases?  Or just theory? Or I guess we might not know it sounds like.
That's how it works.

The idea behind it is to avoid stale shares.

But like any hack and slash idea, you need to consider the consequences.

If you mined at some rogue proxy (or pool) they could be sending a few hashes here and a few hashes there and you'd never even know.
It's simply too open to abuse.
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1000
If you're renting your hash, then somebody hit a block of an alt coin with your miner.

oh I see...my hash was redirected to an alt with lower diff and the miner found a block...


I guess never stop learning...

thx for explanation
*hash use a hack in their "special" *hash cgminer versions called "extranonce subscribe"
It allows them to point your miner at any pool, any sha256 coin at any time and you wont ever know.
I wont put it in master cgminer - but the clone miner supports it in master also.

Thank you for standing up for right thing as always.  I never got to into extragonce as it seemed nicehash was main place pushing for it and they really are not that good anymore on pay vs just mining.

That is very scary though they could point to another pool.  Have there been any documented cases?  Or just theory? Or I guess we might not know it sounds like.
sr. member
Activity: 405
Merit: 250
If you're renting your hash, then somebody hit a block of an alt coin with your miner.

oh I see...my hash was redirected to an alt with lower diff and the miner found a block...


I guess never stop learning...

thx for explanation
*hash use a hack in their "special" *hash cgminer versions called "extranonce subscribe"
It allows them to point your miner at any pool, any sha256 coin at any time and you wont ever know.
I wont put it in master cgminer - but the clone miner supports it in master also.

I saw something about it...but I didn't install that firmware on my miners.....
legendary
Activity: 4592
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
If you're renting your hash, then somebody hit a block of an alt coin with your miner.

oh I see...my hash was redirected to an alt with lower diff and the miner found a block...


I guess never stop learning...

thx for explanation
*hash use a hack in their "special" *hash cgminer versions called "extranonce subscribe"
It allows them to point your miner at any pool, any sha256 coin at any time and you wont ever know.
I wont put it in master cgminer - but the clone miner supports it in master also.
legendary
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1024
Mine at Jonny's Pool
sr. member
Activity: 405
Merit: 250
If you're renting your hash, then somebody hit a block of an alt coin with your miner.

oh I see...my hash was redirected to an alt with lower diff and the miner found a block...


I guess never stop learning...

thx for explanation
legendary
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1024
Mine at Jonny's Pool
If you're renting your hash, then somebody hit a block of an alt coin with your miner.
sr. member
Activity: 405
Merit: 250
Something else.  Were you renting your gear?  Pointing it to an alt coin?  Because for that to have been a bitcoin block, best share would have had to have been at least 72,722,780,642

the share count make me perplex also.....and yes I'm renting my hash....

what it was then ? never saw that number above 0 before
legendary
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1024
Mine at Jonny's Pool
Something else.  Were you renting your gear?  Pointing it to an alt coin?  Because for that to have been a bitcoin block, best share would have had to have been at least 72,722,780,642
sr. member
Activity: 405
Merit: 250
F***ck...

I stopped mining here few days ago and pointed my s3s to a normal pool and guess what...

one of them found a block..... Shocked

https://www.anony.ws/image/JgDZ
That's not a BTC block Tongue

what is it then ? in the http interface the "FoundBlocks" was also saying 1....and I never saw that before....it was always at 0

legendary
Activity: 4592
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
F***ck...

I stopped mining here few days ago and pointed my s3s to a normal pool and guess what...

one of them found a block..... Shocked

https://www.anony.ws/image/JgDZ
That's not a BTC block Tongue
sr. member
Activity: 405
Merit: 250
F***ck...

I stopped mining here few days ago and pointed my s3s to a normal pool and guess what...

one of them found a block..... Shocked

https://www.anony.ws/image/JgDZ
legendary
Activity: 2702
Merit: 1030
Yes I am a pirate, 300 years too late!
My 12 hours is up.  I gave it hell, this is the 2nd time I have tried renting 1P and couldn't get a best share over 5B.  My best ever is 14B with only 100T.  Oh well...
legendary
Activity: 2483
Merit: 1482
-> morgen, ist heute, schon gestern <-
I don't want to frustrate you, but look yourself:
Code:
{"hashrate1m": "5.67T", "hashrate5m": "6.15T", "hashrate1hr": "6.5T", "hashrate1d": "2.19T", "hashrate7d": "502G", "lastupdate": 1449089419, "workers": 6, "shares": 331691539, "bestshare": 236731188.83870247, "bestever": 236731188}
anyway, it is not a block!

So we wait and keep the finger crossed... what is real bad if you try to write in a forum and use your crossed fingers for typing. Grin
legendary
Activity: 2702
Merit: 1030
Yes I am a pirate, 300 years too late!
1P running for 10 hours, best share 5B, looks like no luck for me today either.
member
Activity: 78
Merit: 10
So far my bast share is 5529192655, need one of those kick ass shares!!!

Good luck, I ran 250T for a few days and my best share was ~21B. I've scaled back to 80T for now...still hoping for some more luck  Wink

Im sat at 795724943 with 400th pointed over here...
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