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November 23, 2021, 10:06:36 PM
The Lakers are just on another dimension today, they are missing terribly in this 4th quarter no threes have been sinking except the last one from Davis. They could have won this game if they have just taken it easy instead of raining low percentage threes that cost them to lose possession every time. they lose this game because the problem is they don't usually compete inside they just throw outside which is not currently working at all. They've just lost without LBJ, either way, the result would be the same when they play this kind of game.

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November 23, 2021, 09:51:06 PM

Looking at the odds, they are not the favourite to win this game against the Knicks, maybe because Lebron is out again.

And the games is on MSG so I guess the Knicks are going to take this W. It might be very close though as the Lakers still have Davis, Russ and Melo. Hopefully though, coach Vogel will give more minutes in the rotation for Dwight as he has been playing very well offensively and defensively in the last couple of games even hitting 3's and making a lot of block shots.
The Lakers have some problems both offensively and defensively from the very beginning of the match, considering that they conceded 10 points in the first two minutes. So it should be an easy win for the Knicks, especially since they are already leading by 20 points in the second quarter.




They made a valiant effort to comeback but it looks like they’re out of gas now that they’re back to being down by 10. It’s a little bit sad to see so many hall of gamers struggle to get wins during regular season games. I don’t know if he rest of the league is targeting them for being a super team or if they’re really this bad, but it’s hard to watch at times.
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November 23, 2021, 08:27:12 PM

Looking at the odds, they are not the favourite to win this game against the Knicks, maybe because Lebron is out again.

And the games is on MSG so I guess the Knicks are going to take this W. It might be very close though as the Lakers still have Davis, Russ and Melo. Hopefully though, coach Vogel will give more minutes in the rotation for Dwight as he has been playing very well offensively and defensively in the last couple of games even hitting 3's and making a lot of block shots.
The Lakers have some problems both offensively and defensively from the very beginning of the match, considering that they conceded 10 points in the first two minutes. So it should be an easy win for the Knicks, especially since they are already leading by 20 points in the second quarter.


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November 23, 2021, 08:06:45 PM
I do agree that Lebron is not a dirty player. And in this situation, it seems that he didn't intentionally try to throw that elbow on Stewart. They are all jockeying for position and no one want's to give up and perhaps James is trying to regain control and accidentally throw the elbow to Stewart face. And as per report, he will be suspended one game without pay.

I guess some times intention doesn't matter in cases like this, James isn't and has never been dirty player (this being his first suspension and 2nd ejected over the course of his illustrious career would also corroborate that fact)  It was pretty obvious that James was trying to apologize immediately even before Stewart stood up perhaps knowing the impact that the fist could have made, but the damage has been done already intentional or not. I'm sure Stewart would reflect on the replay seeing that James was sorry instantly and probably didn't mean for it to happen.

Yes, that's what I'm trying to say as well, and not defending Lebron, but his numbers as far as suspension and ejection will tell us that he is not a dirty player. He may be a 'flopper' though, but that is very different than a player who wanted to hurt or retaliate.

In any case, the league will really have to take control of these players, as we all know we just had the Jokic-Morris incident and now this one.
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November 23, 2021, 05:35:05 PM
I think these dirty style plays from LeBron are going to become more and more common as his aging lowers his play level to be below some of the young guys in the league. I don’t he’s going to have an easy time adjusting to him not being the most dominant player on the court.


Guys, LeBron has only been ejected 2 times only, all the other dirty plays he did were either mild or he simply got away, I'm not a LeBron fan but he's not a dirty player
You are missing the point Dupee. He wasn't a dirty player when he was younger since he can dominate the game with his skills and superior athleticism. He may as well resort to using tricks and some dirty plays to outmaneuver his opponents as his body deteriorates due to age. He won't be able to outrun or outjump younger guys now.

Well, he's 36, he is past his prime but I'm pretty sure with the situation that elevated yesterday or perhaps the other day, the situation wasn't really that relevant to what you were saying, it's not a trick nor a dirty play,
The point I'm making is more on the future and not just limited to the incident. Og also pointed out that we could see dirty style or "out of frustration" play as say it happening more often.

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Isaiah Stewart is not a key player for Detroit, only averages on what is expected for a rookie/sophomore so I don't see the need for LeBron to actually get rid of this kid in the game,
Irrelevant. It doesn't really matter if the guy is a superstar or average as long as he's playing on the court.

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I am assuming that it's more of a frustration rather than a dirty play, you can see how irritated LeBron was when he elbowed Stewart, therefore, LeBron won't resort to that kind of violence as he didn't mean it and was a heat of the moment for both,
The same thing as what I said above. These "heat of the moment" could happen more often.
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November 23, 2021, 04:30:08 PM
No LeBron tonight for the Lakers vs the Knicks. A shame because the game is nationally televised on TNT. I’m not sure the Lakers need him to win this game, especially after playing so many games without him lately, so hopefully they get a W and make it an interesting game. Seems like a pretty weak TV schedule for TNT’s game night this week…

Looking at the odds, they are not the favourite to win this game against the Knicks, maybe because Lebron is out again.

And the games is on MSG so I guess the Knicks are going to take this W. It might be very close though as the Lakers still have Davis, Russ and Melo. Hopefully though, coach Vogel will give more minutes in the rotation for Dwight as he has been playing very well offensively and defensively in the last couple of games even hitting 3's and making a lot of block shots.

I think AD is day to day as well.  Normally I would agree but the Knicks haven't been good at home.  I've watched every knick game this year and if AD is playing he is a matchup nightmare for the Knicks.  Mitch is out for the Knicks who is our rim protector and Noel can't play the whe game.  Taj is hurting and is very undersized to cover AD anyway.  Thibs is going to have to get creative here tonight.
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November 23, 2021, 04:22:32 PM
No LeBron tonight for the Lakers vs the Knicks. A shame because the game is nationally televised on TNT. I’m not sure the Lakers need him to win this game, especially after playing so many games without him lately, so hopefully they get a W and make it an interesting game. Seems like a pretty weak TV schedule for TNT’s game night this week…

Looking at the odds, they are not the favourite to win this game against the Knicks, maybe because Lebron is out again.

And the games is on MSG so I guess the Knicks are going to take this W. It might be very close though as the Lakers still have Davis, Russ and Melo. Hopefully though, coach Vogel will give more minutes in the rotation for Dwight as he has been playing very well offensively and defensively in the last couple of games even hitting 3's and making a lot of block shots.
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November 23, 2021, 04:09:26 PM
I still think that Lebron is sneakly dirty player and have always been like that, it is not a new thing and the smarter he gets with age the sneakier his dirty plays become. When you check how many uncalled fouls a player has I bet you that Lebron would come out as the first one.

However, the discussion was about how he is no longer "lebron" lebron, like he is not some larger than life big player who changes the narrative wherever he goes and so forth. He already won one with Lakers and if he never wins with them ever again then I would say he still managed to do something decent, he has 2 with Miami, he has one with Cavs which I am sure is the most important one for him and he has one with Lakers now, wherever he went, he got a ring and that is all that matters. Nevertheless I do not think that he is as bad as people imagine him to be, he is not at his best peak level of course but he is not "bad" neither, definitely still one of the best, but maybe not THE best anymore.
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November 23, 2021, 03:20:31 PM
No LeBron tonight for the Lakers vs the Knicks. A shame because the game is nationally televised on TNT. I’m not sure the Lakers need him to win this game, especially after playing so many games without him lately, so hopefully they get a W and make it an interesting game. Seems like a pretty weak TV schedule for TNT’s game night this week…
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November 23, 2021, 12:24:10 PM
The Brooklyn Nets haw won their game today and that will make them gain the number one seed in the eastern conference right now without Uncle Drew. looks like everything is easy for them when they work together as a team with James Harden and the others.

I wouldn't say that it is "easy".

It's a very small sample size to be saying that they don't need Kyrie, and the absence of Kyrie is almost certainly going to come back to haunt them later on during the playoffs.

The Bulls are right there with them in the East as well.
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November 23, 2021, 09:58:23 AM
The Brooklyn Nets haw won their game today and that will make them gain the number one seed in the eastern conference right now without Uncle Drew. looks like everything is easy for them when they work together as a team with James Harden and the others.
Actually I was able to watch 3/4 of the match, unfortunately, I have to go to a lab to take some test.

But it was a very tough game for the Nets, they didn't cover the spread but enough for them to get a win. The Cavs was leading most of the way and I thought that they are going to pull an upset. But then again, the Nets have Durant, so they were able to come back take the lead and it was a back and forth game. I like James Johnson attitude in the game here, he only scored 9 points, but it was very crucial points.
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November 23, 2021, 07:42:39 AM
I can't believe that Lebron was only suspended from one game while Isaiah Stewart has 2 games suspension.

I think the judgment is not fair, Lebron really is a superstar and the NBA really likes him.
However, the amount he loses is very huge because one-game suspension is equivalent to  $284.004 not being paid for him.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/lebron-james-suspended-one-game-isaiah-stewart-suspended-two-games-for-roles-in-lakers-pistons-brawl/

Isiah Stewart cause a commotion that will interrupt the game after he received that elbow. If he is professional, He should atleast let the officials review it first and decide the punishment but since the one who elbow him is a famous basketball player, He thinks that his dignity was being stepped that's why his natural instinct is to confront and revenge physically. I don't if the elbow is intentional but as a professional player, You should behave accordingly without any feelings involve. I know how hard it is but I agree to the decision that he should receive more penalty because he is the one insisting to brawl while LeBron is reaching to him at the beginning. He is the one showing more aggressiveness while the other party is passive so that is fair since LeBron got suspended too.

His action was brought by his emotion, we have to understand him because he is still new in the NBA and maybe he wasn't expecting that a player that we called "The King" will do that to him. I mean, he respect Lebron and did not expect he would do some dirty play.
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November 23, 2021, 07:30:10 AM
They used a track record to decide and Lebron is clean and Stewart is not. Wow. Like he is the one who hit his face to Lebron's elbow.

HAHA Lebron hater spotted! Don't apply that testosterone stuffs there. Stewart's rampage shows some disrespect to the officials and staff who stopped him even the situation already escalated. Why does he still need to make a 2nd attack and run to Lebron? That's not necessary. Lebron's already close to him while apologizing, he should slap Lebron during that time. When others are now stopping him, that's the time he rampaged. HAHA. Stewart should thank Lebron as he's now popular haha. I didn't know that player until that incident haha. Play jackstone if he doesn't want to experience unexpected physical contact.
Nah it's not like that. It's when he tasted his blood that's why he went on a rampage afterward. I am not a Lebron hater and I actually love his punctuality in the game and pure hard work. But this is a different one. There should be equality when putting suspension on players. The weight of what he does is a heavy one and it's in the head. Have you ever thought of what if Stewart never wakes up after that hit?
Why 1 suspension for Lebron and 2 for Stewart? Who was the one hurting/bleeding? What will Stewart feel about this? What will the fans think about the NBA?

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Provide proof that NBA used a track record to decide for the suspension. If you can't provide it you are just posting lies here. I've repeated, Stewart's rampage shows some disrespect to the officials and staff who stopped him even the situation already escalated. The officials are now reviewing the play and he still runs to attack Lebron on the other side of the court. Explain where's the unfair part of the suspension. Do you think it's right to act that way just because his testosterone triggered it? Lebron is just calm and does not want to fight back. Different from other altercations that happened for some players before that is more intentional and dirty. Stewart should just punch Lebron when the latter apologizes. He waits to be stopped before acting tough lmao. What if he gets physical contact again in the future. He should play jackstone haha.

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November 23, 2021, 07:14:22 AM
I can't believe that Lebron was only suspended from one game while Isaiah Stewart has 2 games suspension.

I think the judgment is not fair, Lebron really is a superstar and the NBA really likes him.
However, the amount he loses is very huge because one-game suspension is equivalent to  $284.004 not being paid for him.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/lebron-james-suspended-one-game-isaiah-stewart-suspended-two-games-for-roles-in-lakers-pistons-brawl/

Isiah Stewart cause a commotion that will interrupt the game after he received that elbow. If he is professional, He should atleast let the officials review it first and decide the punishment but since the one who elbow him is a famous basketball player, He thinks that his dignity was being stepped that's why his natural instinct is to confront and revenge physically. I don't if the elbow is intentional but as a professional player, You should behave accordingly without any feelings involve. I know how hard it is but I agree to the decision that he should receive more penalty because he is the one insisting to brawl while LeBron is reaching to him at the beginning. He is the one showing more aggressiveness while the other party is passive so that is fair since LeBron got suspended too.
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November 23, 2021, 07:00:24 AM
Okay, so enough for Lebron, let's take about the Memphis vs Jazz game.

That game was really intense, Memphis was always behind and they keep trying to close and that last shot by Jackson Jr. in the 3 point line made them win. What do you think is the problem with the Jazz here, they seem to struggle against a good team even if they are highly favored to win, and Memphis is not even complete. 

That shot was revenge for their loss in the playoffs.  Smiley
I think it was just one of those games in the long run of the regular season, just cannot finish strong in every game. Ja Morant was a beast again, 32 points in 37 minutes. I do believe he has the potential to be a future MVP. Let's see what kind of performance they will show in the playoffs

Dillon Brooks was not even playing, how much more if he will come back and play. Memphis defense and Offense will improve for sure.

Hopefully, we will see him soon as Memphis needs to climb and compete with the ranking.
Brooks was announced out against the Jazz (https://www.cbssports.com/nba/players/2157680/dillon-brooks/).
Let's see if he will be available next game.
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November 23, 2021, 06:50:20 AM
Okay, so enough for Lebron, let's take about the Memphis vs Jazz game.

That game was really intense, Memphis was always behind and they keep trying to close and that last shot by Jackson Jr. in the 3 point line made them win. What do you think is the problem with the Jazz here, they seem to struggle against a good team even if they are highly favored to win, and Memphis is not even complete. 

That shot was revenge for their loss in the playoffs.  Smiley
I think it was just one of those games in the long run of the regular season, just cannot finish strong in every game. Ja Morant was a beast again, 32 points in 37 minutes. I do believe he has the potential to be a future MVP. Let's see what kind of performance they will show in the playoffs
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November 23, 2021, 06:41:37 AM
Okay, so enough for Lebron, let's take about the Memphis vs Jazz game.

That game was really intense, Memphis was always behind and they keep trying to close and that last shot by Jackson Jr. in the 3 point line made them win. What do you think is the problem with the Jazz here, they seem to struggle against a good team even if they are highly favored to win, and Memphis is not even complete. 

That shot was revenge for their loss in the playoffs.  Smiley
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November 23, 2021, 06:22:42 AM
They used a track record to decide and Lebron is clean and Stewart is not. Wow. Like he is the one who hit his face to Lebron's elbow.

HAHA Lebron hater spotted! Don't apply that testosterone stuffs there. Stewart's rampage shows some disrespect to the officials and staff who stopped him even the situation already escalated. Why does he still need to make a 2nd attack and run to Lebron? That's not necessary. Lebron's already close to him while apologizing, he should slap Lebron during that time. When others are now stopping him, that's the time he rampaged. HAHA. Stewart should thank Lebron as he's now popular haha. I didn't know that player until that incident haha. Play jackstone if he doesn't want to experience unexpected physical contact.
Nah it's not like that. It's when he tasted his blood that's why he went on a rampage afterward. I am not a Lebron hater and I actually love his punctuality in the game and pure hard work. But this is a different one. There should be equality when putting suspension on players. The weight of what he does is a heavy one and it's in the head. Have you ever thought of what if Stewart never wakes up after that hit?
Why 1 suspension for Lebron and 2 for Stewart? Who was the one hurting/bleeding? What will Stewart feel about this? What will the fans think about the NBA?

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November 23, 2021, 06:15:26 AM
I can't believe that Lebron was only suspended from one game while Isaiah Stewart has 2 games suspension.

I think the judgment is not fair, Lebron really is a superstar and the NBA really likes him.
However, the amount he loses is very huge because one-game suspension is equivalent to  $284.004 not being paid for him.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/lebron-james-suspended-one-game-isaiah-stewart-suspended-two-games-for-roles-in-lakers-pistons-brawl/
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November 23, 2021, 03:33:00 AM
I do agree that Lebron is not a dirty player. And in this situation, it seems that he didn't intentionally try to throw that elbow on Stewart. They are all jockeying for position and no one want's to give up and perhaps James is trying to regain control and accidentally throw the elbow to Stewart face. And as per report, he will be suspended one game without pay.
I also agree with that but 2 games suspension for Isaiah Stewart? What is that supposed to mean? Analysts telling it should be like that to teach them a lesson not to overreact? These guys need to be punched in the face and let's see if they will react to it or not? It's a human thing and these men have high testosterone that will react quickly.
Lebron didn't intentionally hurt him but obviously, that is above the shoulder which is illegal and how he pulled his arm is different, there is a force in it like a +1.
They used a track record to decide and Lebron is clean and Stewart is not. Wow. Like he is the one who hit his face to Lebron's elbow.
I might agree with what you said that men have high testosterone that will react quickly but they are in probably the biggest professional basketball league in the world. As a player, you should act professionally and not like that. Whether its intentional or not, the fact that he is like a raging bull out there where no one can stop him is for me a wrong thing to do. We saw Lebron apologizing and he should accept it because its unintentional like many are saying but to act like you are just playing in the streets? I don't think that is the attitude of a professional player.

Maybe if only Stewart didn't act that way then he shouldn't be suspended for 2 games without pay or at least he will not get suspended and only Lebron will. I'm not a hater or fan of Lebron or anything but for me, I think that the punishment for both Stewart and James are just right.
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