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September 16, 2013, 08:41:26 PM
cluster is getting tighter. nice. to remove the (obv?) noise, perhaps consider: a) a z-score filter, say 3 sd  or b) colormap each value with its z-score, or c) just cut it off at 8 weeks


 
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September 16, 2013, 06:52:36 PM

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I actually do count the default minimum value for volume-per-bin as slowly decreasing. It is a line that is slowly decreasing based on a calibration at the $32 peak and a calibration at the $266 peak.

Yes, it does get messier the farther out you go. Dependencies that are easier to see in the actual data start to break down for the projected variables, and it starts looking less and less like 'natural' data. Going out as far as I am trying to go with this method is a real stretch.

do you think adding some more calibration points to the default min vol-per-bin line would affect things? the gox market has definitely changed a couple of times since $266, imo



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September 16, 2013, 06:09:13 PM
i understand that you bin in volume, not time. you have made that point quite clear  Tongue

by "inverting values" do you mean take the absolute value = | d$/dt  |  ?

and what if trade vol is not a constant over time? lets say that it is decreasing slowly at some rate. in that case, counting trade vol bins would cause bigger errors as "volume required for reversal" or "time" of projection is increased. i guess you see that as it starts getting really messy the farther out in time the projection is.


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September 16, 2013, 05:16:13 PM
interesting stuff as always. my analysis highlights $125 if we go that way soon too.

some Q's if u dont mind. can you try to describe where you see noise entering into your model. or maybe just describe what are the largest contributors to variance?

is it possible that you have either 1) two overlapping distributions, or 2) 1 primary distribution with some artifactual noise?



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This bull will try to shake you off. Hold tight!
September 16, 2013, 09:41:19 AM
legendary
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September 16, 2013, 09:18:25 AM
There is no risk for selling now, but there is a risk for holding. Selling everything is always a safe bet.

the risk you perceive for holding bitcoin is greatly exaggerated, and you fail to recognize the risk with holding everything in USD

lol

 Grin

its true dude

bitcoin is happening now regardless of risk

USD is going down regardless of economic forecasts.

cash is king until its not.

bitcoin is gold! gold i tell you!
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September 16, 2013, 09:09:26 AM
There is no risk for selling now, but there is a risk for holding. Selling everything is always a safe bet.

the risk you perceive for holding bitcoin is greatly exaggerated, and you fail to recognize the risk with holding everything in USD

lol
legendary
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September 16, 2013, 09:08:23 AM
There is no risk for selling now, but there is a risk for holding. Selling everything is always a safe bet.

the risk you perceive for holding bitcoin is greatly exaggerated, and you fail to recognize the risk with holding everything in USD
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September 16, 2013, 09:01:21 AM
There is no risk for selling now, but there is a risk for holding. Selling everything is always a safe bet.

It wasn't for the poor buggers who sold everything @ $30 before the $240 spike. Not that I am saying we are in the same situation now, but you never know...

Still a safe bet, any profit is a good thing.  It's when you start stretching when you have a real problem.
legendary
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September 16, 2013, 08:36:36 AM
There is no risk for selling now, but there is a risk for holding. Selling everything is always a safe bet.

It wasn't for the poor buggers who sold everything @ $30 before the $240 spike. Not that I am saying we are in the same situation now, but you never know...
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September 16, 2013, 08:31:50 AM
A lesson that I learnt the hard way: you should never dump all.

Risk to hold outweighed risk of selling.

Assume I sold 250 BTC @ 138

If the price goes up to $170 I will probably buy back in and still have the same amount of $.

250 * 138 = $34,500
$34,500 / $170 = 202 BTC (same USD value)

At this point, I feel the risk is higher that the price is going to drop significantly.  I think I'll be buying in somewhere around ~100, which will give me a gain of 100 BTC.

There is no risk for selling now, but there is a risk for holding. Selling everything is always a safe bet.
legendary
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September 16, 2013, 04:23:53 AM
A lesson that I learnt the hard way: you should never dump all.

Lessing I learned the hard way: you should never go all-in.


Yeah, and that too  Undecided

I am now trying to keep a balanced holding of BTC and $, with a slight bias towards one or the other, depending on the prevailing trend.
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September 16, 2013, 03:52:26 AM
A lesson that I learnt the hard way: you should never dump all.

Lessing I learned the hard way: you should never go all-in.
legendary
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September 16, 2013, 03:52:07 AM
It looks like some are pulling sell orders, at least 2k BTC worth, in preparation for a dump. Something similar happened on the 5th.
legendary
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September 16, 2013, 02:26:14 AM
A lesson that I learnt the hard way: you should never dump all.
legendary
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September 15, 2013, 04:54:11 PM
lol rereading the post i should have just said that i agree with you
legendary
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September 15, 2013, 04:53:03 PM
sorry i meant exactly the same, first well drop to 124ish then a rebound and a new wall at 140
legendary
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September 15, 2013, 04:47:54 PM
That would result in touching the 150$, I can't imagine how it would be possible.
IMO what happened today was a 'dead cat bounce', caused by minnows looking like whales, due to low volume.
legendary
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September 15, 2013, 04:40:06 PM
im guessing it will be a repeat of sept 7 to the 13th
legendary
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September 15, 2013, 03:34:02 PM
I find a lot more likely a drop to about 120$ followed by a rebound to about 130$.
But since it's Sunday it may happen in slow motion, due to the low volume.
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