Finally, we can see some real competition next week. We have top-betting favorite Boston Celtics without their usual coach. And the defending champion Golden State Warriors were beset with chemistry rumors after Draymond Green knocked out Jodan Poole with a thunderous punch to the face.
It's sad that we cannot watch Chet Holmgren this season. But we wish all the best for his recovery and perhaps more weight and muscles for him in the next season.
Are all teams intact now or there are some more trades we expect? Maybe Jordan Clarkson and Russel Westbrook are on the move before the trade deadline?
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Are others interpreting this as Management taking sides on this? because it seems to be just a slip in the wrist. Or the management might have talk to Jordan Poole before making the decision and maybe Poole doesn't want Green to be fine or something that's why this is their decision. In any case we will see what will be the full extend of this incident. Green could lost the respect from the young guys because of this.
Regardless, the decision shouldn't be influenced by whether Poole will just let it go away or not.
That incident is serious and the management should not tolerate it just because it's "Draymond Green".
Anyways, have to move on now as it was settled properly***. But we don't know the real score behind the curtains.
5 more days and the regular season will start, the case between Poole and Green might be forgotten.
The management may be found a better solution to keep the problem inside and let the players stay together, though we really
Don't know what the real score is behind. Let us wait for the opening and see if they are still fits together when playing there
game, other updates will be there for sure.
It might be forgotten by the fans but Green and Poole will never forget that. Poole might get a good extension with the Warriors, so the only chance they will not be able to play again together is if Warriors will not give Green a max contract and there's other team that are interested to give him his request.
Are others interpreting this as Management taking sides on this? because it seems to be just a slip in the wrist. Or the management might have talk to Jordan Poole before making the decision and maybe Poole doesn't want Green to be fine or something that's why this is their decision. In any case we will see what will be the full extend of this incident. Green could lost the respect from the young guys because of this.
Regardless, the decision shouldn't be influenced by whether Poole will just let it go away or not.
That incident is serious and the management should not tolerate it just because it's "Draymond Green".
Anyways, have to move on now as it was settled properly***. But we don't know the real score behind the curtains.
5 more days and the regular season will start, the case between Poole and Green might be forgotten.
The management may be found a better solution to keep the problem inside and let the players stay together, though we really
Don't know what the real score is behind. Let us wait for the opening and see if they are still fits together when playing there
game, other updates will be there for sure.
Seems to have some notable names on the injured list already, specially Celtics Robert Williams who have played tremendously as a center back up for Al.
And then veterans like Danny Green and Joe Ingles and Ricky Rubio, but nevertheless its not a season ending for the majority except Chet Holmgren so for sure we will see these players making a comeback this season.
Yes, this could have been the time for Chet to show that he is fit for the NBA even at his thin body figure and also add chemistry to the team instead of being in rest because of injury. A sad turn of events.And then veterans like Danny Green and Joe Ingles and Ricky Rubio, but nevertheless its not a season ending for the majority except Chet Holmgren so for sure we will see these players making a comeback this season.
Paolo Banchero is already doing his job and upon watching him this preseason he is looking like a leader.
Orlando Magic was the last seed in the previous season, they might not be on this one.
So being violent is not as bad as having an affair?
Someone's as mad as me. 
We cannot do anything about it anymore. The place where it happened is in the Warriors camp, so either they or Jordan Poole could file a complaint to stretch the punishment. But I don't think that will happen as I assume the Warriors management already talked to him to not do anything.
Aside from the fact that he really have some skills, he is doing everything he could and bring a good performance even if it was just a pre-season game because he is aiming for the Warriors to give him an extension. I mean, any team could probably give him the figure he wanted because he is really a superstar in the making but only the Warriors these days can help him to have more rings in the future.
Yes, this is a reality!I believe the Warriors are giving Poole a great opportunity to grow. Not to mention, he will have some experienced players to help him, for example Curry and Thompson.
If he improves, gaining consistency and others important attributes, he will become a great diamond that the Warriors are polishing.
they are giving all the minutes that he needed to fuel up and showcasing his skills and talents.
That kind of confidence that once being given to Steph, and if Poole continues making that impact, it is safe to
assume that he might be the next main alpha of this team. He just needed to stay down like how Steph is doing
and let the fans bring more support, still young and just like how you describe it, he's a diamond that the team
is polishing and for sure it will be paid by millions of dollars. Just keep improving and let the future dictate for his
career's directions.
Poole has shown excellent performance during the pre-season. Also, it is encouraging to see that the team is also trying to make sure that the young player is able to reach his maximum potential. In addition, from what I have seen, it appears that he is becoming more and more of an impact player as the days pass. If he keeps performing like this, he is going to get the support of the fans quite easily. That will eventually enable the player to play much better and be more enthusiastic and optimistic about his future.
People might think that optimism is unproductive, but I think it can be a positive thing for the players. As long as the player is in a positive mindset and stays out of the negativity that comes towards him, he will be able to achieve success.
I think the way Poole is playing right now, with the support of his team will be able to be one of the best. And obviously, I agree with @carlisle1 he can be the next main Alpha of this team.
Found Durants comment interesting on the whole Draymond Green, Jordan Poole teammate punch ordeal interesting “ "That's not the same situation," Durant told ESPN. "Somebody got punched in the face ... It's no comparison to that. It was just some words that being -- I heard people say that that happens a lot in the NBA. I had never seen nothing like that before. But what me and Draymond did a few years back, that s--- happens all the time. So it's easy to get through something like that, but I don't know what this situation is like.”
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34789183/kevin-durant-says-draymond-green-punch-derail-warriors
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34789183/kevin-durant-says-draymond-green-punch-derail-warriors
"Fined but not suspended."
https://www.nba.com/news/draymond-green-fined
Here I thought NBA is getting stricter about its rules but I am back to the reality that they are not. Leaked video or not they should be fair about their punishments. What if other players will try the same thing and no camera caught it? Even if there is, they won't be afraid to do it too because they can pay up.
It's safe to assume that this had been the most controversial summer of the league. So many happened in just months of waiting before the tip-off.
https://www.nba.com/news/draymond-green-fined
Quote
Draymond Green has been fined but won’t be suspended by the Golden State Warriors for a violent punch to the face of teammate Jordan Poole last week.
Coach Steve Kerr said after Tuesday’s preseason win against Portland that Green would return to practice Thursday, then play for the defending NBA champions against Denver on Friday night and again in the season opener Tuesday against the Lakers. Kerr, general manager Bob Myers and players have met to decide how to best proceed — including Green and Poole talking to each other.
Watching porn or having a relationship inside the team is worst now than knocking down your teammate. Coach Steve Kerr said after Tuesday’s preseason win against Portland that Green would return to practice Thursday, then play for the defending NBA champions against Denver on Friday night and again in the season opener Tuesday against the Lakers. Kerr, general manager Bob Myers and players have met to decide how to best proceed — including Green and Poole talking to each other.
Here I thought NBA is getting stricter about its rules but I am back to the reality that they are not. Leaked video or not they should be fair about their punishments. What if other players will try the same thing and no camera caught it? Even if there is, they won't be afraid to do it too because they can pay up.
It's safe to assume that this had been the most controversial summer of the league. So many happened in just months of waiting before the tip-off.
It should be fair and square, a fine and a suspension should be given to any players or staff that have broken some rules and shows unprofessionalism. It seems to me that the Warriors is not taking it seriously even if they knew that Poole's family isn't happy of what had happened. It's really fortunate enough that it was caught on video because if not, almost 100% we wouldn't know about it. What a controversial off-season!
I just cannot understand something here. A coach who had a relationship with someone and that's why he got fired from his job recently. On the other hand, a player knocked out his teammate in front of a number of people which was also caught on camera, and just got fined?
Now I understand that both are very different things. But on the one side, some people are just having an affair and losing their job. On the other hand, someone is punching his teammate in the face and he just has to give a little bit of money (for him it's a very small amount of money I am sure) and that's it?
So being violent is not as bad as having an affair?
What do you guys think about this video? Maybe I missed some recent news, but I just saw this video and was surprised that Westbrook looked like he was offended and was aloof from his teammates during the pregame huddle. At moments like this, the Lakers' chemistry seems pretty bad. Is there any news regarding the Lakers management's plans to trade Westbrook, or is Beverley just affecting him so badly?
Not sure what we can make up of that video, it can be interpreted in many ways and it seems that @Yogee pointed out a good source and summarized it.
In any case though, I think with this recent videos from training are popping around, maybe it's time that smart phones should be ban if someone wants to watch the training. I mean we don't know who is leaking this video, maybe part of the players entourage or someone close to the team. But this shouldn't be disclosed like the Jordan Poole and Draymond Green incident, and TMZ leaking it? I'm sure the person behind made a lot of money from it.
Are others interpreting this as Management taking sides on this? because it seems to be just a slip in the wrist. Or the management might have talk to Jordan Poole before making the decision and maybe Poole doesn't want Green to be fine or something that's why this is their decision. In any case we will see what will be the full extend of this incident. Green could lost the respect from the young guys because of this.
Regardless, the decision shouldn't be influenced by whether Poole will just let it go away or not.
That incident is serious and the management should not tolerate it just because it's "Draymond Green".
Anyways, have to move on now as it was settled properly***. But we don't know the real score behind the curtains.
What do you guys think about this video? Maybe I missed some recent news, but I just saw this video and was surprised that Westbrook looked like he was offended and was aloof from his teammates during the pregame huddle. At moments like this, the Lakers' chemistry seems pretty bad. Is there any news regarding the Lakers management's plans to trade Westbrook, or is Beverley just affecting him so badly?
There was actually another video that went viral where it looks like he also ignored a team huddle call by Pat Beverley. He addressed both videos in an interview,- Pre-game excuse: He's doing his pregame ritual so he couldn't join.
- Bev huddle excuse: He's talking to the coaches about the previous play.
Here's a more complete video where you could see him with the team before he ran to the corner and missed the huddle
https://twitter.com/ClutchPointsApp/status/1580551050670788610
Another clip that shows what he's doing before Pat Bev called for a huddle
https://twitter.com/WorldWideWob/status/1580611313528557570
What do you guys think about this video? Maybe I missed some recent news, but I just saw this video and was surprised that Westbrook looked like he was offended and was aloof from his teammates during the pregame huddle. At moments like this, the Lakers' chemistry seems pretty bad. Is there any news regarding the Lakers management's plans to trade Westbrook, or is Beverley just affecting him so badly?
Not to keep harping on the Draymond Green and Jordan Poole situation, but I read today that if the Warriors were to resign them both, they would have more than a half a billion dollars in luxury taxes to pay. So knowing that, I would say there is a 0% chance the Warriors resign both Poole and Green. The only real question is if Green takes his player option or not, but I don’t see him being on the team after next year no matter what.
Not a good decision to keep both from a business point of view IMO even without their recent "fight". I already said that Green is the most replaceable among the current core players due to his declining performance so I also see the Warriors opting for the players that would carry the club in the future. 
Not to keep harping on the Draymond Green and Jordan Poole situation, but I read today that if the Warriors were to resign them both, they would have more than a half a billion dollars in luxury taxes to pay. So knowing that, I would say there is a 0% chance the Warriors resign both Poole and Green. The only real question is if Green takes his player option or not, but I don’t see him being on the team after next year no matter what.
Exactly!
There is a huge difference between being a great player and to become a great owner.
There's nothing much an owner can do if there's not enough funds to attract good players in comparison with the well established teams, and good players does not play for a team who's struggling to get to the playoffs and receiving lesser contract.
The Charlotte Hornets needs to have a pick like they did in 96. However, I think they are really terrible in building a good team lol.
There is a huge difference between being a great player and to become a great owner.
There's nothing much an owner can do if there's not enough funds to attract good players in comparison with the well established teams, and good players does not play for a team who's struggling to get to the playoffs and receiving lesser contract.
The Charlotte Hornets needs to have a pick like they did in 96. However, I think they are really terrible in building a good team lol.
Well, sad to say but since 1989 they haven't tasted the championship they could only make it to the Easter Conference Semifinals, and after that no more, and from 2017 up to now they have missed Playoffs and that is 6 consecutive times sad to say they can not afford good quality players but they all missed many opportunities In getting one, or didn't really see a potential for a certain player,
Aside from his passing, he should still add some focus to his offense. It will be a good spark between KD, Kyrie and him.
Since both stars are offensive and Simmons will feed them the ball, they can take it or pass it back to Simmons to
go strong to the basket, still young and his upper body is really strong. It's more on how he will take the obligation
in helping the Nets to win more games and a possible chase to win the title.
Well, one should step down from getting all the scores to being the ball handler or making great assists, I think they could only learn from the Golden State Warriors who they really are vocal about their teamwork, and right now they are making progress while the Brooklyn Nets is still struggling
What an interesting season to begin with, there has been a lot players that hasn't played last season because of their respective injuries and now they are coming back, bouncing back and looking forward to get back what they supposed to have. Especially Wiseman, I believe the kid has a lot of potential, just waiting to be unlocked by Steve Kerr.
You gave me a good idea to check the injuries before the season starts. It's actually surprising how short the list is.
Code:
Robert Williams III C Fri, Sep 23 Knee Expected to be out until at least Nov 18
Danilo Gallinari PF Thu, Sep 8 Knee Expected to be out until at least Apr 15 - injured at Eurobasket
T.J. Warren SF Wed, Sep 28 Foot Expected to be out until at least Nov 1
Justin Lewis SF Wed, Oct 12 Knee Out for the season
Lonzo Ball PG Thu, Sep 29 Knee Expected to be out until at least Jan 2
Ricky Rubio PG Wed, Oct 12 Knee Expected to be out until at least Dec 1
Collin Gillespie PG Wed, Sep 21 Lower Leg Expected to be out until at least Dec 1
Marvin Bagley III PF Wed, Oct 12 Knee Expected to be out until at least Nov 2
Jaren Jackson Jr. PF Thu, Jun 30 Foot Expected to be out until at least Nov 1
Danny Green SF Sun, May 15 Knee Expected to be out until at least Apr 1
Joe Ingles SG Thu, Jun 30 Knee Expected to be out until at least Jan 4
Chet Holmgren C Thu, Aug 25 Foot Out for the season
Markelle Fultz PG Sun, Oct 9 Toe Expected to be out until at least Nov 1
Corey Kispert SG Wed, Oct 5 Ankle Expected to be out until at least Nov 2
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/injuries/
I excluded the players whose status is "Game time decision" and "those who will be back this October."
Players listed are those who will take long rest.
This is good news for us, we will certainly be more entertained this season.
Seems to have some notable names on the injured list already, specially Celtics Robert Williams who have played tremendously as a center back up for Al.
And then veterans like Danny Green and Joe Ingles and Ricky Rubio, but nevertheless its not a season ending for the majority except Chet Holmgren so for sure we will see these players making a comeback this season.
Agree with that, it seemed like the consequence is very light, it was a clear violence, he should be suspended at a very least. Well, that's how NBA works, the system is not fair as it favors more to players whom they think is very valuable to a team.
It is. I thought they are clear about how strict they are with the rules, but it seems like they are short on this one case about Draymond Green. Anyway, he will be back in the roster, and it was said in reports that him and Poole already talked. I wish there won't be another incident like this and Green have learned his lesson. There will be eyes everywhere and he should be careful about his sudden uncontrollable anger.
If they sit down and talk and have settled their difference then hopefully there will be no repeat incident because it really give bad impression to their young core specially that Green is supposed to be their 'leader', while Poole is making his name with the team as their next big star.
Nuggets seems to have a lot of talent this year after a win against the Clippers. I wish they could avoid injuries from now on. Jokic will need all the help he could get.
Their big 3 is back, Jokic, Murray and Michael Porter Jr, so this is a exciting season for the Nuggets. And see if Jokic can make it 3 in a row as MVP.
"Fined but not suspended."
https://www.nba.com/news/draymond-green-fined
Here I thought NBA is getting stricter about its rules but I am back to the reality that they are not. Leaked video or not they should be fair about their punishments. What if other players will try the same thing and no camera caught it? Even if there is, they won't be afraid to do it too because they can pay up.
It's safe to assume that this had been the most controversial summer of the league. So many happened in just months of waiting before the tip-off.
https://www.nba.com/news/draymond-green-fined
Quote
Draymond Green has been fined but won’t be suspended by the Golden State Warriors for a violent punch to the face of teammate Jordan Poole last week.
Coach Steve Kerr said after Tuesday’s preseason win against Portland that Green would return to practice Thursday, then play for the defending NBA champions against Denver on Friday night and again in the season opener Tuesday against the Lakers. Kerr, general manager Bob Myers and players have met to decide how to best proceed — including Green and Poole talking to each other.
Watching porn or having a relationship inside the team is worst now than knocking down your teammate. Coach Steve Kerr said after Tuesday’s preseason win against Portland that Green would return to practice Thursday, then play for the defending NBA champions against Denver on Friday night and again in the season opener Tuesday against the Lakers. Kerr, general manager Bob Myers and players have met to decide how to best proceed — including Green and Poole talking to each other.
Here I thought NBA is getting stricter about its rules but I am back to the reality that they are not. Leaked video or not they should be fair about their punishments. What if other players will try the same thing and no camera caught it? Even if there is, they won't be afraid to do it too because they can pay up.
It's safe to assume that this had been the most controversial summer of the league. So many happened in just months of waiting before the tip-off.
It should be fair and square, a fine and a suspension should be given to any players or staff that have broken some rules and shows unprofessionalism. It seems to me that the Warriors is not taking it seriously even if they knew that Poole's family isn't happy of what had happened. It's really fortunate enough that it was caught on video because if not, almost 100% we wouldn't know about it. What a controversial off-season!
Aside from his passing, he should still add some focus to his offense. It will be a good spark between KD, Kyrie and him.
Since both stars are offensive and Simmons will feed them the ball, they can take it or pass it back to Simmons to
go strong to the basket, still young and his upper body is really strong. It's more on how he will take the obligation
in helping the Nets to win more games and a possible chase to win the title.
The good part is, they are an offensive team. So I think they won't force the shooting issue. He can train it if he wants to but I doubt they will expect too much about it. Since both stars are offensive and Simmons will feed them the ball, they can take it or pass it back to Simmons to
go strong to the basket, still young and his upper body is really strong. It's more on how he will take the obligation
in helping the Nets to win more games and a possible chase to win the title.
What an interesting season to begin with, there has been a lot players that hasn't played last season because of their respective injuries and now they are coming back, bouncing back and looking forward to get back what they supposed to have. Especially Wiseman, I believe the kid has a lot of potential, just waiting to be unlocked by Steve Kerr.
You gave me a good idea to check the injuries before the season starts. It's actually surprising how short the list is.
Code:
Robert Williams III C Fri, Sep 23 Knee Expected to be out until at least Nov 18
Danilo Gallinari PF Thu, Sep 8 Knee Expected to be out until at least Apr 15 - injured at Eurobasket
T.J. Warren SF Wed, Sep 28 Foot Expected to be out until at least Nov 1
Justin Lewis SF Wed, Oct 12 Knee Out for the season
Lonzo Ball PG Thu, Sep 29 Knee Expected to be out until at least Jan 2
Ricky Rubio PG Wed, Oct 12 Knee Expected to be out until at least Dec 1
Collin Gillespie PG Wed, Sep 21 Lower Leg Expected to be out until at least Dec 1
Marvin Bagley III PF Wed, Oct 12 Knee Expected to be out until at least Nov 2
Jaren Jackson Jr. PF Thu, Jun 30 Foot Expected to be out until at least Nov 1
Danny Green SF Sun, May 15 Knee Expected to be out until at least Apr 1
Joe Ingles SG Thu, Jun 30 Knee Expected to be out until at least Jan 4
Chet Holmgren C Thu, Aug 25 Foot Out for the season
Markelle Fultz PG Sun, Oct 9 Toe Expected to be out until at least Nov 1
Corey Kispert SG Wed, Oct 5 Ankle Expected to be out until at least Nov 2
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/injuries/
I excluded the players whose status is "Game time decision" and "those who will be back this October."
Players listed are those who will take long rest.
This is good news for us, we will certainly be more entertained this season.
I think the beginning of every year you don't see injuries being reported. Unsure when they have to report them but just knowing from the Knicks, quentin grimes was hurt for the first 3 pre season games but doesn't show up. I'm sure across the board it's like that. Once the regular season games start I think you start to see a different reporting requirement where each team starts piling in theor injuries.
Agree with that, it seemed like the consequence is very light, it was a clear violence, he should be suspended at a very least. Well, that's how NBA works, the system is not fair as it favors more to players whom they think is very valuable to a team.
It is. I thought they are clear about how strict they are with the rules, but it seems like they are short on this one case about Draymond Green. Anyway, he will be back in the roster, and it was said in reports that him and Poole already talked. I wish there won't be another incident like this and Green have learned his lesson. There will be eyes everywhere and he should be careful about his sudden uncontrollable anger.
Nuggets seems to have a lot of talent this year after a win against the Clippers. I wish they could avoid injuries from now on. Jokic will need all the help he could get.
"Fined but not suspended."
https://www.nba.com/news/draymond-green-fined
Here I thought NBA is getting stricter about its rules but I am back to the reality that they are not. Leaked video or not they should be fair about their punishments. What if other players will try the same thing and no camera caught it? Even if there is, they won't be afraid to do it too because they can pay up.
It's safe to assume that this had been the most controversial summer of the league. So many happened in just months of waiting before the tip-off.
https://www.nba.com/news/draymond-green-fined
Quote
Draymond Green has been fined but won’t be suspended by the Golden State Warriors for a violent punch to the face of teammate Jordan Poole last week.
Coach Steve Kerr said after Tuesday’s preseason win against Portland that Green would return to practice Thursday, then play for the defending NBA champions against Denver on Friday night and again in the season opener Tuesday against the Lakers. Kerr, general manager Bob Myers and players have met to decide how to best proceed — including Green and Poole talking to each other.
Watching porn or having a relationship inside the team is worst now than knocking down your teammate. Coach Steve Kerr said after Tuesday’s preseason win against Portland that Green would return to practice Thursday, then play for the defending NBA champions against Denver on Friday night and again in the season opener Tuesday against the Lakers. Kerr, general manager Bob Myers and players have met to decide how to best proceed — including Green and Poole talking to each other.
Here I thought NBA is getting stricter about its rules but I am back to the reality that they are not. Leaked video or not they should be fair about their punishments. What if other players will try the same thing and no camera caught it? Even if there is, they won't be afraid to do it too because they can pay up.
It's safe to assume that this had been the most controversial summer of the league. So many happened in just months of waiting before the tip-off.
It should be fair and square, a fine and a suspension should be given to any players or staff that have broken some rules and shows unprofessionalism. It seems to me that the Warriors is not taking it seriously even if they knew that Poole's family isn't happy of what had happened. It's really fortunate enough that it was caught on video because if not, almost 100% we wouldn't know about it. What a controversial off-season!
Agree with that, it seemed like the consequence is very light, it was a clear violence, he should be suspended at a very least. Well, that's how NBA works, the system is not fair as it favors more to players whom they think is very valuable to a team.
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