Topic: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated. - page 2. (Read 89572 times)

i think contest winners are anonibet employees... but i could only prove one... read my story... anonibet over reaction and silence made it clear... they tried to get rid of evidence...

Last time I checked the maximum withdrawal limit on Anonibet was 500 mBTC, 0.5 BTC that is.

I'd also like to add that the recent allegations does not look good, at all. Until I see some acceptable explanations I'll move my betting business elsewhere.

"Last time I checked the maximum withdrawal limit on Anonibet was 500 mBTC, 0.5 BTC that is."

No, the site states:

 "Are there any minimum or maximum limits for depositing and withdrawing?

Minimum deposit amount is 0.001 BTC or 1 mBTC. The maximum amount you can withdraw from your Anonibet account is 500 BTC for a 24 hour period."

https://www.anonibet.com/default.aspx



The same FAQ still states that there is a 5% charge for withdrawing without giving a one time rollover (betting all funds deposited at least once).
This is inexcusable, given that there is no cost to anonibet for either accepting a deposit or sending out a withdrawal.

"After I made a deposit, can I withdraw my funds without placing any bets?

Clients are required to wager the whole amount that was deposited, before any withdrawal request. If you want to withdraw funds without making a wager a 5% handling fee is charged."

It's always good to monitor sportsbooks and make sure they are being honest.

I just think your ranking system is deceiving. Why have anonibet above nitrogen or betcoinsports? or even directbet?

It seems like your personal experience and the way you title your thread would indicate otherwise.

But you still give Anonibet with A rate??

Yep they're good in bet but really terrible in contest
see my evidence here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7918311

do u have a word with anonibet boss? he is not answering me several days...

he say anonitips contest winner is just a regular customer... i want him to explain me how anonitips has a facebook page since 2011 with anonibet address and logo in the contact info...

wait the guy's actual screename he won with is anonitips?  Wow can't get much more obvious that that! haha.  Seriously if this type of crap is true you really should be lowering the Anonibet rating...

Wow not using anonibet after seeing the posts above.

I'm not going to change the ratings on DirectBet or Anonibet since there hasn't been enough posters speaking up to warrant it.

Can you go into more reasoning over why you are giving Anonibet A-? As legend_ points out, there are some suspicious circumstances that makes it possible to conclude that they may be shady / scamming. I am not judging right now, but you should investigate and update ratings if appropriate.

Can you go into more reasoning over why you are giving Anonibet A-? As legend_ points out, there are some suspicious circumstances that makes it possible to conclude that they may be shady / scamming. I am not judging right now, but you should investigate and update ratings if appropriate.

I'm gonna have to say cloudbet is the easiest sportsbook  to use!!! Anonibet has been around forever so they are my backup, book

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Just gotta chime in here as a fairly neutral, non-directly competing operator...

DirectBet, I think regardless of whether you're right or wrong, you're giving your book and reputation a bad image with how you're handling this. You're in here multiple times a day trying to prove that Peeps is wrong and you are right. Only you seem to care though, everyone else wants to get on with the regular scheduling - it also shows you're not spending your time improving your platform to cater better to your users. There's also a strong feel of a cult/herd mentality within your thread and from your users (assuming they are real), and bashing down what WAS before this shitstorm a decent thread for news, updates, issues and disputes where players and operators can come and talk about problems and settle them, REGARDLESS if they are rated higher or lower than others. Now every time this gets a 'New' pip on my watchlist I expect lots of bold and red writing between you and Peeps. Okay let's assume he gets paid to rate books higher, so? Happens ALL the time in the industry as a whole, in fact, that's what our mass market media is all about. No one can guarantee 100% neutral opinions, and most smart players know this and take all ratings with a grain of salt. Real players will test out each book and decide for themselves what they like, not just go to the 'A' rated book because some guy on the forum said so. The fact you're rated at all is a huge bonus, if I was Peeps I would've already taken you off the list since he's running a self-moderated rating system and can do whatever he wants at the end of the day. RyanK's is much more open to user ratings than this one, but on the downside is also more open to shilling.

How can this end? What do you want Peeps to do, say "Yea you're right, I lied and am being paid to promote the 'top books'". Why!? That's worse for everyone, for the players and for you. The more people actively promoting bitcoin gambling the better, and just because you're unhappy with it, doesn't mean you should be taking everyone else down with you.

What we'd like to see is every reviewer giving each book a fair chance - to post updates, promote, connect with the community (aka not barring entry to the market). Just because you're a C doesn't mean anything is necessarily wrong, and even if you were 'A' wouldn't make you any more popular. Your site does need improvement, face it and focus your time and energy on that. It's been a month for us here at BetMoose and we've already built a whole social network within ours.

BTC gambling is still tiny and a sketchy fiat book from costa rica can swallow everyone up tomorrow with no issues, so let's try to focus on adoption and user growth outside of bitcoin instead of fighting for users within the bitcoin communities. This is, in part, due to Peeps Place being paid for outreach to fiat gambling communities with his 'rating guide'.

Adam

How can this end? What do you want Peeps to do, say "Yea you're right, I lied and am being paid to promote the 'top books'".

This poster here registered July 28th. Many backing DirectBet have just registered.

Your claim that they just signed up to back us is another false accusation.

This poster here registered July 28th. Many backing DirectBet have just registered.

I give you credit for that !

If you remember, when all this started back in April I specifically stated that you are doing a good job of alerting people from scams

I didn't want the bet 7 minutes later.

Remember when you said that Livebets didn't pay me and that was the reason for their D- rating. You showed me where Ryan had them rated as the 3rd highest book. Livebets went under with player's funds shortly after that.

Peeps Place is doing a good job in helping players avoid scams, but when it comes to rating legitimate books, it should be disclosed that :

1. The ratings criteria have recently tailored so that only Anonibet can get an A rating.

2. Anonibet is paying Peeps Place for advertising them, as you can see here : http://www.peepsplace.com/