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Quote from: Haunebu on July 15, 2023, 05:22:26 AM

The biggest factor that op failed to mention is willpower. If you are someone with strong willpower, you will definitely overcome gambling addiction no matter what based on my research.

However, if you are someone with weak willpower, it will be very, very difficult to overcome such addictions though it isn't impossible or anything.

The will power is truly an important factor in continuing to letting go of an addiction, but still those people who in spite of having enough will power won't be able to let go of he gambling addiction because they are somehow wired in a way that gambling is the only possible entertainment in their lives. The people who play online multiplayer games often have same levels of addictions like those gamblers and they are also not able to give up on their gameplays even if their will power is strong.

I think your relations matter more than your will power to let go of an addiction. If someone that you truly love in your life makes you emotional in a way that his/her words touch the inner core of your heart which really makes you feel that you're not doing a good thing, and because of that your loved one is getting hurt. Only that emotion can stop some addict to give up on the addiction otherwise, addicted people will never let go of their addictions.

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Someone who is already addicted basically cannot remove the stigma or acknowledge that they have got themselves into a problem and they need to get out of it, and these are the kinds of people who actually need professional help because they can't get out of it themselves and they need an expert guiding them out of it, a close friend or family member might try doing that first but if they fail, they will definitely need someone to help them professionally.

Your points are correct that a person won't get addicted if they have a limit on everything including their gambling budget and the time they spend gambling, if they can do that successfully, they won't get addicted to gambling and can stop gambling anytime if they want to, otherwise, they can keep gambling since it's harmless for them.

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The biggest factor that op failed to mention is willpower. If you are someone with strong willpower, you will definitely overcome gambling addiction no matter what based on my research.

However, if you are someone with weak willpower, it will be very, very difficult to overcome such addictions though it isn't impossible or anything.

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Quote from: Mauser on July 15, 2023, 03:41:16 AM

Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on July 14, 2023, 03:45:05 AM

Now, if you still want to gamble but you don't want to become addicted to it, one of the things you should do in my opinion is:

1. Only set aside an amount of money that you will use to gamble in a casino.
2. Don't think that you will gamble to make money, because if you do that, you will surely have a problem later.
3. Just spend a few hours staying in a casino to gamble so you can avoid what you don't realize is wasting time that you should be spending on important things instead of gambling.

In my opinion the most important thing is to look at gambling as a form of entertainment and nothing else. We can't look at gambling as a job that provides us with a steady income, it's not realistic and will only lead to losses if we want to rely on it. As soon as we see gambling as entertainment the whole aspect of wasting time or losing money becomes obsolete. Paying for entertainment is normal, we should compare a night at the casino gamble with going out with friends to a bar. We spend a lot of money for alcohol and have a hangover on the next. Or going to the movies where we buy overpriced snacks and might not even like the film in the end. Whatever we do with our time and money, it will go somewhere. The main advantage of gambling is that we can be lucky one day and make a big profit when winning the jackpot. The next important thing when it comes to gambling is to be realistic with ourself and to not lie. Once we fall in the habit of wishful thinking and try to make the reality seem better than it is we are more likely to become addicted to gambling. Our brain will try to play tricks on us and keep us engaged in gambling, it's important that we have a clear head and look rational and objectively at money related things.

This is just a mind game. We go to picnic, we spend money on entertainment, we spend money on movies & food and after enjoying we never regret that we have spent our money. I understand that most people think of Online gambling as a money making thing and not entertainment.

However, I see people going with friends to physical casinos in order to gamble and have fun but they came out sad if they have lost in gambling. Why is it so? Why the fun in gambling is associated with win in gambling? Why people do not think that they are spending money in gambling for fun and not for earning money only?

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Quote from: Docnaster on July 15, 2023, 04:34:13 AM

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Quote from: worle1bm on July 15, 2023, 02:55:40 AM

Also we need to control our emotions that makes us bet more and loose money.When we are losing continuously taking short breaks to revive yourself and boost up with some money can help a lot as mind is not addicted to it for wagering aggressively that is bad.So we should take necessary steps beforehand if we want to avoid any problems later on.

Anyone who addicted in gambling will not control it self not to participating in gambling platform, sometimes what makes some people not to gamble any alonger is when they have no money to participate in gambling, with that alone I think that is what matters enough what is the real thing concerning gambling, some people planned their gambling expenses but what make people feel as if gambling is bad is that they stake amount of money they can not forget when they loses money,

If a gambling addict does not have money, it is even the worse of it. It is better they have their own money and keep wasting it in gambling. If they don't have money, the following things happens;

They will begin to borrow to gamble, which is the worse of it. In the end they will be battling both addiction ans debt.
They will begin to sell their properties to gamble and those properties will be sold at the lowest prices.

So, the best thing is for the gambling addicts to always have their own money and bet with it.

I think you are getting it wrong here, if a gambling addict does not have and he realised how he has be losing money throughout the week it will not prompt him to borrow and and stake because he knew that gambling is of two side, losing and gaining, so using borrowed can accumulate your debt and you won't be comfortable, so that is why many gamblers like to hustle out money by their self to stake money instead of borrowing, were people do borrow and stake is in bitcoin investment not in gambling

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Quote from: Onyeeze on July 15, 2023, 03:35:05 AM

Quote from: worle1bm on July 15, 2023, 02:55:40 AM

Also we need to control our emotions that makes us bet more and loose money.When we are losing continuously taking short breaks to revive yourself and boost up with some money can help a lot as mind is not addicted to it for wagering aggressively that is bad.So we should take necessary steps beforehand if we want to avoid any problems later on.

Anyone who addicted in gambling will not control it self not to participating in gambling platform, sometimes what makes some people not to gamble any alonger is when they have no money to participate in gambling, with that alone I think that is what matters enough what is the real thing concerning gambling, some people planned their gambling expenses but what make people feel as if gambling is bad is that they stake amount of money they can not forget when they loses money,

If a gambling addict does not have money, it is even the worse of it. It is better they have their own money and keep wasting it in gambling. If they don't have money, the following things happens;

They will begin to borrow to gamble, which is the worse of it. In the end they will be battling both addiction ans debt.
They will begin to sell their properties to gamble and those properties will be sold at the lowest prices.

So, the best thing is for the gambling addicts to always have their own money and bet with it.

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Quote from: Mauser on July 15, 2023, 03:41:16 AM

Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on July 14, 2023, 03:45:05 AM

Now, if you still want to gamble but you don't want to become addicted to it, one of the things you should do in my opinion is:

1. Only set aside an amount of money that you will use to gamble in a casino.
2. Don't think that you will gamble to make money, because if you do that, you will surely have a problem later.
3. Just spend a few hours staying in a casino to gamble so you can avoid what you don't realize is wasting time that you should be spending on important things instead of gambling.

In my opinion the most important thing is to look at gambling as a form of entertainment and nothing else. We can't look at gambling as a job that provides us with a steady income, it's not realistic and will only lead to losses if we want to rely on it. As soon as we see gambling as entertainment the whole aspect of wasting time or losing money becomes obsolete. Paying for entertainment is normal, we should compare a night at the casino gamble with going out with friends to a bar. We spend a lot of money for alcohol and have a hangover on the next. Or going to the movies where we buy overpriced snacks and might not even like the film in the end. Whatever we do with our time and money, it will go somewhere. The main advantage of gambling is that we can be lucky one day and make a big profit when winning the jackpot. The next important thing when it comes to gambling is to be realistic with ourself and to not lie. Once we fall in the habit of wishful thinking and try to make the reality seem better than it is we are more likely to become addicted to gambling. Our brain will try to play tricks on us and keep us engaged in gambling, it's important that we have a clear head and look rational and objectively at money related things.

Please let me don my judge's wig and offer you some harsh advise. Your viewpoint contrasts well. On one side, you're emphasizing the most crucial point: gaming should be fun, not a business. That's great! But comparing gaming to going to a pub or the cinema with pals is like comparing apples to elephants. Friendships cost time and money. We're connecting. We buy more than popcorn at the movies - we buy an experience, a tale, and a way to escape. Gambling provides no long-term rewards, only short-term thrills. Winning the huge prize is feasible, but unlikely. Finally, I want to emphasize your idea that we should be practical and not wishful thinking. Gamblers should never let the casino's bright lights impair their judgment.

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Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on July 14, 2023, 03:45:05 AM

Now, if you still want to gamble but you don't want to become addicted to it, one of the things you should do in my opinion is:

1. Only set aside an amount of money that you will use to gamble in a casino.
2. Don't think that you will gamble to make money, because if you do that, you will surely have a problem later.
3. Just spend a few hours staying in a casino to gamble so you can avoid what you don't realize is wasting time that you should be spending on important things instead of gambling.

In my opinion the most important thing is to look at gambling as a form of entertainment and nothing else. We can't look at gambling as a job that provides us with a steady income, it's not realistic and will only lead to losses if we want to rely on it. As soon as we see gambling as entertainment the whole aspect of wasting time or losing money becomes obsolete. Paying for entertainment is normal, we should compare a night at the casino gamble with going out with friends to a bar. We spend a lot of money for alcohol and have a hangover on the next. Or going to the movies where we buy overpriced snacks and might not even like the film in the end. Whatever we do with our time and money, it will go somewhere. The main advantage of gambling is that we can be lucky one day and make a big profit when winning the jackpot. The next important thing when it comes to gambling is to be realistic with ourself and to not lie. Once we fall in the habit of wishful thinking and try to make the reality seem better than it is we are more likely to become addicted to gambling. Our brain will try to play tricks on us and keep us engaged in gambling, it's important that we have a clear head and look rational and objectively at money related things.

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Quote from: worle1bm on July 15, 2023, 02:55:40 AM

Also we need to control our emotions that makes us bet more and loose money.When we are losing continuously taking short breaks to revive yourself and boost up with some money can help a lot as mind is not addicted to it for wagering aggressively that is bad.So we should take necessary steps beforehand if we want to avoid any problems later on.

Anyone who addicted in gambling will not control it self not to participating in gambling platform, sometimes what makes some people not to gamble any alonger is when they have no money to participate in gambling, with that alone I think that is what matters enough what is the real thing concerning gambling, some people planned their gambling expenses but what make people feel as if gambling is bad is that they stake amount of money they can not forget when they loses money,

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Also we need to control our emotions that makes us bet more and loose money.When we are losing continuously taking short breaks to revive yourself and boost up with some money can help a lot as mind is not addicted to it for wagering aggressively that is bad.So we should take necessary steps beforehand if we want to avoid any problems later on.

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Quote from: Reatim on July 14, 2023, 11:00:34 PM

Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on July 14, 2023, 03:45:05 AM

Things we must do to stop gambling according to experts:

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1. Recognize the problem
2. Remove the stigma
3. Confide in a love one
4. Seek professional health
5. Adjust as needed

Source: https://www.forbes.com/health/mind/how-to-stop-gambling-expert-advice/

Now, if you still want to gamble but you don't want to become addicted to it, one of the things you should do in my opinion is:

1. Only set aside an amount of money that you will use to gamble in a casino.
2. Don't think that you will gamble to make money, because if you do that, you will surely have a problem later.
3. Just spend a few hours staying in a casino to gamble so you can avoid what you don't realize is wasting time that you should be spending on important things instead of gambling.

but do you really wanted to quit gambling? or you just wanna control and have time to stand the table once you have lost enough capital?
this is the difference between addicted and normal gambler.
so never advise people to quit when they are just enjoying .
respect to their decision and let them qualify to what they wanna attain in this gambling.

That's what we have to ask ourselves. We can stop if we want and we can also continue gambling if we want. And there is no reason for us to want to stop. There is only whether we want to or not. Or we can control the time and money we spend on gambling so we don't become addicted. It's enough for us to control ourselves so we don't cross that line and for the rest, let people live it on their own. And while people still enjoy gambling, we must not force our will to stop because it is our responsibility. But when they ask for our help to stop, we do our best to help them stop gambling.

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Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on July 14, 2023, 03:45:05 AM

Now, if you still want to gamble but you don't want to become addicted to it, one of the things you should do in my opinion is:

1. Only set aside an amount of money that you will use to gamble in a casino.
2. Don't think that you will gamble to make money, because if you do that, you will surely have a problem later.
3. Just spend a few hours staying in a casino to gamble so you can avoid what you don't realize is wasting time that you should be spending on important things instead of gambling.

¹Most gamblers do it before they start gambling but most of the time they exceed what they have set in the process. ²Isn't it natural if gamblers want to make money from their gambling activity? I think it is natural, as long as gamblers can control themselves, they wont get addicted regardless what is their main reason for it. Even if some gamblers claim that they are gambling for entertainment only, they may get addicted with the fun and eventually it will lead to worse condition. ³ If the main purpose is to avoid waste of time, anyone should gamble in their free time such as in the weekend when they have no other tasks to do in real life.

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Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on July 14, 2023, 03:45:05 AM

Things we must do to stop gambling according to experts:

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1. Recognize the problem
2. Remove the stigma
3. Confide in a love one
4. Seek professional health
5. Adjust as needed

Source: https://www.forbes.com/health/mind/how-to-stop-gambling-expert-advice/

Now, if you still want to gamble but you don't want to become addicted to it, one of the things you should do in my opinion is:

1. Only set aside an amount of money that you will use to gamble in a casino.
2. Don't think that you will gamble to make money, because if you do that, you will surely have a problem later.
3. Just spend a few hours staying in a casino to gamble so you can avoid what you don't realize is wasting time that you should be spending on important things instead of gambling.

are you referring to every gambler ? or just wanna tell your self about how you will quit this area of spending and risking money because the way you put those advises shows how you are desperate in quitting and just wanted to share to others.
I have did those in the past specially confiding to my love one , and adjusting my needed so there will be small amount to be for gambling and if that will lose then it wont affect our daily living not like in the past that I keep losing even the budget for important needs.

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Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on July 14, 2023, 03:45:05 AM

Things we must do to stop gambling according to experts:

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1. Recognize the problem
2. Remove the stigma
3. Confide in a love one
4. Seek professional health
5. Adjust as needed

Source: https://www.forbes.com/health/mind/how-to-stop-gambling-expert-advice/

Now, if you still want to gamble but you don't want to become addicted to it, one of the things you should do in my opinion is:

1. Only set aside an amount of money that you will use to gamble in a casino.
2. Don't think that you will gamble to make money, because if you do that, you will surely have a problem later.
3. Just spend a few hours staying in a casino to gamble so you can avoid what you don't realize is wasting time that you should be spending on important things instead of gambling.

The problem is that these last 3 points are rational plans that the problem gambler breaks compulsively. These points are for people who have no problem helping to play responsibly. But for people who already have a problem I think there are two essential points you have touched on: seeking help from someone you trust and/or a professional, and not only recognising the problem as you have said, which is an important point, but also making a strong decision to end it.

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Quote from: xSkylarx on July 14, 2023, 08:22:10 PM

Without proper discipline, it is still useless because we are still on our own. No matter what advice we give to the gambler, if he is not disciplined, then he will still gamble. The problem with a gambler is thathe would say that he would just spend 1 hour at the casino, but later on he will break it and spend more time and also overspend the allotted budget. If we have self-control and discipline, for sure we can follow it, but not that is where the problem starts.

Discipline is also influenced by the gambler himself, if he is a typical person who does not care about anything and only does what he likes without thinking about the long effects, then he will not be able to stop independently.

He needs some advice and assistance from others so that he does not become a gambling addict because he does not stop at all.

Wanting to spend 1 hour, but in fact up to hours at the gambling table.
There is no self-control so everything will run uncontrolled.

Chasing bets to get a win, but in fact, he only spends money without giving a commensurate win. Losing dozens of times, winning only 2-3 times.
There is no good return when becoming a gambling addict.
Everything must be set correctly and there must be limits so as not to become too addictive.

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Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on July 14, 2023, 03:45:05 AM

Things we must do to stop gambling according to experts:

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1. Recognize the problem
2. Remove the stigma
3. Confide in a love one
4. Seek professional health
5. Adjust as needed

Source: https://www.forbes.com/health/mind/how-to-stop-gambling-expert-advice/

Now, if you still want to gamble but you don't want to become addicted to it, one of the things you should do in my opinion is:

1. Only set aside an amount of money that you will use to gamble in a casino.
2. Don't think that you will gamble to make money, because if you do that, you will surely have a problem later.
3. Just spend a few hours staying in a casino to gamble so you can avoid what you don't realize is wasting time that you should be spending on important things instead of gambling.

but do you really wanted to quit gambling? or you just wanna control and have time to stand the table once you have lost enough capital?
this is the difference between addicted and normal gambler.
so never advise people to quit when they are just enjoying .
respect to their decision and let them qualify to what they wanna attain in this gambling.

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Quote from: jrrsparkles on July 14, 2023, 03:52:36 AM

Apart from the gambling budget it is also important to allocate a limited amount of time for your gambling activities. By setting a time limit, you can ensure that you don't spend excessive amounts of time gambling and prioritize other important aspects of your life.

Also Avoid chasing losses cause it is the beginning stage of getting addicted to gambling and Don't Use Gambling as an Escape from any of your problems especially when it related to your financial status.

This is the main problem of every gamblers who got addicted because once they loss they will chasing to win even though how many times they will loss they are keeping on betting because they are aiming that their loss will be recovered. And without knowing they are keep losing money because when they are keep betting the probability or the chance of winning are too small. So it's better to have the mindset that when we are losing a good amount of money we will stop and play again in another day.

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Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on July 14, 2023, 03:45:05 AM

Things we must do to stop gambling according to experts:

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1. Recognize the problem
2. Remove the stigma
3. Confide in a love one
4. Seek professional health
5. Adjust as needed

Source: https://www.forbes.com/health/mind/how-to-stop-gambling-expert-advice/

you forgot to add "Join Support Groups and 12-Step Programs" Support groups and support from the community are extremely important if you are going through something like battling an addiction(i.e. gambling addiction). As said in the article, being able to connect or relate with others who struggle with addiction is a great way to know that you are not alone in your struggle because of the support of the community and that freedom from addiction is possible.

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Without proper discipline, it is still useless because we are still on our own. No matter what advice we give to the gambler, if he is not disciplined, then he will still gamble. The problem with a gambler is thathe would say that he would just spend 1 hour at the casino, but later on he will break it and spend more time and also overspend the allotted budget. If we have self-control and discipline, for sure we can follow it, but not that is where the problem starts.

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Quote from: BitDane on July 14, 2023, 07:58:15 AM

It is really interesting to know that there are people giving their side of thoughts in order to give gamblers advice when they are having difficulty to prevent themselves from gambling. Though I would say it always ends up on the personal discipline and self control, these few advises can make people thinks another means or reason for them to stop gambling and if they failed to, the latter advise of keeping oneself loses to minimum is also a good alternative option.

Just because someone don't have what it takes to stop, does not means they don't know what it takes to stop.

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