2019 Cricket World Cup - Discussion & Analysis - page 34.

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Quote from: Pffrt on May 14, 2019, 12:00:42 AM

Quote from: Haunebu on May 10, 2019, 02:14:39 AM

If the Indian team manage to win the first couple of matches, they would have adapted to the conditions pretty quickly giving them an advantage over other teams. It won't be easy though since their first couple of matches are against SA and AUS.

I don't think it will be too hard. There was a time India only used to play with the batsman. They almost in all match won by their batting. But now, they have a balanced team and most of the key players are experienced. I don't think condition will be a issue. They can easily adapt with it.

Yeah... I remember when medium pacers like Venkatesh Prasad used to open the bowling for India (with average speed of 75 mph). Back then, Javagal Sreenath was the only genuine fast bowler. In some of the matches, India used to go with one pacer and three spinners (Kumble was the undisputed king of spin bowling back then). But now, they have a lot of choice with respect to fast bowling - Mohammed Shami, Ishant Sharma, Varun Aaron, Umesh Yadav.etc. And many of these guys can bowl in excess of 90 mph.

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Quote from: Haunebu on May 10, 2019, 02:14:39 AM

If the Indian team manage to win the first couple of matches, they would have adapted to the conditions pretty quickly giving them an advantage over other teams. It won't be easy though since their first couple of matches are against SA and AUS.

I would say First 4 matches are very important for India and not a very easy task IMO. we can talk about how strong this Indian team is but this is big competition "world cup" and Indian team can't afford to make any mistake here. jeez I am getting nervous tbh lol

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Quote from: Pffrt on May 14, 2019, 12:00:42 AM

Quote from: Haunebu on May 10, 2019, 02:14:39 AM

If the Indian team manage to win the first couple of matches, they would have adapted to the conditions pretty quickly giving them an advantage over other teams. It won't be easy though since their first couple of matches are against SA and AUS.

I don't think it will be too hard. There was a time India only used to play with the batsman. They almost in all match won by their batting. But now, they have a balanced team and most of the key players are experienced. I don't think condition will be a issue. They can easily adapt with it.

That remains to be seen. Some players are in form currently while some are out of form. India can only lift the cup this year if all players maintain great form irrespective of how their form was during the recent IPL season. Lets see what happens.

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Quote from: Haunebu on May 10, 2019, 02:14:39 AM

If the Indian team manage to win the first couple of matches, they would have adapted to the conditions pretty quickly giving them an advantage over other teams. It won't be easy though since their first couple of matches are against SA and AUS.

I don't think it will be too hard. There was a time India only used to play with the batsman. They almost in all match won by their batting. But now, they have a balanced team and most of the key players are experienced. I don't think condition will be a issue. They can easily adapt with it.

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Quote from: susila_bai on May 09, 2019, 06:24:57 AM

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Quote from: Haunebu on May 04, 2019, 01:55:23 AM

Quote from: Sithara007 on May 04, 2019, 12:29:29 AM

Teams such as India are going to struggle during the first 2-3 matches while adjusting with the conditions. I won't be very surprised if there are a few upsets during this phase.

Not expecting any upsets because what you said goes both ways. The current Indian squad are capable of adjusting to foreign conditions pretty quickly and their recent performances in Aus and NZ proves that.

Teams such as West Indies, Bangladesh and Afghanistan will be touring England this week and taking part in triangular ODI tournaments. So obviously they have the advantage when compared to the other teams. I guess two warm-up matches are scheduled for India, but it may not be enough. Playing the IPL in India (where the temperature can be up to 45 degrees) and then coming to England where the night temperature can fall to 10 degrees can be tough.

Exactly two warm-up matches are not enough for the Indian team. Because while playing in India the team has to experience a warmer environment and in England, they are goanna experience the lower temperature which gives them a completely different scenario and these thing impacts on players performances. As well, not only temperature but also pitches are in England are very different from Indian pitches.

Shoud be enough in my opinion. You think this is the first time they are playing on such pitches? They have tons of expected in this area which is why this is not an issue. They just need to adapt as quickly as possible.

What you said is correct, whether 2 or more games it is upto the players to adapt as soon as possible because in world cup league if you make one error their is not recovery for that as only one game is played against each team. So win as much and be in good position

If the Indian team manage to win the first couple of matches, they would have adapted to the conditions pretty quickly giving them an advantage over other teams. It won't be easy though since their first couple of matches are against SA and AUS.

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Quote from: Haunebu on May 09, 2019, 05:51:53 AM

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Quote from: Haunebu on May 04, 2019, 01:55:23 AM

Quote from: Sithara007 on May 04, 2019, 12:29:29 AM

Teams such as India are going to struggle during the first 2-3 matches while adjusting with the conditions. I won't be very surprised if there are a few upsets during this phase.

Not expecting any upsets because what you said goes both ways. The current Indian squad are capable of adjusting to foreign conditions pretty quickly and their recent performances in Aus and NZ proves that.

Teams such as West Indies, Bangladesh and Afghanistan will be touring England this week and taking part in triangular ODI tournaments. So obviously they have the advantage when compared to the other teams. I guess two warm-up matches are scheduled for India, but it may not be enough. Playing the IPL in India (where the temperature can be up to 45 degrees) and then coming to England where the night temperature can fall to 10 degrees can be tough.

Exactly two warm-up matches are not enough for the Indian team. Because while playing in India the team has to experience a warmer environment and in England, they are goanna experience the lower temperature which gives them a completely different scenario and these thing impacts on players performances. As well, not only temperature but also pitches are in England are very different from Indian pitches.

Shoud be enough in my opinion. You think this is the first time they are playing on such pitches? They have tons of expected in this area which is why this is not an issue. They just need to adapt as quickly as possible.

What you said is correct, whether 2 or more games it is upto the players to adapt as soon as possible because in world cup league if you make one error their is not recovery for that as only one game is played against each team. So win as much and be in good position

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Quote from: neonshium on May 09, 2019, 05:40:46 AM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on May 04, 2019, 06:20:55 AM

Quote from: Haunebu on May 04, 2019, 01:55:23 AM

Quote from: Sithara007 on May 04, 2019, 12:29:29 AM

Teams such as India are going to struggle during the first 2-3 matches while adjusting with the conditions. I won't be very surprised if there are a few upsets during this phase.

Not expecting any upsets because what you said goes both ways. The current Indian squad are capable of adjusting to foreign conditions pretty quickly and their recent performances in Aus and NZ proves that.

Teams such as West Indies, Bangladesh and Afghanistan will be touring England this week and taking part in triangular ODI tournaments. So obviously they have the advantage when compared to the other teams. I guess two warm-up matches are scheduled for India, but it may not be enough. Playing the IPL in India (where the temperature can be up to 45 degrees) and then coming to England where the night temperature can fall to 10 degrees can be tough.

Exactly two warm-up matches are not enough for the Indian team. Because while playing in India the team has to experience a warmer environment and in England, they are goanna experience the lower temperature which gives them a completely different scenario and these thing impacts on players performances. As well, not only temperature but also pitches are in England are very different from Indian pitches.

Shoud be enough in my opinion. You think this is the first time they are playing on such pitches? They have tons of experience in this area which is why this is not an issue. They just need to adapt as quickly as possible.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on May 04, 2019, 06:20:55 AM

Quote from: Haunebu on May 04, 2019, 01:55:23 AM

Quote from: Sithara007 on May 04, 2019, 12:29:29 AM

Teams such as India are going to struggle during the first 2-3 matches while adjusting with the conditions. I won't be very surprised if there are a few upsets during this phase.

Not expecting any upsets because what you said goes both ways. The current Indian squad are capable of adjusting to foreign conditions pretty quickly and their recent performances in Aus and NZ proves that.

Teams such as West Indies, Bangladesh and Afghanistan will be touring England this week and taking part in triangular ODI tournaments. So obviously they have the advantage when compared to the other teams. I guess two warm-up matches are scheduled for India, but it may not be enough. Playing the IPL in India (where the temperature can be up to 45 degrees) and then coming to England where the night temperature can fall to 10 degrees can be tough.

Exactly two warm-up matches are not enough for the Indian team. Because while playing in India the team has to experience a warmer environment and in England, they are goanna experience the lower temperature which gives them a completely different scenario and these thing impacts on players performances. As well, not only temperature but also pitches are in England are very different from Indian pitches.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on May 07, 2019, 11:55:15 AM

Quote from: Haunebu on May 07, 2019, 11:49:01 AM

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Both of us have been losing a lot of bets lately. We need to do more research and analyze in a better manner in order to predict in a better manner.

If England would have lost, it would have been absolutely insane and would dampen their spirit ahead of the World Cup.

I had one bet today,
Bangladesh to win @ 1.99
Chennai Super Kings to win @ 2.11

I was worried about the Bangladesh team when I placed the bet but seems like the opposite one is happening. Bangladesh is going to have an easy win and CSK is going to lose shamelessly :-D

I still wonder, why didn't they score some quick runs?

Happens sometimes. CSK is filled with inconsistent players apart from a few like MSD through out this season, but no one noticed it too much thanks to them winning continuously through out the tournament.

They still have another chance. Lets see what they do about it.

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Quote from: Haunebu on May 07, 2019, 11:49:01 AM

~snip~
Both of us have been losing a lot of bets lately. We need to do more research and analyze in a better manner in order to predict in a better manner.

If England would have lost, it would have been absolutely insane and would dampen their spirit ahead of the World Cup.

I had one bet today,
Bangladesh to win @ 1.99
Chennai Super Kings to win @ 2.11

I was worried about the Bangladesh team when I placed the bet but seems like the opposite one is happening. Bangladesh is going to have an easy win and CSK is going to lose shamelessly :-D

I still wonder, why didn't they score some quick runs?

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on May 07, 2019, 08:11:08 AM

Quote from: Haunebu on May 07, 2019, 07:20:59 AM

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I wouldn't call losing 6 wickets one sided here. Ireland bowled well and it seemed like England underestimated them. A couple more wickets and Ireland would be jumping with joy. England needs to improve their game here even if major players are missing.

Also, Tom Curran has done a wonderful job once again with both bat and ball.

I was watching ball by ball score of that match because of my bet and I am telling you that it was stressful to watch. They needed tons of runs but they did not have wickets in hand until that partnership worked out.

In one stage it was obvious that England was going to lose if Ireland could get the wicket early or even in the middle of the partnership. Anyway, it's gone and that lose of my bet was part of the process.

Both of us have been losing a lot of bets lately. We need to do more research and analyze in a better manner in order to predict in a better manner.

If England would have lost, it would have been absolutely insane and would dampen their spirit ahead of the World Cup.

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Quote from: Haunebu on May 07, 2019, 07:20:59 AM

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I wouldn't call losing 6 wickets one sided here. Ireland bowled well and it seemed like England underestimated them. A couple more wickets and Ireland would be jumping with joy. England needs to improve their game here even if major players are missing.

Also, Tom Curran has done a wonderful job once again with both bat and ball.

I was watching ball by ball score of that match because of my bet and I am telling you that it was stressful to watch. They needed tons of runs but they did not have wickets in hand until that partnership worked out.

In one stage it was obvious that England was going to lose if Ireland could get the wicket early or even in the middle of the partnership. Anyway, it's gone and that lose of my bet was part of the process.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on May 07, 2019, 06:21:33 AM

Anyway that match in between Ireland vs England was once one sided for Ireland.

I wouldn't call losing 6 wickets one sided here. Ireland bowled well and it seemed like England underestimated them. A couple more wickets and Ireland would be jumping with joy. England needs to improve their game here even if major players are missing.

Also, Tom Curran has done a wonderful job once again with both bat and ball.

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Quote from: JSRAW on May 05, 2019, 09:46:21 AM

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Don't know how to react in this situation. just be careful for next time and try to put your eggs carefully-with proper analysis, not just based on who giving odds rates high.

I thought you already took your break before and started after break?

It was a short break :-P
It's hard to control emotion when I see good odds.
Anyway that match in between Ireland vs England was once one sided for Ireland.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on May 04, 2019, 11:17:41 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on May 04, 2019, 08:18:04 AM

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LOL it did not.
Over smartness lost me a lot yesterday.

In one stage it was obvious that England was going to lose. So I cashed out whatever left then put all of the money with some new deposit for Ireland and guess what game started to turn around for England LOL

I did not bet for KKR

So, eventually I lost a lot :-P

I am thinking to take a long break from gambling, making too many wrong decisions and it's costing me a lot.

Don't know how to react in this situation. just be careful for next time and try to put your eggs carefully-with proper analysis, not just based on who giving odds rates high.

I thought you already took your break before and started after break?

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After their good showing against England, Ireland are back to their old ways. West Indies is performing really well, considering the fact that more than half of their squad is away in India, playing the IPL. The Irish bowling looks quite clueless, with both the pacers as well as the spinners going for the runs. John Campbell and Shai Hope batting really well, which can present a dilemma to the selectors once Gayle is back.

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Quote from: Haunebu on May 05, 2019, 03:16:56 AM

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Looks like you misunderstood what I was trying to say here.

LOL I guess I did :-) Apologies.

By the way, anyone is following West Indies vs Ireland? I am following the score while I am watching the IPL.

West Indies are doing very well which they should. After 15 over their run is 71 without losing any wicket.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on May 04, 2019, 01:35:54 PM

Quote from: Haunebu on May 04, 2019, 01:28:57 PM

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Agreed. The Indian team players are experienced players who know how to play under different conditions and the point I mentioned about how they dominated Aus and NZ in their backyards clarifies that.

It all comes down to individual player performances at the end.

Excuse me but I thought they lost the home ODI series against Australia. The result was 2 - 3. They won the first two matches then they lost the rest of the three matches if I can recall it currently.

India used to play bad cricket in their abroad but from last few years they improved a lot. They in fact like the English wicket these days.

Edit:
Yap, just checked and I was not wrong : http://www.espncricinfo.com/scores/team/2/australia?date=201903
:-D

Lol. I clearly mentioned that the Indian team decimated Aus and NZ teams in their own backyards(Aus and NZ). They even scripted a historic test series win against Aus. I never talked about them playing at home which I do know that they lost 3-2.

Looks like you misunderstood what I was trying to say here.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on May 04, 2019, 11:17:41 AM

I am thinking to take a long break from gambling, making too many wrong decisions and it's costing me a lot.

Are you thinking of missing the world cup too? Lol, I think you should be more careful when you bet. Or recruit a person to do the analysis part deeply with a good success ratio Grin

Quote from: Sithara007 on May 05, 2019, 12:07:34 AM

Today West Indies is playing a ODI match against Ireland (at Dublin). It will give an idea about how the West Indies players are adjusting to the weather conditions. But the point to remember here is that WI is not having a full strength squad. Half of their world cup squad is playing the IPL in India and won't be in England before the tournament is over.

West Indies has some good players. They will play good in WC but not now probably since you mentioned some of their good players are still in IPL.

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Today West Indies is playing a ODI match against Ireland (at Dublin). It will give an idea about how the West Indies players are adjusting to the weather conditions. But the point to remember here is that WI is not having a full strength squad. Half of their world cup squad is playing the IPL in India and won't be in England before the tournament is over.

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