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Quote from: bitzizzix on August 31, 2020, 11:35:08 PM

Indeed, gambling must be used as entertainment or pleasure to fill spare time and limiting betting capital is the most important thing and can control yourself when playing.
play in a relaxed and calm manner when gambling for entertainment or pleasure and stop playing when you are in a winning position because it is the right choice and do not have the ambition to continue to win because it will result in losses and ultimately lose everything.

By far that is the best attitude to have when you are gambling, I understand that for many people it is very important to win in almost any activity that they perform, however we must understand that when we are gambling we are playing at a disadvantage thanks to the house edge and as such it is a given that over the long term you are going to lose money, and this means that the right attitude that we must have is to gamble only for fun and for entertainment and I'm sure that if everyone was like that we will not have to endure ridiculous laws like the one that we are discussing right now.

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Quote from: livingfree on August 30, 2020, 03:45:15 PM

Quote from: Waffen on August 30, 2020, 11:59:50 AM

It's little bit harder to predict what will happen. But at all you have to "accept" your losses no matter what. It's part of the life, everyone had loss, there is no person who is only doing profits or anything like that. We're taking notes from our losses, like they're teaching us to be better and better therefore to do not do the same wrong thing again as before.

We don't have other choices but to accept the losses.

A gambler that can't take his losses potentially can lose more than he can. And if it gets serious and the government recognizes that problem, they have all the means to give a cap for the gamblers as a law.

If, they saw a lot of people being affected.

I agree with you, mate. Wink

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Quote from: KTChampions on August 29, 2020, 06:05:35 PM

I do not see any good intentions in considering an adult as incompetent. I think that this is a limitation in rights and quite serious - in fact, we have to prove/obtain permission to use our own money. I think this is a step towards totalitarianism. I am sure that if the government does not receive a rebuff with such initiatives, then it continues to invade all spheres of life and dictate conditions (often absurd), of course, "with the best of intentions."

This is something that we shouldn't be done. Our own hard-earned money is something that we should freely use. If this law will make require us to prove and obtain permission to use our money, then it seems that they don't have any good intentions. It will look like "our money, is their money."

True. I hope conscientious citizens will take the initiative and explain to legislators that this law violates the basic principles of freedom. In general, it infuriates that in order to remain free it is necessary to constantly monitor such seemingly absurd but very dangerous legislative initiatives.

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Quote from: bitzizzix on August 31, 2020, 11:35:08 PM

Quote from: peter0425 on August 31, 2020, 11:07:43 PM

Quote from: Waffen on August 30, 2020, 11:59:50 AM

It's little bit harder to predict what will happen. But at all you have to "accept" your losses no matter what. It's part of the life, everyone had loss, there is no person who is only doing profits or anything like that. We're taking notes from our losses, like they're teaching us to be better and better therefore to do not do the same wrong thing again as before.

gambling is created for entertainment while goes by it becomes a habit and profiteering,But the majority losses thats why we need to be aware of many chances that we will lose.
never look for always Win because this is just a dream.
Start Dealing in gambling with proper manner and that is only gamble small amount no matter how enjoying this is.

Indeed, gambling must be used as entertainment or pleasure to fill spare time and limiting betting capital is the most important thing and can control yourself when playing.
play in a relaxed and calm manner when gambling for entertainment or pleasure and stop playing when you are in a winning position because it is the right choice and do not have the ambition to continue to win because it will result in losses and ultimately lose everything.

Being calm always is not the answer because any moment the calm that you are feeling can turn into frustration if you experiences consecutive losses but this can be prevented through good emotional awareness and understanding. Controlling is not good way to regain positive emotion because sometimes controlling can boost more the frustration and the anger that you keep feeling. People should be aware to the outcomes that they may encounter after they spend their money in gambling, the problem is a lot of people who are becoming broke because of their poor money management. The government is just doing their way in order to protect and prevent other people to become broke so for me it is good if they will continue their plan about it.

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Quote from: bitzizzix on August 31, 2020, 11:35:08 PM

Indeed, gambling must be used as entertainment or pleasure to fill spare time and limiting betting capital is the most important thing and can control yourself when playing.
play in a relaxed and calm manner when gambling for entertainment or pleasure and stop playing when you are in a winning position because it is the right choice and do not have the ambition to continue to win because it will result in losses and ultimately lose everything.

You said to play as an entertainment, I don't think anyone would be relaxed and calm at that time.

It is not bad to be happy when you win and be sad when you lost as long as you know what you are doing. Also, when we gamble, we already know that people will not always win so we know they already added the idea of them just having fun in the casino or a gambling site despite losing or winning, still it doesn't matter because what matters is we are having fun.

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Quote from: bitzizzix on August 31, 2020, 11:35:08 PM

play in a relaxed and calm manner when gambling for entertainment or pleasure

obviously because there is no point of playing too fast when your goal is supposed to play to kill and past the time .

im not playing for pleasure but i do practice relaxing my self whenever im betting because i notice that i can attract lady luck when im not in a hurry but except if there is a competition where you need to act faster .

i sometimes join those and i activate my rush mode for a while .

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Quote from: peter0425 on August 31, 2020, 11:07:43 PM

Quote from: Waffen on August 30, 2020, 11:59:50 AM

It's little bit harder to predict what will happen. But at all you have to "accept" your losses no matter what. It's part of the life, everyone had loss, there is no person who is only doing profits or anything like that. We're taking notes from our losses, like they're teaching us to be better and better therefore to do not do the same wrong thing again as before.

gambling is created for entertainment while goes by it becomes a habit and profiteering,But the majority losses thats why we need to be aware of many chances that we will lose.
never look for always Win because this is just a dream.
Start Dealing in gambling with proper manner and that is only gamble small amount no matter how enjoying this is.

Indeed, gambling must be used as entertainment or pleasure to fill spare time and limiting betting capital is the most important thing and can control yourself when playing.
play in a relaxed and calm manner when gambling for entertainment or pleasure and stop playing when you are in a winning position because it is the right choice and do not have the ambition to continue to win because it will result in losses and ultimately lose everything.

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Quote from: Waffen on August 30, 2020, 11:59:50 AM

It's little bit harder to predict what will happen. But at all you have to "accept" your losses no matter what. It's part of the life, everyone had loss, there is no person who is only doing profits or anything like that. We're taking notes from our losses, like they're teaching us to be better and better therefore to do not do the same wrong thing again as before.

gambling is created for entertainment while goes by it becomes a habit and profiteering,But the majority losses thats why we need to be aware of many chances that we will lose.
never look for always Win because this is just a dream.
Start Dealing in gambling with proper manner and that is only gamble small amount no matter how enjoying this is.

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Quote from: maydna on August 30, 2020, 09:38:54 PM

Only a few people who can win over and over in gambling and that person will have much luck which can give him the chance to win. Having good knowledge will not help if you don't have luck because the luck will be the one factor besides the other things that will determine. If we lost in gambling, especially lost big money in gambling, we need to think twice to continue or to stop gambling. But the best solution will be to stop gambling for a while, so you can refresh your mind by taking a relax. If you can accept the loss after you stop for a while, you can know if your luck will not always stay beside you.

It's quite unrealistic to believe that there really are some person that is lucky. Because for me, everyone could be lucky at a time, it is just that, some people wins allot because they are atleast trying their luck often. But the percentage of those who won too much in just a small amount of game is too low. That means that if we cannot win a jackpot by playing small amount of games, we should try to play allot and lower our bet.

With regards to whether to continue or not when lost, there is a strategy which is called martingale, basically, doubling your bet after losing in order to get back your money fast.

Everyone could be lucky, but all of them could not be lucky together because luck will only pick one or two or three people who deserve luck. So that will make sense if a few people can win much money from gambling. I think it is realistic if only a few people can get lucky in gambling games or even in other things. Playing a lot and using lower bets will not always give us a chance to us. The important is we know how to control ourselves and limit ourselves. Don't force us to play a lot if we can't accept the risk.

Doubling your bet after losing will be on your side temporary, so you don't have to depend on that for a long time because if you still use it for a long time, you can't always win.

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Quote from: Naida_BR on August 31, 2020, 01:34:36 AM

Losses are those who made us better players or people.
If you don't lose you don't win so it is good to have experienced them in order to take your lessons and do not repeat your past activities.

But there are a lot of people that would take that losses so differently. Just think of those people that are addicted to gambling, I know that most of them are not addicted because they are losing but still, they view their losses so differently. Some actually think that they can get those losses back not knowing they will lose more. Looking at this thread, we could say that not all of us will be able to look at losses like that.

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Quote from: Pamadar on August 26, 2020, 02:17:52 PM

Most of us have that same sentiments, it's not going to benefits those gamblers who know how to take their losses, the approval of this rules will really affects those gambling sites who are legally facilitated, while gamblers will choose to find other ways to hide their activities.

It wont help either way, as while helping gambling addicts you also removing gamblers from playing inside legit casino house.

It is as if those politicians cannot really see the forest for the trees, they are so obsessed with the idea of creating laws that they do not see that not only they are damaging the freedom of the people they are also damaging the government itself, the gambling industry is huge around the world and it generates a lot of taxes, these kind of regulations will force many people that are spending their money responsibly to no longer spending it in gambling reducing their tax income just in the moment in which they need it the most.

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Quote from: Naida_BR on August 31, 2020, 01:34:36 AM

Quote from: Waffen on August 30, 2020, 11:59:50 AM

It's little bit harder to predict what will happen. But at all you have to "accept" your losses no matter what. It's part of the life, everyone had loss, there is no person who is only doing profits or anything like that. We're taking notes from our losses, like they're teaching us to be better and better therefore to do not do the same wrong thing again as before.

Well, you have decided that you are going to lose from the beginning.
Losses are those who made us better players or people.
If you don't lose you don't win so it is good to have experienced them in order to take your lessons and do not repeat your past activities.

If you dont risk then you won't win in this gambling activities.

There are many gamblers that always seek for winning that's they all Got is losses,If you gamble
then you must expect defeat so with this there is a chance that you'll learn how to manage the losses and control your emotion that will
lead you to maintain small losses than chasing wins all the time.

and th best thing is?Don't gamble if you don't have enough money to spend or risk.

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Quote from: Waffen on August 30, 2020, 11:59:50 AM

It's little bit harder to predict what will happen. But at all you have to "accept" your losses no matter what. It's part of the life, everyone had loss, there is no person who is only doing profits or anything like that. We're taking notes from our losses, like they're teaching us to be better and better therefore to do not do the same wrong thing again as before.

Well, you have decided that you are going to lose from the beginning.
Losses are those who made us better players or people.
If you don't lose you don't win so it is good to have experienced them in order to take your lessons and do not repeat your past activities.

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Quote from: maydna on August 30, 2020, 09:38:54 PM

Only a few people who can win over and over in gambling and that person will have much luck which can give him the chance to win. Having good knowledge will not help if you don't have luck because the luck will be the one factor besides the other things that will determine. If we lost in gambling, especially lost big money in gambling, we need to think twice to continue or to stop gambling. But the best solution will be to stop gambling for a while, so you can refresh your mind by taking a relax. If you can accept the loss after you stop for a while, you can know if your luck will not always stay beside you.

It's quite unrealistic to believe that there really are some person that is lucky. Because for me, everyone could be lucky at a time, it is just that, some people wins allot because they are atleast trying their luck often. But the percentage of those who won too much in just a small amount of game is too low. That means that if we cannot win a jackpot by playing small amount of games, we should try to play allot and lower our bet.

With regards to whether to continue or not when lost, there is a strategy which is called martingale, basically, doubling your bet after losing in order to get back your money fast.

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Quote from: Amel on August 30, 2020, 03:08:38 PM

Winning over and over again in gambling alone is not an easy task. Very good knowledge throughout you can't make money from gambling. A lot of the time it doesn't work knowingly, because the team you gamble with can lose at any time. But one thing that came to my mind very well is that if you lose in gambling and quit gambling, you will not get back the money you lost. So you have to have the courage to win the gamble. You can play little by little if you want.

Only a few people who can win over and over in gambling and that person will have much luck which can give him the chance to win. Having good knowledge will not help if you don't have luck because the luck will be the one factor besides the other things that will determine. If we lost in gambling, especially lost big money in gambling, we need to think twice to continue or to stop gambling. But the best solution will be to stop gambling for a while, so you can refresh your mind by taking a relax. If you can accept the loss after you stop for a while, you can know if your luck will not always stay beside you.

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Quote from: GDragon on August 29, 2020, 05:49:17 AM

This law has good intentions but it is still lack basis for the gamblers. I understand that they are trying to save those gamblers who are having financial problems but I think this is not the solution, they can try to provide professional help for those gamblers maybe, but they are trying to pass a law that has so many loopholes.

And the law can affect the casinos and other gamblers too. I may not have the right solution but I hope they can really find the best one for their good intentions, but I think this ain't it.

I do not see any good intentions in considering an adult as incompetent. I think that this is a limitation in rights and quite serious - in fact, we have to prove/obtain permission to use our own money. I think this is a step towards totalitarianism. I am sure that if the government does not receive a rebuff with such initiatives, then it continues to invade all spheres of life and dictate conditions (often absurd), of course, "with the best of intentions."

This is something that we shouldn't be done. Our own hard-earned money is something that we should freely use. If this law will make require us to prove and obtain permission to use our money, then it seems that they don't have any good intentions. It will look like "our money, is their money."

Well, you can't say that unless you can't even control your own money. That is the reason people should really be taught about financial literacy. The government will not be this strict if the people are actually reducing their money used in gambling. In other countries gambling addiction is a problem, if people can't do anything about it the government need to step up.

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Quote from: Waffen on August 30, 2020, 11:59:50 AM

It's little bit harder to predict what will happen. But at all you have to "accept" your losses no matter what. It's part of the life, everyone had loss, there is no person who is only doing profits or anything like that. We're taking notes from our losses, like they're teaching us to be better and better therefore to do not do the same wrong thing again as before.

We don't have other choices but to accept the losses.

A gambler that can't take his losses potentially can lose more than he can. And if it gets serious and the government recognizes that problem, they have all the means to give a cap for the gamblers as a law.

If, they saw a lot of people being affected.

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Winning over and over again in gambling alone is not an easy task. Very good knowledge throughout you can't make money from gambling. A lot of the time it doesn't work knowingly, because the team you gamble with can lose at any time. But one thing that came to my mind very well is that if you lose in gambling and quit gambling, you will not get back the money you lost. So you have to have the courage to win the gamble. You can play little by little if you want.

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It's little bit harder to predict what will happen. But at all you have to "accept" your losses no matter what. It's part of the life, everyone had loss, there is no person who is only doing profits or anything like that. We're taking notes from our losses, like they're teaching us to be better and better therefore to do not do the same wrong thing again as before.

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Quote from: Janation on August 30, 2020, 04:05:02 AM

I know right?

It is our money, why should we even ask them permission how we will use that? If we buy a lot of things in a grocery, they don't require us to ask them a permission, isn't it? Maybe that is because of how they can get taxes on that grocery while on the money we lost in gamlbing, they can't get anything. That is why it is better to use cryptocurrency.

I agree that it is our money and should be able to use it freely but if our gambling habit endangers ourselves or our family because of financial instability because of gambling then I would happily comply to the law. I know the law sounds restrictive but it is actually for our own good.

I know that it is a problem.

To be honest I am not against the limit. They could put a limit to a gambler every month or even a week if they wanted to but for us to go to an office of an ombudsman to prove that we can take a loss, for me is just extreme. If that limits doesn't work, the government doesn't need to adjust, it should be the gamblers. It is not always the restrictions, it is also the people.

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