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October 16, 2022, 04:33:01 PM
Are we to expect that they will really pay almost half billion for taxes?
Likely, they have no option but to pay that, and AFAIK, and that's why they can't just max out some contracts but still give their players a decent one.

Do Nba franchises really making that much money when they become champions?
Yeah, that includes ticket sales and other stuff like sponsorships.
(https://www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/071415/how-nba-makes-money.asp)
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October 16, 2022, 04:28:46 PM

If only Draymond Green expressed his concern over his desire for the max contract prior to signing a 4-year $100 million in 2020-21, maybe things today might have changed. Asking for such kind of huge contract at this point in his career is really a no-brainer to grant. Now entering his post-prime period, he is even lucky that his current contract is still considered one of the good contracts out there providing his stats is not that appealing anymore. Being a team advisor, especially to young cores is not a factor.

I'm sure Draymond Green won't exercise his player option next year and will finish his contract with the Warriors until becoming a UFA. I'm also speculating that we won't see any trades involving him in the off-season next year.
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October 16, 2022, 04:18:07 PM
Looks like Jordan Poole got his bag. 140 million dollar contract extension. I wonder if this would have played out differently without the Green incident. This pretty much seals Green’s fate with the Warriors. They can’t afford to pay him what he’ll want without paying half a billion dollars in luxury taxes. Now we wait and see if Draymond gets traded, opts into his player option for next year, or is involved in a sign and trade.

Poole performed well last season, and it looks like the Warriors' management is well aware Poole has huge potential. So this contract extension was quite expected. At the same time, this deal might not be good news for Draymond because the Warriors are clearly hinting that they prefer Poole.
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There is news that Wiggins has also agreed to a $109 mln extension with the Warriors.
Wiggins also got the contract as you have said, 109 million for four years. I understand the moves of the Warriors but I can't comprehend the luxury tax situation. Are we to expect that they will really pay almost half billion for taxes? Do Nba franchises really making that much money when they become champions? Or they are planning to trade a lot and some kind of rebuilding? Curry is 34 years old now. The Warriors people must be considering Curry's age factor and plan these moves accordingly, of course. I'm rather curious about where will GSW be in 5 years, 10 years. Of course it is very very hard to predict but I mean what kind of team they are thinking to build.

Boils down to the end result and goal, to win a championship.

And so the Warriors have find the perfect fit again in Poole and Wiggins and so they are wiling to take that risk and think that it will be the next generation of players that will bring them a championship.

As long as fans are willing to pay tickets and watch the Warriors  then I would say that the tax situation won't be a problem for them. Compare to other teams as well who are rebuilding for this season. They are willing to pay players huge money just to be able to win a ring, like the Nets.
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October 16, 2022, 03:41:32 PM
I understand the moves of the Warriors but I can't comprehend the luxury tax situation. Are we to expect that they will really pay almost half billion for taxes? Do Nba franchises really making that much money when they become champions?

As far as I know, the Warriors will probably spend over $500 million in the 23/24 season, including $268 million in taxes. That's really a lot, but I think the Warriors have enough revenue sources to cover such huge expenses. Obviously, tickets aren't the only source of revenue for this team. I'm more than sure the Warriors also make a lot of money from TV, merchandising, advertising, and various partnerships.

Yes, there are other sources of revenue and so I guess they can spend that huge amount just to sign Wiggins and Poole to a huge contract.

And I think they made the right decision for this two, they are part of the core now and so the Warriors should pay them otherwise they will leave for sure just like the rest of their second unit. Although you can't blame them, at least with the Warriors experience, they can bring their talent and obviously good contract from other teams.
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October 16, 2022, 03:36:24 PM
I understand the moves of the Warriors but I can't comprehend the luxury tax situation. Are we to expect that they will really pay almost half billion for taxes? Do Nba franchises really making that much money when they become champions?

As far as I know, the Warriors will probably spend over $500 million in the 23/24 season, including $268 million in taxes. That's really a lot, but I think the Warriors have enough revenue sources to cover such huge expenses. Obviously, tickets aren't the only source of revenue for this team. I'm more than sure the Warriors also make a lot of money from TV, merchandising, advertising, and various partnerships.
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October 16, 2022, 02:45:18 PM
Looks like Jordan Poole got his bag. 140 million dollar contract extension. I wonder if this would have played out differently without the Green incident. This pretty much seals Green’s fate with the Warriors. They can’t afford to pay him what he’ll want without paying half a billion dollars in luxury taxes. Now we wait and see if Draymond gets traded, opts into his player option for next year, or is involved in a sign and trade.

Poole performed well last season, and it looks like the Warriors' management is well aware Poole has huge potential. So this contract extension was quite expected. At the same time, this deal might not be good news for Draymond because the Warriors are clearly hinting that they prefer Poole.
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There is news that Wiggins has also agreed to a $109 mln extension with the Warriors.
Wiggins also got the contract as you have said, 109 million for four years. I understand the moves of the Warriors but I can't comprehend the luxury tax situation. Are we to expect that they will really pay almost half billion for taxes? Do Nba franchises really making that much money when they become champions? Or they are planning to trade a lot and some kind of rebuilding? Curry is 34 years old now. The Warriors people must be considering Curry's age factor and plan these moves accordingly, of course. I'm rather curious about where will GSW be in 5 years, 10 years. Of course it is very very hard to predict but I mean what kind of team they are thinking to build.
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October 16, 2022, 11:24:10 AM
For sure Green has heard about it and could be working for his own contract extension, a max if he can. But then again in the recent days we have seen what he had done not just to Jordan Poole but to the rest of the guys in the team. He might be feeling shit right now after hearing both Poole and Wiggins have sign for a huge contract. So we might as well see Green in other teams. We've seen others speculated that he will play with Lebron at Lakers but we will see.
There is absolutely no way that Draymond Green would get a max contract, I am not sure if the owners even wanted to pay him that much, but with this move I am sure that they will have an excuse to just say that they do not want to pay him that much because he is a player that causes trouble in the team.
I am not saying he is going to get a veteran minimum, because it may not be that low, all because of he won so many rings with them and he was part of a great group, but just because he was good back then, you can't give him a max contract, that would be too wild. Just imagine having curry+klay+poole+wiggins already, that's good enough, so green has to take more like 20-25 million at most, that's good enough for him.
Agreed he is on the wrong side of a max contract.  He isn't getting better and will be on the decline shortly.  I know you have to overpay sometimes but giving him a max contract would choke out any flexibility gs would have for the next 4 years

I really do not think that the owners will be willing to give him that much money. It is not an exaggeration to say that he is a troublemaker, it is the truth to say that he is one. Due to the fact that he is a troublemaker, I think they will not be making any mistakes if they do not give him a max contract.

In addition, I think he is also aware of the fact that he is not a necessity in the team at the moment. After his little "punching stunt", a lot of teams are not going to want to take him on as well if they wish to trade him. There is no way I think they are going to trade him in the first place. All I want to say is I agree with @sana54210 that he is not getting a max contract.
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October 16, 2022, 11:14:24 AM
For sure Green has heard about it and could be working for his own contract extension, a max if he can. But then again in the recent days we have seen what he had done not just to Jordan Poole but to the rest of the guys in the team. He might be feeling shit right now after hearing both Poole and Wiggins have sign for a huge contract. So we might as well see Green in other teams. We've seen others speculated that he will play with Lebron at Lakers but we will see.
There is absolutely no way that Draymond Green would get a max contract, I am not sure if the owners even wanted to pay him that much, but with this move I am sure that they will have an excuse to just say that they do not want to pay him that much because he is a player that causes trouble in the team.

I am not saying he is going to get a veteran minimum, because it may not be that low, all because of he won so many rings with them and he was part of a great group, but just because he was good back then, you can't give him a max contract, that would be too wild. Just imagine having curry+klay+poole+wiggins already, that's good enough, so green has to take more like 20-25 million at most, that's good enough for him.

Agreed he is on the wrong side of a max contract.  He isn't getting better and will be on the decline shortly.  I know you have to overpay sometimes but giving him a max contract would choke out any flexibility gs would have for the next 4 years
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October 16, 2022, 09:32:34 AM
For sure Green has heard about it and could be working for his own contract extension, a max if he can. But then again in the recent days we have seen what he had done not just to Jordan Poole but to the rest of the guys in the team. He might be feeling shit right now after hearing both Poole and Wiggins have sign for a huge contract. So we might as well see Green in other teams. We've seen others speculated that he will play with Lebron at Lakers but we will see.
There is absolutely no way that Draymond Green would get a max contract, I am not sure if the owners even wanted to pay him that much, but with this move I am sure that they will have an excuse to just say that they do not want to pay him that much because he is a player that causes trouble in the team.

I am not saying he is going to get a veteran minimum, because it may not be that low, all because of he won so many rings with them and he was part of a great group, but just because he was good back then, you can't give him a max contract, that would be too wild. Just imagine having curry+klay+poole+wiggins already, that's good enough, so green has to take more like 20-25 million at most, that's good enough for him.

That's the only amount the Warriors could offer, so it's either he will be traded and wait for the contract extension to get a max contract, or he will stay with the team still thinking about what happened that Poole got that huge contract after he punched him in the face. Green is a trouble maker, that's why he is called as a dirty player, but against his teammates, that's unacceptable.
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October 16, 2022, 09:14:09 AM
For sure Green has heard about it and could be working for his own contract extension, a max if he can. But then again in the recent days we have seen what he had done not just to Jordan Poole but to the rest of the guys in the team. He might be feeling shit right now after hearing both Poole and Wiggins have sign for a huge contract. So we might as well see Green in other teams. We've seen others speculated that he will play with Lebron at Lakers but we will see.
There is absolutely no way that Draymond Green would get a max contract, I am not sure if the owners even wanted to pay him that much, but with this move I am sure that they will have an excuse to just say that they do not want to pay him that much because he is a player that causes trouble in the team.

I am not saying he is going to get a veteran minimum, because it may not be that low, all because of he won so many rings with them and he was part of a great group, but just because he was good back then, you can't give him a max contract, that would be too wild. Just imagine having curry+klay+poole+wiggins already, that's good enough, so green has to take more like 20-25 million at most, that's good enough for him.
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October 16, 2022, 07:16:49 AM


Reports said that it is just a minor injury, so finger crossed, and hopefully we can see him when the regular season starts. The team is exciting to see with him around, last year, we thought that they will have a bad season. But Ingram pushes them and so with Zion back in the line up, we should expect the Pelicans to be on the upper side of their division. Yes, he is not that prone to injury, he is just super athletic for his body that it really did take a toll on him. But he has slim down already and that is a good indication that he is very serious to make a huge comeback.

That's good, well, last season they have a good run despite not having Zion, so we can expect that at the start of the season they will be one of the top teams in the West. Getting in the playoffs again with a healthy Zion, for sure they'll become better and we might see them a great contender in the West.

Zion's ability to dominate inside is very big especially now that Ingram is very confident already with his shooting and attacking the paint.

There are many teams to look forward this season and the Pelicans are one of them. Zion is back and trimmed down but he still big and heavy. I agree, if Zion will persevere on cutting the weight prescribed to him, he can reach to his full potential. His awareness and IQ are remarkable.

My guess on the Pelicans supposed they remain healthy the whole season is to take the sixth to tenth spot in the western conference. There are too many young talents in the team. They need to be together in a playoffs experience in order for them to grow.  
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October 16, 2022, 07:00:24 AM
Looks like Jordan Poole got his bag. 140 million dollar contract extension. I wonder if this would have played out differently without the Green incident. This pretty much seals Green’s fate with the Warriors. They can’t afford to pay him what he’ll want without paying half a billion dollars in luxury taxes. Now we wait and see if Draymond gets traded, opts into his player option for next year, or is involved in a sign and trade.

Wow, huge contract for a young Jordan Poole, but honestly he deserves that because he already played like a superstar, people are calling him the next Steph Curry so it's no surprised that the Warriors would invest in him. With regards to Draymond Green, I think there's a good chance that he'll be traded because no chance now that he will get a max contract.

Jordan Poole and Andrew Wiggins, both of them have good contracts from the Warriors both $140++ contract extension. That is huge for this two young players and for sure they will be the next generation.

As for Green, he already sign his contract when he sucker punch Poole, Lol. And for sure he won't get that max contract and could leave next seasons if he opt to.

Yeah, he might be traded because the Warriors' management choose to give Poole a good contract than giving Green a max contract.

4 years contract, that's  $35 million per year, higher than Draymond Green which only making $25 million this season.
I wonder how he is feeling now, a young player getting bigger salary than him, and how about Andrew Wiggins contract extension, what would be the effect?

For sure Green has heard about it and could be working for his own contract extension, a max if he can. But then again in the recent days we have seen what he had done not just to Jordan Poole but to the rest of the guys in the team. He might be feeling shit right now after hearing both Poole and Wiggins have sign for a huge contract. So we might as well see Green in other teams. We've seen others speculated that he will play with Lebron at Lakers but we will see.
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October 16, 2022, 06:20:25 AM


Reports said that it is just a minor injury, so finger crossed, and hopefully we can see him when the regular season starts. The team is exciting to see with him around, last year, we thought that they will have a bad season. But Ingram pushes them and so with Zion back in the line up, we should expect the Pelicans to be on the upper side of their division. Yes, he is not that prone to injury, he is just super athletic for his body that it really did take a toll on him. But he has slim down already and that is a good indication that he is very serious to make a huge comeback.

That's good, well, last season they have a good run despite not having Zion, so we can expect that at the start of the season they will be one of the top teams in the West. Getting in the playoffs again with a healthy Zion, for sure they'll become better and we might see them a great contender in the West.

Zion's ability to dominate inside is very big especially now that Ingram is very confident already with his shooting and attacking the paint.
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October 16, 2022, 05:06:23 AM
@Dave1, I think attitude is ok, having said that, he is 32 years old and, to be honest, it is easy for him to get injured because of his age. Therefore, I highly doubt that the Denver Nuggets will give him a second chance.
I think so too. He was not on the headlines about making a fuss in Denver Nuggets. He was just there, playing at his best and contributing to the Nuggets while they are fighting in the playoffs. He actually did a great job there. I think he is old enough to know what he did back then was all a mistake and he is trying to straighten it out.

Looks like Jordan Poole got his bag. 140 million dollar contract extension. I wonder if this would have played out differently without the Green incident. This pretty much seals Green’s fate with the Warriors. They can’t afford to pay him what he’ll want without paying half a billion dollars in luxury taxes. Now we wait and see if Draymond gets traded, opts into his player option for next year, or is involved in a sign and trade.
I doubt that.
If that didn't happen it will be a different ending. Maybe it will be Green who will get the contract extension instead of him.
Perhaps they investigated it deep and heard other things from his team mates.
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October 16, 2022, 04:46:36 AM
Looks like Jordan Poole got his bag. 140 million dollar contract extension. I wonder if this would have played out differently without the Green incident. This pretty much seals Green’s fate with the Warriors. They can’t afford to pay him what he’ll want without paying half a billion dollars in luxury taxes. Now we wait and see if Draymond gets traded, opts into his player option for next year, or is involved in a sign and trade.

Wow, huge contract for a young Jordan Poole, but honestly he deserves that because he already played like a superstar, people are calling him the next Steph Curry so it's no surprised that the Warriors would invest in him. With regards to Draymond Green, I think there's a good chance that he'll be traded because no chance now that he will get a max contract.

Jordan Poole and Andrew Wiggins, both of them have good contracts from the Warriors both $140++ contract extension. That is huge for this two young players and for sure they will be the next generation.

As for Green, he already sign his contract when he sucker punch Poole, Lol. And for sure he won't get that max contract and could leave next seasons if he opt to.

Yeah, he might be traded because the Warriors' management choose to give Poole a good contract than giving Green a max contract.

4 years contract, that's  $35 million per year, higher than Draymond Green which only making $25 million this season.
I wonder how he is feeling now, a young player getting bigger salary than him, and how about Andrew Wiggins contract extension, what would be the effect?
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October 16, 2022, 03:02:33 AM
Looks like Jordan Poole got his bag. 140 million dollar contract extension. I wonder if this would have played out differently without the Green incident. This pretty much seals Green’s fate with the Warriors. They can’t afford to pay him what he’ll want without paying half a billion dollars in luxury taxes. Now we wait and see if Draymond gets traded, opts into his player option for next year, or is involved in a sign and trade.

This could be an elaborate plan, but maybe it is not, but it could be for Jordan Poole to make amends for the incident but I really don't know why a sudden contract like this at the start of the season, and not just Jordan Poole Andrew Wiggin is a no brainer as well, but next season they will be having a problem with the Draymond Green contract, and so the Golden State Salary could surely choke a Hippo with this so much max contract players, or yeah the Golden State Warriors will surely make a hard decision on if Draymond Green could have a max contract or leave the team,


We are optimistic but some events can't be controlled and that's frustrating when I've heard it again but then suddenly turned into nothing to worry about.

I'm optimistic about him and the media and everyone's attention is on him.


Well, let's all see about it Zion Williamson s getting better and better with 1 steal from a preseason game against the Chicago Bulls, Steal this is the Preseason but surely he is showing that he already return in good shape, I think the New Orleans Pelicans have got themselves a great diamond from those rocks they have,


Unless Warriors management will take that half billion for taxes and let Green to get his demand.

Green's fate will be depending on how he will perform this upcoming season, but for both Wiggins and Poole they are now
secure with huge contract extension, both young and really give good help for the splash bro, GSW is again fully equipt
entering this new season, are they going to win another back to back now?

I feel sorry for Draymond Green I really feel that he is doing great with the defense that the Warriors need, and he is the only Center positioned player that can put threes with the most accuracy, seeing the records, that is why he might really feel pissed off, he really thinks to himself that he has given his all with the distraction for some teams, as the main defense of the Warriors, but it was really not enough and because of the incident he needs to show to the team that he is the player they will be needing to those plays that the Warriors have establish with him,
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October 16, 2022, 02:40:41 AM

Wow, huge contract for a young Jordan Poole, but honestly he deserves that because he already played like a superstar, people are calling him the next Steph Curry so it's no surprised that the Warriors would invest in him. With regards to Draymond Green, I think there's a good chance that he'll be traded because no chance now that he will get a max contract.
Gigantic contract extension is what you get for an incredible performance in the court. He's still young and vibrant, that means he still have more years to play games and his contract with his team is a big move for him. Jordan just hit the lotto because such a whopping amount contract for him, he's now overrated in the team as one of the top earners and Jordan will make good debut in games just to proof that he's worth the amount the team agreed with him. We are just hoping that he won't turn out to be a flop after this big contract extension for him.
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October 16, 2022, 12:56:00 AM
Looks like Jordan Poole got his bag. 140 million dollar contract extension. I wonder if this would have played out differently without the Green incident. This pretty much seals Green’s fate with the Warriors. They can’t afford to pay him what he’ll want without paying half a billion dollars in luxury taxes. Now we wait and see if Draymond gets traded, opts into his player option for next year, or is involved in a sign and trade.

Wow, huge contract for a young Jordan Poole, but honestly he deserves that because he already played like a superstar, people are calling him the next Steph Curry so it's no surprised that the Warriors would invest in him. With regards to Draymond Green, I think there's a good chance that he'll be traded because no chance now that he will get a max contract.

Jordan Poole and Andrew Wiggins, both of them have good contracts from the Warriors both $140++ contract extension. That is huge for this two young players and for sure they will be the next generation.

As for Green, he already sign his contract when he sucker punch Poole, Lol. And for sure he won't get that max contract and could leave next seasons if he opt to.

Unless Warriors management will take that half billion for taxes and let Green to get his demand.

Green's fate will be depending on how he will perform this upcoming season, but for both Wiggins and Poole they are now
secure with huge contract extension, both young and really give good help for the splash bro, GSW is again fully equipt
entering this new season, are they going to win another back to back now?
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October 16, 2022, 12:49:14 AM
Looks like Jordan Poole got his bag. 140 million dollar contract extension.

A well-deserved contract in my opinion based on how he performed last year. It is clear now that GSW is gearing Poole as their next core when the current core starts to have their performance decline.

I wonder if this would have played out differently without the Green incident. This pretty much seals Green’s fate with the Warriors. They can’t afford to pay him what he’ll want without paying half a billion dollars in luxury taxes. Now we wait and see if Draymond gets traded, opts into his player option for next year, or is involved in a sign and trade.

I think, yeah, it could have been different if Green did not punch Poole. GSW could have waited for this season to finish before they offer a contract to Poole to see if he continues to have a stellar performance. But because of the altercation, GSW might lose Poole which forced their hands to offer the max extension.

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Let's just be optimistic that Zion is much different this time and fortunately, it was just a minor injury.
We are optimistic but some events can't be controlled and that's frustrating when I've heard it again but then suddenly turned into nothing to worry about.

I'm optimistic about him and the media and everyone's attention is on him.

I watched a video that explains that it might turn into a recurring injury for Zion because he sprained his ankle on his own. He did not step on any foot that could cause the sprain. If it is true, then we may see Zion getting injured over again unless he does something about it. He should take note of how Steph Curry solved his ankle sprain problem. Steph worked with a therapist to relieve the ankle of the stress and pass it to his hips. I do not know how it exactly works but it is worth it for Zion to explore this.


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October 16, 2022, 12:15:08 AM
A bit disappointing that LiAngelo Ball was waived by the Hornets. I’m not sure if he’ll ever be able to play in an NBA game. Watching him, he is a damn good catch and shoot player, but that’s not enough to make it in the NBA. Looks like Lonzo and LaMelo are going to have to carry the torch for the Ball family. At least for now.
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