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Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on July 14, 2023, 02:45:05 AM

Things we must do to stop gambling according to experts:

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1. Recognize the problem

Greed is the main problem. Most gambling addicts think if they play long enough some day they will get rich but of course that's not true. It is because the games are designed to make you poor in the long run. These people will never understand this fact so they keep playing and getting poorer and poorer.

The moment they identify this problem and understand it fully, one question remains to be answered.

"Do you want to get poor or not?"

Yes > keep playing.
No > stop playing.

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Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on July 14, 2023, 02:45:05 AM

Things we must do to stop gambling according to experts:

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1. Recognize the problem
2. Remove the stigma
3. Confide in a love one
4. Seek professional health
5. Adjust as needed

Source: https://www.forbes.com/health/mind/how-to-stop-gambling-expert-advice/

Now, if you still want to gamble but you don't want to become addicted to it, one of the things you should do in my opinion is:

1. Only set aside an amount of money that you will use to gamble in a casino.
2. Don't think that you will gamble to make money, because if you do that, you will surely have a problem later.
3. Just spend a few hours staying in a casino to gamble so you can avoid what you don't realize is wasting time that you should be spending on important things instead of gambling.

The theory is of course very easy, you have to do this and that, but in practice, it is very difficult, because gambling always involves emotions. Emotions greatly influence player decisions if players can properly control their emotions then all the theories that these players know will be very easy to do but without control then all these theories will only remain theories and players will only follow what they think because they are controlled by emotions. the feeling of continuing to win or recovering what has been lost in the previous game because gamblers cannot accept the results very well, being able to accept defeat because that is indeed part of gambling, including receiving wins well and not thinking that victory will always be obtained in every gamble because that is impossible because all players must have experienced victory but also defeat for sure, because if only wins are obtained then it is unlikely that many new casinos will emerge because it is not a profitable business at all.

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have you applied everything or at least some of those ? because you seems to be gambler also .
giving advise to quit or to control gambling is something that we should be doing also to know if it is applicable and have a good effect or not.

personally some of those have been in me or at least I did in the past because now I am sober in gambling already.

Quote from: MainIbem on July 16, 2023, 07:58:22 AM

Don't you think it all depends on individuals?
Whom ever that wants to control himself or herself from being an addict would surely do that because what I fully understand most from people is that they centered their mind on always winning without knowing that alone have brought them selves down to constantly keep losing while gambling. At point of continuing to gamble and chasing lost is what usually attracts being an addict. We should try to reduce our focus and efforts and whomever that can adhered to it would surely know how to control himself or themselves in terms of gambling addiction.

yes it is depend in each individuals but at least OP lay advises that we cannot deny helpful for gamblers not unless we will not look seriously in that matter..

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Quote from: Mr.suevie on July 16, 2023, 04:39:14 AM

But its not bad trying to throw the advice outside maybe some of the addicts can still grow a mind from the constant advice given that can help them withstand this habit of theirs and moreover I have seen someone who have discipline himself to actually reduce his gambling act because of the huge losses and problems he had to encounter.

The real problem is how to convince the addict that he is suffering from addiction problems!
Most of the people who have gambling problems that I have met (as I said in another reply) don't realize they are sick and when you tell them that they need help, they refuse to accept the truth. They will tell you that everything is under control while it's not. Recognizing the issue and embrassing the sad truth is the most important step toward recovery.

This is the reality with gambling addicts. People just gamble and when they're at the level of addiction they just say it is common and I'm normal. To get out of addiction first of all the person should have the self willing. When they don't find themselves addicted the recovery phase won't happen. The realisation happens when they don't have anymore option left to gamble, particularly when they weren't able to manage the funds for gambling think of getting out of addiction.

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Quote from: Mr.suevie on July 16, 2023, 04:39:14 AM

But its not bad trying to throw the advice outside maybe some of the addicts can still grow a mind from the constant advice given that can help them withstand this habit of theirs and moreover I have seen someone who have discipline himself to actually reduce his gambling act because of the huge losses and problems he had to encounter.

The real problem is how to convince the addict that he is suffering from addiction problems!
Most of the people who have gambling problems that I have met (as I said in another reply) don't realize they are sick and when you tell them that they need help, they refuse to accept the truth. They will tell you that everything is under control while it's not. Recognizing the issue and embrassing the sad truth is the most important step toward recovery.

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Quote from: Frankolala on July 16, 2023, 03:09:52 PM

Quote from: Mr.suevie on July 16, 2023, 04:39:14 AM

Quote from: darkangel11 on July 15, 2023, 09:42:36 AM

This isn't a bad advice, although, from my experience, telling people to seek help and control themselves when they're addicted is throwing words to the wind.
Have you ever known any drug addicts, or alcoholics? Go to them and tell them that they should spend less on their addiction and control their habits. See where this leads you Wink

We all know how we should quit and addicts know it too, but they are unable to due to the weakness of character.

But its not bad trying to throw the advice outside maybe some of the addicts can still grow a mind from the constant advice given that can help them withstand this habit of theirs and moreover I have seen someone who have discipline himself to actually reduce his gambling act because of the huge losses and problems he had to encounter.

I agree with you,an addicted gambler can leave his addiction or limit it when gambling has taken away something great from him,if not he wouldn't quit gambling. Some people after much advise from friends and family they can consider quitting gamble. Most gamblers quits gambling,when they have made up their minds to quit or have issues with their loved ones based on their gambling activities,which becomes a threat to them or they feel insecure with it.

When a family is united, many things can be done, because if someone has problems, they simply help each other, then addiction problems are something that can be treated quickly because they give them immediate attention, in part that is what matters. Addiction is something that has to be treated with great courage, because the person has to Recognize that they have that problem , sometimes because of the question of what they will Say , well they keep that to themselves and it is like worse , then the best and the Strongest step is that , to recognize it so that it can be Recognized and be helped , these things are the ones that must be understood.

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Quote from: Frankolala on July 16, 2023, 03:09:52 PM

I agree with you,an addicted gambler can leave his addiction or limit it when gambling has taken away something great from him,if not he wouldn't quit gambling.

On the contrary I think the other way around. A gambling addict only stops gambling if he managed to control his urged of gambling. When he decided to acknowledge that he has a gambling addiction and is about to seek help from the professional therapist to get treated. There are lots of addicted gambler that still continue to gambling despite the devastation he experienced from his continuous gambling activity. There are addicted gambler who are already in ruin but still keep on gambling because they are in denial that the are addicted to gambling.

Quote from: Frankolala on July 16, 2023, 03:09:52 PM

Some people after much advise from friends and family they can consider quitting gamble. Most gamblers quits gambling,when they have made up their minds to quit or have issues with their loved ones based on their gambling activities,which becomes a threat to them or they feel insecure with it.

These people who are able to stop gambling following the advice of their friends and love ones are not addicted to gambling at all. They maybe hooked but are still not addicted to gambling reason why they can easily quit gambling without any kinds of resistance from themselves.

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Quote from: Mr.suevie on July 16, 2023, 04:39:14 AM

Quote from: darkangel11 on July 15, 2023, 09:42:36 AM

This isn't a bad advice, although, from my experience, telling people to seek help and control themselves when they're addicted is throwing words to the wind.
Have you ever known any drug addicts, or alcoholics? Go to them and tell them that they should spend less on their addiction and control their habits. See where this leads you Wink

We all know how we should quit and addicts know it too, but they are unable to due to the weakness of character.

But its not bad trying to throw the advice outside maybe some of the addicts can still grow a mind from the constant advice given that can help them withstand this habit of theirs and moreover I have seen someone who have discipline himself to actually reduce his gambling act because of the huge losses and problems he had to encounter.

I agree with you,an addicted gambler can leave his addiction or limit it when gambling has taken away something great from him,if not he wouldn't quit gambling. Some people after much advise from friends and family they can consider quitting gambling

Most gamblers quits gambling,when they have made up their minds to quit or have issues with their loved ones based on their gambling activities,which becomes a threat to them or they feel insecure with it. There is one man that I met some days ago that was complaining to me that his wife wants to divorce him, if his doesn't stop gamble. When I asked him what are his intention, he said he has no other option than to quit gamble.

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Quote from: Rabata on July 16, 2023, 07:46:16 AM

Quote from: pakhitheboss on July 16, 2023, 05:14:09 AM

Quote from: Mr.suevie on July 16, 2023, 04:39:14 AM

But its not bad trying to throw the advice outside maybe some of the addicts can still grow a mind from the constant advice given that can help them withstand this habit of theirs and moreover I have seen someone who have discipline himself to actually reduce his gambling act because of the huge losses and problems he had to encounter.

I think every gambler should follow the OP advice and it will surely work. As those advice have been recommended by everyone one on this board with numerous thread. Some active members have been able to get results from those points.

I also agree with OP's advice. The first thing anyone who wants to get rid of addiction they should spend less time in casinos. If a gambler does not spend much time in casinos or gambling platforms then he will not become an addicted gambler. A gambler should not gamble beyond a certain amount of money if he does not want to become an addicted gambler. A gambler tries to choose a gambling platform to earn more money, his chances of becoming addicted to gambling will increase. If someone follow the above mentioned points by op, addicted to gambling will be reduced to a great extent.

Ordinary gamblers who are not addicted, they usually have responsibility for their bets and have other activities that keep them busy without having time to visit gambling all the time, such as working in a company and having other side jobs.
With this the risk of addiction will be smaller because they don't have time to think about gambling and usually they have a responsibility when appreciating what they have like money that is very concerned about.
Perhaps reducing worldwide addiction may be difficult but with self-awareness and wise thinking it will be better.

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Quote from: Mr.suevie on July 16, 2023, 04:39:14 AM

But its not bad trying to throw the advice outside maybe some of the addicts can still grow a mind from the constant advice given that can help them withstand this habit of theirs and moreover I have seen someone who have discipline himself to actually reduce his gambling act because of the huge losses and problems he had to encounter.

Also we friends and family of gambling addicts on the forum that'll be reading the advices been posted on the forum and it might be helpful to them as they follow our advices and guide their addicted ones to recover, and those that are getting addicted can take precautions.

We don't know anyone that's addicted here and those who are addicted won't admit it publicly because of the stereotypes that'll follow them if they admit it so they will prefer to stay anonymous and advises like this can help them during their journey of getting cleaned of addiction.

For anyone who's addicted reading this message, seeking professional help is the best way to treat yourself, don't stay silent or be ashamed of the fact that you have an addiction problem. Open up and people around you like your family and friends will help you fight the addiction.

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Don't you think it all depends on individuals?
Whom ever that wants to control himself or herself from being an addict would surely do that because what I fully understand most from people is that they centered their mind on always winning without knowing that alone have brought them selves down to constantly keep losing while gambling. At point of continuing to gamble and chasing lost is what usually attracts being an addict. We should try to reduce our focus and efforts and whomever that can adhered to it would surely know how to control himself or themselves in terms of gambling addiction.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on July 16, 2023, 05:14:09 AM

Quote from: Mr.suevie on July 16, 2023, 04:39:14 AM

But its not bad trying to throw the advice outside maybe some of the addicts can still grow a mind from the constant advice given that can help them withstand this habit of theirs and moreover I have seen someone who have discipline himself to actually reduce his gambling act because of the huge losses and problems he had to encounter.

I think every gambler should follow the OP advice and it will surely work. As those advice have been recommended by everyone one on this board with numerous thread. Some active members have been able to get results from those points.

I also agree with OP's advice. The first thing anyone who wants to get rid of addiction they should spend less time in casinos. If a gambler does not spend much time in casinos or gambling platforms then he will not become an addicted gambler. A gambler should not gamble beyond a certain amount of money if he does not want to become an addicted gambler. A gambler tries to choose a gambling platform to earn more money, his chances of becoming addicted to gambling will increase. If someone follow the above mentioned points by op, addicted to gambling will be reduced to a great extent.

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Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on July 14, 2023, 02:45:05 AM

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The tips are really valuable and capacious. And the first advice immediately makes it clear that the list is compiled by good specialists, since they always advise to face your addiction problem.
Is it possible to treat a person who does not recognize his addiction?
No.
Only if a person knows about his problem will he be able to see progress during treatment. I also liked the advice that you need to contact your family or friends. If you are alone, then you are weak. But not everyone has the opportunity to find help from relatives, then you should contact groups.

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Quote from: slapper on July 15, 2023, 10:10:32 AM

Quote from: maydna on July 15, 2023, 09:10:34 AM

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It's scary how fast a fun activity can become an addiction. Winning can be addictive, like a sweet taste. As with any addiction, the results are severe and ugly. You mentioned self-control, which is vital. Set limitations and follow them. If you're losing control, a leisurely departure is appropriate. Remember that asking for help is powerful, not weak. Ask for help when things get tough - there are various support networks.

It seems that winning or losing can be so addicting that we will return to the casino to recover losses or get another win. But if a person has good self-control, he will not be tempted to return to the casino for whatever reason. And when they return to the casino, they always set boundaries, so they are addicted to returning to the casino. When a person feels that he is thinking a lot about gambling, perhaps he can confide in someone he trusts and ask for help to distract him from thinking about gambling. And it is normal to ask for help from others because we really need it.

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Quote from: Mr.suevie on July 16, 2023, 04:39:14 AM

But its not bad trying to throw the advice outside maybe some of the addicts can still grow a mind from the constant advice given that can help them withstand this habit of theirs and moreover I have seen someone who have discipline himself to actually reduce his gambling act because of the huge losses and problems he had to encounter.

Every addicts believes that he is not addicted so asking only the addict to follow the advice doesn't work. I think every gambler should follow the OP advice and it will surely work. As those advice have been recommended by everyone one on this board with numerous thread. Some active members have been able to get results from those points.

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Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on July 14, 2023, 02:45:05 AM

1. Only set aside an amount of money that you will use to gamble in a casino.

The most important rule in gambling often defied by most addicted gamblers, I only fund my betting account with small amount of money, once I lost or lose those funds that is done for the week consequently quit gambling for the week despite having other funds that can be used to refund my account.

Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on July 14, 2023, 02:45:05 AM

2. Don't think that you will gamble to make money, because if you do that, you will surely have a problem later.

I disagree with this point because I absolutely believe I can make money from gambling but not that I am expecting a huge amount of money to be won because I only gamble with small amount of money with small odd with regards to soccer betting and I believe money earned through that means serve as extra income.

Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on July 14, 2023, 02:45:05 AM

3. Just spend a few hours staying in a casino to gamble so you can avoid what you don't realize is wasting time that you should be spending on important things instead of gambling.

I don't visit Casinos to bet rather I use my phone App to place my bets though I have to do some pre-match analysis and read pundits analysis of matches before placing my own bet though this won't take more than one hour of my time thus I don't think that is a waste of time

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Quote from: darkangel11 on July 15, 2023, 09:42:36 AM

This isn't a bad advice, although, from my experience, telling people to seek help and control themselves when they're addicted is throwing words to the wind.
Have you ever known any drug addicts, or alcoholics? Go to them and tell them that they should spend less on their addiction and control their habits. See where this leads you Wink

We all know how we should quit and addicts know it too, but they are unable to due to the weakness of character.

But its not bad trying to throw the advice outside maybe some of the addicts can still grow a mind from the constant advice given that can help them withstand this habit of theirs and moreover I have seen someone who have discipline himself to actually reduce his gambling act because of the huge losses and problems he had to encounter.

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Most of gambling addict didn't know if they have a problem over their gambling habit, rather than self diagnose, it's better for the gambler to seek a professional when someone e.g. wife or parent often ask to stop gambling.

Quote from: bettercrypto on July 16, 2023, 03:39:07 AM

At this point you are right, because it is still different to actually ask the person who is addicted to gambling. Although the advice mentioned by op is correct, maybe when he just said the word "Quit" he should have put "Prevent or Avoid".

Yeah, there's no need to quit from gambling if a gambler know how to control themselves and not for making money. Advising someone to quit gambling isn't good, @OP isn't even my parent or someone that can control my life.

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Quote from: darkangel11 on July 15, 2023, 09:42:36 AM

This isn't a bad advice, although, from my experience, telling people to seek help and control themselves when they're addicted is throwing words to the wind.
Have you ever known any drug addicts, or alcoholics? Go to them and tell them that they should spend less on their addiction and control their habits. See where this leads you Wink

We all know how we should quit and addicts know it too, but they are unable to due to the weakness of character.

At this point you are right, because it is still different to actually ask the person who is addicted to gambling. Although the advice mentioned by op is correct, maybe when he just said the word "Quit" he should have put "Prevent or Avoid".

But all in all, I don't see anything wrong with the opinions he said, in fact, there is truth in what he said.

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Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on July 14, 2023, 02:45:05 AM

Things we must do to stop gambling according to experts:

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1. Recognize the problem
2. Remove the stigma
3. Confide in a love one
4. Seek professional health
5. Adjust as needed

Source: https://www.forbes.com/health/mind/how-to-stop-gambling-expert-advice/

Now, if you still want to gamble but you don't want to become addicted to it, one of the things you should do in my opinion is:

1. Only set aside an amount of money that you will use to gamble in a casino.
2. Don't think that you will gamble to make money, because if you do that, you will surely have a problem later.
3. Just spend a few hours staying in a casino to gamble so you can avoid what you don't realize is wasting time that you should be spending on important things instead of gambling.

Absolutely mate this is must to do if we don't want to be addicted in gambling and the main thing here is Gambling is for fun which is we can keep playing in casino as long as we have enough money to to play and also like what you said above it's better to have the mindset that we must play for fun and not for profit because once we aim more profit then the more we get loss because in gambling the results is unpredictable.

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