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October 15, 2022, 10:32:49 PM
Looks like Jordan Poole got his bag. 140 million dollar contract extension. I wonder if this would have played out differently without the Green incident. This pretty much seals Green’s fate with the Warriors. They can’t afford to pay him what he’ll want without paying half a billion dollars in luxury taxes. Now we wait and see if Draymond gets traded, opts into his player option for next year, or is involved in a sign and trade.

Wow, huge contract for a young Jordan Poole, but honestly he deserves that because he already played like a superstar, people are calling him the next Steph Curry so it's no surprised that the Warriors would invest in him. With regards to Draymond Green, I think there's a good chance that he'll be traded because no chance now that he will get a max contract.

Jordan Poole and Andrew Wiggins, both of them have good contracts from the Warriors both $140++ contract extension. That is huge for this two young players and for sure they will be the next generation.

As for Green, he already sign his contract when he sucker punch Poole, Lol. And for sure he won't get that max contract and could leave next seasons if he opt to.
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October 15, 2022, 05:54:56 PM
Looks like Jordan Poole got his bag. 140 million dollar contract extension. I wonder if this would have played out differently without the Green incident. This pretty much seals Green’s fate with the Warriors. They can’t afford to pay him what he’ll want without paying half a billion dollars in luxury taxes. Now we wait and see if Draymond gets traded, opts into his player option for next year, or is involved in a sign and trade.
I'm thinking that probably someone has given way for him to get that contract. But yeah, the Poole fans got nothing to worry about now as he's secured with this 4-year contract deal from GSW.

There is news that Wiggins has also agreed to a $109 mln extension with the Warriors.
I haven't seen that news yet but maybe later it's going to come out as this deal from Poole has been out recently. So basically, that will be followed later if that has happened already.
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October 15, 2022, 05:21:13 PM
Looks like Jordan Poole got his bag. 140 million dollar contract extension. I wonder if this would have played out differently without the Green incident. This pretty much seals Green’s fate with the Warriors. They can’t afford to pay him what he’ll want without paying half a billion dollars in luxury taxes. Now we wait and see if Draymond gets traded, opts into his player option for next year, or is involved in a sign and trade.

Poole performed well last season, and it looks like the Warriors' management is well aware Poole has huge potential. So this contract extension was quite expected. At the same time, this deal might not be good news for Draymond because the Warriors are clearly hinting that they prefer Poole.
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There is news that Wiggins has also agreed to a $109 mln extension with the Warriors.
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October 15, 2022, 05:13:20 PM
~snip~

Let's just be optimistic that Zion is much different this time and fortunately, it was just a minor injury.
We are optimistic but some events can't be controlled and that's frustrating when I've heard it again but then suddenly turned into nothing to worry about.

I'm optimistic about him and the media and everyone's attention is on him.

Let the kid do the work because I believe he can still make a difference, he is not that prone just like the other players who ended their careers much earlier.
Yeah, moving forward and waiting for him to give some good numbers to the Pelicans.
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October 15, 2022, 04:36:01 PM
Looks like Jordan Poole got his bag. 140 million dollar contract extension. I wonder if this would have played out differently without the Green incident. This pretty much seals Green’s fate with the Warriors. They can’t afford to pay him what he’ll want without paying half a billion dollars in luxury taxes. Now we wait and see if Draymond gets traded, opts into his player option for next year, or is involved in a sign and trade.

Wow, huge contract for a young Jordan Poole, but honestly he deserves that because he already played like a superstar, people are calling him the next Steph Curry so it's no surprised that the Warriors would invest in him. With regards to Draymond Green, I think there's a good chance that he'll be traded because no chance now that he will get a max contract.
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October 15, 2022, 04:25:52 PM
Looks like Jordan Poole got his bag. 140 million dollar contract extension. I wonder if this would have played out differently without the Green incident. This pretty much seals Green’s fate with the Warriors. They can’t afford to pay him what he’ll want without paying half a billion dollars in luxury taxes. Now we wait and see if Draymond gets traded, opts into his player option for next year, or is involved in a sign and trade.
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October 15, 2022, 11:33:51 AM
There was actually another video that went viral where it looks like he also ignored a team huddle call by Pat Beverley. He addressed both videos in an interview,
- Pre-game excuse: He's doing his pregame ritual so he couldn't join.
- Bev huddle excuse: He's talking to the coaches about the previous play.

Here's a more complete video where you could see him with the team before he ran to the corner and missed the huddle
https://twitter.com/ClutchPointsApp/status/1580551050670788610

Another clip that shows what he's doing before Pat Bev called for a huddle
https://twitter.com/WorldWideWob/status/1580611313528557570


Well, he has his own rituals, I think this is really not a big issue, they don't give a care about Russ is not in a huddle, but surely he didn't mean any harm Russ is trying to be Russ well let's just see if he clearly learn from last season but maybe he is trying his very best, and I think he now trying a defensive play aswell, but that isn't really Russell Westbrook if he cares so much with defense,


I have a speculation that maybe because of his attitude, team are not willing to give him at least 1 year to proved his worth in the NBA. But damn, during his prime, DeMarcus Cousins was beast and he was really huge that it's hard to stop him because of him being versatile, inside and out. And we thought that he can achieved success with the Warriors as well, but it was too bad that after he joined, some members too, got injured.

It was not really his lucky day during his Golden State Warriors Career, many injuries so there is a huge percentage that they will not get the championship, that time it was really just a stroke of Bad luck even though he did his all for that team the star's injury really is a tragedy that many teams will surely suffer, not only the Warriors,



The last Preseason game was Sacramento King VS Los Angeles Lakers but yeah we all know that the Lakers were not really winning the game, and It is OK because it is Preseason but the real game will begin on October 19, so our 1st season game for the NBA area The Boston Celtics VS Philadelphia 76ers, will definitely give what I think on the game and my pick, but for now, will be getting ready for the start of the NBA,
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October 15, 2022, 11:24:04 AM
I missed the game of Pelicans but upon looking for some updates and news about it, I was shocked and surprised again about Zion Williamson. This guy just got recovered and then he's injured again.

But as per the news, it's not that critical as before. Well, hopefully it isn't so that he'll come back as what he has said.

And the Pelicans could say worth it for the contract they got for him.  Grin
https://www.nba.com/news/zion-williamson-twists-left-ankle
He's okay.
You scared me there for a while after reading your news. I didn't watch their game too.
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“I want to use the right term, but in the moment, it didn’t feel too good,” Williamson said. “It was one of those things that happened and I popped back up like, ‘Yeah, I’m straight.’ Played a few minutes after that, felt fine, then they sent me to the back just to double-check.”
We could say the weight trim is working. If he is still heavy it won't end up like this. Maybe worst.
I've just read a couple of headlines and that made me look at what happened and good thing that it's not that bad as before. He's just getting back on shape and said some words that he's going to show what he hasn't shown before.

I was not able to watch the game but good thing the injury is not serious, otherwise, it will be a complete disappointment not seeing him again this season. The Pelicans have invested on him, trusting his recovery and that he could come back fully healthy again, but if major injury would happen again, I don't know, maybe they will find a way to trade him.
Yep. It wasn't that bad at all.

He could end up like the other players that have been so good and expected a lot but then, injury disabled them. We can name a few of them that have went miserably because of injury.

Let's just be optimistic that Zion is much different this time and fortunately, it was just a minor injury. Let the kid do the work because I believe he can still make a difference, he is not that prone just like the other players who ended their careers much earlier.

Reports said that it is just a minor injury, so finger crossed, and hopefully we can see him when the regular season starts. The team is exciting to see with him around, last year, we thought that they will have a bad season. But Ingram pushes them and so with Zion back in the line up, we should expect the Pelicans to be on the upper side of their division. Yes, he is not that prone to injury, he is just super athletic for his body that it really did take a toll on him. But he has slim down already and that is a good indication that he is very serious to make a huge comeback.
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October 15, 2022, 11:13:10 AM
Just like what happened with DeMarcus Cousins. Injuries after injury made him less valuable and even today he is having a hard time finding a team.
One of the worst things that happened in a player's history regarding the possibility of getting a good contract.
That year, I remember that he was already expecting a max contract in the off-season not just with the New Orleans Pelicans but on other teams as well. Unfortunately, the injury came and from there, he didn't have a chance now to taste a very good contract until his value depreciate up to this point.
I hope the Denver Nuggets can give him another shot even for 1-year basis.
As long as he remained healthy, he can still be a good asset coming off the bench.
He can be a great addition to the team, and that is proven because we've seen him already in the past playoffs his contribution was really valuable. I can't discount his will to contribute to the team, if only the coaching staff will give him enough playing time, he can give more help the team to win.
Fingers crossed my brothers. He proved himself well at that run with the Denver Nuggets, especially at the time when he was given more than 20 minutes of playtime.
Even until now, I am confused with why he is not signed yet. He trimmed his body weight, he can shoot threes from Warriors to Nuggets.
All he need is a contract.
I bet he is willing to take even a veterans contact just to show his skills again and how he is getting better after every season.
I have a speculation that maybe because of his attitude, team are not willing to give him at least 1 year to proved his worth in the NBA. But damn, during his prime, DeMarcus Cousins was beast and he was really huge that it's hard to stop him because of him being versatile, inside and out. And we thought that he can achieved success with the Warriors as well, but it was too bad that after he joined, some members too, got injured.

If he gets a reasonable chance he will be really eager to show why he is the best. However, the problem is that he often gets injured in the process.
Having a player like that can be a serious problem for any team as well as for his career too. In order for him to prove himself to a team, he will have to play a better game if they give him a chance. He can easily get injured while trying to play better. As a result, I cannot really blame anyone for what happened. Injuries are quite unfortunate for any player. It is also my hope that the Denver Nuggets will give him another chance.

@Dave1, I think attitude is ok, having said that, he is 32 years old and, to be honest, it is easy for him to get injured because of his age. Therefore, I highly doubt that the Denver Nuggets will give him a second chance.
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October 15, 2022, 10:45:39 AM
I missed the game of Pelicans but upon looking for some updates and news about it, I was shocked and surprised again about Zion Williamson. This guy just got recovered and then he's injured again.

But as per the news, it's not that critical as before. Well, hopefully it isn't so that he'll come back as what he has said.

And the Pelicans could say worth it for the contract they got for him.  Grin
https://www.nba.com/news/zion-williamson-twists-left-ankle
He's okay.
You scared me there for a while after reading your news. I didn't watch their game too.
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“I want to use the right term, but in the moment, it didn’t feel too good,” Williamson said. “It was one of those things that happened and I popped back up like, ‘Yeah, I’m straight.’ Played a few minutes after that, felt fine, then they sent me to the back just to double-check.”
We could say the weight trim is working. If he is still heavy it won't end up like this. Maybe worst.
I've just read a couple of headlines and that made me look at what happened and good thing that it's not that bad as before. He's just getting back on shape and said some words that he's going to show what he hasn't shown before.

I was not able to watch the game but good thing the injury is not serious, otherwise, it will be a complete disappointment not seeing him again this season. The Pelicans have invested on him, trusting his recovery and that he could come back fully healthy again, but if major injury would happen again, I don't know, maybe they will find a way to trade him.
Yep. It wasn't that bad at all.

He could end up like the other players that have been so good and expected a lot but then, injury disabled them. We can name a few of them that have went miserably because of injury.

Let's just be optimistic that Zion is much different this time and fortunately, it was just a minor injury. Let the kid do the work because I believe he can still make a difference, he is not that prone just like the other players who ended their careers much earlier.
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October 15, 2022, 10:41:39 AM
Just like what happened with DeMarcus Cousins. Injuries after injury made him less valuable and even today he is having a hard time finding a team.

One of the worst things that happened in a player's history regarding the possibility of getting a good contract.

That year, I remember that he was already expecting a max contract in the off-season not just with the New Orleans Pelicans but on other teams as well. Unfortunately, the injury came and from there, he didn't have a chance now to taste a very good contract until his value depreciate up to this point.

I hope the Denver Nuggets can give him another shot even for 1-year basis.

As long as he remained healthy, he can still be a good asset coming off the bench.

He can be a great addition to the team, and that is proven because we've seen him already in the past playoffs his contribution was really valuable. I can't discount his will to contribute to the team, if only the coaching staff will give him enough playing time, he can give more help the team to win.
Fingers crossed my brothers. He proved himself well at that run with the Denver Nuggets, especially at the time when he was given more than 20 minutes of playtime.
Even until now, I am confused with why he is not signed yet. He trimmed his body weight, he can shoot threes from Warriors to Nuggets.
All he need is a contract.
I bet he is willing to take even a veterans contact just to show his skills again and how he is getting better after every season.

I have a speculation that maybe because of his attitude, team are not willing to give him at least 1 year to proved his worth in the NBA. But damn, during his prime, DeMarcus Cousins was beast and he was really huge that it's hard to stop him because of him being versatile, inside and out. And we thought that he can achieved success with the Warriors as well, but it was too bad that after he joined, some members too, got injured.

And to add to that, maybe teams are really looking for someone that is not fragile, and at the point of Cousins career, he might get injured again and it will be over for him. Players like Carmelo and to some extend Howard was able to get a contract like year could be because of Lebron. But they have seen the getting a old and wash up player is a bad idea and it may have set a precedence for other veterans not to be sign up this season, including Cousins even though he show signs that he can still play, in my opinion.
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October 15, 2022, 10:13:57 AM
Just like what happened with DeMarcus Cousins. Injuries after injury made him less valuable and even today he is having a hard time finding a team.

One of the worst things that happened in a player's history regarding the possibility of getting a good contract.

That year, I remember that he was already expecting a max contract in the off-season not just with the New Orleans Pelicans but on other teams as well. Unfortunately, the injury came and from there, he didn't have a chance now to taste a very good contract until his value depreciate up to this point.

I hope the Denver Nuggets can give him another shot even for 1-year basis.

As long as he remained healthy, he can still be a good asset coming off the bench.

He can be a great addition to the team, and that is proven because we've seen him already in the past playoffs his contribution was really valuable. I can't discount his will to contribute to the team, if only the coaching staff will give him enough playing time, he can give more help the team to win.
Fingers crossed my brothers. He proved himself well at that run with the Denver Nuggets, especially at the time when he was given more than 20 minutes of playtime.
Even until now, I am confused with why he is not signed yet. He trimmed his body weight, he can shoot threes from Warriors to Nuggets.
All he need is a contract.
I bet he is willing to take even a veterans contact just to show his skills again and how he is getting better after every season.

I have a speculation that maybe because of his attitude, team are not willing to give him at least 1 year to proved his worth in the NBA. But damn, during his prime, DeMarcus Cousins was beast and he was really huge that it's hard to stop him because of him being versatile, inside and out. And we thought that he can achieved success with the Warriors as well, but it was too bad that after he joined, some members too, got injured.
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October 15, 2022, 09:49:50 AM
Just like what happened with DeMarcus Cousins. Injuries after injury made him less valuable and even today he is having a hard time finding a team.

One of the worst things that happened in a player's history regarding the possibility of getting a good contract.

That year, I remember that he was already expecting a max contract in the off-season not just with the New Orleans Pelicans but on other teams as well. Unfortunately, the injury came and from there, he didn't have a chance now to taste a very good contract until his value depreciate up to this point.

I hope the Denver Nuggets can give him another shot even for 1-year basis.

As long as he remained healthy, he can still be a good asset coming off the bench.

He can be a great addition to the team, and that is proven because we've seen him already in the past playoffs his contribution was really valuable. I can't discount his will to contribute to the team, if only the coaching staff will give him enough playing time, he can give more help the team to win.
Fingers crossed my brothers. He proved himself well at that run with the Denver Nuggets, especially at the time when he was given more than 20 minutes of playtime.
Even until now, I am confused with why he is not signed yet. He trimmed his body weight, he can shoot threes from Warriors to Nuggets.
All he need is a contract.
I bet he is willing to take even a veterans contact just to show his skills again and how he is getting better after every season.

I like what he is doing because he is still very eager to come back, he is doing everything to be fully shaped so that he can be more versatile. I'm guessing, maybe there are teams already that are interested in him but his agent is just carefully evaluating the offers before they will formally choose a team to sign with.
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October 15, 2022, 09:44:48 AM
Just like what happened with DeMarcus Cousins. Injuries after injury made him less valuable and even today he is having a hard time finding a team.

One of the worst things that happened in a player's history regarding the possibility of getting a good contract.

That year, I remember that he was already expecting a max contract in the off-season not just with the New Orleans Pelicans but on other teams as well. Unfortunately, the injury came and from there, he didn't have a chance now to taste a very good contract until his value depreciate up to this point.

I hope the Denver Nuggets can give him another shot even for 1-year basis.

As long as he remained healthy, he can still be a good asset coming off the bench.

He can be a great addition to the team, and that is proven because we've seen him already in the past playoffs his contribution was really valuable. I can't discount his will to contribute to the team, if only the coaching staff will give him enough playing time, he can give more help the team to win.
Fingers crossed my brothers. He proved himself well at that run with the Denver Nuggets, especially at the time when he was given more than 20 minutes of playtime.
Even until now, I am confused with why he is not signed yet. He trimmed his body weight, he can shoot threes from Warriors to Nuggets.
All he need is a contract.
I bet he is willing to take even a veterans contact just to show his skills again and how he is getting better after every season.
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October 15, 2022, 08:50:01 AM
if only the coaching staff will give him enough playing time, he can give more help the team to win.

It won't happen. Instead of giving him enough playing time, why not give that playing time instead to a caliber player?

He's fit in the supporting role, not as a part of the main cast. He can be a valuable backup.

Anothe reason why he is given limited playing time is, it was the health recommendation after being in a major injury.

I agree with you, otherwise, cousins would not be having a hard time getting signed into a team. The fact that he only gets a short-term contract, that only means that the team sees the risk that he could be injured anytime and he will be a liability again to the team. Being in the 2nd unit is more effective for him, and getting limited minutes would help him minimize the risk of getting injured.
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October 15, 2022, 07:48:35 AM
if only the coaching staff will give him enough playing time, he can give more help the team to win.

It won't happen. Instead of giving him enough playing time, why not give that playing time instead to a caliber player?

He's fit in the supporting role, not as a part of the main cast. He can be a valuable backup.



There are times that he played more minutes during the last playoffs, and he was making good minutes. What I'm thinking is, how about giving him more playing time to build more confidence, maybe he is not anymore in his prime but with his experience and his aggressiveness inside, he sure can be a huge asset to the team.

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Another reason why he is given limited playing time is, it was the health recommendation after being in a major injury.
I think over time that injury will heal and he will be fully healthy again. Derrick Rose was once seriously injured but when he played in the Knicks, the coaching staff trusted him and he played heavy minutes.
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October 15, 2022, 07:38:37 AM
if only the coaching staff will give him enough playing time, he can give more help the team to win.

It won't happen. Instead of giving him enough playing time, why not give that playing time instead to a caliber player?

He's fit in the supporting role, not as a part of the main cast. He can be a valuable backup.

Anothe reason why he is given limited playing time is, it was the health recommendation after being in a major injury.
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October 15, 2022, 07:28:08 AM
In any case, if the Pelicans want to perform well this season, they'll need to find a way to keep Zion safe from those kinds of injuries.

Is there any thing that the Pelicans can do to keep Zion safe?

It's already on Zion to make that possible.

Even the Pelicans can put Zion on load management to reduce the risks of being injured, what if at the time he decided to play, the injury happened? Aside from that, if the Pelicans, let's say have a hard time catching up with the standings next season to keep their playoff spot, they need all the help they can get and that includes allowing Zion to play no matter what.

Exactly, injuries happen, and it is part of the game. They cannot control it if something unfortunate happens to Zion. But they can reduce the risk of it happening. I think the most effective way is that they control his training so that they can be sure that he is always at the top of his health when playing.

I've watched their game today, though i did not managed to finish it, but I can say their team chemistry did not get affected by the issue with Green and Poole. They played well both offensively and defensively despite of the loss against the Nuggets. So, many fake news and fake rumors circulating in the internet today regarding Draymond trade, but no I don't think the Warriors would do that. They look great this season with a couple of guys stepping up their game, and the chances of the repeat this year is quite high.

I haven't watched a single game this pre-season. It is good to know that their chemistry is still intact even though the altercation happened between Poole and Green. They need to bring back the same chemistry that they had last year if they want to successfully defend their title this year. There are plenty of strong teams this year not only in the west but also in the east. They need all the help they can get from their roster.

Those rumors are usually just click baits. They are just taking advantage of the situation to get more clicks, likes, and money.
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October 15, 2022, 07:26:12 AM
I’m watching this Nets/Bucks preseason game and Ben Simmons has 6 points and 6 assists at the end of the first quarter. I’m usually in agreement with Doris Burke, but she’s talking about his stat line and I’m watching the game… Ben has been missing defensive assignments, not going for rebounds, not rolling off the screen, and passing up open jump shots. I actually think he looks pretty bad out there, but he’ll probably get a first half triple double…
Simmons ended up with 7 points, 8 rebounds and   10 assists. Not bad knowing that he isn't 100% and at least he is doing what he really wants to do, and it is to pass and pass the ball. It's good to see him playing again now with a different team.

Unlike when he is in Philly when they want him to shoot threes, I guess he doesn't need to do it now that he is in Brooklyn because the roster is loaded with offensive players like Kyrie, KD, O'neal, Harris and Curry. I think he will be comfortable now because they will not oblige him to shoot because as a point guard of the team, the main objective is to carry the ball and to pass to an open teammate.

The Nets won by 10 points. It's only a pre-season game but still helpful to build the chemistry of both teams.

Yeah, I would say that bad, it's almost triple double isn't it? He has been playing his usual game that this is good enough for him and the Nets. Just to see him ball and being healthy is already a good sign for the Nets. And it's also good to see Harris as well.

Might just be pre-season game, but the chemistry is already there I might say and they could be back as one of the favorites to win this year if everyone remains healthy and focus on one goal.

Simmons are playing impressively, IMO because he is not in any pressure now to give outstanding scores, he is playing what he knows the most and that is laying the table for Kyrie and KD while doing defensive measures as well. Not bad for a player who haven't played for a whole season.
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October 15, 2022, 07:15:01 AM
Just like what happened with DeMarcus Cousins. Injuries after injury made him less valuable and even today he is having a hard time finding a team.

One of the worst things that happened in a player's history regarding the possibility of getting a good contract.

That year, I remember that he was already expecting a max contract in the off-season not just with the New Orleans Pelicans but on other teams as well. Unfortunately, the injury came and from there, he didn't have a chance now to taste a very good contract until his value depreciate up to this point.

I hope the Denver Nuggets can give him another shot even for 1-year basis.

As long as he remained healthy, he can still be a good asset coming off the bench.

He can be a great addition to the team, and that is proven because we've seen him already in the past playoffs his contribution was really valuable. I can't discount his will to contribute to the team, if only the coaching staff will give him enough playing time, he can give more help the team to win.
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