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Topic: ★ ZEIT ★ [COMMUNITY & KNIGHTS] [ULTRA LOW INFLATION] [MICRO-PAYMENTS] - page 303. (Read 1009280 times)

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Crypto-missionary to the Kingdom of Rhegged
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Twitter: CoinPayments @CoinPaymentsNET  ·  Dec 8
@StealthCoin , @SterlingcoinSLG & @ZEITCOIN Won the Vote and are being added to our service !

Stealth & Sterling is online. ZEIT not, yet. I think it needs some time with our chain.

Best news in quite a while, well done to all who made the effort to vote!

Let's keep the momentum growing - not sit back and bask in success

There are many more steps to be climbed until we are where we should be
legendary
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Twitter: CoinPayments @CoinPaymentsNET  ·  Dec 8
@StealthCoin , @SterlingcoinSLG & @ZEITCOIN Won the Vote and are being added to our service !

Stealth & Sterling is online. ZEIT not, yet. I think it needs some time with our chain.
legendary
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why I can not download chain_db_peers_2014_11_15.zip at  https://mega.co.nz/#!0kVURIBY!erl5cWkFkhMvRh9_5StP11umEjQvmnbX3U2bjd2wx3E  ?

Go to the Following Link to get a copy of the Zeitcoin Blockchain from Mid November, 2014. (23 days ago)
This blockchain is for the latest versions of the wallet.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3a3l0akth7dpoeg/ZeitCoin-Blockchain.zip?dl=0

Make sure Zeitcoin is closed

Then Unpack and copy & replace the files from Zeitcoin-Blockchain into C:\Users\"username"\AppData\Roaming\Zeitcoin

Then open Zeitcoin and it will start syncing the BlockChain from the last Monthly update instead of the start.

 Cool

Edit :
Download this file if you want the peers.dat
https://www.dropbox.com/s/x0vkd42840abcfi/Zeitcoin-Peers.zip?dl=0
sr. member
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why I can not download chain_db_peers_2014_11_15.zip at  https://mega.co.nz/#!0kVURIBY!erl5cWkFkhMvRh9_5StP11umEjQvmnbX3U2bjd2wx3E  ?
legendary
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Seriously? That's not really appealing Wink
I've checked my own wallet. It's a good indication, but it's not very accurate. It's based on taint analysis with a huge database in the back.
For my wallet it shows 15% lower value than it really has. It's not possible to reach a 100% result, because of Online wallets, Exchanges etc...

We have some (known) Stakeholders and it seems to me, that they put their ZEIT on a paperwallet to hold.
A future investment. I have no problem with that situation. We have more coins available than Bitcoin will ever have.

Cheers,
Ray
legendary
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I think it is only fair. After all, there is only 30b Zeit in existence, 10 billion of that is already concentrated in only 5 wallets. So that only leaves a theoretical limit of something like 200 people.

The Wallet feature is experimental in the new block explorer, not accurate Yet as far as I can tell.
We also don't know if any of the top addresses are exchanges , which would mean that not just 1 person owns all of the coins in that address.

 Cool


Seriously? That's not really appealing Wink

Sorry, don't understand your meaning?

 Cool
legendary
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I think it is only fair. After all, there is only 30b Zeit in existence, 10 billion of that is already concentrated in only 5 wallets. So that only leaves a theoretical limit of something like 200 people.

The Wallet feature is experimental in the new block explorer, not accurate Yet as far as I can tell.
We also don't know if any of the top addresses are exchanges , which would mean that not just 1 person owns all of the coins in that address.

 Cool


Seriously? That's not really appealing Wink
legendary
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I think it is only fair. After all, there is only 30b Zeit in existence, 10 billion of that is already concentrated in only 5 wallets. So that only leaves a theoretical limit of something like 200 people.

The Wallet feature is experimental in the new block explorer, not accurate Yet as far as I can tell.
We also don't know if any of the top addresses are exchanges , which would mean that not just 1 person owns all of the coins in that address.

 Cool
sr. member
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Question for the Zeit Community,
It has been suggested there be another tier added ,
and we want to get your feedback on it ,
For or Against ?

Should there be another place added:
Requirement would be only 25 million zeitcoins to meet

Possible Titles for this are
Zeit Ambassador

Zeit Solider

Zeit Lieutenant

If for this add any other names you would like considered.
If against, please state reasons why.

This does not change requirement to be a knight which is still 100 million zeitcoins.

Well what does everyone think?

Yea or Nay?

 Cool




I think it WOULD be a good idea to have tiers of ownership, but it needs to stick with the knights theme. I suggest only 2 other Tiers:

Page

Squire

To be a page, you must have at least 25 million. To be a squire, you must have 50 million.

They are voting members as well, but their vote only counts as 1/2 or 1/4.

I think it is only fair. After all, there is only 30b Zeit in existence, 10 billion of that is already concentrated in only 5 wallets. So that only leaves a theoretical limit of something like 200 people.

If we are to have any growth as a group, we have to add these tiers in order to enlarge our potential membership.

EDIT:

Seems Kiklo had a similar idea. Smiley
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I'm with lion.
Keep it simply. Knights are enough.
legendary
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FYI:
CoinMarket Cap 1st Page  Cheesy

89    Zeitcoin    $ 167,984    $ 0.000006       29,255,179,886  ZEIT

Just a quick preview of where we are headed in 2015.

 Cool
legendary
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Cool , 1 vote for Zeit Ambassador

As far as everything else goes, I believe that they would be privy to all Zeit Knights info as much as a zeit knight, other things up for discussion,
The Knights will donate a max of 10 % of their monthly stake to further the cause of zeit.
Should the Ambassadors be required to also donate 10% or only 5% or 2.5% Monthly to further the cause of zeit.
Another issue to be considered , Voting rights, does everyone Ambassador or Knight receive 1 vote , or do we base the voting on the # of zeitcoins, you have ,
For example :
A Zeit Knight receives 1 vote for holding 100 million zeitcoins,
a Zeit Ambassador, receives ¼ vote if they hold 25 million,  ½ vote if they hold 50 million, or
3/4 vote if the hold 75 million.

(The Max any 1 individual can have is 1 vote, to help keep anyone from trying to dominate the round table.)

This is all up for discussion, so what is everyone's thoughts.

 Cool

Edit :
2 Yea
2 Nay

Additional Names Suggested
ZeitPage @ 25 million zeitcoins
ZeitSquire @ 50 million zeitcoins
hero member
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Crypto-missionary to the Kingdom of Rhegged
NAY.

Let's keep it simple.

legendary
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Official Zeitcoin community ambassador
Here's my thoughts on it, with some questions added in. How much of the inner workings would these individuals be privy to, and how much of a say so would they have? One point that you yourself have mentioned several times is that, at the current low prices, it doesn't take a whole lot of money to buy up enough Zeit (for those who have disposable income available, anyways) to qualify for this position. What that tells me is that it would be very possible, eventually, to have a rather large body of people having inputs into what the community does and where and how the Zeit are invested. It really is no different than what we have right now where all holders of Zeit already have a say so (or at least, should have a say so) as this is supposedly a community owned coin at the moment. I understand that as of right now, Ray is the de facto dev, and has been doing many great things, I might add. I also understand that you have positioned yourself into a de facto position of decision making/authority over the community, and though you have been less than forthcoming with what plans you have in the works, we can all at this time take your word at face value and give you the benefit of the doubt that you are going to be able to come through with all of these wonderful plans you say you have.

In your opinion, will opening up these positions do anything to address the issues we need most such as more recognition and acceptance as a legitimate player in the crypto game? If so, then I say yay. My vote then would be for Ambassador as this title gives a more community oriented vibe as opposed to soldier or lieutenant, which, to me at least, seem more like dictatorial terms.

Just my 2 cents.
legendary
Activity: 1092
Merit: 1000
Question for the Zeit Community,
It has been suggested there be another tier added ,
and we want to get your feedback on it ,
For or Against ?

Should there be another place added:
Requirement would be only 25 million zeitcoins to meet

Possible Titles for this are
Zeit Ambassador

Zeit Solider

Zeit Lieutenant

If for this add any other names you would like considered.
If against, please state reasons why.

This does not change requirement to be a knight which is still 100 million zeitcoins.

Well what does everyone think?

Yea or Nay?

 Cool


legendary
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dissapointing dat zeitgeist is so shortsides, crypto can be a way of distributing resources fairly, that they can't see that. As long as fiat is here, offcourse it will be a currency, but ones everything is crypto, fair distribution is a piece of cake Smiley
legendary
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Thanks for your support, fxtronic.

Our first "What is Zeitcoin?" Video is nearly finished.

It explains what Zeitcoin is, how to use it and what we stand for.
Having good connections to the TZM Network is important.
(And I cannot believe that every member is against Zeitcoin - you are my evidence)

This Coin was designed for TZM. Feel free to use this Tool.

We are happy for discussions - but before that, everybody must know what Zeitcoin is.
Otherwise it's not a discussion.
Dreaming of a world without any payments is Utopia.
Fighting against Dollars, banks and governments is possible.
It's not exactly what TZM wants, but it's the same direction and better than doing nothing.

Cheers,
Ray


PS:
Nice soundtrack of your friend MERO.

PS 2:
I wanna thank:

Zeitcoin Argentina https://www.facebook.com/groups/609887569098245/?fref=ts
Zeitcoin Brasil https://www.facebook.com/groups/1459220337628969/?fref=ts

for their support. Awesome.
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Neither TZM nor Peter Joseph is able to prohibit their members the use of ZEITCOIN.
We have fans out of the Movement on Twitter and Facebook - but they are not loud enough.
The more louder voices out of millions telling them where to go and how their Utopia should look like. That's not good.

Maybe the ZeitKnights can do that better. I want to believe!!!!

Cheers,
Ray

HI im Zeitgeist member of Argentina , most of the group here do not understand the "utility " or potential, especially the difference between zeitcoin and other altcoin or FIAT , so we need a demonstration , educate them, one by one, and be patient. . .

It's hard for me to explain exactly zeitcoin my English is bad : P , but can email a formal letter if you want to chapter ( do not accept what he says GLOBAL cordination , use critical thinking to understand a request if you find something useful for the activism ) email [email protected] be patient because they like the discussion Smiley and rational analysis.

and one of our member "MERO" ho make this music aand video

http://youtu.be/WSczyXrZnx0

its working for make a music for this video Cheesy

http://youtu.be/LVXvnaV8ZT4
legendary
Activity: 1318
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Neither TZM nor Peter Joseph is able to prohibit their members the use of ZEITCOIN.
We have fans out of the Movement on Twitter and Facebook - but they are not loud enough.
The more louder voices out of millions telling them where to go and how their Utopia should look like. That's not good.

Maybe the ZeitKnights can do that better. I want to believe!!!!

Cheers,
Ray
legendary
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Official Zeitcoin community ambassador
If I didn't had some setbacks recently with my bitcoin, I would have been a ZEITKNIGHT by now Smiley

Is the actual community of zeitgeist aware of and active in Zeitcoin?

Aware, yes. Active, no. They made it known that they will not support cryptocurrency of any kind as it was not in line with their beliefs.

Indeed, it appears that they are not in favor of gradualism of any sort. In fact, under their "resource based economy", no money would ever exist. Instead, computers will divy up the resources in demand. And these computers will be programmed by programmers, who probably work for somebody in power.....who probably have friends who will always have their needs met over someone else......and this will never be abused or mismanaged by anyone ever........you can see how this will work right? xD



I've tried on many occasions to try to wade through the thick slurry of pseudo-intellectual drivel that TZM put out & have come to the conclusion that they are NEVER going to actually achieve anything but producing more bum-fodder. They are not part of the solution, they are part of the problem. Utopian fantacists at best. The first movie WAS inspirational but PJ got scared of the anti-Semitic lobby shortly afterward & back-tracked like a sonofabitch.

Fuck 'em - We'll take up the torch & show them how it should be done.

I agree. The first movie was eye-opening to be sure. But the next few seemed a bit fanciful. The fact is that until scientists can map out and find exactly which gene on the DNA strand causes greed, there will never again be a completely resource based, fairly distributed non-fiat economy in the "civilized" world. Mankind has gotten a taste of the power that money brings, and won't be too keen to let go of that power anytime soon.

By the way, anonymous donor, your generosity is greatly appreciated!!
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