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Topic: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated. - page 6. (Read 89556 times)

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do u have a word with anonibet boss? he is not answering me several days...

he say anonitips contest winner is just a regular customer... i want him to explain me how anonitips has a facebook page since 2011 with anonibet address and logo in the contact info...

wait the guy's actual screename he won with is anonitips?  Wow can't get much more obvious that that! haha.  Seriously if this type of crap is true you really should be lowering the Anonibet rating...
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do u have a word with anonibet boss? he is not answering me several days...

he say anonitips contest winner is just a regular customer... i want him to explain me how anonitips has a facebook page since 2011 with anonibet address and logo in the contact info...
legendary
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There are people who rate Bitcoin Sportbooks, and there are people who rate the people that rate Bitcoin Sportbooks.

71% think that Peeps Place does not have the creditability to rate Bitcoin Sportbooks because he is getting paid by Anonibet to rate them on top regardless of public opinion.

What do you think ?

Come and vote in our thread : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=393147.1400
legendary
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BetVIP raised from D+ to C-.

BetVIP is licensed in Curacao. In an earlier post it was asked if any poster had a problem with BetVIP and no problem was stated.

"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)

"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+ (2012)
Betcoinsports B- (2013)
Casinobitcoin B- (2013)

"C" rated books
Cloudbet C+ (2013)
SBObitcoin C+ (2013) *
DirectBet C (2013)
Jetwin C- (2013)
BetOWI C- (2014) *
BetVIP C- (2014)

"D" rated books
Coindraft D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
Webetcoins D+ (2014)
Gobetgo D+ (2014)
Bitbm D


"F" rated books
BetCas F
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC

NR
Darkbet
Betmoose
Fairlay
Cointeller
Bitbook
xbet.io
Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports
Predictious
tdsports


* longer accepting cash deposits



Maximum grade based upon time in business:

A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
F - reserved for books that are slow paying or stiffing players
legendary
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1. Anonibet told me that I can take them off the ratings here at Bitcointalk. I decided it was unfair to allow DirectBet to dictate the rules here and left them up.

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Dear Peepsplace,

I stated on the first post I have posted here on your thread that as Anonibet we do not want to make any comment or post anything. Unless a question was directly asked to us, we do not interfere in your discussions. As we said before, we prefer the thread being used by player for players.

Please do NOT DEFEND OR MENTION ANONIBET in any of your post. If you wish you can delete us from your rating list. We do not want to be part of a discussion with any bookmaker. We have been present since 2011, and this is the best response we can give to anyone.

2. Anonibet has a huge player base outside of bitcointalk. It's my feeling that they are the only book not surviving on bitcointalk and continue to expand their player base.

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ANONIBET.COM IS HIRING

ANONIBET is looking for Area or Country Marketing Managers for the following regions:
Latin America (Spanish and Portuguese)
Russia (Russian)
Scandinavia (Swedish, Finnish, Norwegian)
Asian (all languages except Chinese)

Required skills:
•   Bitcoin enthusiasts with online marketing experiences in their respective countries.
•   Ability to promote Bitcoin and Anonibet
•   Ability to contact local Bitcoin communities and establish partnership
•   Online gambling experience is a plus

Please do NOT post any question to the forum. No answer will be given via the forum.
Please email your CV directly to [email protected] with a short cover letter stating what you can achieve in the country or area you are applying for.

3. With the contest, I talked with two people from Anonibet. There is absolutely no way in the world that the winner wasn't legitimate.
legendary
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DirectBet- For the 10th time Bitcointalk has nothing to do with peepsplace.com.If you advertise at peepsplace.com we plug you at cash forums, not bitcointalk. You are trying to confuse people.
 
 As far as payments, business relationships and what I play, you are wrong. You begged for weeks for us to keep your banner up. We still took it down.


"DirectBet- For the 10th time Bitcointalk has nothing to do with peepsplace.com.If you advertise at peepsplace.com we plug you at cash forums, not bitcointalk."

Your argument is unconvincing. This is what I get from it:

Peeps - "I accept payments from books on one site.

I rate books on another site.

I'm not influenced in any way by the fact that some of the books are paying me to advertise them and to promote them on other forums."



Ironically, the original Peeps ("C.", the late founder of Peeps Place) was contacted by myself long ago.
I asked him if he felt that any of the (fiat) sportsbook ratings sites were unbiased.
His response - "They all give the best ratings to the books who pay them to advertise on their sites".
staff
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Just writing some code

No one is going to agree with the ratings. They are just a guide. The ratings go up and then the top books are asked to advertise at peepsplace.com where we try to convert cash players to bitcoin players. Peepsplace.com and bitcointalk are separate entities. Peepsplace.com has turned down advertising from many bad books.

Updated:

"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)

"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+ (2012)
Betcoinsports B- (2013)
Casinobitcoin B- (2013)

"C" rated books
Cloudbet C+ (2013)
SBObitcoin C+ (2013) *
DirectBet C (2013)
Jetwin C- (2013)
BetOWI C- (2014) *

"D" rated books
Coindraft D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
BetVIP D+ (2014)
Webetcoins D+ (2014)
Gobetgo D+ (2014)
Bitbm D


"F" rated books
BetCas F
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC

NR
Darkbet
Betmoose
Fairlay
Cointeller
Bitbook
xbet.io
Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports
Predictious
tdsports

But you still give Anonibet with A rate??

Anonibet's rating is in line with other sportsbook rating sites. They were the No.2 book with Ryan's poster vote here at bitcointalk until contest allegations.






Yep they're good in bet but really terrible in contest
see my evidence here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7918311
legendary
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No one is going to agree with the ratings. They are just a guide. The ratings go up and then the top books are asked to advertise at peepsplace.com where we try to convert cash players to bitcoin players. Peepsplace.com and bitcointalk are separate entities. Peepsplace.com has turned down advertising from many bad books.

Updated:

"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)

"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+ (2012)
Betcoinsports B- (2013)
Casinobitcoin B- (2013)

"C" rated books
Cloudbet C+ (2013)
SBObitcoin C+ (2013) *
DirectBet C (2013)
Jetwin C- (2013)
BetOWI C- (2014) *

"D" rated books
Coindraft D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
BetVIP D+ (2014)
Webetcoins D+ (2014)
Gobetgo D+ (2014)
Bitbm D


"F" rated books
BetCas F
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC

NR
Darkbet
Betmoose
Fairlay
Cointeller
Bitbook
xbet.io
Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports
Predictious
tdsports

But you still give Anonibet with A rate??

Anonibet's rating is in line with other sportsbook rating sites. They were the No.2 book with Ryan's poster vote here at bitcointalk until contest allegations. DirectBet was very low in Ryan's ratings until DirectBet sent in a team of shills that all rated 5 out of 5 to boost DirectBet's ratings.




legendary
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Hey Peeps I have been looking through every BTC books lines and comparing them to pretty much other books around and honestly at least 90% of the btc books at least 90% of the time for baseball have worse lines by pretty high margins. Something to consider, I don't understand what some of these books are thinking when they put out these lines. It's pretty much all of them too including anonibet, I can pretty much find a better line elsewhere almost all the time. Nitrogen offers better lines than most btc books but I can still almost always get better prices elsewhere. Do u know how much this adds upto over time.
Oh I also don't see it in the threads here but last week 5dimes SBR rated A+ added btc as a deposit option, only deposits as of now too test it out but they plan on adding withdraws once it pans out! I also read if it really works out they might even add to btc and not the switch to usd.
Also I hope all the BTC books are reading this because if u decide not to give use better deals then what do what do u think will happen? Your not the only book out there like u think and if 5dimes adds btc then I would never even place a bet with u unless u had a better line. So now is the time to reconsider your lines bad business plan or u will be out of business within a year.

"Hey Peeps I have been looking through every BTC books lines and comparing them to pretty much other books around and honestly at least 90% of the btc books at least 90% of the time for baseball have worse lines by pretty high margins."

True. I posted about this a few times several months ago when I was betting MLB overnites.

Of the top books on Peeps list ("A" and "B" and maybe also "C") I checked their overnite MLB lines vs. fiat books lines for a few weeks.
Two of the top books don't even have MLB overnite lines.
Of the others, I think 2 times casinobitco had a line that matched the best line I could get at fiat books.
I think another book, maybe nitrogen, had a similar record.

But 99% of the time the best line was at the fiat books.
And most of the top books on Peeps list were not close.

(The above is re: MLB overnight moneylines).



staff
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Just writing some code

No one is going to agree with the ratings. They are just a guide. The ratings go up and then the top books are asked to advertise at peepsplace.com where we try to convert cash players to bitcoin players. Peepsplace.com and bitcointalk are separate entities. Peepsplace.com has turned down advertising from many bad books.

Updated:

"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)

"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+ (2012)
Betcoinsports B- (2013)
Casinobitcoin B- (2013)

"C" rated books
Cloudbet C+ (2013)
SBObitcoin C+ (2013) *
DirectBet C (2013)
Jetwin C- (2013)
BetOWI C- (2014) *

"D" rated books
Coindraft D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
BetVIP D+ (2014)
Webetcoins D+ (2014)
Gobetgo D+ (2014)
Bitbm D


"F" rated books
BetCas F
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC

NR
Darkbet
Betmoose
Fairlay
Cointeller
Bitbook
xbet.io
Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports
Predictious
tdsports

But you still give Anonibet with A rate??
legendary
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Directbet - I think it is very apparent to anyone monitoring this thread whose allegiance Peeps Place reviews correspond to.

Any real people placing bets would know to take these reviews and ratings with a grain of salt.

There is obvious bias here
legendary
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DirectBet, Then you are a two man operation. You have never denied this in the past. Why now?
legendary
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Directbet is just a niche book. They are a one man operation. They have been in operation long enough where improvements should have been made. All one and two men books have gone under when they didn't expand (Bit365, Bitbook, BTCStake). I thought that DirectBet would be a great book at one time but they haven't progressed. One of the bigger books should swallow them soon.

For the record, DirectBet is not a one man operation. Peeps is spreading false information here because he is getting paid by our competitors to do so.

Peeps, how do you know that Anonibet, your top rated Bitcoin sportsbook and the only one you rated A, is not a one man shop ?

Did you meet them in person to verify that ? Or perhaps you are one of them ?

And what do you mean by "expanding" ? Anonibet, your one and only A rated Bitcoin sportsbook, recently had a sports betting contest with 22 BTC prize pool. They exist since 2011 yet only 6 players participated in their contest, some of which are accused of being Anonibet employees.

Is that what you call "expanding" ? Is that sort of expansion needed to get an A rating from you ?

Lets face it Peeps, this is not a true ratings guide, it's a disguised paid advertisement for Anonibet, and the more you blindly defend them, the more it is clear what we have been claiming for months - you work for Anonibet !

The banners that go up at peepsplace.com are put up by owner Reagan. Peepsplace.com has been open since 2003. It's not in Reagan's best interest to hurt his reputation. That's why the DirectBet banner came down. He didn't want the 1% commission any longer.

For the record, Peeps Place never earned any referral commission from DirectBet. We never paid him a dime !

Peeps - show us a proof that we ever paid you a dime.


Several months ago Peeps contacted the top Bitcoin sports betting sites and invited them to advertise on his website, http://www.peepsplace.com

The advertisement deal specifically included promoting the books in forums.

Peeps wanted a fixed price for the deal :



We declined the offer, but Peeps kept nudging several times :



We still refused to take the offer, but apparently others did take it.


Books- Don't think DirectBet was offered a discount. It was BTC + 1%  Grin

legendary
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It's always good to monitor sportsbooks and make sure they are being honest.

I just think your ranking system is deceiving. Why have anonibet above nitrogen or betcoinsports? or even directbet?

It seems like your personal experience and the way you title your thread would indicate otherwise.
legendary
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StakeBTC went under running with player's funds. Here was the review.

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StakeBTC opened to forum members on January 18, 2014, although they have been open to a private group for a longer time. StakeBTC has a maximum bet of 30 BTC and many seem to play with StakeBTC for this reason. Others advertise higher limits but rarely is it available. There are a lot of good things about StakeBTC that I don't even want to mention at this time because of one point. When a sports book offers a 100% bonus with a 2x rollover, that's a huge red flag. The only thing keeping StakeBTC from being a "F", because of that bonus, is that they haven't had one complaint as far as payouts. StakeBTC opens at "D".
legendary
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Here was the warning on bitcoinlivebets. Ryan had them ranked as the 3rd highest book at the time.

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bitcoinlivebets is a very shaky book. They have problems on almost a daily basis and automation is never fully working. Each person has different reasons for playing at a book. I think that bitcoinlivebets is at the top of the list of the next book to go under although I hope it's not the case.
legendary
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I think it's super weird to advertise your own sportbooks review type thread where it's just YOUR opinion. The majority factor being the age of the sportsbook?

At least RyanK has a thread where all the forum users can share their input and create an average for each book as opposed to pegging book A, B, C grades based on personal preference.

Looking through the thread I don't see anyone really caring for these ratings either except for you bumping the thread to keep it alive.

I'm glad that Ryan has a rating site. The more the better.

The grades here are from input from all. Personally I would have DirectBet lower and Jetwin higher. The age of a sportsbook was not even a consideration until posters brought that up. Changes were then made on their suggestions. There have been over 33,000 views since February. There have been lots of contributions.

This thread has helped a couple of players to be paid. Warnings were given on both Coinbet and Bitcoinlivebets before they went under. It's much more than just the opinion of one person.
legendary
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I think it's super weird to advertise your own sportbooks review type thread where it's just YOUR opinion. The majority factor being the age of the sportsbook?

At least RyanK has a thread where all the forum users can share their input and create an average for each book as opposed to pegging book A, B, C grades based on personal preference.

Looking through the thread I don't see anyone really caring for these ratings either except for you bumping the thread to keep it alive.
legendary
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Here's the person that came in 2nd place in the Anonibet contest.

Anonitips
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Hi all, i see some of you still fighting over my 2.nd place, and i would like to clear things out as much as i can or know... please excuse my grammar mistakes as english is not my 1st language...

ok, i am betting on sports for the last 10 years, it has become my passion, i usualy bet at bwin or bet365, but not long ago, maybe 6 months or so i heard about bitcoin, and than i was looking for a poker site to play poker with bitcoins and somehow i crossed in to anonibet... i have previusly run a fb page caled G spot, and it didnt go as well as i wanted so after playing with anonibet i had a vision that maybe if i can get alot of likes i could recive payments for tips in BTC (for example 0.05 per tip.) so i started with anonitips on fb. I wrote www.anonibet.com on my page because i wanted people to know where i bet and where they can bet with their BTCs. in general to promote what i think is a good beting page, afterall the odds are better then the fiat competition... the page is up and running maybe for 2 or so months not since 2011... on the page is also one ticket from bwin(at that time i didnt have BTC so i bet on bwin), wich has a 5.5 odd won and i showd it.... I AM A REGULAR CUSTOMER, I JOIND THIS FORUM BECAUSE I BET ALOT and i thaught this competition was writen on my skin... so, if you have any questions for me, or what ever do ask... i will post my adresses on wich i deposit my btcs on anonibet soon probobly tomorow when i will have time to go trought my email.
legendary
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One/two man shops never make it when they take an extended period of time without expansion.

Most of the bitcoin books start off as a one or two man shop but they expand with success. This is not happening with DirectBet.

Peeps, how do you know that Anonibet, your top rated Bitcoin sportsbook and the only one you rated A, is not a one man shop ?

Did you meet them in person to verify that ? Or perhaps you are one of them ?

And what do you mean by "expanding" ? Anonibet, your one and only A rated Bitcoin sportsbook, recently had a sports betting contest with 22 BTC prize pool. They exists since 2011 yet only 6 players participated in their contest, some of which are accused of being Anonibet employees.

Is that what you call "expanding" ? Is that sort of expansion needed to get an A rating from you ?

Lets face it Peeps, this is not a true ratings guide, it's a disguised paid advertisement for Anonibet, and the more you blindly defend them, the more it is clear what we have been claiming for months - you work for Anonibet !
I'm surprised anyone would even think of using your book after all the bs u have been complaining about for all this time. Not to mention your lines aren't as good as u think they are. You don't even offer to give out dimeline baseball? That alone is a ripoff.

Yes, as bad as it might be perceived to be - this kind of public back-and-forth is shamefully unprofessional and is making the rest of the operators look bad by association.

"Yes, as bad as it might be perceived to be - this kind of public back-and-forth is shamefully unprofessional and is making the rest of the operators look bad by association."

Unbiased ratings are essential if the ratings in this thread are to be trusted and relied on.

If there is an issue, anyone should be able to post about it, whether bettor or book.

I don't see how this is unprofessional, and definitely don't believe it makes other books look bad by association.
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