Topic: 17.2TH/s, 1570W Innosilicon announces the most powerful and efficient BTC Miner - page 12. (Read 6797 times)

Hey are you against asic boost ?

yes or no.

bitmain has hidden asic boost not saying they use it but I am saying it was hidden.

do you agree yes or no?

Inno_silicon has  asic boost and it is not hidden now it is in use.  this means bitmain can no longer use hidden asic boost (not saying they did use it)
  just saying they have it and they hid it.

So bitmain the king of asic gear finally got fucked over by another company and you are against that company

so please explain to me how you are not for bitmain when you are against asic boost.?

I am willing to listen to an explanation if you have one.

If you go back to my first post in this thread


I don't mind the pool limits because I know all pools will switch to asic boost except for antpool and btc.com

and this is an effective way to attack bitmain.

You're right on everything but the bolded, underlined, and italicized line.

Yeah  there are quite a few bitmain shills trying to smear you and me and others..

Unfortunately the asic boost of this chip fully exposes bitmain's 18 plus month ability to use covert asic boost. (not saying they did )

So they just attack anyone with any connection to the chip.

Both of us Have dealings with Myrig not Inno_silicon.

For the record My 5 t1's were offered at 7500 usd by Myrig to me.  I agreed to keep them as I like mining at you pool.

I have yet to pay MyRig the 7500 usd for them.

Since  30% + of the network pools now allow this chip to mine.

Bitmain shills go on the attack.

@ viabtc.com
@ BTC.top   pool  why not join the party and allow asic boost?

https://i.imgur.com/JF3AOgf.png


My thoughts are this anyone against asic boost is for bitmain.

I have a logic for this I think bitumen's s11 does not have asic boost

So they have paid and influenced people against the t1 chip with asic boost.
Because the next chip put out by inno_silicon will be better then the S11.

Apparently someone is misrepresenting me and saying I'm working with Innosilicon on their hardware or software. I repeat: this is not true.

lmao phil just stop postin buddy. This reply is an all time low for you. Not one person (that i have seen in the many posts about it) have said these people r wrong for usin asic boost. every post has been geared towards them bein dogged for forcin asicboost on customers without tellin them. they charged a premium and lied to their customers and hid behind a computer screen pretending like the issue wasnt an issue. You know what happened phil. stop allowing your free hardware that you were supposed to pay for but magically didnt have to cloud ur judgement and encourage u to spew such nonsense. evey shit post u make slides a little further down that hill. its terrible to watch!

u and i know y they forced asicboost on customers too. it was the only way they can fudge the numbers enough to make their miner look like its the fastest most efficient miner. in reality the s9 which is 2 years old running at stock speeds with a proper psu with no asicboost turned on hits numbers above what the t1 does. asicboost adds about 20% efficiency so that 16th/s (that they cant ever hit ne way) is actually 20% lower. that wouldnt help them scam customers so the only option in their mind was to force asicboost so they can justify postin those numbers. just think what would happen if the s9's has asicboost unlocked?? which is already confirmed to be working by multiple other folks. not covert either....the same as the t1. what would halong and inno do then?? i picture a kid stompin on the ground upset because even with lies and number fudgin they still lost.

but the facts were already laid out there for u....free hardware blinds folks. hopefully u wont be trusted with that task in the future.

You can mine NMC in antpool or btc.com

Can you

 A:  work at viabtc.com allowing your miner
B: work at btc.top allowing your miner

I helped bitminter.com add your gear they are allowing it to mine both btc and nmc I think they are the only pool merge mining at the moment.

It would be nice if you can add more pools like the two above.

Many people simply don’t understand the importance of asic boost coming to every pool.
I have been attacked on this for months but I still believe getting every pool on board is very important.

Hello thank you for your feedback. No useless augument, see the trend, all new asic design are racing for AB adoption, stratum mining protocol supports AB,  slush pool, f2pool, ckpool among other private pools are all supporting it, very shortly you will see pools that don't support AB are minority.

I think you need to run this through babelfish again.

This is just pure ignorance.

1. Nobody has EVER proven they used 'covert asicboost'

2. It doesnt work with seg-wit so it would be dead already.

3. I am against halong and inno because they scammed customers by not releasing the GENERALLY ACCEPTED FACT that bitcoin miners can run all sha256 coins, and waiting until preorders were over to tell people they cant.

I really didnt expect you to be one of those tin foil hat people but this is just sooooo ignorant I had to say something. So much misinformation is put out by people considered experts on here, its kind of depressing.

I was actually asked if I'd be willing to review the Halong Mining Dragonmint T2, but then something happened and soon after that I realised that Inno is releasing the T2 miner..

There has been no further discussion about the Halong T2 review after that.

Other manufactures besides BM sell from 1 on up.
Canaan does through their world-wide network of distributors. Check canaan.io for their list of Authorized Distributors.

As for Inno's T2's, since MyRig sells the T1's (made by Inno for Halong) with any luck MyRig will also act as a distributor for the Ts'2. If they do then moq will not be an issue.

MOQ 100 units? Thats a big F.U. I dont like Bitmain but at least they let the little guy order just 1 if he wants to and they seem to be the only big player that does so.

No, we are not. We are saying that Inno either needs to provide incentive for pool operators to make the needed changes OR at a minimum let people know the miners do not work on just any pool they want to use. Even better would be being able to turn AB on/off to make pool support a moot point.

As for Bitmain & covert AB: After the kerfuffle about it last year all support code was removed from the firmware. Could BM just apply their own private FW to use it? Sure. Do the s9 chips even still have AB circuits in them - unknown. Thing is there has never been any proof of Bitmain ever using AB outside of Testnet and they are on Public record stating that. Provide proof of covert AB being used and then you have a viable argument.

I am not against AB per-se. If it will give a slight improvement, great. I am strongly opposed to how Little Dragon LLC/Halong Mining chose to implement it by initially literally sneaking into their miners without letting potential buyers know that critical bit of info and then doing NOTHING about encouraging/helping/giving incentive for pools to use it. If a manufacturer is pushing for a new de-facto standard then it is up to said mfgr to encourage acceptance of the new standard by working with the pool operators so the wanna-be standard is supported right out the gate at product launch. Once again, in their hubris Halong and now Inno could care less about the BTC ecosystem or being truthful to their customers.

Translate this  and you are saying let bitmain  keep its secret asic boost on its own pools.

Anyone against halong or inno_silicon  using asic boost is supporting bitmains covert asic boost.

Agree. Time to get more efficient period without asicboost.

And once again in your website miner specs you are leaving out 1 very critical piece of information: THESE MINERS ONLY WORK WITH POOLS THAT SUPPORT ASIC BOOST. You CANNOT just point them at you favorite pool and expect them to work. If the pool does not support AB the miners will not even connect to it.

Until Inno convinces all or at least the majority of pools to support AB these miners are useless for many of us.

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Innosilicon hasn't been too bad to work with but other manufacturers are much, much easier. Take this perspective with a grain of salt as we have only been placing orders with them for a week or so but seems routine thus far and shipping confirms are coming as expected.   

In agreement though that a 17th/s unit is pretty irrelevant in market, unless extremely competitive in price with current asics. More excited for more announcements and improved efficiencies. It would be nice if manufacturers took a more traditional approach to wholesale pricing but we can't expect that to change anytime soon.

Where did you all see the MOQ listing? I can forward this to our web and see if their wanting to list for group buys but I think we all can agree there might not be much interest.