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Quote from: dwyane36 on July 10, 2024, 08:39:57 AM

Yep, the Wolves were able to beat the Nuggets, but then they screwed up in the next round with the Mavs. Honestly, their playoff performance could have been better.
As for KAT, he has a huge contract with the Wolves, and he's actually one of the team's major assets. Even if there are rumors of him being traded, it's obvious that Wolves management won't give him away for nothing.

Wolves line-up is proven weak against a team that can shoot 3 points so accurately like Mavs since Wolves defense is only good in the inside while useless on the perimeter shooters. Also their tall line-up becomes their weakness when it comes to speed on positioning defense against fast team like Mavs.

Also Mavs center somehow managed to outsmart Gobert and Kat defense to create an opening for Mavs perimeter shooter. I doubt that they can even beat Boston if ever they are the one who won the WCF. Wolves is very is to lockdown since only ANT can shoot.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on July 10, 2024, 03:31:59 AM

How about the rumor that the New York Knicks is pursuing Karl Anthony Towns from the Wolves? Do they think that KAT is a perfect fit for them that Julius Randle? I know that Julius is injured, but still I think the did good in terms of the numbers against the current champion Boston Celtics. Just imagine if he is healthy in their playoff run, it could be a very different outcome and for sure they will go day in day out to fight and try to win with Randle. And with that, there's a lot of rumors about them getting KAT. And in terms of leadership, I think he will still be the man in New York, but they have a lot of options now with Brunson putting up a numbers for a small guy in the Knicks uniform.

Though KAT is not consistent but if he and Randle will be healthy playing together with Brunson and the rest of the squad they will create a competitive lineup. I like the idea of bringing them together though it's not an easy task for the coaching staff knowing that all those 3 stars are more on handling the ball or more on wanting the ball.

Not sure if Timverwolves will let KAT go as they got a good campaign last season beating the defending champ, though knowing that rumor sometimes happened, let see what will be the update about it.

Yep, the Wolves were able to beat the Nuggets, but then they screwed up in the next round with the Mavs. Honestly, their playoff performance could have been better.
As for KAT, he has a huge contract with the Wolves, and he's actually one of the team's major assets. Even if there are rumors of him being traded, it's obvious that Wolves management won't give him away for nothing.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on July 10, 2024, 03:31:59 AM

How about the rumor that the New York Knicks is pursuing Karl Anthony Towns from the Wolves? Do they think that KAT is a perfect fit for them that Julius Randle? I know that Julius is injured, but still I think the did good in terms of the numbers against the current champion Boston Celtics. Just imagine if he is healthy in their playoff run, it could be a very different outcome and for sure they will go day in day out to fight and try to win with Randle. And with that, there's a lot of rumors about them getting KAT. And in terms of leadership, I think he will still be the man in New York, but they have a lot of options now with Brunson putting up a numbers for a small guy in the Knicks uniform.

Though KAT is not consistent but if he and Randle will be healthy playing together with Brunson and the rest of the squad they will create a competitive lineup. I like the idea of bringing them together though it's not an easy task for the coaching staff knowing that all those 3 stars are more on handling the ball or more on wanting the ball.

Not sure if Timverwolves will let KAT go as they got a good campaign last season beating the defending champ, though knowing that rumor sometimes happened, let see what will be the update about it.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on July 10, 2024, 03:31:59 AM

How about the rumor that the New York Knicks is pursuing Karl Anthony Towns from the Wolves? Do they think that KAT is a perfect fit for them that Julius Randle? I know that Julius is injured, but still I think the did good in terms of the numbers against the current champion Boston Celtics. Just imagine if he is healthy in their playoff run, it could be a very different outcome and for sure they will go day in day out to fight and try to win with Randle. And with that, there's a lot of rumors about them getting KAT. And in terms of leadership, I think he will still be the man in New York, but they have a lot of options now with Brunson putting up a numbers for a small guy in the Knicks uniform.

KAT is pretty inconsistent honestly. I would rather keep Randle and see what happens. Randle is the better player as far as consistency goes, minus the injury, but any player could get injured at any given time IMO.

I think it would defendo on the coaching style. I believe KAT is a real talented player but without a proper play, he won't be able to maximize his talent. I believe he only struggled against the Mavericks, before that, he was contributing good numbers resulting to winning the series. If the Knicks would acquire KAT, they need to trade Randle IMO because the Knicks had already had success without Randle, so KAT being added to the team would just result to a better improvement.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on July 10, 2024, 03:31:59 AM

How about the rumor that the New York Knicks is pursuing Karl Anthony Towns from the Wolves? Do they think that KAT is a perfect fit for them that Julius Randle? I know that Julius is injured, but still I think the did good in terms of the numbers against the current champion Boston Celtics. Just imagine if he is healthy in their playoff run, it could be a very different outcome and for sure they will go day in day out to fight and try to win with Randle. And with that, there's a lot of rumors about them getting KAT. And in terms of leadership, I think he will still be the man in New York, but they have a lot of options now with Brunson putting up a numbers for a small guy in the Knicks uniform.

KAT is pretty inconsistent honestly. I would rather keep Randle and see what happens. Randle is the better player as far as consistency goes, minus the injury, but any player could get injured at any given time IMO.

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How about the rumor that the New York Knicks is pursuing Karl Anthony Towns from the Wolves? Do they think that KAT is a perfect fit for them that Julius Randle? I know that Julius is injured, but still I think the did good in terms of the numbers against the current champion Boston Celtics. Just imagine if he is healthy in their playoff run, it could be a very different outcome and for sure they will go day in day out to fight and try to win with Randle. And with that, there's a lot of rumors about them getting KAT. And in terms of leadership, I think he will still be the man in New York, but they have a lot of options now with Brunson putting up a numbers for a small guy in the Knicks uniform.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on July 09, 2024, 02:41:49 PM

Knicks are being overestimated without a doubt. They are in discussion with being similar to Celtics? Give me a break, not even a single player in Knicks could be considered good enough to be in Celtics, that's not the case at all.

We should consider the fact that Knicks are not doing that well and we will not see them do any better or greater, we are going to see them be a playoff level team and that's it nothing more. That should be the level they are stuck at now because they gave away their picks as well. Do not overestimate them, do not expect a finals from them, it requires a huge miracle for that group of players to be there, the skill level and the talent they have is nowhere to be close to what other teams have.

I totally agree that people are thinking too highly of Knicks. Comparing them to Celtics is ridiculous as Knicks do not have any players as good as Celtics players. Let's be honest Knicks are just an average team that might make playoffs but that is it. They traded away their chances for better future, so thinking they will suddenly become great is unrealistic. It would take a miracle for them to make it to the finals because they are not good enough to compete with the best teams. We should be realistic and see the Knicks for what they are a team that's not going anywhere special.

But they did have a special season, with Brunson leading the team so how can you say that they are just a average team when they really put out a great performance, it's that their are somewhat injury plague and so they feel short.

Of course, it will not be a sudden move and then they will be the champion or at least be the East conference champions. Everything should fit, just like what the Celtics did, they trade some of their players like Marcus Smart and that experience losing to the Warriors was big for them as they come back really motivated after two years and now they are crown the champion.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on July 09, 2024, 02:41:49 PM

Knicks are being overestimated without a doubt. They are in discussion with being similar to Celtics? Give me a break, not even a single player in Knicks could be considered good enough to be in Celtics, that's not the case at all.

We should consider the fact that Knicks are not doing that well and we will not see them do any better or greater, we are going to see them be a playoff level team and that's it nothing more. That should be the level they are stuck at now because they gave away their picks as well. Do not overestimate them, do not expect a finals from them, it requires a huge miracle for that group of players to be there, the skill level and the talent they have is nowhere to be close to what other teams have.

Yeah, I heard that too. I think the right word was "challenge" the Celtics team. They ain't similar but both will be playing small ball kind of plays with the most strength coming from the guards. The Knicks have an identical roster now, they will be focusing all their attacks using their guards and their defense too. Their only trouble is if they are playing against teams like Denver Nuggets which focuses on a big man like Jokic. Oh, and 76ers too with Embiid.

Anyway, they might win the Conference but let's be real, the West are also fortifying their rosters and they are also targeting the Celtics plays. Dallas Mavericks already made their move by strengthening their core.
For the East, they might want to look at the 76ers too, and be careful with them. Embiid with a healthy PG13 and Maxey will be a force that can win the East too.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on July 09, 2024, 02:41:49 PM

Knicks are being overestimated without a doubt. They are in discussion with being similar to Celtics? Give me a break, not even a single player in Knicks could be considered good enough to be in Celtics, that's not the case at all.

We should consider the fact that Knicks are not doing that well and we will not see them do any better or greater, we are going to see them be a playoff level team and that's it nothing more. That should be the level they are stuck at now because they gave away their picks as well. Do not overestimate them, do not expect a finals from them, it requires a huge miracle for that group of players to be there, the skill level and the talent they have is nowhere to be close to what other teams have.

I totally agree that people are thinking too highly of Knicks. Comparing them to Celtics is ridiculous as Knicks do not have any players as good as Celtics players. Let's be honest Knicks are just an average team that might make playoffs but that is it. They traded away their chances for better future, so thinking they will suddenly become great is unrealistic. It would take a miracle for them to make it to the finals because they are not good enough to compete with the best teams. We should be realistic and see the Knicks for what they are a team that's not going anywhere special.

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Quote from: OgNasty on July 09, 2024, 12:40:54 PM

LeBron being voted as the best player on team USA by his peers is pretty crazy. He’s pushing 40 years old and the best players on the planet still think he’s the best of the best. Looking forward to seeing them start playing other teams this week. Anthony Edwards on the floor with Stephen Curry might be something special.

They did it out of respect. At least that's what I see that's why they voted him. I mean who in the USA team has as many achievements as Lebron has right now? There's no that comes close, not even Steph Curry or Durant. I see Lebron as one of the best NBA players ever played despite the controversies and his abuse in his power, but this USA team is just very dangerous in the Paris Olympics, aren't they?

Quote from: el kaka22 on July 09, 2024, 02:41:49 PM

Knicks are being overestimated without a doubt. They are in discussion with being similar to Celtics? Give me a break, not even a single player in Knicks could be considered good enough to be in Celtics, that's not the case at all.

We should consider the fact that Knicks are not doing that well and we will not see them do any better or greater, we are going to see them be a playoff level team and that's it nothing more. That should be the level they are stuck at now because they gave away their picks as well. Do not overestimate them, do not expect a finals from them, it requires a huge miracle for that group of players to be there, the skill level and the talent they have is nowhere to be close to what other teams have.

The Knicks are better with their current line up, but I should say that they are nowhere near the Celtics. The Celtics are still the kings of the East. Whoever said that the Knicks are as equal as the Celtics in terms of talent might be a bit bias and probably a Knicks fan. Cheesy

Anyway, I don't like how Thibs played his players during the playoffs. Hart, DiVincenzo and Brunson played more than 40+ minutes in most of their playoff games and there are times where Hart played every second of the game. That's not sustainable for a player in the long run. The Knicks doesn't have any reliable center since they gave away Hartenstein to the Thunder. They need a big that will help them defend the paint. The Celtics proved already that they are the Kings of the East because they won. Knicks? They even lost to the young Pacers team last playoffs. It's nowhere near.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on July 09, 2024, 02:41:49 PM

Knicks are being overestimated without a doubt. They are in discussion with being similar to Celtics? Give me a break, not even a single player in Knicks could be considered good enough to be in Celtics, that's not the case at all.

We should consider the fact that Knicks are not doing that well and we will not see them do any better or greater, we are going to see them be a playoff level team and that's it nothing more. That should be the level they are stuck at now because they gave away their picks as well. Do not overestimate them, do not expect a finals from them, it requires a huge miracle for that group of players to be there, the skill level and the talent they have is nowhere to be close to what other teams have.

I tend to agree with you. I thought they overperformed like crazy last year and some people started overestimating players like Brunson. This year I think they’re going to face much harder competition as teams begin game planning for them. I should also admit I hate the Knicks and have since the Ewing days.

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Knicks are being overestimated without a doubt. They are in discussion with being similar to Celtics? Give me a break, not even a single player in Knicks could be considered good enough to be in Celtics, that's not the case at all.

We should consider the fact that Knicks are not doing that well and we will not see them do any better or greater, we are going to see them be a playoff level team and that's it nothing more. That should be the level they are stuck at now because they gave away their picks as well. Do not overestimate them, do not expect a finals from them, it requires a huge miracle for that group of players to be there, the skill level and the talent they have is nowhere to be close to what other teams have.

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Quote from: TravelMug on July 09, 2024, 03:43:57 AM

As for the Summer League, no I'm not going to bet or even watch the games, might be better to see the FIBA Olympics qualifiers over the NBA for now.

The practice of Team USA versus Team Select was even worthier to watch than the Summer League's.

I agree that I'd watch more of the Olympics qualifier matches even if they're replays than of the SLs. Tongue

No hate but that's the reality, SL is like testing waters to check the teams who are they gonna continue to sign or not.

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LeBron being voted as the best player on team USA by his peers is pretty crazy. He’s pushing 40 years old and the best players on the planet still think he’s the best of the best. Looking forward to seeing them start playing other teams this week. Anthony Edwards on the floor with Stephen Curry might be something special.

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Look how Bronny perform on his past summer league performance he didn't end up well. So I guess Lakers already have a short glimpse of possible what performance he can provide to them. I guess Lakers just hire professional cheer leader in their bench and it seems that they will end up in bad place again this season. Hopefully there would be a better adjustment and improvements since its still good to see Lebron on Playoffs.

It's just Bronny's first steps in the NBA, but I don't think anyone expects anything special from him anyway. After all, if a player couldn't prove himself in the NCAA, the chance that he will be able to prove himself in the NBA will tend to be zero. Moreover, I think Bronny is also emotionally pressured by his father's status and his influence in the league.

If he felt pressured, he should not have applied for the draft, but he did and got a chance to play in the NBA. I think this is by far his biggest achievement in his career as a professional basketball player. However, his statistics are not even close to his father's. The pressure was already high when he was still in the NCAA. Being the son of a future Hall of Famer, that's normal. But I'm sure he can handle that pressure as he is not the only son of a Hall of Famer who is not as good as his father. Even the sons of Michael Jordan are not in the NBA.

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Quote from: ultrloa on July 09, 2024, 04:39:30 AM

Look how Bronny perform on his past summer league performance he didn't end up well. So I guess Lakers already have a short glimpse of possible what performance he can provide to them. I guess Lakers just hire professional cheer leader in their bench and it seems that they will end up in bad place again this season. Hopefully there would be a better adjustment and improvements since its still good to see Lebron on Playoffs.

It's just Bronny's first steps in the NBA, but I don't think anyone expects anything special from him anyway. After all, if a player couldn't prove himself in the NCAA, the chance that he will be able to prove himself in the NBA will tend to be zero. Moreover, I think Bronny is also emotionally pressured by his father's status and his influence in the league.

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Lakers management especially Pelinka seems not really good to handle their team and it seems he always commit bad decision which Lakers would suffer at the end.

Yeah, I don't know what Pelinka is still with the Lakers though, after winning a ring, all his decisions, including coaches are all failure and I don't understand why Jeannie Buss still keeps him. They should have fired him after the season that they won their championship. And now, they will have to chase to stay abreast with the Boston Celtics, as they won their 18 championship as compare to the Lakers which stands at 17.

The thing is they always blame their issues to their coach or to other people, while the fact is their management already been fuck up. If Pelinka will be fired out on his position due to his carelessness also wrong judgement of a lot of things in their organization then provably they can get their 18th championship. Boston now is ahead of 1 championship with them and I guess it will be so hard for Lakers to win a championship next season especially that they didn't made a good move on free agency plus the players they get from draft is not so really good especially Bronny. Lakers is just pure entertainment team and for sure they will be in talks because of controversy and circus happening on their team.

That's how it is, they will always have to put the blame on the coach, and that' why we said that their job tenure is not safe even if they have been awarded by a good contract, they can still be terminated but not the President or Vice President for Operations, they are untouchable unless it's the owner that will decide that they will have to find a new one and fire them but it will cost them a lot of money.

No offense to Bronny, but it seems that it's nepotism that really prevail that's they Rob Pelinka pick him at 55th. If not for Lebron's influence, his son will not be pick up any any team in the NBA in my opinion. So the Lakers will have to lose in the trade again as they didn't pick up good players to bolster their lineup.

But even they are not performing that well as long the business is doing good I guess the managements will keep him, that's how it works more on the money side, I also feel that they are not bringing a competitive squad or preparing for the next season though they still have the trade deadlines if they also considering to be competitive but in this early stage not seeing that move aside from hiring a new coach and drafting controversial rookie.

No offense but it's the reality in terms of bringing Bronny to the team to keep LeBron considering him as still good for marketing and continue bringing money to the franchise.

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Quote from: rdbase on July 09, 2024, 04:18:44 AM

^^
Completely agree with what everybody has said about the Summer League games:
They are not something to bet on because they are just for teams to feel out the new prospects they had signed on to their teams and nothing more.
The players don't take it serious and just mess about on court just as it was back in the days on the street ball summers they had growing up.
It is worse than Pre-season matches from a betting perspective.
But it is basketball and for those who need their fix for this league now til the NBA season starts up again.

I could bet on the total but not on a team to win. The staregy here is very simple, not sure if it's a winning strategy but I have a feeling that most of the time the overe will hit since it does look like an exhibition games, so there will be less defense will result to higher points production. The same strategy I'm using during the preseason as well.

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Lakers management especially Pelinka seems not really good to handle their team and it seems he always commit bad decision which Lakers would suffer at the end.

Yeah, I don't know what Pelinka is still with the Lakers though, after winning a ring, all his decisions, including coaches are all failure and I don't understand why Jeannie Buss still keeps him. They should have fired him after the season that they won their championship. And now, they will have to chase to stay abreast with the Boston Celtics, as they won their 18 championship as compare to the Lakers which stands at 17.

The thing is they always blame their issues to their coach or to other people, while the fact is their management already been fuck up. If Pelinka will be fired out on his position due to his carelessness also wrong judgement of a lot of things in their organization then provably they can get their 18th championship. Boston now is ahead of 1 championship with them and I guess it will be so hard for Lakers to win a championship next season especially that they didn't made a good move on free agency plus the players they get from draft is not so really good especially Bronny. Lakers is just pure entertainment team and for sure they will be in talks because of controversy and circus happening on their team.

That's how it is, they will always have to put the blame on the coach, and that' why we said that their job tenure is not safe even if they have been awarded by a good contract, they can still be terminated but not the President or Vice President for Operations, they are untouchable unless it's the owner that will decide that they will have to find a new one and fire them but it will cost them a lot of money.

No offense to Bronny, but it seems that it's nepotism that really prevail that's they Rob Pelinka pick him at 55th. If not for Lebron's influence, his son will not be pick up any any team in the NBA in my opinion. So the Lakers will have to lose in the trade again as they didn't pick up good players to bolster their lineup.

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Lakers management especially Pelinka seems not really good to handle their team and it seems he always commit bad decision which Lakers would suffer at the end.

Yeah, I don't know what Pelinka is still with the Lakers though, after winning a ring, all his decisions, including coaches are all failure and I don't understand why Jeannie Buss still keeps him. They should have fired him after the season that they won their championship. And now, they will have to chase to stay abreast with the Boston Celtics, as they won their 18 championship as compare to the Lakers which stands at 17.

The thing is they always blame their issues to their coach or to other people, while the fact is their management already been fuck up. If Pelinka will be fired out on his position due to his carelessness also wrong judgement of a lot of things in their organization then provably they can get their 18th championship. Boston now is ahead of 1 championship with them and I guess it will be so hard for Lakers to win a championship next season especially that they didn't made a good move on free agency plus the players they get from draft is not so really good especially Bronny. Lakers is just pure entertainment team and for sure they will be in talks because of controversy and circus happening on their team.

I do agree, he has been firing coach after coach and yet the way he builds his team? Is lacking. Now, DeRozan is with the Kings and Buddy Hield a shooter that they want, is with the Warriors, and then they left go of Klay as well? And what they got? Bronnie James? Lol. So how long will the Lakers need to suffer and allow Rob Pelinka to lead them to another disaster year?

As for the Summer League, no I'm not going to bet or even watch the games, might be better to see the FIBA Olympics qualifiers over the NBA for now.

They didn't get impressive addition this free agency and its like they are just hyping up their crowd to make it look likes they still do better. But in reality they didn't get much great acquisitions and what they currently do is pure entertainment.

Look how Bronny perform on his past summer league performance he didn't end up well. So I guess Lakers already have a short glimpse of possible what performance he can provide to them. I guess Lakers just hire professional cheer leader in their bench and it seems that they will end up in bad place again this season. Hopefully there would be a better adjustment and improvements since its still good to see Lebron on Playoffs.

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