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Quote from: Distinctin on August 26, 2024, 08:53:14 AM

Interesting news here, and worth a read.

LaMarcus Aldridge interested in training with Victor Wembanyama

I think it would be a good decision if they hire this guy as a training coach for Wemby's development. If we've seen how good LA was during his prime, this guy was really unstoppable, especially with his accurate midrange shot. So, what do you guys think about this? Is he the best choice, or is there someone better?

I thought that the Spurs and LA relationship didn't end well as he moved to the Nets. So I think this is still a rumor, although he shows intention to ran it with Wemby, but we will see how the Spurs management will responds to it.

The coach is still Pop and he could have built a relationship with LA and there's nothing personal. Also things that I remember with LaMarcus Aldridge is his fadeaway, maybe Wemby can developed it as well when he go and post up plays and then pull that.

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Quote from: Dave1 on August 26, 2024, 09:28:12 PM

Memphis, GSW and Lakers, they could inter change their positions for me, Ja Morant will be back this season for them and I think fully healed it will be a different Grizzlies team. And then we will see how tough the Warriors will be without Klay Thompson, it might be a different mindset for them for now, as Curry will have to proved himself to be able to carry the team again without Klay.

And the Lakers also hanging on Lebron and AD, they almost had it and upset the Nuggets last year if not for them breaking down the stretch. And with a new coach, it could be a different approach for them.

I also think that at least the Lakers should be ranked a little higher in this prediction. Personally, I expect that their performance in the upcoming season might be at the 6th-7th spot in the standings. As for the Warriors' performance, I doubt that Curry single-handedly will be able to take the team to the playoffs.

Lakers still a finals contender team despite of what happen last season. They still have the great players in the league so provably that things may came different in their side when regular season came in.

Also on Warriors side even if Klay left in their team they also had a great replacement. They had Hield and Melton which provably can contribute in the perimeter, also Mr slow me Andersen is been added which is also a good contributor on defense he can also shoot which is suitable for Warriors type of plays. With current roster they have the Warriors became more better and with their current roster we provably can say that they have a shot to get a playoff spot. But for finals? I think it still questionable.

Melton could just be a back up point guard for Curry, although I think Melton can shoot 3s as well. But I'm interested to see how Buddy Hield will do as a Warrior, he could not be the replacement that we are looking, but he can also shoot high percentage from the outside.

The blue print is still there with the Warriors, on how they filled the void of the players that they have lost. And we can go back to the history of Steve Kerr with the Bulls. Because of the championship experience with Chicago and Phil Jackson and this is what Kerr is obviously following in the Warriors right now.

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Quote from: Dave1 on August 26, 2024, 09:28:12 PM

Memphis, GSW and Lakers, they could inter change their positions for me, Ja Morant will be back this season for them and I think fully healed it will be a different Grizzlies team. And then we will see how tough the Warriors will be without Klay Thompson, it might be a different mindset for them for now, as Curry will have to proved himself to be able to carry the team again without Klay.

And the Lakers also hanging on Lebron and AD, they almost had it and upset the Nuggets last year if not for them breaking down the stretch. And with a new coach, it could be a different approach for them.

I also think that at least the Lakers should be ranked a little higher in this prediction. Personally, I expect that their performance in the upcoming season might be at the 6th-7th spot in the standings. As for the Warriors' performance, I doubt that Curry single-handedly will be able to take the team to the playoffs.

Right, I will also put the Lakers above as well. Curry is old already, and we have seen Green as well, his game going down, and with no other help, it could be just Kuminga and Wiggins but we don't know that mindset of this players, specially Wiggins. I'm not thinking though, if Jordan Poole is still with the Warriors, he might be the next splash brothers. So it's going to be very hard for Curry right now, he still can shoot, but with the current talent the West or the NBA has today, it will take a lot from him just to be in the playoff and not in play-in. Warriors did get some players, but we still haven't seen on how they are going to adjust with the system of Steve Kerr.

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Quote from: Dave1 on August 26, 2024, 09:28:12 PM

Memphis, GSW and Lakers, they could inter change their positions for me, Ja Morant will be back this season for them and I think fully healed it will be a different Grizzlies team. And then we will see how tough the Warriors will be without Klay Thompson, it might be a different mindset for them for now, as Curry will have to proved himself to be able to carry the team again without Klay.

And the Lakers also hanging on Lebron and AD, they almost had it and upset the Nuggets last year if not for them breaking down the stretch. And with a new coach, it could be a different approach for them.

I also think that at least the Lakers should be ranked a little higher in this prediction. Personally, I expect that their performance in the upcoming season might be at the 6th-7th spot in the standings. As for the Warriors' performance, I doubt that Curry single-handedly will be able to take the team to the playoffs.

Lakers still a finals contender team despite of what happen last season. They still have the great players in the league so provably that things may came different in their side when regular season came in.

Also on Warriors side even if Klay left in their team they also had a great replacement. They had Hield and Melton which provably can contribute in the perimeter, also Mr slow me Andersen is been added which is also a good contributor on defense he can also shoot which is suitable for Warriors type of plays. With current roster they have the Warriors became more better and with their current roster we provably can say that they have a shot to get a playoff spot. But for finals? I think it still questionable.

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Quote from: Dave1 on August 26, 2024, 09:28:12 PM

Memphis, GSW and Lakers, they could inter change their positions for me, Ja Morant will be back this season for them and I think fully healed it will be a different Grizzlies team. And then we will see how tough the Warriors will be without Klay Thompson, it might be a different mindset for them for now, as Curry will have to proved himself to be able to carry the team again without Klay.

And the Lakers also hanging on Lebron and AD, they almost had it and upset the Nuggets last year if not for them breaking down the stretch. And with a new coach, it could be a different approach for them.

I also think that at least the Lakers should be ranked a little higher in this prediction. Personally, I expect that their performance in the upcoming season might be at the 6th-7th spot in the standings. As for the Warriors' performance, I doubt that Curry single-handedly will be able to take the team to the playoffs.

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Quote from: stadus on August 25, 2024, 01:31:47 AM

Would you agree with the prediction of the ESPN that the Lakers will fall and will only finish at the number 11th spot?

Here's the prediction from ESPN.

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/40940111/nba-predictions-2024-25-win-loss-records-warriors-thunder-every-west-team

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The contenders
1. Oklahoma City Thunder: 57-25

2. Minnesota Timberwolves: 54-28

3. Dallas Mavericks: 52-30

4. Denver Nuggets: 52-30

5. Phoenix Suns: 49-33

6. Sacramento Kings: 47-35

The play-in group
7. New Orleans Pelicans: 46-36

8. Golden State Warriors: 45-37

9. Memphis Grizzlies: 44-38

10. Houston Rockets: 44-38

The bottom five
11. Los Angeles Lakers: 44-38

12. LA Clippers: 43-39

13. San Antonio Spurs: 35-47

14. Utah Jazz: 26-56

15. Portland Trail Blazers: 22-60

Factors that affected the Lakers for the expert to came up with that prediction is the new coach JJ Reddick and probably not adding some role players that would improve the roster.

I would swap the Warriors with the Lakers on this list. I'm not that high on the Lakers but I think the Warriors are in a tougher spot I think. The mental break of klay leaving I think will make a difference. It was always steph klay and draymond. Whenever you break up the band and try to patchwork it usually ends up with disastrous results. Just a differemt texture to the locker room and everything. Other than that I think espn is spot on.

Memphis, GSW and Lakers, they could inter change their positions for me, Ja Morant will be back this season for them and I think fully healed it will be a different Grizzlies team. And then we will see how tough the Warriors will be without Klay Thompson, it might be a different mindset for them for now, as Curry will have to proved himself to be able to carry the team again without Klay.

And the Lakers also hanging on Lebron and AD, they almost had it and upset the Nuggets last year if not for them breaking down the stretch. And with a new coach, it could be a different approach for them.

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Quote from: Distinctin on August 26, 2024, 08:53:14 AM

Interesting news here, and worth a read.

LaMarcus Aldridge interested in training with Victor Wembanyama

I think it would be a good decision if they hire this guy as a training coach for Wemby's development. If we've seen how good LA was during his prime, this guy was really unstoppable, especially with his accurate midrange shot. So, what do you guys think about this? Is he the best choice, or is there someone better?

Yeah, I think Wemby needs a mentor and we have seen former players who become mentor as well like Hakeem. And LA during his prime was a good player specially with Portland and San Antonio, that is his prime years.

He knows how to post up, and play in front of the basket as a big man. So for sure with LA's experience, he will be a good mentor for Wemby. Only if and Kawhi could have click with the Spurs back then, it might produce them another ring.

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Quote from: stadus on August 25, 2024, 01:31:47 AM

Would you agree with the prediction of the ESPN that the Lakers will fall and will only finish at the number 11th spot?

Here's the prediction from ESPN.

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/40940111/nba-predictions-2024-25-win-loss-records-warriors-thunder-every-west-team

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The contenders
1. Oklahoma City Thunder: 57-25

2. Minnesota Timberwolves: 54-28

3. Dallas Mavericks: 52-30

4. Denver Nuggets: 52-30

5. Phoenix Suns: 49-33

6. Sacramento Kings: 47-35

The play-in group
7. New Orleans Pelicans: 46-36

8. Golden State Warriors: 45-37

9. Memphis Grizzlies: 44-38

10. Houston Rockets: 44-38

The bottom five
11. Los Angeles Lakers: 44-38

12. LA Clippers: 43-39

13. San Antonio Spurs: 35-47

14. Utah Jazz: 26-56

15. Portland Trail Blazers: 22-60

Factors that affected the Lakers for the expert to came up with that prediction is the new coach JJ Reddick and probably not adding some role players that would improve the roster.

I would swap the Warriors with the Lakers on this list. I'm not that high on the Lakers but I think the Warriors are in a tougher spot I think. The mental break of klay leaving I think will make a difference. It was always steph klay and draymond. Whenever you break up the band and try to patchwork it usually ends up with disastrous results. Just a differemt texture to the locker room and everything. Other than that I think espn is spot on.

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Quote from: Fredomago on August 26, 2024, 07:42:08 AM

someone who wants to make money from social media post which attracting interest from readers and viewers, for sure if there's real news like it won't be secret as social media accounts of both the players and the teams who are involve with this rumor trades but most likely not going to happen as there are factors affects the possibilities that it will take place.

This is what I say when people talk about "fake news on legacy media" about politics, like cnn and msnbc and fox etc etc all lie to you (true) but then you think someone on twitter is saying the truth? Lol, how could that be real and why would anyone believe that ever, that's funny. This Curry and Lebron business has always been like that too, and whenever one of them did anything even remotely suspicious then we are talking about something that's not really that complicated, it's normal and nothing major.

I feel like they take the smallest things, like Curry took off warriors and put Olympic champions, and run with it because they want the attention. You know what's worse? Someone shares that, and gets a bit of attention, and then million other accounts share the same thing, either word for word verbatim, or just same thing with different words, hoping to get a bit of attention too. Because on social media, you try to get attention, that's your currency there.

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Interesting news here, and worth a read.

LaMarcus Aldridge interested in training with Victor Wembanyama

I think it would be a good decision if they hire this guy as a training coach for Wemby's development. If we've seen how good LA was during his prime, this guy was really unstoppable, especially with his accurate midrange shot. So, what do you guys think about this? Is he the best choice, or is there someone better?

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Curry leaving Warriors would be like Tim Duncan leaving San Antonio, or Kobe leaving Lakers, I do not think that it is going to happen. Even if they suck for the remainder of his career there, he will just stick with them and play the best ball he could play. Look at Kobe, he didn't had great teams at all times, he had horrible teams between shaq and gasol period, and he had terrible teams on the last years of his life as well, he didn't leave the team and stick with them and played 20 years.

All in all, I still think that Curry owes Warriors a lot and Warriors owe Curry a lot and they are just going to pay him the maximum. They will of course try their best to build a good team around him, but I do not think that it will be that easy at all.

It still depends on the management. Some team has the worst management which they let star player nearly out of their prime trade for young promising players but I agree with you that Warriors will definitely keep Curry until the end since he has a lot of supporters that will help Warriors boost popularity that is crucial on their team profit through ticket sales and sponsors.

Curry is still has a lot of skills and still on his prime which is why talking about this topic is still not relevant for now. Maybe we can discuss this topic later on if show weakness like Thompson did.

Not sure if how Lakers will convince both Curry and warriors management, I mean what offer they can give allowing the value of Curry, not unless there's a problem internally between Curry and warriors team owners or something that can lead to departure of Curry but for now, I'm not sure if how convincing it is that this trade rumors will be executed. We stil have until the trade deadline which most of those shocking trade surprises take place.

I find it impossible to happen now since for sure their careers is already sealed with current teams where they are. Also for sure that they retire on which team they currently on and same goes with Curry since I think he remain to be a Warrior. Curry still good in Warriors despite of what happen recently when Klay is out in their team, but for sure this is not enough reason for him to ask a trade and paired up with Lebron.

Its just there are people creating a drama on their last Olympics run and just want to earned huge traffic to their articles.

New meta for some media now is to edit the pic of well known superstar wearing other teams jersey and create a rumor then boom they have good article which provably can catch the attention of NBA fans all over the world.

Yeah right, someone who wants to make money from social media post which attracting interest from readers and viewers, for sure if there's real news like it won't be secret as social media accounts of both the players and the teams who are involve with this rumor trades but most likely not going to happen as there are factors affects the possibilities that it will take place.

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Quote from: ChiBitCTy on August 25, 2024, 08:15:16 PM

I can’t see the Lakers falling that far. I’m not sure what free agents out there ,there might be, but I assume they’ve got some targets in mind that should help finish above that spot too.

Well the list looks quite accurate to me. Sure, the Lakers seem to be pretty far down but which team above them could one really put below? Many teams improved their roster while the Lakers pretty much stood pat.

The Lakers failed last season, and if they fail again, we might see AD or LeBron leaving the team. Most likely, J.J. Redick would be fired as well since coaches are often the first to be blamed when a team underperforms. If LeBron does leave, there could be a possibility of him joining the Warriors, provided the salary cap allows it. LeBron might also sacrifice a higher salary to increase his chances of winning another championship.

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Maybe Houston takes a step back from last season but I don't really see any other team to be weaker than the Lakers tbh.

Rockets might be in the playoffs but I'm not seeing this team to progress, probably just a first round exit.

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Quote from: ChiBitCTy on August 25, 2024, 08:15:16 PM

I can’t see the Lakers falling that far. I’m not sure what free agents out there ,there might be, but I assume they’ve got some targets in mind that should help finish above that spot too.

Well the list looks quite accurate to me. Sure, the Lakers seem to be pretty far down but which team above them could one really put below? Many teams improved their roster while the Lakers pretty much stood pat.

Maybe Houston takes a step back from last season but I don't really see any other team to be weaker than the Lakers tbh.

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Quote from: stadus on August 25, 2024, 01:31:47 AM

Would you agree with the prediction of the ESPN that the Lakers will fall and will only finish at the number 11th spot?

Here's the prediction from ESPN.

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/40940111/nba-predictions-2024-25-win-loss-records-warriors-thunder-every-west-team

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The contenders
1. Oklahoma City Thunder: 57-25

2. Minnesota Timberwolves: 54-28

3. Dallas Mavericks: 52-30

4. Denver Nuggets: 52-30

5. Phoenix Suns: 49-33

6. Sacramento Kings: 47-35

The play-in group
7. New Orleans Pelicans: 46-36

8. Golden State Warriors: 45-37

9. Memphis Grizzlies: 44-38

10. Houston Rockets: 44-38

The bottom five
11. Los Angeles Lakers: 44-38

12. LA Clippers: 43-39

13. San Antonio Spurs: 35-47

14. Utah Jazz: 26-56

15. Portland Trail Blazers: 22-60

Factors that affected the Lakers for the expert to came up with that prediction is the new coach JJ Reddick and probably not adding some role players that would improve the roster.

This link takes you to ESPN+ . Assuming you’ve got it. Annoys the ever living hell out of me how much of their content has moved to ESPN+ premium content. But that’s another story for another day

I can’t see the Lakers falling that far. I’m not sure what free agents out there ,there might be, but I assume they’ve got some targets in mind that should help finish above that spot too.

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Quote from: henmark on August 25, 2024, 09:44:04 AM

Curry leaving Warriors would be like Tim Duncan leaving San Antonio, or Kobe leaving Lakers, I do not think that it is going to happen. Even if they suck for the remainder of his career there, he will just stick with them and play the best ball he could play. Look at Kobe, he didn't had great teams at all times, he had horrible teams between shaq and gasol period, and he had terrible teams on the last years of his life as well, he didn't leave the team and stick with them and played 20 years.

All in all, I still think that Curry owes Warriors a lot and Warriors owe Curry a lot and they are just going to pay him the maximum. They will of course try their best to build a good team around him, but I do not think that it will be that easy at all.

It still depends on the management. Some team has the worst management which they let star player nearly out of their prime trade for young promising players but I agree with you that Warriors will definitely keep Curry until the end since he has a lot of supporters that will help Warriors boost popularity that is crucial on their team profit through ticket sales and sponsors.

Curry is still has a lot of skills and still on his prime which is why talking about this topic is still not relevant for now. Maybe we can discuss this topic later on if show weakness like Thompson did.

Not sure if how Lakers will convince both Curry and warriors management, I mean what offer they can give allowing the value of Curry, not unless there's a problem internally between Curry and warriors team owners or something that can lead to departure of Curry but for now, I'm not sure if how convincing it is that this trade rumors will be executed. We stil have until the trade deadline which most of those shocking trade surprises take place.

I find it impossible to happen now since for sure their careers is already sealed with current teams where they are. Also for sure that they retire on which team they currently on and same goes with Curry since I think he remain to be a Warrior. Curry still good in Warriors despite of what happen recently when Klay is out in their team, but for sure this is not enough reason for him to ask a trade and paired up with Lebron.

Its just there are people creating a drama on their last Olympics run and just want to earned huge traffic to their articles.

New meta for some media now is to edit the pic of well known superstar wearing other teams jersey and create a rumor then boom they have good article which provably can catch the attention of NBA fans all over the world.

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Quote from: AbuBhakar on August 25, 2024, 10:47:31 AM

Quote from: henmark on August 25, 2024, 09:44:04 AM

Curry leaving Warriors would be like Tim Duncan leaving San Antonio, or Kobe leaving Lakers, I do not think that it is going to happen. Even if they suck for the remainder of his career there, he will just stick with them and play the best ball he could play. Look at Kobe, he didn't had great teams at all times, he had horrible teams between shaq and gasol period, and he had terrible teams on the last years of his life as well, he didn't leave the team and stick with them and played 20 years.

All in all, I still think that Curry owes Warriors a lot and Warriors owe Curry a lot and they are just going to pay him the maximum. They will of course try their best to build a good team around him, but I do not think that it will be that easy at all.

It still depends on the management. Some team has the worst management which they let star player nearly out of their prime trade for young promising players but I agree with you that Warriors will definitely keep Curry until the end since he has a lot of supporters that will help Warriors boost popularity that is crucial on their team profit through ticket sales and sponsors.

Curry is still has a lot of skills and still on his prime which is why talking about this topic is still not relevant for now. Maybe we can discuss this topic later on if show weakness like Thompson did.

Not sure if how Lakers will convince both Curry and warriors management, I mean what offer they can give allowing the value of Curry, not unless there's a problem internally between Curry and warriors team owners or something that can lead to departure of Curry but for now, I'm not sure if how convincing it is that this trade rumors will be executed. We stil have until the trade deadline which most of those shocking trade surprises take place.

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Quote from: stadus on August 25, 2024, 01:31:47 AM

Would you agree with the prediction of the ESPN that the Lakers will fall and will only finish at the number 11th spot?

Here's the prediction from ESPN.

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/40940111/nba-predictions-2024-25-win-loss-records-warriors-thunder-every-west-team

I'd agree with the contenders list but I am excited to watch how the Memphis Grizzlies will do. Watching the practice videos of Ja Morant and Zach Edey seems optimistic.

Imagine Ja Morant ball handling and having a tall guy that can do whatever he want, pass the ball to him or assist him. It's like a Murray and Jokic tandem but inside the paint.

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Quote from: henmark on August 25, 2024, 09:44:04 AM

Curry leaving Warriors would be like Tim Duncan leaving San Antonio, or Kobe leaving Lakers, I do not think that it is going to happen. Even if they suck for the remainder of his career there, he will just stick with them and play the best ball he could play. Look at Kobe, he didn't had great teams at all times, he had horrible teams between shaq and gasol period, and he had terrible teams on the last years of his life as well, he didn't leave the team and stick with them and played 20 years.

All in all, I still think that Curry owes Warriors a lot and Warriors owe Curry a lot and they are just going to pay him the maximum. They will of course try their best to build a good team around him, but I do not think that it will be that easy at all.

It still depends on the management. Some team has the worst management which they let star player nearly out of their prime trade for young promising players but I agree with you that Warriors will definitely keep Curry until the end since he has a lot of supporters that will help Warriors boost popularity that is crucial on their team profit through ticket sales and sponsors.

Curry is still has a lot of skills and still on his prime which is why talking about this topic is still not relevant for now. Maybe we can discuss this topic later on if show weakness like Thompson did.

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Quote from: stadus on August 25, 2024, 07:29:08 AM

AD was healthy last season, but it seems like they can't advance in the WCF again. They didn't make a major movement on their roster but changed their coach, so what they want to tell us is that they don't have a problem with their roster but that the coaching is weak, which they want to improve, and let's see if hiring a young coach will solve that problem. I understand the prediction of ESPN, I think better that way than still hyping them despite their failure last season, so maybe they'll surprise us with LeBron winning another chip.

But at the 11th spot is underestimating the Lakers way too much. I mean, I could agree with the highest in the play-in tournament like the 7th or 8th spot in the West but 11th is just too much.

Not making a major movement in the roster could be a good thing. Chemistry. This is the problem with some of the fans of their favorite teams, they want major changes while the truth is not changing anything could also be beneficial for the team. I read Lebron had been doing his own chemistry-building with the team by inviting them to his events and I think that's a good thing.
I won't make any assumptions like winning the title this year but being on the 2nd or semis of the playoffs will be big for Lebron and his crew. It doesn't need to be a ring.

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Curry leaving Warriors would be like Tim Duncan leaving San Antonio, or Kobe leaving Lakers, I do not think that it is going to happen. Even if they suck for the remainder of his career there, he will just stick with them and play the best ball he could play. Look at Kobe, he didn't had great teams at all times, he had horrible teams between shaq and gasol period, and he had terrible teams on the last years of his life as well, he didn't leave the team and stick with them and played 20 years.

All in all, I still think that Curry owes Warriors a lot and Warriors owe Curry a lot and they are just going to pay him the maximum. They will of course try their best to build a good team around him, but I do not think that it will be that easy at all.

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