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Quote from: lienfaye on July 15, 2023, 11:20:00 PM

This can be prevented if from the start we're aware of what to expect and our main desire is to have fun and not to double our money. Because if you let yourself uncontrolled, it's already hard to overcome such situation. So you need to follow what the experts says to stop the addiction.

Let's be honest here. Very few people can control themselves while gambling due to the insane temptation to keep earning more or chasing their losses. It's very, very difficult to resist such temptations practically.

The ones who can resist those temptations either earn a lot or just have fun based on my research.

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There's nothing wrong if you want to gamble. However you should know the risk and the consequences of using your money in gambling. The problem is, many of us are not prepared for the outcome and tend to regret that we gamble our money resulting to losses. Then it's the start of the thoughts of trying to chase what we lost, becoming uncontrolled and spending most of the time playing that led to addiction.

This can be prevented if from the start we're aware of what to expect and our main desire is to have fun and not to double our money. Because if you let yourself uncontrolled, it's already hard to overcome such situation. So you need to follow what the experts says to stop the addiction.

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From experts view those are the required elements to stay away from gambling. With the realtime things might vary. My experience on gambling have taught me, understand gambling, not to get greedy, never go behind the losses. If your mind have started to go behind losses, then you be sure that you're on the wrong track. Anytime the gambling could kill your funds. Prepare your mind to accept loss and take a break than chasing loss.

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Thanks to the experts who gave those tips, but according to my experience, your ability to stop gambling depends on whether you are a new gambler and are playing fir fun or you are an addict who can't control himself.
If you are an addict then nothing of the advices you have provided would help except seeking professional help.
Addicts can't even recognize that they are have addiction problems. They need someone to support them and tell them what they need to do.

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Quote from: darkangel11 on July 15, 2023, 10:42:36 AM

This isn't a bad advice, although, from my experience, telling people to seek help and control themselves when they're addicted is throwing words to the wind.

I think this depends on the person addicted. If the person has no intention of fixing himself then I agree that all our suggestions will just get ignored. But if the person is willing to change but does not know how to make his first step then it is more likely that this person will listen if we give him and advice on how to recover from gambling addiction.

Quote from: darkangel11 on July 15, 2023, 10:42:36 AM

We all know how we should quit and addicts know it too, but they are unable to due to the weakness of character.

It is the denial that prevents them to quit and get cured.

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Quote from: Youngkhngdiddy on July 15, 2023, 01:14:51 PM

Quote from: Nrcewker on July 14, 2023, 05:12:54 AM

Gambling becomes addictive for those who have plenty of money. A middle-class man only gambles in order to earn some extra income. If he becomes addicted and keeps on losing, then definitely a point will come when he won’t have enough funds to gamble further, and automatically his addiction will also get over. Yes, the points mentioned in the OP are good, but some gamblers will deny following them. Gambling addiction is seen only in rich people. For them, gambling is like winning. For them, the money doesn’t matter. I would suggest everyone gamble only within their limits.

Being an addict in gambling does not only affects a only a particular class, it can happen to anyone whether the rich, middle class or even poor people, the urge to bet more can occurs when the middle class keep losing and in a quest to recover there lose they end up finding it hard to quit when they've not been able to achieve their aim and I've seen cases where people run out of cash and borrow money to stake on games and recover what they lost so if gamblimg addiction only happen to rich people like you've said most poor or middle class people won't take loans to gamble when they run out of cash, some even go to the extent of wagering their valuable items or properties which is not considered a good idea and very risky.

However having access to more money could fast track the addiction of gambling, but doesn't mean it can only happen to the rich because of that cause there are other issues like depression, over confidence of winning, and sometimes even family background, because a child born in a society or family where they take gambling as a hobby might end up becoming an addicted gambler when he/she grow up.

There's no exemption when it comes to those people who would really be affected with gambling addiction on which it is true that even if you are rich or poor,there's always a tendency that you would really be able to

get addicted if you arent really that good on handling yourself when it comes to gambling then you should really be avoiding it on the first place but on the time that you do find yourself get addicted then
it would really be a huge problem but quitting wont really be that much of a problem if you are really that kind of person who do have that good self control and discipline towards self.
Gambling isnt bad as long you do know your limits and as long you do know that it is really just that for fun and you are spending on the amount which you can afford to lose.

It is really just that important that you should really be not going into your limits or border line when it comes to spending because this is where people usually fail on doing so.

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What I would suggest, and this is coming from a former gambling addict, is to actually stop when you're already contemplating whether you should carry on with your gambling routine or stop it completely. 9 times out of 10 it would always be because you're either exhausted with the gambling setup you're in and you need to take a breather, or you're already discovering certain signs of gambling addiction and these glimpses are giving you some sort of cognitive dissonance, either way the best thing to do is to not actually contemplate a plan which would only lead you to gamble further, but to take a second to think about it, stop gambling for a while, and only come back when you're positive you've already gone past that hurdle.

It's better to quit than to think and be trapped, Gambling isn't something you should just dilly-dally around cause it chips away at your mental with every loss no matter how much you tell me you're only gambling for fun, actually meditating upon your current situation will help even more than thinking about how to go about your next gambling session.

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Quote from: topbitcoin on July 15, 2023, 11:28:55 AM

I think I've been feeling addicted lately, and yes why should I be afraid to get addicted when you have money to gamble with, sometimes in bad situations you just need to distract yourself from this cruel world and play with me.

It is that conception of using it as a way of distraction that leads to addictive tendency while you feed your thinking that it is a way of distraction it is growing rather as a harmful habit on the other way round.
There are multiple healthy activities to engage into for distraction and whiling away of time than using gambling.

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Quote from: Nrcewker on July 14, 2023, 05:12:54 AM

Gambling becomes addictive for those who have plenty of money. A middle-class man only gambles in order to earn some extra income. If he becomes addicted and keeps on losing, then definitely a point will come when he won’t have enough funds to gamble further, and automatically his addiction will also get over. Yes, the points mentioned in the OP are good, but some gamblers will deny following them. Gambling addiction is seen only in rich people. For them, gambling is like winning. For them, the money doesn’t matter. I would suggest everyone gamble only within their limits.

Being an addict in gambling does not only affects a particular class, it can happen to anyone whether the rich, middle class or even poor people, the urge to bet more can occurs when the middle class keep losing and in a quest to recover there lose they end up finding it hard to quit when they've not been able to achieve their aim and I've seen cases where people run out of cash and borrow money to stake on games and recover what they lost so if gamblimg addiction only happen to rich people like you've said most poor or middle class people won't take loans to gamble when they run out of cash, some even go to the extent of wagering their valuable items or properties which is not considered a good idea and very risky.

However having access to more money could fast track the addiction of gambling, but doesn't mean it can only happen to the rich because of that cause there are other issues like depression, over confidence of winning, and sometimes even family background, because a child born in a society or family where they take gambling as a hobby might end up becoming an addicted gambler when he/she grow up.

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Quote from: SamReomo on July 15, 2023, 06:35:29 AM

I think your relations matter more than your will power to let go of an addiction. If someone that you truly love in your life makes you emotional in a way that his/her words touch the inner core of your heart which really makes you feel that you're not doing a good thing, and because of that your loved one is getting hurt. Only that emotion can stop some addict to give up on the addiction otherwise, addicted people will never let go of their addictions.

Emotional support does help for sure, but it can't cure your gambling addiction unless you are willing to fight it first which is why willpower is the most important factor in this case if you ask me.

As they say, your greatest rival in life is you yourself which is why you should constantly fight yourself in order to improve.

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Quote from: Lida93 on July 15, 2023, 08:17:38 AM

I strongly agree with you on this. It's easier for people to go on dropping lots of different suggestions on how to quit as an addict. I presume they will get to know better when they find themselves in the shoes of extreme addiction there then they will come to a realization that it's not as easy as they make it look. Addiction is parallel to hunger, when hunger comes you don't feel comfortable and settled till you satisfy your hunger by feeding same with gambling addiction, it takes divine intervention to eliminate it. That's why we're advised to flee from falling victim cause the repercussion effect is better imagined than experienced.

But not many people find themselves already experiencing a gambling addiction. And indeed, addiction is like a hunger that asks us to satisfy that feeling, and only by gambling we will feel that satisfaction. And so that we don't experience the same thing, we must continue to practice good self-control because that's the only thing that can prevent us from experiencing gambling addiction. And before it's too late, we can check ourselves while playing gambling, and if we find signs of addiction, we can reduce it slowly so we don't get addicted.

It's scary how fast a fun activity can become an addiction. Winning can be addictive, like a sweet taste. As with any addiction, the results are severe and ugly. You mentioned self-control, which is vital. Set limitations and follow them. If you're losing control, a leisurely departure is appropriate. Remember that asking for help is powerful, not weak. Ask for help when things get tough - there are various support networks.

Winning in gambling is a great pleasure but losing in gambling is a painful thing. So while everyone can celebrate winning at gambling with a smile, losing at gambling cannot be accepted very easily. And he who can control himself even in loss cannot be addicted to gambling in its deep addiction. and he can quit gambling at any time when he/she want. Because he has complete confidence in himself and can control himself in all situations. this can be said to be one of his great qualities

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I think I've been feeling addicted lately, and yes why should I be afraid to get addicted when you have money to gamble with, sometimes in bad situations you just need to distract yourself from this cruel world and play with me.

But your suggestion OP is a suggestion that needs to be taken by people who want to quit or are afraid of being a gambling addict, it's quite good, and I don't reject it, I will probably do it next time if I want to quit, thanks for the formula.
But remember, if you want to gamble but are afraid of killing your finances, then plan your bets well, and you should never keep money in your wallet if you think you can spend it if you lose your mind.

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Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on July 14, 2023, 03:45:05 AM

2. Don't think that you will gamble to make money, because if you do that, you will surely have a problem later.

With this, despite you remind people many times to gamble only for fun. This is hard to get removed.

Everyone wants to gamble with the reward and get as much wins as we can. That's why having the mindset that you're only gambling for fun is just a thought for the many yet, many don't follow that.

Your emotion and mind will be changed when you're in the actual already. And when you win a few times, you'll get that positive thinking that the house is beatable and you're in luck.

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Quote from: maydna on July 15, 2023, 10:10:34 AM

Quote from: Lida93 on July 15, 2023, 08:17:38 AM

I strongly agree with you on this. It's easier for people to go on dropping lots of different suggestions on how to quit as an addict. I presume they will get to know better when they find themselves in the shoes of extreme addiction there then they will come to a realization that it's not as easy as they make it look. Addiction is parallel to hunger, when hunger comes you don't feel comfortable and settled till you satisfy your hunger by feeding same with gambling addiction, it takes divine intervention to eliminate it. That's why we're advised to flee from falling victim cause the repercussion effect is better imagined than experienced.

But not many people find themselves already experiencing a gambling addiction. And indeed, addiction is like a hunger that asks us to satisfy that feeling, and only by gambling we will feel that satisfaction. And so that we don't experience the same thing, we must continue to practice good self-control because that's the only thing that can prevent us from experiencing gambling addiction. And before it's too late, we can check ourselves while playing gambling, and if we find signs of addiction, we can reduce it slowly so we don't get addicted.

It's scary how fast a fun activity can become an addiction. Winning can be addictive, like a sweet taste. As with any addiction, the results are severe and ugly. You mentioned self-control, which is vital. Set limitations and follow them. If you're losing control, a leisurely departure is appropriate. Remember that asking for help is powerful, not weak. Ask for help when things get tough - there are various support networks.

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This isn't a bad advice, although, from my experience, telling people to seek help and control themselves when they're addicted is throwing words to the wind.
Have you ever known any drug addicts, or alcoholics? Go to them and tell them that they should spend less on their addiction and control their habits. See where this leads you Wink

We all know how we should quit and addicts know it too, but they are unable to due to the weakness of character.

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Quote from: Lida93 on July 15, 2023, 08:17:38 AM

I strongly agree with you on this. It's easier for people to go on dropping lots of different suggestions on how to quit as an addict. I presume they will get to know better when they find themselves in the shoes of extreme addiction there then they will come to a realization that it's not as easy as they make it look. Addiction is parallel to hunger, when hunger comes you don't feel comfortable and settled till you satisfy your hunger by feeding same with gambling addiction, it takes divine intervention to eliminate it. That's why we're advised to flee from falling victim cause the repercussion effect is better imagined than experienced.

But not many people find themselves already experiencing a gambling addiction. And indeed, addiction is like a hunger that asks us to satisfy that feeling, and only by gambling we will feel that satisfaction. And so that we don't experience the same thing, we must continue to practice good self-control because that's the only thing that can prevent us from experiencing gambling addiction. And before it's too late, we can check ourselves while playing gambling, and if we find signs of addiction, we can reduce it slowly so we don't get addicted.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on July 14, 2023, 02:21:53 PM

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Admission is a big factor, admission of being an addicted gambler. And after realizing that problem, you have to seek the help of the professionals that have been helping addicted gamblers. You may try to do it on your own but if you find it too hard, there's no need to hide the problem but to go to those professionals that will help you remove that gambling addiction as it's for your own good. Realizing and accepting that you've got a gambling problem is hard to happen for many gamblers and that's why they've been stuck into this problem.

Usually they are not unaware that they are an addict, but they are embarrassed enough to tell it to others that in the end they cannot let go because they are buried by themselves.
But whether being defeated by shame will solve the problem, of course not because after all it will be difficult when it is really an addict.
The main reason is that when telling someone else, sometimes that person cannot be trusted and tells it again to someone else, and that encourages a person's shame so that they don't dare to tell.
A person may be able to lie to others, but they cannot lie to themselves. The key is within themselves, because basically as others we just want to help.

I know how it feels to tell someone that you're addicted to gambling. You'll feel ashamed of yourself when you get to tell it to someone and even if you do trust them to keep a secret, you'll never know if they'll keep it because they may tell it to another circle of their friends and from there, it's going to know that you're an addicted gambler.

Quote from: Jody.Drummer on July 14, 2023, 02:21:53 PM

By the way, maybe we can also easily talk like this, because we don't experience it, but if we were in their position it would also be very difficult.

I've been there and it's truly tough times when you're in that position. But that doesn't mean that there's no hope and if you have that will to stop, you have to start on your own.

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Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on July 14, 2023, 03:45:05 AM

Things we must do to stop gambling according to experts:

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1. Recognize the problem
2. Remove the stigma
3. Confide in a love one
4. Seek professional health
5. Adjust as needed

Source: https://www.forbes.com/health/mind/how-to-stop-gambling-expert-advice/

Now, if you still want to gamble but you don't want to become addicted to it, one of the things you should do in my opinion is:

1. Only set aside an amount of money that you will use to gamble in a casino.
2. Don't think that you will gamble to make money, because if you do that, you will surely have a problem later.
3. Just spend a few hours staying in a casino to gamble so you can avoid what you don't realize is wasting time that you should be spending on important things instead of gambling.

If it were so easy then nobody would be addicted to gambling by now and everyone would be living in peace.
Addiction is so powerful for people that while they know these things to stop gambling yet they fail to do so.
The only thing that can help such people decrease their addiction is a strong will power.
With that they will be able to follow the above steps and only with that they will be able to quit gambling.

I strongly agree with you on this. It's easier for people to go on dropping lots of different suggestions on how to quit as an addict. I presume they will get to know better when they find themselves in the shoes of extreme addiction there then they will come to a realization that it's not as easy as they make it look. Addiction is parallel to hunger, when hunger comes you don't feel comfortable and settled till you satisfy your hunger by feeding same with gambling addiction, it takes divine intervention to eliminate it. That's why we're advised to flee from falling victim cause the repercussion effect is better imagined than experienced.

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Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on July 14, 2023, 03:45:05 AM

Now, if you still want to gamble but you don't want to become addicted to it, one of the things you should do in my opinion is:

1. Only set aside an amount of money that you will use to gamble in a casino.
2. Don't think that you will gamble to make money, because if you do that, you will surely have a problem later.
3. Just spend a few hours staying in a casino to gamble so you can avoid what you don't realize is wasting time that you should be spending on important things instead of gambling.

There will eventually be you going back to the casino with a bigger amount of money. Gambling is no longer about being able to allocate time to play, everything will take a psychological toll on a person even in an unconscious way. Maybe you are right that don't think about gambling to make money, but when victory is in front of your eyes, doesn't greed come to the gambler? 100% they follow ambition and will chase bigger winnings. As an additional point, if you want to keep gambling and feel that what is at stake is still reasonable, it means that the gambler does not realize that the money spent has exceeded the limit. It would be nice to stop and find alternative activities that keep you busy.

We cannot just dictate someone's mentality, believe it or not, gambling with any amount has the same effect as a gambler with big bets.

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Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on July 14, 2023, 03:45:05 AM

Now, if you still want to gamble but you don't want to become addicted to it, one of the things you should do in my opinion is:

1. Only set aside an amount of money that you will use to gamble in a casino.
2. Don't think that you will gamble to make money, because if you do that, you will surely have a problem later.
3. Just spend a few hours staying in a casino to gamble so you can avoid what you don't realize is wasting time that you should be spending on important things instead of gambling.

You'll be able the achieve all this if you can take control of your emotions, been emotionally attached to money is one of the reasons gamblers get addicted to gambling because when they lose their money they can let go of the fact that the money is gone but keep paying.

They keep playing because they want to win back the money they just lost and that's how gambling addiction is born. If only they had set a timer for the time they can spend playing, that would had help them to stop gambling and go home to do other useful things to their life.

Setting aside money to be used for gambling will also help because when that money finish you have to stop gambling and any gambler using this strategy has to be disciplined because there'll be temptation to use other money that wasn't kept for gambling purposes.

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