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July 28, 2022, 11:41:00 PM

So he knows where his spot is, if he is going to be taken by any teams in the NBA, much more with Warriors, it will be a privilege to say at least for him. Just don't jinx the Warriors though, Lol.

Moving to GSW might give him a better chance in winning a ring, I agree that after signing with Portland way back, he already accepted

his new role, he already surrender that alpha thing and a ball hugger mindset. He can adjust and play alongside with anyone now. We

witness how he adjusts to being a role player now. He just need to adjust to his defense since young stars are really doing a damage

when they see good advantage with the matchup. Melo needs to be willing to hear loud scream with Green! Cool
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July 28, 2022, 09:14:55 PM
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Interesting. This is honestly the first time I heard about that agreement. Is this for real? And Zion accepted that disclosure? lol.

What if even at that weight, he will show dominance and still establish decent stats per game? Maybe that was too much to ask since if they will forced Zion to reduce weight, it will take several months in the process and that might affect his usual game performance once the season commences.

The best way would be, they should see first if Zion's weight will be a big problem to him once official games are now started. From there, they can decide if Zion should take the reduced weight program or just allow him on his usual.

You don't have to wait next season because it is already the source of his lower body injury since he entered the league. Even at 280, he is still overweight since he is just 6'6". Normally, you see that weight to taller guys, 6 ft 9 and higher. That clause in the contract does not only benefit the pelicans but mostly for Zion. If he want to stay longer in the league, he needs to reduce his weight. His playing style already puts too much pressure on his lower body, that pressure multiplies if he keeps getting heavier. So shedding those extra weight will do wonders to his career. 



I think he can find a way to make it happen because if he stays with his old weight, we know for sure that he will likely get injured. He has the talent and he can help his team to succeed, but without consistency because there's no assurance that he could be healthy all throughout, that will only put the teams effort into waste as they will again struggle in the playoffs if ever they will reach the playoffs.
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July 28, 2022, 07:57:48 PM
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Interesting. This is honestly the first time I heard about that agreement. Is this for real? And Zion accepted that disclosure? lol.

What if even at that weight, he will show dominance and still establish decent stats per game? Maybe that was too much to ask since if they will forced Zion to reduce weight, it will take several months in the process and that might affect his usual game performance once the season commences.

The best way would be, they should see first if Zion's weight will be a big problem to him once official games are now started. From there, they can decide if Zion should take the reduced weight program or just allow him on his usual.

You don't have to wait next season because it is already the source of his lower body injury since he entered the league. Even at 280, he is still overweight since he is just 6'6". Normally, you see that weight to taller guys, 6 ft 9 and higher. That clause in the contract does not only benefit the pelicans but mostly for Zion. If he want to stay longer in the league, he needs to reduce his weight. His playing style already puts too much pressure on his lower body, that pressure multiplies if he keeps getting heavier. So shedding those extra weight will do wonders to his career. 

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July 28, 2022, 07:51:22 PM
The Golden State Warriors have shown some interest in picking up Carmelo Anthony for next season. I’m not sure how well he would fit in, but I’m sure he could do some damage off the bench. I’m thinking it would probably be his last chance to win a championship, so it wouldn’t be a bad option for him. I’d wait to see if Kyrie gets traded to the Lakers and see if I could run that back before anything else though.
Not really bad if the GSW will pick him. Last season IIRC it was him that has been taken almost at the last minute since no team would like to have him but good thing he's saved. I guess I like him to be there because of the thought that he's gonna take the ring with him before his retirement.
Maybe all of us would agree with that matter and the rest, arguable about the whatnots of him being in the dub nation.



Carmelo is not as demanding as he was before, he already play the rule that is given to him and I'm pretty sure the Warriors will be able to utilize him because he is a superstar that ha past his prime and not only that, it will also give Melo an advantage because he might won his first championship with the Warriors.

Of course even when he was in Portland, he knows his role already no demands from him. And if I remember it correctly, it was first just a 10 day contract (or is it Houston?).

So he knows where his spot is, if he is going to be taken by any teams in the NBA, much more with Warriors, it will be a privilege to say at least for him. Just don't jinx the Warriors though, Lol.
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July 28, 2022, 06:54:05 PM
What was the best NBA gambling win of your lifetime?

I will never forget this.

In the 2016 NBA Finals where I placed a bet for the Cleveland Cavaliers prior to the start of the Finals and add another risky bet when they downed by 3-1 by the Golden State Warriors. I extend my bet since I already face the risks and hope that miracle will happen lol.

Believe me, only a few will risk betting for a team that is downed by 3-1 in the Finals. If I remember it right, the odds for Cavaliers was @7 that time.

The bet took place in Directbet, one of the popular sports betting sites here.
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July 28, 2022, 06:26:15 PM
So all of a sudden, Draymond Green becomes the center of attention the last few days. Now there's more. He wants a 4-year max contract extension. This means he will be paid $164 million for the next 5 years or around $33 million per year. His current contract would be $25.8 million for the next season and a player option worth $28.5 million in the following season. Draymond is too full of himself. Although he is a very important piece of the team, he is starting to decline with his low stats performance in the last season.

And Draymond also mentioned that he is willing to explore offers from other teams should the Warriors' management not be interested in a max contract extension. Do you guys think Draymond is worth that max extension? His current stats are not even worth his current contract if I were to say, but I got it, the management do not want to break the team's core.      

Due to their good chemistry, I think he deserves to have a max contract because he is a big part of the success of the Warriors. Though his performance has declined there are some games that he really contributes big to win. It's not only about the stats IMO, it's more about the impact in the team, and we cannot deny that without Draymond, the Warriors defense will struggle.

That is why he won the NBA Defensive Player of the Year Award in 2017, and since then he became a key member of the Warriors, I really think the Warriors will struggle if it wasn't for him, I say if the Golden State Warriors can give him his offer, the Warriors should not let Draymond Green leave the team, it is surely heart breaking if the Warriors can not fulfil what he wants,


Unlike with the impact of splash bro, Personally I'll rather choose to give the max contract to Wiggins than him, though it's my opinion and

I'm sure there are many other thoughts about him. He earned a lot of attentions nowadays and with his stupidity and arrogance, it might be very

effective in bringing more engagements to whatever he does. For me, He's a very talkative version of Dennis Rodman, hahaha Grin

There are a lot in Basketball that you will need to know, it is not just dribbling, shooting, and passing the ball, it is very crucial to the team if a player can not defend well, and that is where Draymond Green is good at, you can really never tell that he is a good defender because all we see is player scoring but that is just basic basketball to do to gain score, but in stopping your opponent completely in scoring is just like winning a game, imagine if the Warriors can have 3 Skillful players that have Draymond Greens IQ and calmness in a game I really think the Golden State Warriors opponent will have a less score than them then that is a very Crucial to the team, having good at defense, means you will likely never seen a player like Draymond Green increasing in his stat, and according to statistics Draymond Green really has good stats and having a good output on doing 3 point shots, well, for me, Draymond Green is really essential to the Warriors,

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July 28, 2022, 06:25:28 PM
What was the best NBA gambling win of your lifetime?
I've been consistent on the amount I bet in most games and I'm more on the single than parlay or multi so results doesn't vary that much. Biggest wins are betting on the underdogs of course  and sometimes on favorites with higher handicap. There have been a few of those so I can't really say which one is the best.
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July 28, 2022, 06:08:13 PM
Interesting disclosure about Zion Williamson’s contract with the Pelicans. He’s financially incentivized to keep his weight down or else the amount of guaranteed money in his contract is reduced. I’m order to get the full amount, Zion needs to keep his weight + his body fat % below 295. I imagine that means he needs to stay under 280lbs. While that may seem easy, there were speculations that his weight had ballooned to over 325 while he was injured last year. 

Interesting. This is honestly the first time I heard about that agreement. Is this for real? And Zion accepted that disclosure? lol.

What if even at that weight, he will show dominance and still establish decent stats per game? Maybe that was too much to ask since if they will forced Zion to reduce weight, it will take several months in the process and that might affect his usual game performance once the season commences.

The best way would be, they should see first if Zion's weight will be a big problem to him once official games are now started. From there, they can decide if Zion should take the reduced weight program or just allow him on his usual.

Look at Luka Doncic, noticeably seen that he increases his weight too since he entered the NBA. Slow moving and not that athletic but look, always establishing decent numbers and can even carry a team. Although can't compare to what is happening to Zion, the overall point is just the same.
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July 28, 2022, 06:05:11 PM
Interesting disclosure about Zion Williamson’s contract with the Pelicans. He’s financially incentivized to keep his weight down or else the amount of guaranteed money in his contract is reduced. I’m order to get the full amount, Zion needs to keep his weight + his body fat % below 295. I imagine that means he needs to stay under 280lbs. While that may seem easy, there were speculations that his weight had ballooned to over 325 while he was injured last year.  

A decent amount of contracts have it in their these incentives.  Look at the recent Kyle Murray contract extension that had film study stipulations.  I think with $200mil type contracts these owners are tired of getting screwd since most of them are guaranteed.
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July 28, 2022, 05:53:58 PM
Interesting disclosure about Zion Williamson’s contract with the Pelicans. He’s financially incentivized to keep his weight down or else the amount of guaranteed money in his contract is reduced. I’m order to get the full amount, Zion needs to keep his weight + his body fat % below 295. I imagine that means he needs to stay under 280lbs. While that may seem easy, there were speculations that his weight had ballooned to over 325 while he was injured last year. 
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July 28, 2022, 05:50:03 PM
I was surprised when Kevin Durant asked the Nets to trade him. For this reason, many teams are struggling to add KD to their roster. But it looks like the Nets won't let go of KD easily. If KD leaves Nets it is inevitable that Nets will follow a good player. Contacted Raptors for a swap. The Nets have a strong hand in the KD trade and want rookie of the year Barnes from the Raptors. I think the Nets should send KD and sign Barnes, rookie of the year. This will be very good for their development. Because Barnes is a super player who can go to much better places in the future.
Barnes seems to be off-limits in the Raptors and Nets negotiation for the KD trade package. I don't see any deal happening between them since neither team is willing to budge.

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It should be approached from a visionary point of view. It will be difficult to convince the Raptors.
I don't see anything visionary from the Raptor's point of view. They already won a championship and already found someone to build on after Kahwi and Kyle left.
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July 28, 2022, 05:45:47 PM
It's clear that what Nets are looking for is salary fillers (players unimportant, just match the salary of Durant) along with overhaul of picks, if they can get like 3-4 good picks, then whoever else as a player comes along with that wouldn't be cared.

I doubt that is all they want for Durant. The way they are fleecing the NBA right now, they want to maximize the value they can get from him. Sure they want as many picks they can get because they don't have any picks anymore since they traded them all away. They still want a star to get from durant trade so if they can't trade kyrie away, they can still be legit contender since they still have simmons in their roster.
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July 28, 2022, 05:39:22 PM
Whether Kevin Durant takes a pay cut or not, I just believe that he needs to leave the team. Because this team started to seem not promising to me. They had a huge difficulty in qualifying for even the playoffs. They still failed big time in many games when they had Durant and Irving both in the starting five. Nets had better make some changes in the team. Of course Durant's departure would weaken the team in terms of scoring especially but it is up to them to find an alternative. Durant can be more successful in a decent team.
Define decent team? The standard is the Warriors based on what you're saying since KD failed in the other two teams he has been into. OKC was decent in my opinion but he still decided to run and join the splash brothers to complete a splash family hehe. Nets was also decent and doing well until Kyrie was barred from playing during the height of the pandemic.

For example, there are Suns and Heat which are rumoured to trade Durant and add him to the starting five. These are one of the strongest teams in NBA now. I would like to see Durant in one of these teams to find out how much successful he will be. Yes, Nets were an okay team but something was still going wrong for them. Even KD and Irving both couldn't help the team become more successful. Durant sill has only two championships in his career and maybe he needs some change now to be a winner again.

But the thing with KD is, he bolted out from the Warriors because he wanted his own team, so he did go to the Nets and instrumental on bringing Kyrie as well. But we have seen how disastrous it is, and now he wanted to join another successful them. So again, he will be what others call a bus rider, because he join team that is already strong in the first place. And having him bolster their chances to win a championship like the Suns or Heat, but at what cost.

Difference is he has no say over trade and can't just "join" a successful team.  If the Nets wanted to they can chuck him on a floundering team and let him rot for 3 years so long as that team can provide enough young guys and picks.  In free agency a lot of people do that.  And I actually respect him for that. He could have coat tailed on the Warriors for years always being title favorites.  He knew that was stephs team.  There are few people who are true #1s and steph and Durant are both 1s
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July 28, 2022, 05:37:31 PM
It's clear that what Nets are looking for is salary fillers (players unimportant, just match the salary of Durant) along with overhaul of picks, if they can get like 3-4 good picks, then whoever else as a player comes along with that wouldn't be cared.

Hmm, I think it's not. If that is just simple, there are teams who can match Kevin Durant's salary without risking their players to keep.

It's no secret that Brookly Nets already turned down lots of offers from those who show interest in Kevin Durant as they want good players in return which can't be granted that easily by those teams. It's not just they want some team to match the salary of Durant but they want a better package to fully utilize the trade.

They are trading a wonderful piece, not just a common player, and there's a chance they can get a big-name player too. For now, they don't find yet any good trade package so Durant is still hanging or maybe, no trade will happen and Durant has no choice but to still wear the Nets jersey in the upcoming season.

Well, we don't know though what's happening inside. Let's wait for the progress.
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July 28, 2022, 05:33:11 PM
The Golden State Warriors have shown some interest in picking up Carmelo Anthony for next season. I’m not sure how well he would fit in, but I’m sure he could do some damage off the bench. I’m thinking it would probably be his last chance to win a championship, so it wouldn’t be a bad option for him. I’d wait to see if Kyrie gets traded to the Lakers and see if I could run that back before anything else though.
Not really bad if the GSW will pick him. Last season IIRC it was him that has been taken almost at the last minute since no team would like to have him but good thing he's saved. I guess I like him to be there because of the thought that he's gonna take the ring with him before his retirement.
Maybe all of us would agree with that matter and the rest, arguable about the whatnots of him being in the dub nation.
Carmelo is not as demanding as he was before, he already play the rule that is given to him and I'm pretty sure the Warriors will be able to utilize him because he is a superstar that ha past his prime and not only that, it will also give Melo an advantage because he might won his first championship with the Warriors.
Well, he is passed with his prime now and that's why he's not in the position to demand anymore, or else with his demands, he'll experience again the hardship of being on board.
While the Warriors are still on their greatness, the potential is there that they get a back-to-back championship and Melo could be part of it if they get him this season. Well, for sure, too many fans will be happy for him.
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July 28, 2022, 05:27:46 PM
The Golden State Warriors have shown some interest in picking up Carmelo Anthony for next season. I’m not sure how well he would fit in, but I’m sure he could do some damage off the bench. I’m thinking it would probably be his last chance to win a championship, so it wouldn’t be a bad option for him. I’d wait to see if Kyrie gets traded to the Lakers and see if I could run that back before anything else though.

I think he's a good fit for the GSW coming off the bench. He could definitely do some damage as most of the guys in GSW can shoot everywhere and that gives him the advantage to find an open space where he can shoot uncontested.
I'd definitely love to see him win a championship before he retires. I know he'll have a better chance of winning a championship if joins the Warriors than the rest of his career from different teams.
Coming off the bench? yeah, I think it will be good, but him in the starting five, I doubt that he will fit on that rotation.

Maybe the Warriors thinks he can give 10-15 points solid in any given night. So let's see if the Warriors will give him another chance. Who knows, it could click and perhaps Carmelo Anthony will win his first ring before retiring.

Well, I'm quite sure that he won't be a part of the starting five and it is quite obvious why. The GSW has already established their attacks and the defensive maneuvers they will have to do in any team they face that's why I don't think that they will just add Carmelo on that rotation. He will be good at bench producing nice figures every night and it's much better to give him more exposures as a substitute player because he's already proven to produce numbers.

He will not as he is already a bench player so for sure in GSW he's role will be at the bench. This is good addition since they could use the shooting ability of Melo and fit up on their system. Lets just see if he will get more good exposure in GSW since if he produce good numbers maybe he will also get a ring on this team.
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July 28, 2022, 05:22:47 PM
I was surprised when Kevin Durant asked the Nets to trade him. For this reason, many teams are struggling to add KD to their roster. But it looks like the Nets won't let go of KD easily. If KD leaves Nets it is inevitable that Nets will follow a good player. Contacted Raptors for a swap. The Nets have a strong hand in the KD trade and want rookie of the year Barnes from the Raptors. I think the Nets should send KD and sign Barnes, rookie of the year. This will be very good for their development. Because Barnes is a super player who can go to much better places in the future. It should be approached from a visionary point of view. It will be difficult to convince the Raptors.
The thing is, he could ask to get traded, Simmons did as well and we know how long it took Sixers to deal him away (ironically to nets) and we are going to just keep seeing offers and rumors back to back for a long time until it really happens. There aren't any teams that could offer anything to Nets right now that would be worthy, so we are waiting for Nets to get the "best possible" one and not a worthy one.

It's clear that what Nets are looking for is salary fillers (players unimportant, just match the salary of Durant) along with overhaul of picks, if they can get like 3-4 good picks, then whoever else as a player comes along with that wouldn't be cared.
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July 28, 2022, 04:34:36 PM
The Golden State Warriors have shown some interest in picking up Carmelo Anthony for next season. I’m not sure how well he would fit in, but I’m sure he could do some damage off the bench. I’m thinking it would probably be his last chance to win a championship, so it wouldn’t be a bad option for him.

Regardless if he will be fit or not, for sure his role will be limited and with only limited playing time.

Coming off the bench, Carmelo still has that good shooting form. And l agree with what you said that it might be his last shot to have a chance to experience the NBA Champion as Golden State Warriors will obviously be one of the favorites next season to win the Championship as their Championship lineup is still intact and only have some minor changes right now at this point.

Carmelo will surely just allow the young players to take over his minutes and for these young players, it's good to have Carmelo as their teammates as they might also consider him as an advisor like what Draymond Green is currently doing to their young teammates.
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July 28, 2022, 04:12:33 PM
The Golden State Warriors have shown some interest in picking up Carmelo Anthony for next season. I’m not sure how well he would fit in, but I’m sure he could do some damage off the bench. I’m thinking it would probably be his last chance to win a championship, so it wouldn’t be a bad option for him. I’d wait to see if Kyrie gets traded to the Lakers and see if I could run that back before anything else though.

I think he's a good fit for the GSW coming off the bench. He could definitely do some damage as most of the guys in GSW can shoot everywhere and that gives him the advantage to find an open space where he can shoot uncontested.
I'd definitely love to see him win a championship before he retires. I know he'll have a better chance of winning a championship if joins the Warriors than the rest of his career from different teams.
Coming off the bench? yeah, I think it will be good, but him in the starting five, I doubt that he will fit on that rotation.

Maybe the Warriors thinks he can give 10-15 points solid in any given night. So let's see if the Warriors will give him another chance. Who knows, it could click and perhaps Carmelo Anthony will win his first ring before retiring.

Well, I'm quite sure that he won't be a part of the starting five and it is quite obvious why. The GSW has already established their attacks and the defensive maneuvers they will have to do in any team they face that's why I don't think that they will just add Carmelo on that rotation. He will be good at bench producing nice figures every night and it's much better to give him more exposures as a substitute player because he's already proven to produce numbers.
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