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October 12, 2022, 05:16:21 PM
"Fined but not suspended."
https://www.nba.com/news/draymond-green-fined
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Draymond Green has been fined but won’t be suspended by the Golden State Warriors for a violent punch to the face of teammate Jordan Poole last week.

Coach Steve Kerr said after Tuesday’s preseason win against Portland that Green would return to practice Thursday, then play for the defending NBA champions against Denver on Friday night and again in the season opener Tuesday against the Lakers. Kerr, general manager Bob Myers and players have met to decide how to best proceed — including Green and Poole talking to each other.
Watching porn or having a relationship inside the team is worst now than knocking down your teammate.  Cheesy
Here I thought NBA is getting stricter about its rules but I am back to the reality that they are not. Leaked video or not they should be fair about their punishments. What if other players will try the same thing and no camera caught it? Even if there is, they won't be afraid to do it too because they can pay up.
It's safe to assume that this had been the most controversial summer of the league. So many happened in just months of waiting before the tip-off.
Their management gone soft eh? The aggressor would have been suspended in any regular workplace setting. It says in the article that the two involved kinda mend ties with the intervention of Curry but the management should have taken a harder stance. I understand that it's a club decision but they must still send the right message to the basketball community.
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October 12, 2022, 04:53:41 PM
He is already polished, but yeah, I believed that there are rooms for improvement, he is still very young and the opportunity is there for him in the Warriors, putting aside the difference with Green and hopefully they will still be very professional and will play to bring the Warriors another ring this season.

And we have also seen Wiseman in the pre-games and yes the hype is real for this kind. Warriors is still very dangerous team and who knows, they can retain the championship.
Absolutely!
Jordan Poole is still being polished... and I have no doubt he will be a standout player and probably allstar playey, because his potential is extremely huge
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October 12, 2022, 04:46:50 PM
Scary moment for the Charlotte Hornets today as LaMelo Ball screamed out in pain driving to the lane. It looked like a bad ankle injury, which it was, but doctors just confirmed it’s a sprain so he’ll be back before too long. He is expected to miss the first few games of the year but I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s ready to go for the start of the season.
I think the injury will just last after the preseason so we will see this talented young gun in the season and hope the rest that missed this preseason debut. I wouldn't be surprised as well, there are lot of players right now that is going to be exciting to watch if they're healthy and LaMelo is one of that, Zion, Kawhi to name a few.
The good news is he walked back to locker room, which means that he must be doing something right, and there is nothing wrong with that. I am not saying that he is fine or anything, but even if he is injured for a period of time, it would probably not be anytime that would be long enough to bother anyone.

Hornets are not that great anyway, so they could take the time to let him heal as good as he would, because that means we are talking about them losing games but with him on the floor they still lose anyway. MJ was one of the greatest, probably the greatest ever basketball player ever lived, but he is definitely not a good owner at all by the looks of how the team has done since he took over.
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October 12, 2022, 04:27:52 PM
I'm taking a look at the over under for wins this year and looking at the Knicks it seems low in my head.  High 30s (38.5), they had that last year and added a good point guard in jalen brunson.  They didn't have a pg last year which should easily add a coue wins.  And the young guys have another year under theor belt and didn't lose anyone too impactful.  Randle had a down year.  I'm not saying they are competing for anything significant but they have a way better shot hitting the over than the under on this.  Am I just being a Homer fan?  I can see them split the difference and hit low 40s, if luck is on the side maybe mid to high 40s?

I think you could probably expect to have a similar win total as last year, only needing 1.5 more wins with these things that have changed, I'd say is a decent bet.  But then again I don't know the Knicks like you do and perhaps you are being a homer, I wouldn't know for sure lol. 

The Bulls win total is ugly. They've got it at 41.5 after having 46 wins last year.  Which I guess is fair being that the Bulls don't know yet what they're getting w/Ball, or if he even ends up playing at all in 2023 (which is sickening and pretty much ruins the season for me.  Not that I expected them to win it all w/him, but still, at least we'd get to see what the Bulls are really like at full health).

Honestly I like that number.  Bulls at basically a .500 club is a good bet for the over.  Lots of teams in the East around the same talent level is what is muddling the waters.  But I can see the bulls having the same type of year as last year and not regress.  I'm gon a pull the trigger on that one.
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October 12, 2022, 04:23:44 PM
I am sure that a lot of teams are going to want to get Green on the team. But the Lakers are not one of them. I think Brooklyn NETS might be a good destination for Green. The Nets might let Joe Harris and another player go to get Green. But I am just assuming.
The Brooklyn Nets will mess up what they worked hard for at putting Simmons, Kyrie, and KD in good form if they bring him in. I don't think they will add another piece to that roster that could break their chemistry or whatever leadership they already agreed with.
I don't think the Nets have any real interest in Green.  Besides him being a 1-year rental for them at this point, he doesn't mesh well with the team they've built.  His game is a perfect match for Steph and Klay because they can both change the game coming off screens for quick shots.  The Nets have guys that all create their own shot, so I don't expect that many of their attempts will be made off screens.  They're also not a run and gun type of team where Draymond's smaller size for his position plays an advantage.  I think a better pairing would be the Lakers waiting until the offseason to see if they can get Green and Buddy Hield for cheap.

I agree with this statement as well. The Nets are not looking to create any problems between the players and the chemistry that they already have built just to bring Green in. However, I also do not think that Green is a necessity for the Lakers either. If they can get Green for a cheap price, sure, go for it.

However, I am highly doubtful about Green's ability to actually settle in with the Lakers and be a part of the team's success. Unless he is able to provide something while the team is on the offense. Which I am sure he cannot unless he has the ball in his hand.

So, in conclusion, Green's return to the Nets seems to have fallen through. As it turns out, Laker's move has some positive aspects. But I think that the move might happen if the Lakers get him for a cheap price.


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October 12, 2022, 09:15:43 AM
And we have also seen Wiseman in the pre-games and yes the hype is real for this kind. Warriors is still very dangerous team and who knows, they can retain the championship.
Wiseman performance is really like a beast on the pre season, I think he could be an MVP player since all of matches his performance isn't decreasing. Warriors has been known to become a champion since 2015, obviously anyone will think Warriors could become a champion in this season too. But it's still pre season and everything can change in the future. Bulls, Lakers and Celtics shouldn't be underestimated here, their performance also good.

Lakers even beat Warriors on the previous match, even though the points are really close.
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October 12, 2022, 07:56:49 AM
"Fined but not suspended."
https://www.nba.com/news/draymond-green-fined
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Draymond Green has been fined but won’t be suspended by the Golden State Warriors for a violent punch to the face of teammate Jordan Poole last week.

Coach Steve Kerr said after Tuesday’s preseason win against Portland that Green would return to practice Thursday, then play for the defending NBA champions against Denver on Friday night and again in the season opener Tuesday against the Lakers. Kerr, general manager Bob Myers and players have met to decide how to best proceed — including Green and Poole talking to each other.
Watching porn or having a relationship inside the team is worst now than knocking down your teammate.  Cheesy
Here I thought NBA is getting stricter about its rules but I am back to the reality that they are not. Leaked video or not they should be fair about their punishments. What if other players will try the same thing and no camera caught it? Even if there is, they won't be afraid to do it too because they can pay up.
It's safe to assume that this had been the most controversial summer of the league. So many happened in just months of waiting before the tip-off.
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October 12, 2022, 07:11:21 AM
Aside from the fact that he really have some skills, he is doing everything he could and bring a good performance even if it was just a pre-season game because he is aiming for the Warriors to give him an extension. I mean, any team could probably give him the figure he wanted because he is really a superstar in the making but only the Warriors these days can help him to have more rings in the future.
Yes, this is a reality!
I believe the Warriors are giving Poole a great opportunity to grow. Not to mention, he will have some experienced players to help him, for example Curry and Thompson.
If he improves, gaining consistency and others important attributes, he will become a great diamond that the Warriors are polishing.

From the way GSW building Poole, seems to me that they are really bringing everything out from this young star,
they are giving all the minutes that he needed to fuel up and showcasing his skills and talents.

That is right, because they know that Poole could be the next Steph or Klay, or someone that will help the team to accomplished their next goal. So Steve Kerr is giving him up exposure, just like last season. To help him gain more confidence and he is showing it already in the pre-season game.

That kind of confidence that once being given to Steph, and if Poole continues making that impact, it is safe to
assume that he might be the next main alpha of this team. He just needed to stay down like how Steph is doing
and let the fans bring more support, still young and just like how you describe it, he's a diamond that the team
is polishing and for sure it will be paid by millions of dollars. Just keep improving and let the future dictate for his
career's directions.

I can't compare it to Curry though, it was a different setup, he was a rookie back then but the Warriors knows that he is future good player. And so they traded Monta Ellis to let Steph lead the team.
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October 12, 2022, 06:41:29 AM
Aside from the fact that he really have some skills, he is doing everything he could and bring a good performance even if it was just a pre-season game because he is aiming for the Warriors to give him an extension. I mean, any team could probably give him the figure he wanted because he is really a superstar in the making but only the Warriors these days can help him to have more rings in the future.
Yes, this is a reality!
I believe the Warriors are giving Poole a great opportunity to grow. Not to mention, he will have some experienced players to help him, for example Curry and Thompson.
If he improves, gaining consistency and others important attributes, he will become a great diamond that the Warriors are polishing.

He is already polished, but yeah, I believed that there are rooms for improvement, he is still very young and the opportunity is there for him in the Warriors, putting aside the difference with Green and hopefully they will still be very professional and will play to bring the Warriors another ring this season.

And we have also seen Wiseman in the pre-games and yes the hype is real for this kind. Warriors is still very dangerous team and who knows, they can retain the championship.
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October 12, 2022, 06:05:13 AM
Aside from the fact that he really have some skills, he is doing everything he could and bring a good performance even if it was just a pre-season game because he is aiming for the Warriors to give him an extension. I mean, any team could probably give him the figure he wanted because he is really a superstar in the making but only the Warriors these days can help him to have more rings in the future.
Yes, this is a reality!
I believe the Warriors are giving Poole a great opportunity to grow. Not to mention, he will have some experienced players to help him, for example Curry and Thompson.
If he improves, gaining consistency and others important attributes, he will become a great diamond that the Warriors are polishing.

From the way GSW building Poole, seems to me that they are really bringing everything out from this young star,
they are giving all the minutes that he needed to fuel up and showcasing his skills and talents.

That kind of confidence that once being given to Steph, and if Poole continues making that impact, it is safe to
assume that he might be the next main alpha of this team. He just needed to stay down like how Steph is doing
and let the fans bring more support, still young and just like how you describe it, he's a diamond that the team
is polishing and for sure it will be paid by millions of dollars. Just keep improving and let the future dictate for his
career's directions.
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October 12, 2022, 03:55:20 AM
Only Warriors who can decide if they will give him the contract that he wanted, and yes, it's true that if in anyhow warriors will not
grant it and let him be available for a trade,

Other team will surely grab that opportunities and give him the contract might be possible that he will be offered much higher
with the skills that he is showing now, interest from other teams is no longer a secret.

For now, it will be on the Warriors decision making if what will they do with regard to Poole's contract.


If the warriors want to get Poole for cheap, they will wait for a year and let Poole go to a restricted free agent. They will then wait for offers from other teams and match the offer. Just like what the Suns had done to Ayton.

But if they want to lock down Poole and make him happy, they will offer the max extension. If they consider him as the future of GSW, they will surely make the offer. If not, they will just have to wait for a year and they can have him cheaper.

But Jordan Poole's family is looking at the opposite direction and wanted to sue Draymond Green because of his lack of unprofessionalism. Green's reasons doesn't change anything because it was his own fault as he brought his problems in their practice, now he got to pay the price because Poole's family is taking some legal action.
I've seen this news and while many have thought that the two were okay already. Here goes the news that Poole's family is pursuing to file a case against Draymond.
Well, that's a real family there that won't tolerate such violence that has been done to their family member. It's now on Poole's family if they're going to let it pass or if Draymond apologize to them for what he's done even though he's already said it.
It's always been a different approach when it's your family that has to deal with it.

I hope Poole can control his family if he still wants to play with Draymond. Otherwise, it will put stress between their relationship and the team as well. If it won't go well, I think GSW management will be forced to choose between Poole and Green, who will they keep and who will they trade.

Depends on the contract situation. Westbrook only has one year left, and so does Green if I am not wrong, which means that by the end of the year we are going to see both of them being fired or at least hired for much much cheaper.

Draymond still has a players option in his contract. If he decides to use it, he can still play with GSW. Unless there is a good offer from other teams, I think he will exercise his player options.

But, Lebron is not getting any younger neither, sure he is going to be a good player even at 40, but to expect him to deliver a ring to Lakers all over again after 37-38 is something too much to ask from him, not impossible but would be very very tough, and I think even he would rather have someone better. So, it's clear that Green is not that guy, at the start of the year there was a talk between Irving-Westbrook trade, that's what they needed.

Does Irving still want to carry Lebron (assuming he can)? I think he does not want to do it and not get the credits, since if you are playing with Lebron, you do not get the credit, but you get all the blame.
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October 12, 2022, 03:29:25 AM

Right, he already knows what to do in-terms of offensive play but what about during defense? People are hyping him especially from the Philippines because he will be the first full-blooded Filipino basketball player to play in the NBA, but his fans should also know that he is not that ready, and he will just get embarrassed because he is still raw mainly in his defense capabilities. He should work that out as his future role is a center, he can't avoid the times when there will be a player who will try to embarrass him inside.

Well, I am hyping him up because he is a fellow Filipino, but after that Exhibition match with the Oklahoma Thunder, he isn't showing great defensive skill, I know he is given just 8 mins to play in the game or if he's even having beef with not having the ball or the coach doesn't really recognize his potential I think all of them in the team is given equal time to be playing, he isn't just fit to be on the court the whole time, but I think he should have shown that he has what it take from offense to defense that he is ready, we Filipino really is quick to judge on a certain situation but we really don't get the whole picture of things,


Draymond Green is nothing without his desired teammates, the splash brothers, and the other championship core during their dominance. To cover his lack of good performance, he's now becoming the advisor of their young cores but sometimes, there's might be a time that he is below the belt.

I know Green already realized what he did wrong. He apologized to Poole already. That's the start of forming much-good chemistry between him and Poole.

I think social media really lit the fire to the extent that it became a forest fire, Draymond Green has said his apology and I think it is on Jordan Poole if he would accept that apology, Draymond and Steve Kerr added in his days playing with the Chicago Bulls it is pretty much standard for teammates to have something like this, and with Michael Jordan, on your team, it will be a lot of trash talking, this could be a normal trash talk gone pretty much bad, but amidst all of this fire lit if the two could say they're sorry and would definitely makeup, those bond will be a lot stronger I think this is just a friend fight and nothing that huge, the Warriors, in my opinion, could still stick as glue when it comes to the finals

Well, anyway this is really not a huge problem for the Golden State Warriors their real problem would be if they win the Championship title again those salary increases will be just as bad as their players have scuffled some altercation like this,
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October 12, 2022, 03:07:39 AM
Wiseman really looks good vs against the Blazers, good block on Jeremi Grant.

Yeah, Wiseman had a great night. 18 points in 18 minutes and a +/- of 26. I hope Steve Kerr reconsiders and gives him some minutes this season. He’s one of the best young prospects in the NBA but has barely seen the floor. He’s also exactly what the Warriors need. I think in the post-Draymond era he’ll end up being one of the most important players on the team.

For sure Wiseman will be green lit this season, we have been waiting for Wiseman and we wanted to see how good this kid is since last year. Warriors are known to developed young talents, or at least has a keen eye for it. And they have a lot in the bench right now for them and yeah, he could be the future of the team if ever Draymond departs next year or not being sign by the Warriors.
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October 12, 2022, 03:07:22 AM
Aside from the fact that he really have some skills, he is doing everything he could and bring a good performance even if it was just a pre-season game because he is aiming for the Warriors to give him an extension. I mean, any team could probably give him the figure he wanted because he is really a superstar in the making but only the Warriors these days can help him to have more rings in the future.
Yes, this is a reality!
I believe the Warriors are giving Poole a great opportunity to grow. Not to mention, he will have some experienced players to help him, for example Curry and Thompson.
If he improves, gaining consistency and others important attributes, he will become a great diamond that the Warriors are polishing.
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October 12, 2022, 12:14:59 AM
Scary moment for the Charlotte Hornets today as LaMelo Ball screamed out in pain driving to the lane. It looked like a bad ankle injury, which it was, but doctors just confirmed it’s a sprain so he’ll be back before too long. He is expected to miss the first few games of the year but I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s ready to go for the start of the season.
I think the injury will just last after the preseason so we will see this talented young gun in the season and hope the rest that missed this preseason debut. I wouldn't be surprised as well, there are lot of players right now that is going to be exciting to watch if they're healthy and LaMelo is one of that, Zion, Kawhi to name a few.
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October 12, 2022, 12:08:15 AM
Scary moment for the Charlotte Hornets today as LaMelo Ball screamed out in pain driving to the lane. It looked like a bad ankle injury, which it was, but doctors just confirmed it’s a sprain so he’ll be back before too long. He is expected to miss the first few games of the year but I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s ready to go for the start of the season.

That was really heartbreaking because he is one of the star players that will be exploding this upcoming season. Thankfully it was not serious and he will get back soon after a few games of absence. I'm sure this will gonna make changes for the rest of remaining preseason for the star players, they cannot put their 100% to play in the preseason, but losing is not really that bad as long as they warmed up good and get ready for the real games to come.
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October 12, 2022, 12:00:03 AM
The Nets have guys that all create their own shot, so I don't expect that many of their attempts will be made off screens.  They're also not a run and gun type of team where Draymond's smaller size for his position plays an advantage.
True! Isolation plays will be the focus of the Brooklyn Nets and not like how they do it in the Warriors.

First time I watched an Orlando Magic game and they look pretty solid too. They won against the Grizzlies playing speed.
Paulo Banchero will definitely lift their team and IMO they actually look like the Grizzlies when Ja Morant came in as a rookie. Young team who uses speed as the core of their offense and kick-out plays.
Bamba and Harris were not able to play yet but they somehow squeeze a win, there was even a time in 1st quarter when they lead by almost 20.
I think they will reach the play-in tourney this season but if not, they won't be in the lowest seed anymore.
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October 11, 2022, 11:53:52 PM
Indeed, we don't want to see another star going down in pre-season games because for sure it will be a big blow for the Hornets this season. Hopefully he just need to rest that sprain ankle and with few massages and shot of anti-inflammatory, he will be good.

Wiseman really looks good vs against the Blazers, good block on Jeremi Grant.
Getting and picking up injuries is what have bring some team down in expenses and performance also especially when it's one of the keyplayer that is injured and there's absolutely no backup for him. The coach would be forced to convert a player to his role in the team and before we know it, the team starts recording poor performance and results. The ankle injury won't take him out for long because he will also be doing some training inother to fasten his recovery process.
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October 11, 2022, 11:47:28 PM
Wiseman really looks good vs against the Blazers, good block on Jeremi Grant.

Yeah, Wiseman had a great night. 18 points in 18 minutes and a +/- of 26. I hope Steve Kerr reconsiders and gives him some minutes this season. He’s one of the best young prospects in the NBA but has barely seen the floor. He’s also exactly what the Warriors need. I think in the post-Draymond era he’ll end up being one of the most important players on the team.
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October 11, 2022, 11:07:26 PM
Scary moment for the Charlotte Hornets today as LaMelo Ball screamed out in pain driving to the lane. It looked like a bad ankle injury, which it was, but doctors just confirmed it’s a sprain so he’ll be back before too long. He is expected to miss the first few games of the year but I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s ready to go for the start of the season.
Indeed, we don't want to see another star going down in pre-season games because for sure it will be a big blow for the Hornets this season. Hopefully he just need to rest that sprain ankle and with few massages and shot of anti-inflammatory, he will be good.

Wiseman really looks good vs against the Blazers, good block on Jeremi Grant.
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