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Quote from: agustina2 on November 24, 2021, 09:34:51 AM

Quote from: Botnake on November 24, 2021, 08:37:37 AM

As the Lakers struggle will continue, we can't prevent people from saying their dismay because they have a high expectation on the LA Lakers. I mean, who would not expect a lot, they build a super team with popular names in the NBA, but look what they are showing, they can even hardly beat lower rank teams.

Let's clarify something. Do you think they are a super team before the NBA starts? Only a few considered them as super-team but most people think they are just a bunch of veterans and already past their prime. Carmelo Anthony is almost on retirement when no team is signing him. Just lucky to be signed in Portland. Westbrook is now changing teams since being traded from OKC. Dwight Howard is not performing well for several years now. The only consistent and still on prime is Anthony Davis. Lebron James is turning 37 years old.

How Lakers become a super team this season?

They have been criticized before, not even the team starts this season.

I was waiting for something special from LeBron, after acquiring Melo and Russ and with a healthy Davis, this team still capable of competing.
There's something wrong inside, coach need to figure it out to find ways and adjust.

With the way this team is performing, they are just proving what their critics said after forming this roster.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on November 24, 2021, 04:30:32 AM

Maybe the system itself is flawed and the Lakers need to adjust. So let's see once Lebron is back, hopefully they can start to put up a winning streak just to take things going for them.

I have watched the game and I have to say that Lakers crumble way too easily, they had a bad first quarter and I get that they could have give up at that point, but they didn't and they kept on playing and that was something good for them, good job coming back and tying the game and all that. However as soon as Knicks started to play well again, they started to be horrible yet again. This is why I believe that there is something going on with the hype in that team.

It is like they are not aware they are NBA players, do you know how amazing you have to be at playing basketball if you are in NBA? Those players are AMAZING and they are playing with confidence that you and I would have, they need to realize they are good.

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Quote from: agustina2 on November 24, 2021, 09:34:51 AM

Quote from: Botnake on November 24, 2021, 08:37:37 AM

As the Lakers struggle will continue, we can't prevent people from saying their dismay because they have a high expectation on the LA Lakers. I mean, who would not expect a lot, they build a super team with popular names in the NBA, but look what they are showing, they can even hardly beat lower rank teams.

Let's clarify something. Do you think they are a super team before the NBA starts? Only a few considered them as super-team but most people think they are just a bunch of veterans and already past their prime. Carmelo Anthony is almost on retirement when no team is signing him. Just lucky to be signed in Portland. Westbrook is now changing teams since being traded from OKC. Dwight Howard is not performing well for several years now. The only consistent and still on prime is Anthony Davis. Lebron James is turning 37 years old.

How Lakers become a super team this season?

They are certainly NOT a super team. To be a super team the players have to be super stars and younger/healthy. Westbrook and Carmelo are no longer the players they were, especially Carmelo. Lebron is still a super star but on the tail end of his career. Anthony Davis is a superstar but he can never stay healthy to save his life. They are a good squad, but I'll take the Nets and Warriors over them.

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Quote from: Botnake on November 24, 2021, 08:37:37 AM

As the Lakers struggle will continue, we can't prevent people from saying their dismay because they have a high expectation on the LA Lakers. I mean, who would not expect a lot, they build a super team with popular names in the NBA, but look what they are showing, they can even hardly beat lower rank teams.

Let's clarify something. Do you think they are a super team before the NBA starts? Only a few considered them as super-team but most people think they are just a bunch of veterans and already past their prime. Carmelo Anthony is almost on retirement when no team is signing him. Just lucky to be signed in Portland. Westbrook is now changing teams since being traded from OKC. Dwight Howard is not performing well for several years now. The only consistent and still on prime is Anthony Davis. Lebron James is turning 37 years old.

How Lakers become a super team this season?

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Quote from: Oasisman on November 24, 2021, 03:12:19 AM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on November 24, 2021, 12:31:29 AM

What do you think is the problem why the Lakers are struggling right now? The Coach maybe? or lack of chemistry or the fact that most of them are all star and they want to get the ball and just shoot Cheesy

. Either way, I think that the Lakers should adjust right now or they will end up at the lower spot or worse they might not enter the playoffs.

Westbrook isn't the problem (like everyone is complaining about) having almost everyone in the team a superstar and a former one isn't also the issue. They could actually execute a good offensive plays and they can even score in every way they want. Their number one problem is, they are not actually playing some defense.
They can't even sustain a lead no matter how huge it is, because the higher the lead the more the Lakers became comfortable thus making their defense become more lazy.

If they can't figure out how they'll adjust and fix their system, theres no way they're going to the Finals let alone the conference semis.

I put it in bold to just highlight it, bro. Because I strongly agree with it.
When Avery Bradley put a lot of effort into the defensive end the fruits were seen. They almost had the lead but again they are being lazy at the end of it or... there is no chemistry on that side. Making a perfect defensive play is not something that could be done in a snap and we could compare it with GSW on how far the difference is.

Lakers can rain down shots with their individual strength in the offense just like what Westbrook did but they cannot successfully make a stop if they are not in sync with their defense. There will always be a hole if someone forgets where he should be when a screen and roll comes.
That's their only weakness in my opinion. It's not the coach or the players but because they lack time to play with each other.

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As the Lakers struggle will continue, we can't prevent people from saying their dismay because they have a high expectation on the LA Lakers. I mean, who would not expect a lot, they build a super team with popular names in the NBA, but look what they are showing, they can even hardly beat lower rank teams.

Anyway, Lebron might be back against the Pacers after one game of the suspension, so they have a good chance of winning now since they really need to start winning again. No excuses because they are complete now.

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Quote from: Natalim on November 24, 2021, 06:19:08 AM

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on November 24, 2021, 05:04:51 AM

I read some articles that DeRozan is already ranked at number 3.

The ranking was

1. Curry,
2. Durant
3. DeRozan

What do you think about this, is it reliable based on the stats of DeRozan and the impact on the team?
I like to get your thoughts on this as I would try to put a bet on DeRozan to win.

You happen to bookmarked the article? I think there are explanations regarding how the writer manage to rank him in the third. I wonder how DeRozan ended on that mark though since I can't see his name from this stats on https://www.nba.com/stats/players/. I guess if it's on the impact of the game to his team, I partly agree on that. What do you mean to win? MVP race? I think there are still plenty of time for him to show it off.

The article below dated November 19, 2021 9:21 PM, shows the following ranking.

https://www.nba.com/news/kia-mvp-ladder-stephen-curry-rises-to-top-as-others-take-flight
1. Stephen Curry, Golden State Warriors
2. Kevin Durant, Brooklyn Nets
3. Nikola Jokic, Denver Nuggets
4. DeMar DeRozan, Chicago Bulls

Maybe because Jokic has been out for few games, his spot was already taken by DeRozan, and I agree with the ranking.

No doubt with DeRozans numbers, he's improving and enjoying his new team. The same old numbers way back with the Raptors.

If only LeBron is not in the East back, then this guy might win the East title, a possible contender for being an MVP.

Still, a lot of time if he will continue performing and those stars above him got an injury, the chance is really good for him to take it away from

them. After next year, for sure we will see who's really edging and have the higher chance of winning the season MVP.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on November 24, 2021, 07:31:36 AM

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Quote from: Jating on November 24, 2021, 03:33:22 AM

Quote from: Oasisman on November 24, 2021, 03:12:19 AM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on November 24, 2021, 12:31:29 AM

What do you think is the problem why the Lakers are struggling right now? The Coach maybe? or lack of chemistry or the fact that most of them are all star and they want to get the ball and just shoot Cheesy

. Either way, I think that the Lakers should adjust right now or they will end up at the lower spot or worse they might not enter the playoffs.

Westbrook isn't the problem (like everyone is complaining about) having almost everyone in the team a superstar and a former one isn't also the issue. They could actually execute a good offensive plays and they can even score in every way they want. Their number one problem is, they are not actually playing some defense.
They can't even sustain a lead no matter how huge it is, because the higher the lead the more the Lakers became comfortable thus making their defense become more lazy.

If they can't figure out how they'll adjust and fix their system, theres no way they're going to the Finals let alone the conference semis.

Still finding the chemistry, I think that is no mystery that with many superstars the coach will have a hard time rotating them. I disagree though, they play good defense, AD and WB play good defense it's that they can't translate their good defense and score points.

But I do agree that the chances for the Lakers to go to the semis much more to the finals is getting less and less with that defeat against the New York Knicks.

The problem is the whole system, they traded the key players and they risk on Westbrook who can't jive well on the old players. We can't blame Westbrook as he is just playing the way he used to play, and the Lakers organization already know that before they acquired him, so that's the risk they take and they fail on this trade.

The old Laker players that are involved in the Lakers-Wizards trade are now happy with the new system. We know what the Wizards are doing right now and we already saw the improvement of Kuzma, Harrell and KCP and how they are playing on their team right now. Same with Caruso with his new team, Bulls and with Schroder with the Celtics.

Many are blaming WB for what is happening to the team right now but I think that he isn't the sole reason why they are performing like this right now. I think that its the coaching system that is the problem because he can't handle that many superstars in a team. Well, that is the risk that they need to endure right now unless they will change something.

The Lakers organization should be blamed because they let the young players go and replace them with old players that are almost past their prime. They added Melo, Howard, and DJ which are already old, they may contribute but not the contribution that would make their team wins, that's why they are still struggling until now.

The Lakers will face the Pacers tomorrow, expect another loss.

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Quote from: Maslate on November 24, 2021, 04:23:43 AM

Quote from: Jating on November 24, 2021, 03:33:22 AM

Quote from: Oasisman on November 24, 2021, 03:12:19 AM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on November 24, 2021, 12:31:29 AM

What do you think is the problem why the Lakers are struggling right now? The Coach maybe? or lack of chemistry or the fact that most of them are all star and they want to get the ball and just shoot Cheesy

. Either way, I think that the Lakers should adjust right now or they will end up at the lower spot or worse they might not enter the playoffs.

Westbrook isn't the problem (like everyone is complaining about) having almost everyone in the team a superstar and a former one isn't also the issue. They could actually execute a good offensive plays and they can even score in every way they want. Their number one problem is, they are not actually playing some defense.
They can't even sustain a lead no matter how huge it is, because the higher the lead the more the Lakers became comfortable thus making their defense become more lazy.

If they can't figure out how they'll adjust and fix their system, theres no way they're going to the Finals let alone the conference semis.

Still finding the chemistry, I think that is no mystery that with many superstars the coach will have a hard time rotating them. I disagree though, they play good defense, AD and WB play good defense it's that they can't translate their good defense and score points.

But I do agree that the chances for the Lakers to go to the semis much more to the finals is getting less and less with that defeat against the New York Knicks.

The problem is the whole system, they traded the key players and they risk on Westbrook who can't jive well on the old players. We can't blame Westbrook as he is just playing the way he used to play, and the Lakers organization already know that before they acquired him, so that's the risk they take and they fail on this trade.

The old Laker players that are involved in the Lakers-Wizards trade are now happy with the new system. We know what the Wizards are doing right now and we already saw the improvement of Kuzma, Harrell and KCP and how they are playing on their team right now. Same with Caruso with his new team, Bulls and with Schroder with the Celtics.

Many are blaming WB for what is happening to the team right now but I think that he isn't the sole reason why they are performing like this right now. I think that its the coaching system that is the problem because he can't handle that many superstars in a team. Well, that is the risk that they need to endure right now unless they will change something.

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on November 24, 2021, 05:46:15 AM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on November 24, 2021, 05:04:51 AM

I read some articles that DeRozan is already ranked at number 3.

The ranking was

1. Curry,
2. Durant
3. DeRozan

What do you think about this, is it reliable based on the stats of DeRozan and the impact on the team?
I like to get your thoughts on this as I would try to put a bet on DeRozan to win.

You happen to bookmarked the article? I think there are explanations regarding how the writer manage to rank him in the third. I wonder how DeRozan ended on that mark though since I can't see his name from this stats on https://www.nba.com/stats/players/. I guess if it's on the impact of the game to his team, I partly agree on that. What do you mean to win? MVP race? I think there are still plenty of time for him to show it off.

The article below dated November 19, 2021 9:21 PM, shows the following ranking.

https://www.nba.com/news/kia-mvp-ladder-stephen-curry-rises-to-top-as-others-take-flight
1. Stephen Curry, Golden State Warriors
2. Kevin Durant, Brooklyn Nets
3. Nikola Jokic, Denver Nuggets
4. DeMar DeRozan, Chicago Bulls

Maybe because Jokic has been out for few games, his spot was already taken by DeRozan, and I agree with the ranking.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on November 24, 2021, 05:04:51 AM

I read some articles that DeRozan is already ranked at number 3.

The ranking was

1. Curry,
2. Durant
3. DeRozan

What do you think about this, is it reliable based on the stats of DeRozan and the impact on the team?
I like to get your thoughts on this as I would try to put a bet on DeRozan to win.

You happen to bookmarked the article? I think there are explanations regarding how the writer manage to rank him in the third. I wonder how DeRozan ended on that mark though since I can't see his name from this stats on https://www.nba.com/stats/players/. I guess if it's on the impact of the game to his team, I partly agree on that. What do you mean to win? MVP race? I think there are still plenty of time for him to show it off.

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I read some articles that DeRozan is already ranked at number 3.

The ranking was

1. Curry,
2. Durant
3. DeRozan

What do you think about this, is it reliable based on the stats of DeRozan and the impact on the team?
I like to get your thoughts on this as I would try to put a bet on DeRozan to win.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on November 24, 2021, 03:26:16 AM

Quote from: Oasisman on November 24, 2021, 03:12:19 AM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on November 24, 2021, 12:31:29 AM

What do you think is the problem why the Lakers are struggling right now? The Coach maybe? or lack of chemistry or the fact that most of them are all star and they want to get the ball and just shoot Cheesy

. Either way, I think that the Lakers should adjust right now or they will end up at the lower spot or worse they might not enter the playoffs.

Westbrook isn't the problem (like everyone is complaining about) having almost everyone in the team a superstar and a former one isn't also the issue. They could actually execute a good offensive plays and they can even score in every way they want. Their number one problem is, they are not actually playing some defense.
They can't even sustain a lead no matter how huge it is, because the higher the lead the more the Lakers became comfortable thus making their defense become more lazy.

If they can't figure out how they'll adjust and fix their system, theres no way they're going to the Finals let alone the conference semis.

On one hand, I think it is a mindset problem. On the other hand, you sometimes have people on the court that are “counter productive” especially when it comes to playing defense. This year it’s Deaundre Jordan as it was Gasol last year. These players put to much stress on the defense requiring players to have to hustle to hard trying to chase guys off the 3pt line and protect the paint. Westbrook can also be very counter productive when he’s constantly taking bad shots early in the play clock and turning the ball over with wild passes. I think they playing A.Reaves to much already but we don’t have much depth and Doumbouya definitely needs playing time. I also hate that we never got a true replacement PF/C to fill that roll that Markieff Morris would sometimes play

Hmm, but Gasol didn't play that much in the Lakers uniform last year so we can't compare his performance with DJ. And as far as DJ, I think he is doing good specially Dwight Howard. So the Lakers looks solid in the middle and they also have AD to play the center position if the other teams chooses to play small on them. Maybe the system itself is flawed and the Lakers need to adjust. So let's see once Lebron is back, hopefully they can start to put up a winning streak just to take things going for them.

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Quote from: Jating on November 24, 2021, 03:33:22 AM

Quote from: Oasisman on November 24, 2021, 03:12:19 AM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on November 24, 2021, 12:31:29 AM

What do you think is the problem why the Lakers are struggling right now? The Coach maybe? or lack of chemistry or the fact that most of them are all star and they want to get the ball and just shoot Cheesy

. Either way, I think that the Lakers should adjust right now or they will end up at the lower spot or worse they might not enter the playoffs.

Westbrook isn't the problem (like everyone is complaining about) having almost everyone in the team a superstar and a former one isn't also the issue. They could actually execute a good offensive plays and they can even score in every way they want. Their number one problem is, they are not actually playing some defense.
They can't even sustain a lead no matter how huge it is, because the higher the lead the more the Lakers became comfortable thus making their defense become more lazy.

If they can't figure out how they'll adjust and fix their system, theres no way they're going to the Finals let alone the conference semis.

Still finding the chemistry, I think that is no mystery that with many superstars the coach will have a hard time rotating them. I disagree though, they play good defense, AD and WB play good defense it's that they can't translate their good defense and score points.

But I do agree that the chances for the Lakers to go to the semis much more to the finals is getting less and less with that defeat against the New York Knicks.

The problem is the whole system, they traded the key players and they risk on Westbrook who can't jive well on the old players. We can't blame Westbrook as he is just playing the way he used to play, and the Lakers organization already know that before they acquired him, so that's the risk they take and they fail on this trade.

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Quote from: Oasisman on November 24, 2021, 03:12:19 AM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on November 24, 2021, 12:31:29 AM

What do you think is the problem why the Lakers are struggling right now? The Coach maybe? or lack of chemistry or the fact that most of them are all star and they want to get the ball and just shoot Cheesy

. Either way, I think that the Lakers should adjust right now or they will end up at the lower spot or worse they might not enter the playoffs.

Westbrook isn't the problem (like everyone is complaining about) having almost everyone in the team a superstar and a former one isn't also the issue. They could actually execute a good offensive plays and they can even score in every way they want. Their number one problem is, they are not actually playing some defense.
They can't even sustain a lead no matter how huge it is, because the higher the lead the more the Lakers became comfortable thus making their defense become more lazy.

If they can't figure out how they'll adjust and fix their system, theres no way they're going to the Finals let alone the conference semis.

Still finding the chemistry, I think that is no mystery that with many superstars the coach will have a hard time rotating them. I disagree though, they play good defense, AD and WB play good defense it's that they can't translate their good defense and score points.

But I do agree that the chances for the Lakers to go to the semis much more to the finals is getting less and less with that defeat against the New York Knicks.

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Quote from: Oasisman on November 24, 2021, 03:12:19 AM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on November 24, 2021, 12:31:29 AM

What do you think is the problem why the Lakers are struggling right now? The Coach maybe? or lack of chemistry or the fact that most of them are all star and they want to get the ball and just shoot Cheesy

. Either way, I think that the Lakers should adjust right now or they will end up at the lower spot or worse they might not enter the playoffs.

Westbrook isn't the problem (like everyone is complaining about) having almost everyone in the team a superstar and a former one isn't also the issue. They could actually execute a good offensive plays and they can even score in every way they want. Their number one problem is, they are not actually playing some defense.
They can't even sustain a lead no matter how huge it is, because the higher the lead the more the Lakers became comfortable thus making their defense become more lazy.

If they can't figure out how they'll adjust and fix their system, theres no way they're going to the Finals let alone the conference semis.

On one hand, I think it is a mindset problem. On the other hand, you sometimes have people on the court that are “counter productive” especially when it comes to playing defense. This year it’s Deaundre Jordan as it was Gasol last year. These players put to much stress on the defense requiring players to have to hustle to hard trying to chase guys off the 3pt line and protect the paint. Westbrook can also be very counter productive when he’s constantly taking bad shots early in the play clock and turning the ball over with wild passes. I think they playing A.Reaves to much already but we don’t have much depth and Doumbouya definitely needs playing time. I also hate that we never got a true replacement PF/C to fill that roll that Markieff Morris would sometimes play

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on November 24, 2021, 12:31:29 AM

What do you think is the problem why the Lakers are struggling right now? The Coach maybe? or lack of chemistry or the fact that most of them are all star and they want to get the ball and just shoot Cheesy

. Either way, I think that the Lakers should adjust right now or they will end up at the lower spot or worse they might not enter the playoffs.

Westbrook isn't the problem (like everyone is complaining about) having almost everyone in the team a superstar and a former one isn't also the issue. They could actually execute a good offensive plays and they can even score in every way they want. Their number one problem is, they are not actually playing some defense.
They can't even sustain a lead no matter how huge it is, because the higher the lead the more the Lakers became comfortable thus making their defense become more lazy.

If they can't figure out how they'll adjust and fix their system, theres no way they're going to the Finals let alone the conference semis.

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Quote from: OgNasty on November 23, 2021, 09:51:06 PM

They made a valiant effort to comeback but it looks like they’re out of gas now that they’re back to being down by 10. It’s a little bit sad to see so many hall of gamers struggle to get wins during regular season games. I don’t know if he rest of the league is targeting them for being a super team or if they’re really this bad, but it’s hard to watch at times.

Russell Westbrook stepped on his gas at the 3rd quarter and even tied the game but it is the 4th that became different. With WB lacking the stamina after that boost, he needs another player to step up his game. AD did but Melo cannot find his rhythm. Was that 4 times 3 point attempts, iirc?
3 offensive rebounds, 4 misses until Coach Vogel had enough of it and called a timeout. I even saw him run at the half-court just so he could touch the referee and call it quickly. Grin

1st half though was all for Avery Bradley that's why they can hang with a close lead.

And it seems that they've ran out of gas chasing a huge lead. It was WB on the third who lead the way. Melo though hit his last 3 point to tie the count in the 4th quarter but that was it. Another that he has missed a lot of 3 point. THT has a horrendous shooting night as well. Randall got his 5th foul but the Lakers wasn't able to take advantage with 9 minutes left with a lot of bad shots. And it was just another bad performance from the Lakers.

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Quote from: OgNasty on November 23, 2021, 09:51:06 PM

They made a valiant effort to comeback but it looks like they’re out of gas now that they’re back to being down by 10. It’s a little bit sad to see so many hall of gamers struggle to get wins during regular season games. I don’t know if he rest of the league is targeting them for being a super team or if they’re really this bad, but it’s hard to watch at times.

Russell Westbrook stepped on his gas at the 3rd quarter and even tied the game but it is the 4th that became different. With WB lacking the stamina after that boost, he needs another player to step up his game. AD did but Melo cannot find his rhythm. Was that 4 times 3 point attempts, iirc?
3 offensive rebounds, 4 misses until Coach Vogel had enough of it and called a timeout. I even saw him run at the half-court just so he could touch the referee and call it quickly. Grin

1st half though was all for Avery Bradley that's why they can hang with a close lead.

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Quote from: yazher on November 23, 2021, 10:06:36 PM

The Lakers are just on another dimension today, they are missing terribly in this 4th quarter no threes have been sinking except the last one from Davis. They could have won this game if they have just taken it easy instead of raining low percentage threes that cost them to lose possession every time. they lose this game because the problem is they don't usually compete inside they just throw outside which is not currently working at all. They've just lost without LBJ, either way, the result would be the same when they play this kind of game.

I thought that the Knicks would lose this game after leading as high as 25 points in the 2nd quarter because they let the Lakers tie the game at the 3rd quarter.
Well, it seems like they ran out of steam coming into the 4th Quarter. Now they are below 500 again.

What do you think is the problem why the Lakers are struggling right now? The Coach maybe? or lack of chemistry or the fact that most of them are all star and they want to get the ball and just shoot Cheesy

. Either way, I think that the Lakers should adjust right now or they will end up at the lower spot or worse they might not enter the playoffs.

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