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This is the sequence July 19th and prior. I missed the 4.25. 5 out of 7 guys voted 5. The team in full force.

Sr. Member - 5
Newbie - 5
Hero Member - 5
Full Member - 4.25
Sr. Member - 1
Sr. Member - 5
Sr. Member - 5
legendary
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My data ended July 19th. That's why I said that I didn't look at Skipper's data. Here are the votes. You misquote everything. Here's the team of shills.

July 19 :5
July 16: 5
July 15: 1
July 13: 5
July 13: 5

Another spread of false information by Peeps Place. There is no such sequence of ratings.

Once again, here are all the ratings that we received in July by the users in the order in which they were received.

You can verify that yourself in the thread archive : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin-sports-betting-review-best-btc-sportsbooks-2018-customer-feedback-577102

Jr Member - 1
Member - 1.5
Member - 3.5
Jr. Member - 5
Sr. Member - 4.5
Sr. Member - 5
Newbie - 5
Hero Member - 5
Full Member - 4.25
Sr. Member - 1
Sr. Member - 5
Sr. Member - 5
Newbie - 4
Newbie - 5
Member - 4
Member - 4
Member 4.5
Full Member - 5

Where is the "team of shills that all rated us 5 out of 5" ?

I'm sorry Peeps Place but every time you make a false accusation on DirectBet, we have no choice but to remind the members here that you are getting paid monthly by our competitors, Anonibet, BetcoinSports and Nitrogen to do so.

We truly hope they will realize that a liar representative is bad publicity for them and that they will stop funding your activity immediately.


legendary
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My data ended July 19th. That's why I said that I didn't look at Skipper's data. Here are the votes. You misquote everything. Here's the team of shills.

July 19 :5
July 16: 5
July 15: 1
July 13: 5
July 13: 5
legendary
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I never looked it up. I went by this.
In June only two posters voted on DirectBet. One gave them a 4 and the other a 1. All of a sudden we have 6 new shills vote for DirectBet all 4.5 or 5. They all opened their account in July.

We just caught you lie again Peeps. Please allow me to show you :

First you claimed that we sent shills to rate us 5. Then when we proved you wrong, you blamed it on Skipper2, claiming that he said it first.

Well, look, Skipper2 said it on July 26th. But you already said it one week before on July 19 !

Here is the quote in case you forgot :


Anonibet's rating is in line with other sportsbook rating sites. They were the No.2 book with Ryan's poster vote here at bitcointalk until contest allegations. DirectBet was very low in Ryan's ratings until DirectBet sent in a team of shills that all rated 5 out of 5 to boost DirectBet's ratings.

The fact that Peeps Place and Skipper2 are making the exact same baseless false accusation is another proof that Peeps Place is the same person behind Skipper2.

Peeps, can you please tell us who is the "team of shills that all rated us 5 out of 5" ?

You were quoting the ratings list from its early days when there weren't many votes and so the list was not accurate. The more votes, the more accurate it is.

Here are all the ratings that we received in July by the users in the order in which they were received :

Jr Member - 1
Member - 1.5
Member - 3.5
Jr. Member - 5
Sr. Member - 4.5
Sr. Member - 5
Newbie - 5
Hero Member - 5
Full Member - 4.25
Sr. Member - 1
Sr. Member - 5
Sr. Member - 5
Newbie - 4
Newbie - 5
Member - 4
Member - 4
Member 4.5
Full Member - 5

Where is the "team of shills that all rated us 5 out of 5" ?

I'm sorry Peeps Place but every time you make a false accusation on DirectBet, we have no choice but to remind the members here that you are getting paid monthly by our competitors, Anonibet, BetcoinSports and Nitrogen to do so.

We truly hope they will realize that a liar representative is bad publicity for them and that they will immediately stop funding your activity.


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This was the poster voted rating by Ryan in May 10.

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BEST SPORTS BOOKS : RANKED BY USERS (PLEASE VOTE)
« on: May 10, 2014, 04:46:40 PM »

4.6   bitcoinlivebets.com ( 8 )
4.4   nitrogensports.eu ( 14 )
4.1   anonibet.com ( 10 )
4.0   webetcoins.com ( 2 )
3.6   casinobitco.in ( 7 )
3.5   darkbet.com ( 2 )
3.4   coindrafts.com ( 4 )
3.3   cloudbet.com ( 10 )
3.3   directbet.eu ( 9 )
2.7   jetwin.com ( 6 )
2.6   betcoinsports.com ( 6 )
1.0   bitcoinsports.eu ( 2 )
N/A   gobetgo.com ( 0 )

Here are his ratings today after the DirectBet shills.
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4.3   nitrogensports.eu ( 33 )
4.0   directbet.eu ( 27 )
3.9   casinobitco.in ( 12 )
3.5   cloudbet.com ( 17 )
3.5   jetwin.com ( 7 )
3.3   anonibet.com ( 33 )
3.3   coindrafts.com ( 6 )
3.0   webetcoins.com ( 10 )
2.9   betcoinsports.com ( 12 )
N/R   darkbet.com ( 4 )


Current Ratings in this thread
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"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)

"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+ (2012)
Betcoinsports B- (2013)
Casinobitcoin B- (2013)

"C" rated books
Cloudbet C+ (2013)
SBObitcoin C+ (2013) *
DirectBet C (2013)
Jetwin C- (2013)
BetOWI C- (2014) *
BetVIP C- (2014)

"D" rated books
Coindraft D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
Webetcoins D+ (2014)
Gobetgo D+ (2014)
Bitbm D


"F" rated books
BetCas F
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC

NR
Darkbet
Betmoose
Fairlay
Cointeller
Bitbook
xbet.io
Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports
Predictious
tdsports
betxcp


* longer accepting cash deposits



Maximum grade based upon time in business:

A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
F - reserved for books that are slow paying or stiffing players"A" rated books
legendary
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I proved you wrong. You asked for a PM and I showed you a PM. Give it a rest. If you keep repeating a lie it doesn't make it the truth.
legendary
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I never looked it up. I went by this.
In June only two posters voted on DirectBet. One gave them a 4 and the other a 1. All of a sudden we have 6 new shills vote for DirectBet all 4.5 or 5. They all opened their account in July.

We just caught you lie again Peeps. Please allow me to show you :

First you claimed that we sent shills to rate us 5. Then when we proved you wrong, you blamed it on Skipper2, claiming that he said it first.

Well, look, Skipper2 said it on July 26th. But you already said it one week before on July 19 !

Here is the quote in case you forgot :


Anonibet's rating is in line with other sportsbook rating sites. They were the No.2 book with Ryan's poster vote here at bitcointalk until contest allegations. DirectBet was very low in Ryan's ratings until DirectBet sent in a team of shills that all rated 5 out of 5 to boost DirectBet's ratings.

The fact that Peeps Place and Skipper2 are making the exact same baseless false accusation is another proof that Peeps Place is the same person behind Skipper2.

What are the odds that two different persons will post the exact same lie ?

What are the odds that Skipper2 will make a thoughtful post on Peeps Place thread in a matter he has no business at only to immediately delete it after a few seconds without posting it ever again ?

There is no other explanation. Peeps Place is Skipper2.

Don't you find it amusing that Peeps Place is exchanging private messages with himself and replying to his own posts ?

Peeps, we look forward to your next lie, sponsored by Anonibet.
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Can you show us the PM that you sent to skipper2 (ahhem, I mean, to yourself) ?


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DirectBet has accused us as being the same person. Can you please enter this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=448302.1300 with any response that you may have. Thanks
" Peeps Place, the gold standard when it comes to rating bitcoin sportsbooks," http://news.rouletters.com/caution-is-advised-as-new-ratings-for-bitcoin-sportsbooks-are-released-0002339.html

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You can post in this thread if you would like. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=393147.1620 thanks
" Peeps Place, the gold standard when it comes to rating bitcoin sportsbooks," http://news.rouletters.com/caution-is-advised-as-new-ratings-for-bitcoin-
legendary
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It's sad to see Peeps Place is still talking to himself using his Skipper2 account.

If anyone here has any doubt that Skipper2 is Peeps Place, please let me know and I'll show you.


I made a post here and realized it would upset DirectBet so I deleted it.

If you look at skipper2 post history you will see that Peeps Place opened this account solely for the purpose of posting baseless, false and negative information on DirectBet. No less than half of his posts are an attempt to discredit us. His first ever post was an attempt to stir controversy on DirectBet.

And now he is saying that he deleted this post in order not to upset DirectBet. But the post that he deleted has nothing to do with DirectBet and no post about DirectBet was deleted :



This is Peeps Place talking defending Anonibet as usual. He just forgot to log out from skipper2 before posting.

I never looked it up.

It's sad to see that Peeps Place, "the gold standard when it comes to rating bitcoin sportsbooks", is posting false information on multiple threads without first verifying it. It's even sadder that certain books are paying him to do this kind of dirty job.

Is that what you consider "gold standard" Peeps ?


I sent him a PM. I don't know.

Can you show us the PM that you sent to skipper2 (ahhem, I mean, to yourself) ?
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DirectBet is obsessed. I made a post in his thread. He bombarded it with replies and then had his cult members reply.

I posted in another rating thread. DirectBet bombarded my post again and the cult members were right behind.

I made a post here and realized it would upset DirectBet so I deleted it. He said that I worked for a sports book. I don't want to deal with DirectBet and his little cult that hang on his every word. No one can out post DirectBet. He has no life.
legendary
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I never looked it up. I went by this.
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In June only two posters voted on DirectBet. One gave them a 4 and the other a 1. All of a sudden we have 6 new shills vote for DirectBet all 4.5 or 5. They all opened their account in July.
legendary
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6 guys in a row just sign up and all give DirectBet a 5 and you don't see a problem with it.

Guys, this is another lie by Peeps Place, and as usual, we will prove it.

Just go and see for yourself, here are all the ratings that we received in July by the users in the order in which they were received :

Jr Member - 1
Member - 1.5
Member - 3.5
Jr. Member - 5
Sr. Member - 4.5
Sr. Member - 5
Newbie - 5
Hero Member - 5
Full Member - 4.25
Sr. Member - 1
Sr. Member - 5
Sr. Member - 5
Newbie - 4
Newbie - 5
Member - 4
Member - 4
Member 4.5

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin-sports-betting-review-best-btc-sportsbooks-2018-customer-feedback-577102

We have been the victim of shill accounts, not the beneficial. Several users here have rated us 1, a rating that is reserved for scams, without any explanation, and "coincidently", that happened right after we revealed Peeps Place scam !

We have not used shill accounts to rate ourselves !


The odds of 6 people posting a 5 in a row, assuming equal chance of voting each number, is .000064.

 Roll Eyes  Shocked  Roll Eyes

Where do you see 6 people in a row giving us a rating of 5 ?

What are the odds that you will make a post without lying ?

I went by skipper's post. I didn't look it up.
legendary
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6 guys in a row just sign up and all give DirectBet a 5 and you don't see a problem with it.

Guys, this is another lie by Peeps Place, and as usual, we will prove it.

Just go and see for yourself, here are all the ratings that we received in July by the users in the order in which they were received :

Jr Member - 1
Member - 1.5
Member - 3.5
Jr. Member - 5
Sr. Member - 4.5
Sr. Member - 5
Newbie - 5
Hero Member - 5
Full Member - 4.25
Sr. Member - 1
Sr. Member - 5
Sr. Member - 5
Newbie - 4
Newbie - 5
Member - 4
Member - 4
Member 4.5

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin-sports-betting-review-best-btc-sportsbooks-2018-customer-feedback-577102

We have been the victim of shill accounts, not the beneficial. Several users here have rated us 1, a rating that is reserved for scams, without any explanation, and "coincidently", that happened right after we revealed Peeps Place scam !

We have not used shill accounts to rate ourselves !


The odds of 6 people posting a 5 in a row, assuming equal chance of voting each number, is .000064.

 Roll Eyes  Shocked  Roll Eyes

Where do you see 6 people in a row giving us a rating of 5 ?

What are the odds that you will make a post without lying ?
legendary
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DirectBet- Can you please start another thread with all your accusations since it clutters up this thread. How about "Peepsplace is on the take" and keep it there. Some replies to the above accusations.

You mentioned the banner at Cloudbet and how the ratings change when banners come down. Cloudbet's rating was "C+". The banner came down and they remained "C+".

Betcoinsports got a bump from "C+" to "B-". They have been in business longer than a year and qualified for the upgrade. No poster objected to the upgrade in rating. Look at the changes that Betcoinsports has made to their software. I think it is the best out there and user friendly. Take a look at it. The flashing red and green boxes are great.

legendary
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Stinky, thanks so much for your detailed ratings. It helps us all. We could use more joining in.
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NitroGen is pretty solid, i am using it for e-sport bets, and they have some problems with granting bets(too slow), so when there is a big tournament going on you cant make a multiple bets per day with same deposit, just because you need to wait so long.

Apart from the that, i did not have any other issues with the site, good looks, solid support, near instant deposits, decent speed @withdrawals.

If you dont care about e-sports, i would probably give the site an A- or B+, but for the e-sport bets its just a solid B
Thanks for the input.
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Stinky- I have no idea whi shipper2 is. I would guess a photoshop job. DirectBet has unfortunately derailed the thread again.

Peeps, we were hoping that you will claim that the post was Phothoshopped. You are a professional liar, so we had to set you a trap and you fell right into it LOL...

Peeps, you don't see the post in your Skipper2 account post history because you deleted it after you realized that you mistakenly posted it while being logged in from your Skipper2 account and not from your Peeps Place account.

However, there is a website www.bitcointa.lk that records all posts, even those that were deleted.

Here is the post that you made from your Skipper2 account :

https://bitcointa.lk/threads/ratings-for-all-the-bitcoin-sports-books.252942/page-62#post-7556871
I have no idea who skipper is or why the post was deleted. He never mentions Anonibet in previous posts. Ask him, I don't want to make anymore guesses. I just know that you lie and have been posting that you lie for months. Spin it anyway that you would like. skipper didn't vote for any book other than DirectBet. I'll shoot a PM to skipper.
legendary
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Stinky- I have no idea whi shipper2 is. I would guess a photoshop job. DirectBet has unfortunately derailed the thread again.

Peeps, we were hoping that you will claim that the post was Phothoshopped. You are a professional liar, so we had to set you a trap and you fell right into it LOL...

Peeps, you don't see the post in your Skipper2 account post history because you deleted it after you realized that you mistakenly posted it while being logged in from your Skipper2 account and not from your Peeps Place account.

However, there is a website www.bitcointa.lk that records all posts, even those that were deleted.

Here is the post that you made from your Skipper2 account :

https://bitcointa.lk/threads/ratings-for-all-the-bitcoin-sports-books.252942/page-62#post-7556871
legendary
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Hey Peeps,

Any response to the allegations by DirectBet in their previous post?

I used to come by here all the time and read up on the reviews and get what I deemed to be pretty honest feedback from other BTC gamblers but this thread has unfortunately devolved into a shit flinging contest between you two.

Don't get me wrong, some of it is entertaining and I enjoy playing Sherlock, but the point of this thead now has derailed I feel. 20+ pages of crap from both parties and meanwhile the focus of what this is supposed to be has been lost.

I was one of the people ripped of by coinbet and I wished this thread to be a sort of wake-up call to others and a helpful guide to where your money could both be best spent and be the safest. So following my own criteria, here are my revised ratings:

Nitrogen - A  A great book as far as I can tell, Customer service is exceptional, almost always staff/admins in chat to help out, great promos and trivia, INSTANT WITHDRAWS.  I have had a couple of issues with betslips and some of there rules are different than other sites but I have always received a fast and courteous response from them

DirectBet - B Lots of betting options that other BTC books don't have, INSTANT PAYOUTS of bets, Good promo if you are a high roller but nothing if you are not although they have been running some good contests on here. I give DirectBet a 4 largely because of quick changing lines that used to plague them in the past (*until the opened up the negotiate feature). Bets would sometimes stay unconfirmed for a short period of time or odds would dramatically increase/decrease in the seconds it would take to send from my wallet rendering my bet invalid. That being said, they typically have better live odds than Anonibet, even though both organisations could use some serious improvement in that regard. Overall they have gotten better in the last few months, but still have some room for improvement.
*The other day I sent in a bet on the negotiate feature, I'm not sure of the exact odds change but this is a representation of what happened: Negotiate @3.2 (which was the odds at the time), less than 1 minute later payment is received but odds have dropped to 2.8, change negotiate to 2.8 hit enter, odds drop to 2.6, OKAY, change to 2.6 and odds drop to 2.2, meanwhile nothing significant has happened during the game to make these odds change this much other than other bets coming in I guess.

Anonibet - B- Good live betting options, lots of prop bet options available before games.  The odds are usually not as good as other BTC books, but to be honest they aren't that far off and unfortunately at this time none of the books can hold a candle to fiat. The main problems I have with anonibet is manual cashouts, including times when no one is there to process them and you have to wait until they open back up. Also having to look up open bets can be a pain, and if you are live betting and doing "multiple" or parlay bets they don't show up until after they are graded. You have to search for them through all of your transactions.

Casinobitco.in - B+ Extremely competitive lines. I haven't played here that much, but when I did the only thing that I didn't care for was the user interface. It could use a redesign, but other than that I had no issues with deposits/withdraws

Cloudbet - C+ Had to wait on a withdraw for about 8 hours the last time I withdrew from the site. This is unacceptable, especially for the amount I was withdrawing.

Edited to include A-F ratings not 1-5 ratings.

Stinky- I have no idea who skipper2 is. I would guess a photoshop job. DirectBet has unfortunately derailed the thread again. He got caught with 6 paid/shills/ghosts and now is trying to turn this around.
legendary
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No one seems to have a problem with the upgrade, Betcoinsports upgraded to "B-".

If you wanted another proof that ratings in this guide are paid for, this is it.

BetcoinSports purchased a banner on www.PeepsPlace.com earlier this month and lo and behold, they got upgraded !

Previously, CloudBet had a banner at www.PeepsPlace.com and they were ranked 3rd. Now their banner was replaced by BetcoinSports and as a result BetcoinSports are now ranked 3rd and Cloudbet went down to 5th.

The bottom line is that the top 3 rated books in this "ratings guide" are always the 3 books that are paying for banners at www.PeepsPlace.com and the more you pay Peeps Place, the higher your rating is !
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