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Topic: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated. - page 9. (Read 89558 times)

legendary
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Does anyone know where is the SBOBitcoin live chat?
It was on the homepage. I just looked and it's not there now. http://sbobitcoin.com/

This is a serious issue. I'm surprised you aren't issuing a warning, at least until they reappear.

I also checked their Skype. They were always available there 24/7. They are offline on Skype as well.

I wasn't aware of a hurricane in the Philippines. They  should still be able to send out emails to their customers notifying them of the situation, but I've received nothing.

I suggest putting up a prominent warning, telling people not to deposit until they resurface on their Live Chat and Skype.
legendary
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DirectBet- You keep posting the same image over and over again. That is from peepsplace.com and doesn't have a thing to do with bitcointalk. My personal opinion is that no one should play at your book. My personal opinion is that some time during the NFL season that you will run off and stiff players since your limits are high. Some posters here believe in you so you got a "C".

What is wrong with my personal opinion?

1. No previous bookmaking experience
2. One man shop.
3. DirectBet posts confidential information if you have a disagreement.

Put that together and you are a stiff job waiting to happen.


legendary
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Merit: 1061
Anoni have promo ?

I don see why nitrogen are on B but not A
Nitrogen hasn't been in business for two years yet.

"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)

"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+ (2012)
Betcoinsports B- (2013)
Casinobitcoin B- (2013)

"C" rated books
Cloudbet C+ (2013)
SBObitcoin C+ (2013) *
DirectBet C (2013)
Jetwin C- (2013)
BetOWI C- (2014) *

"D" rated books
Coindraft D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
BetVIP D+ (2014)
Webetcoins D+ (2014)
Gobetgo D+ (2014)
Bitbm D
Bitcoinlivebets D- (2013)

"F" rated books
BetCas F
Bitcoinsport F
Coinbet F
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC

NR
Darkbet
Betmoose
Fairlay
Cointeller
Bitbook
xbet.io
Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports
Predictious
tdsports


* longer accepting cash deposits



Maximum grade based upon time in business:

A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
F - reserved for books that are slow paying or stiffing players
sr. member
Activity: 318
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Anoni have promo ?

I don see why nitrogen are on B but not A
legendary
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Merit: 1010
I would never recommend for anyone to play at Directbet.

Yes we all remember what happened the last time when you recommended everyone not to bet at DirectBet.

You kept betting there yourself secretly on a regular basis because deep inside you know we are # 1.

You are not recommending DirectBet because our competitors are paying you to do so and this "ratings guide" is in fact a disguised advertisement vehicle for them.

But we all know you don't mean a word and your word means nothing.

Here is a reminder in case you forgot :


That's another lie from Peeps Place, but unlike him, we are not just saying "you lie"... we prove it !

Today we are going to present you with another new evidence why Peeps Place is a scam.


But first we would like to make it clear that we NEVER reveal information on our clients in public, unless they go public first and spread FALSE information on DirectBet, as Peeps Place is doing.

A couple of months ago we revealed and proved for the first time that Peeps is getting paid by his top rated Sportbooks to promote them in forums.

Immediately afterwards, Peeps got upset and downgraded us from C to D in his forum (see capture below).

This is another evidence that his ratings guide is not "By the players, for the players", as Peeps is claiming, but rather "By Peeps, for the guys that pay him".

Also notice that Peeps Place, "the gold standard when it comes to rating bitcoin sportsbooks", is advising his followers in regards to DirectBet that "I wouldn't play at this shop".

What he forgot to tell them is that during the following month, he was betting frequently at DirectBet, to the point where he earned a VIP reward, a bonus that is reserved to our most loyal clients !

Peeps is lying to his own crowd !!!

Do you think that Peeps Place has the creditability to rate Bitcoin Sportbooks, given that those he rates the highest are paying him to advertise and promote them ?

Please come and vote in our thread here



legendary
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Does anyone know where is the SBOBitcoin live chat?
It was on the homepage. I just looked and it's not there now. http://sbobitcoin.com/

Thanks. Maybe the typhoon Glenda shutting down Manila has something to do with it.
legendary
Activity: 3878
Merit: 1061
I really enjoying convesation between Peeps and Direct.
But I agree only old book will get top ranking is not good, it's doesn't matter if I start book in 2010 and don't have better feature from others so how I will get top ranking.

You must set critirea for ranking and put here. Saying this that atleast 3 year old book will be A ranking will not solve issue.

Make 5-6 points critirea for ranking after that I don't care which book will be on top.

I played in both Anoni and Direct, Both have their pro and cons.



Hey Peeps,

You did not reply here,

Now another problem in Anonibet, People acussing them with proof they were playing themselves  in contest too.
Still Anonibet in top place, don't deserve after so many problem.
How would you rank the books? There have been three 1 man shops (2 men at most) have gone under in the past year. DirectBet is a one man shop. These places don't make it unless they expand.

DirectBet will not be around another year without improvements.

You are seeing problem in other books  but not in Anonibet, they run shady contest and participate themselves too if they can't afford to run contest who told them to run contest.
The best book for now is Nitrogen.
And I never said rate higher to Directbet, I said make clear critirea how you rated book. Just because you like Anonibet or they paid you guys in other forum  you prefer them.
Anonibet and Nitrogen are rated 1 and 2 in almost all rating guides. Playing the " being pay card" is what most do when they disagree with the ratings but all the rating guides can't be wrong.  A book can't be punished because they have a banner up. All the "A" and "B" rated books are strong.

"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)

"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+ (2012)
Betcoinsports B- (2013)
Casinobitcoin B- (2013)

I don't want to argue anymore, because you decided that you will not change your rating doesn't matter who posted here.
I posted here just because I read once that this ratings for people from people response, But I am seeing only your own choice that which book will be on top.
Your input is appreciated.
legendary
Activity: 1512
Merit: 1010
ITSMYNE 🚀 Talk NFTs, Trade NFTs 🚀
I really enjoying convesation between Peeps and Direct.
But I agree only old book will get top ranking is not good, it's doesn't matter if I start book in 2010 and don't have better feature from others so how I will get top ranking.

You must set critirea for ranking and put here. Saying this that atleast 3 year old book will be A ranking will not solve issue.

Make 5-6 points critirea for ranking after that I don't care which book will be on top.

I played in both Anoni and Direct, Both have their pro and cons.



Hey Peeps,

You did not reply here,

Now another problem in Anonibet, People acussing them with proof they were playing themselves  in contest too.
Still Anonibet in top place, don't deserve after so many problem.
How would you rank the books? There have been three 1 man shops (2 men at most) have gone under in the past year. DirectBet is a one man shop. These places don't make it unless they expand.

DirectBet will not be around another year without improvements.

You are seeing problem in other books  but not in Anonibet, they run shady contest and participate themselves too if they can't afford to run contest who told them to run contest.
The best book for now is Nitrogen.
And I never said rate higher to Directbet, I said make clear critirea how you rated book. Just because you like Anonibet or they paid you guys in other forum  you prefer them.
Anonibet and Nitrogen are rated 1 and 2 in almost all rating guides. Playing the " being pay card" is what most do when they disagree with the ratings but all the rating guides can't be wrong.  A book can't be punished because they have a banner up. All the "A" and "B" rated books are strong.

"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)

"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+ (2012)
Betcoinsports B- (2013)
Casinobitcoin B- (2013)

I don't want to argue anymore, because you decided that you will not change your rating doesn't matter who posted here.
I posted here just because I read once that this ratings for people from people response, But I am seeing only your own choice that which book will be on top.
legendary
Activity: 3878
Merit: 1061
I really enjoying convesation between Peeps and Direct.
But I agree only old book will get top ranking is not good, it's doesn't matter if I start book in 2010 and don't have better feature from others so how I will get top ranking.

You must set critirea for ranking and put here. Saying this that atleast 3 year old book will be A ranking will not solve issue.

Make 5-6 points critirea for ranking after that I don't care which book will be on top.

I played in both Anoni and Direct, Both have their pro and cons.



Hey Peeps,

You did not reply here,

Now another problem in Anonibet, People acussing them with proof they were playing themselves  in contest too.
Still Anonibet in top place, don't deserve after so many problem.
How would you rank the books? There have been three 1 man shops (2 men at most) have gone under in the past year. DirectBet is a one man shop. These places don't make it unless they expand.

DirectBet will not be around another year without improvements.

You are seeing problem in other books  but not in Anonibet, they run shady contest and participate themselves too if they can't afford to run contest who told them to run contest.
The best book for now is Nitrogen.
And I never said rate higher to Directbet, I said make clear critirea how you rated book. Just because you like Anonibet or they paid you guys in other forum  you prefer them.
Anonibet and Nitrogen are rated 1 and 2 in almost all rating guides. Playing the " being pay card" is what most do when they disagree with the ratings but all the rating guides can't be wrong.  A book can't be punished because they have a banner up. All the "A" and "B" rated books are strong.

"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)

"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+ (2012)
Betcoinsports B- (2013)
Casinobitcoin B- (2013)
legendary
Activity: 1512
Merit: 1010
ITSMYNE 🚀 Talk NFTs, Trade NFTs 🚀
I really enjoying convesation between Peeps and Direct.
But I agree only old book will get top ranking is not good, it's doesn't matter if I start book in 2010 and don't have better feature from others so how I will get top ranking.

You must set critirea for ranking and put here. Saying this that atleast 3 year old book will be A ranking will not solve issue.

Make 5-6 points critirea for ranking after that I don't care which book will be on top.

I played in both Anoni and Direct, Both have their pro and cons.



Hey Peeps,

You did not reply here,

Now another problem in Anonibet, People acussing them with proof they were playing themselves  in contest too.
Still Anonibet in top place, don't deserve after so many problem.
How would you rank the books? There have been three 1 man shops (2 men at most) have gone under in the past year. DirectBet is a one man shop. These places don't make it unless they expand.

DirectBet will not be around another year without improvements.

You are seeing problem in other books  but not in Anonibet, they run shady contest and participate themselves too if they can't afford to run contest who told them to run contest.
The best book for now is Nitrogen.
And I never said rate higher to Directbet, I said make clear critirea how you rated book. Just because you like Anonibet or they paid you guys in other forum  you prefer them.
legendary
Activity: 3878
Merit: 1061
Does anyone know where is the SBOBitcoin live chat?
It was on the homepage. I just looked and it's not there now. http://sbobitcoin.com/
legendary
Activity: 3878
Merit: 1061
DirectBet outright lies about being discredited for not advertising. We took down the DirectBet banner where we received 1% because of their problems. DirrectBet went on a smear campaign. DirectBet uses excerpts and lies to change meanings.

legendary
Activity: 3878
Merit: 1061
I really enjoying convesation between Peeps and Direct.
But I agree only old book will get top ranking is not good, it's doesn't matter if I start book in 2010 and don't have better feature from others so how I will get top ranking.

You must set critirea for ranking and put here. Saying this that atleast 3 year old book will be A ranking will not solve issue.

Make 5-6 points critirea for ranking after that I don't care which book will be on top.

I played in both Anoni and Direct, Both have their pro and cons.



Hey Peeps,

You did not reply here,

Now another problem in Anonibet, People acussing them with proof they were playing themselves  in contest too.
Still Anonibet in top place, don't deserve after so many problem.
How would you rank the books? There have been three 1 man shops (2 men at most) that have gone under in the past year. DirectBet is a one man shop. These places don't make it unless they expand.

DirectBet will not be around another year without improvements. Their live betting is unplayable because of the hold. Bets can be held in limbo for an hour before you know if you have a bet or not. I would never recommend for anyone to play at Directbet.
legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1001
Does anyone know where is the SBOBitcoin live chat?
legendary
Activity: 1512
Merit: 1010
ITSMYNE 🚀 Talk NFTs, Trade NFTs 🚀
I really enjoying convesation between Peeps and Direct.
But I agree only old book will get top ranking is not good, it's doesn't matter if I start book in 2010 and don't have better feature from others so how I will get top ranking.

You must set critirea for ranking and put here. Saying this that atleast 3 year old book will be A ranking will not solve issue.

Make 5-6 points critirea for ranking after that I don't care which book will be on top.

I played in both Anoni and Direct, Both have their pro and cons.



Hey Peeps,

You did not reply here,

Now another problem in Anonibet, People acussing them with proof they were playing themselves  in contest too.
Still Anonibet in top place, don't deserve after so many problem.
legendary
Activity: 3878
Merit: 1061
... And how much BTC have we raised the past year with our offerings on Havelock and outside through VC?

The fact remains we've been operating for a full year, never missed any player payout or even been a hint of a scam like other sites that pop up and exit in months.. Knowing this very vocal community I can promise you if we didn't pay a user even fractions of a BTC, it would be plastered in many threads (including our own).... May I suggest you do further research and come back with a better informed opinion?

Regarding CasinoBitco.in, I applaud the transparency, but I have to say that I would never deposit at a book that has attracted a total player balance of ~$30k after being open for 14 months, and has yet to show the ability to make a profit as a sportsbook (ignoring casino PnL):

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmSWZWkGJ1V3dFpxZHVTN0x6ZldUeHRteWdBd1pMNXc&usp=sharing#gid=16



Where did I say you weren't paying people out?  I said your net player deposits are tiny and you have not made a profit in booking sports over the last 14 months.  These are warning signs to me.   If you guys turn it around eventually and make it big, that's awesome.  But I wanted to give people a sense of the size and profitability of your operation, if that matters to them, as it does to me.
All info matters. Keep the opinions and info coming in.
newbie
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... And how much BTC have we raised the past year with our offerings on Havelock and outside through VC?

The fact remains we've been operating for a full year, never missed any player payout or even been a hint of a scam like other sites that pop up and exit in months.. Knowing this very vocal community I can promise you if we didn't pay a user even fractions of a BTC, it would be plastered in many threads (including our own).... May I suggest you do further research and come back with a better informed opinion?

Regarding CasinoBitco.in, I applaud the transparency, but I have to say that I would never deposit at a book that has attracted a total player balance of ~$30k after being open for 14 months, and has yet to show the ability to make a profit as a sportsbook (ignoring casino PnL):

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmSWZWkGJ1V3dFpxZHVTN0x6ZldUeHRteWdBd1pMNXc&usp=sharing#gid=16



Where did I say you weren't paying people out?  I said your net player deposits are tiny and you have not made a profit in booking sports over the last 14 months.  These are warning signs to me.   If you guys turn it around eventually and make it big, that's awesome.  But I wanted to give people a sense of the size and profitability of your operation, if that matters to them, as it does to me.
legendary
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hero member
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Keep up the good work peeps!
legendary
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DirectBet- What you say are lies.

I only presents the facts. I invite everyone to read the archive of this thread and see for themselves :

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6137493

I honestly asked you why were we rated lower than Anonibet. You couldn't explain and a few hours later you changed the ratings criteria in order to downgrade us and shut us up.

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Anonibet and Nitrogen are 1 and 2 on Ryans guide.

Yes and # 3 in Ryan's list is bitcoinlivebets.com, not far behind Anonibet.

You gave Anonibet A and bitcoinlivebets.com D-

How do you explain such a big difference between your ratings and the users ratings ?

There are two options :

1) The ratings in Ryan's thread is greatly influenced by shills accounts.

OR

2) bitcoinlivebets.com didn't pay you so you rated them D-

Which one is it ?

I have nothing against Ryan or his ratings so I try to stay away of any criticism since it's nice to have multiple rating guides.

bitcoinlivebets is a very shaky book. They have problems on almost a daily basis and automation is never fully working. Each person has different reasons for playing at a book. I think that bitcoinlivebets is at the top of the list of the next book to go under although I hope it's not the case.

Bitcoinlivebets' (D- rating) website is down.
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