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legendary
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October 21, 2021, 10:27:24 PM
Milwaukee is down 20 points in the first quarter (score 5:26 ) and the coach took 1 timeout at 3:13 and 5 team fouls after 5 minutes. What terrible coaching is this?

Now with 3min to play they finally take another TO. I have almost never seen so bad coaching.
You see 1 (!!!) fiel goal in 9 minutes and you dont need to talk to your team???

In this match, only in the 1st half, Miami has made a 19:0 and a 7:0 run in the first quarter and a 14:0 run in the 2nd. No words.

Yeah coming off the net game, home game all that energy, this was never going to be an easy game especially versus the heat.  Was more amazed at atlamta tonight, Dallas looked like trash.  They really have no help for Luka, shame.  Cuban isn't doing them any favors fighting bitcoin maxis defending dogecoin all day.  Maybe he should spend more time worrying about how their depth absolutely sucks.
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October 21, 2021, 07:36:27 PM
Milwaukee is down 20 points in the first quarter (score 5:26 ) and the coach took 1 timeout at 3:13 and 5 team fouls after 5 minutes. What terrible coaching is this?

Now with 3min to play they finally take another TO. I have almost never seen so bad coaching.
You see 1 (!!!) fiel goal in 9 minutes and you dont need to talk to your team???

In this match, only in the 1st half, Miami has made a 19:0 and a 7:0 run in the first quarter and a 14:0 run in the 2nd. No words.
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October 21, 2021, 06:49:49 PM
I wonder who will they got if there's a trade happen, not gonna expect that Beal and Lillard catch.

Not seeing some trade involvement regarding these two. Bradley Beal is currently enjoying a good contract deal with the Washington Wizards and not part of any trading rumor even he admits that for every game, the opposing team always tries to recruit him.

As far as Lillard goes, it's no secret he's sick with the status of the RIP City and vocal about his possible trade in the future but he already committed to play with his original team this season.
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October 21, 2021, 06:38:01 PM
Daryl Morey said today that Sixers fans should strap in because they’re ready to take this Ben Simmons situation four years if they have to. They’re literally threatening to ruin Ben’s career. This is the most power heavy move I’ve seen from NBA ownership/management in as long as I can remember. They’re trying to shift the balance of power and so far they seem to be holding their ground… 4 years of Ben sitting… We’ll see.
They're pushing into that Ben really hard and I don't what good does it contribute to the organization, it's just saying we're like this and who ever opposes us will got their lives suffer. I don't think a bad input will ripe a good output but they should set an example that more into the good side of all things rather than they're setting an example of what others shouldn't be doing, this is insanity on their management imo.

I think the opposite.  What would your boss do if you threatened and turned your back on his organization.  Good for Philly, if I owned a team I'd do the same thing.  Players have been getting too much power in saying exactly where they want to go and what they want to do after a team offered you $200 million for 4 years to play a game you happen to love.  Ben gets what Ben gets at this point.  All other players, u on notice.
I get it but right now it's either he play on his own will for the Sixers or wait until Morey get a difference maker to be traded with Simmons. This is something interesting to be honest and if there will be some twist of events, it will surely make some headlines once again. I wonder who will they got if there's a trade happen, not gonna expect that Beal and Lillard catch.
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October 21, 2021, 06:33:14 PM
They are teaching Ben a lesson here, he is still very young, 25 years old now, so even if his contract will end, he could still play, but how would he do that if there's no reference from the teams that might be interested on him because he is not playing for many years.
You're probably right. Simmons' NBA career will be over if he sits on the bench during the next 4 seasons. I am sure that his skills will decrease significantly without playing practice, and it's obvious that no other team will offer him a new contract after that.
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October 21, 2021, 06:18:19 PM
Infairness with Ben maybe he's been bullied to much emotionally by his teammate nor to his management specially with the coaching staff since a player will never act like that if he didn't hear nor feel a bad blood towards him. If Sixers just cheer him up while his down for sure he will be inspired to play on next season. But guess all things became worst unto them as days past so maybe they should trade him and end this drama.

For me, it's not. He's been in the organization for a long and even one of the influential, part of decision-making, and possibly future franchise players there but will be bullied? He didn't get down. He should be the one expected to lift the spirit of his teammates and not the other way around as one of Sixer's superstars and top players.

Simmons is even willing to be traded but the Sixers can't find a good trading package since the team wants a better trade thinking Simmons is a valuable player.

The organization should not treat him as a baby. If a player wants to go out, trade that player immediately as it's not healthy anymore to keep that player in the roster.
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October 21, 2021, 05:53:09 PM
Daryl Morey said today that Sixers fans should strap in because they’re ready to take this Ben Simmons situation four years if they have to. They’re literally threatening to ruin Ben’s career. This is the most power heavy move I’ve seen from NBA ownership/management in as long as I can remember. They’re trying to shift the balance of power and so far they seem to be holding their ground… 4 years of Ben sitting… We’ll see.
They're pushing into that Ben really hard and I don't what good does it contribute to the organization, it's just saying we're like this and who ever opposes us will got their lives suffer. I don't think a bad input will ripe a good output but they should set an example that more into the good side of all things rather than they're setting an example of what others shouldn't be doing, this is insanity on their management imo.

I think the opposite.  What would your boss do if you threatened and turned your back on his organization.  Good for Philly, if I owned a team I'd do the same thing.  Players have been getting too much power in saying exactly where they want to go and what they want to do after a team offered you $200 million for 4 years to play a game you happen to love.  Ben gets what Ben gets at this point.  All other players, u on notice.
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October 21, 2021, 05:48:04 PM
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Infairness with Ben maybe he's been bullied to much emotionally by his teammate nor to his management specially with the coaching staff since a player will never act like that if he didn't hear nor feel a bad blood towards him. If Sixers just cheer him up while his down for sure he will be inspired to play on next season. But guess all things became worst unto them as days past so maybe they should trade him and end this drama.
Joel tried to reach out if I'm not mistaken but he ignored. Having cheerleaders will make him softer and he doesn't need that. It's clear that he wants out that badly but to say he's bullied is kinda funny. Is he still a baby? The guy is a grown up and a professional athlete with a multi-million contract with the team. I'm pretty sure he understood what he signed up for. He tried to act tough and still trying to but eveyone's probably tired of his attitude.
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October 21, 2021, 05:18:04 PM
Daryl Morey said today that Sixers fans should strap in because they’re ready to take this Ben Simmons situation four years if they have to. They’re literally threatening to ruin Ben’s career. This is the most power heavy move I’ve seen from NBA ownership/management in as long as I can remember. They’re trying to shift the balance of power and so far they seem to be holding their ground… 4 years of Ben sitting… We’ll see.
They're pushing into that Ben really hard and I don't what good does it contribute to the organization, it's just saying we're like this and who ever opposes us will got their lives suffer. I don't think a bad input will ripe a good output but they should set an example that more into the good side of all things rather than they're setting an example of what others shouldn't be doing, this is insanity on their management imo.
They are teaching Ben a lesson here, he is still very young, 25 years old now, so even if his contract will end, he could still play, but how would he do that if there's no reference from the teams that might be interested on him because he is not playing for many years.

Ben does not give respect, now he is suffering, however, I think it's just a bluff on the management side as, after all, it should always be the interest of the business that will be protected and they don't win in this battle.
Infairness with Ben maybe he's been bullied to much emotionally by his teammate nor to his management specially with the coaching staff since a player will never act like that if he didn't hear nor feel a bad blood towards him. If Sixers just cheer him up while his down for sure he will be inspired to play on next season. But guess all things became worst unto them as days past so maybe they should trade him and end this drama.
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October 21, 2021, 04:48:11 PM
Spurs beating Magic by this much is not an indication that Spurs will be awesome this year. I am a big Spurs fan and I have watched SAS games for nearly 20 years now and I can tell you that we have great players but not "this" great players, they are youngsters who will be working hard to improve themselves, not superstars.

This was an odd game where everything clicked for us, but if you watch carefully all the threes we had were open because we like to get inside and people let us shoot instead. All in all this team is a 30-35 win team at the very best case, anyone who thinks that we could go back to our usual 50+ win each season ways will be wrong, I love Spurs and I would die for Pop, but the team is not there yet.
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October 21, 2021, 04:25:20 PM
Daryl Morey said today that Sixers fans should strap in because they’re ready to take this Ben Simmons situation four years if they have to. They’re literally threatening to ruin Ben’s career. This is the most power heavy move I’ve seen from NBA ownership/management in as long as I can remember. They’re trying to shift the balance of power and so far they seem to be holding their ground… 4 years of Ben sitting… We’ll see.
They're pushing into that Ben really hard and I don't what good does it contribute to the organization, it's just saying we're like this and who ever opposes us will got their lives suffer. I don't think a bad input will ripe a good output but they should set an example that more into the good side of all things rather than they're setting an example of what others shouldn't be doing, this is insanity on their management imo.
They are teaching Ben a lesson here, he is still very young, 25 years old now, so even if his contract will end, he could still play, but how would he do that if there's no reference from the teams that might be interested on him because he is not playing for many years.

Ben does not give respect, now he is suffering, however, I think it's just a bluff on the management side as, after all, it should always be the interest of the business that will be protected and they don't win in this battle.
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October 21, 2021, 04:23:31 PM
I understand that some are happy with the performance of their favorite team but hold your horses hehe. It's still just one game.

Daryl Morey said today that Sixers fans should strap in because they’re ready to take this Ben Simmons situation four years if they have to. They’re literally threatening to ruin Ben’s career. This is the most power heavy move I’ve seen from NBA ownership/management in as long as I can remember. They’re trying to shift the balance of power and so far they seem to be holding their ground… 4 years of Ben sitting… We’ll see.
I think players were given too much power in the past years and Ben took it even further in my opinion. I don't know how negotiations went down between the team and his agent but his actions most likely influenced any potential trade to break.

Sixers lost an opportunity in the last trade window so they're taking it out on Ben too.
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October 21, 2021, 04:20:53 PM
Daryl Morey said today that Sixers fans should strap in because they’re ready to take this Ben Simmons situation four years if they have to. They’re literally threatening to ruin Ben’s career. This is the most power heavy move I’ve seen from NBA ownership/management in as long as I can remember. They’re trying to shift the balance of power and so far they seem to be holding their ground… 4 years of Ben sitting… We’ll see.
They're pushing into that Ben really hard and I don't what good does it contribute to the organization, it's just saying we're like this and who ever opposes us will got their lives suffer. I don't think a bad input will ripe a good output but they should set an example that more into the good side of all things rather than they're setting an example of what others shouldn't be doing, this is insanity on their management imo.
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October 21, 2021, 04:11:05 PM
Daryl Morey said today that Sixers fans should strap in because they’re ready to take this Ben Simmons situation four years if they have to. They’re literally threatening to ruin Ben’s career. This is the most power heavy move I’ve seen from NBA ownership/management in as long as I can remember. They’re trying to shift the balance of power and so far they seem to be holding their ground… 4 years of Ben sitting… We’ll see.
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October 21, 2021, 04:04:33 PM
Yeah very very stressful game it was with a lot of ups and downs and it was not easy to predict where this match was going. Surely it was game of the night and Jalen brown just turned it around with that half court 3 just 5 seconds before the end. Woow amazing game
Yeah, it was an epic battle at MSG. Jaylen Brown had a sensational performance, and he looked unstoppable. Unfortunately for him and for the Celtics, it wasn't enough to win. By the way, the starting lineup of the Knicks also performed great, although Walker's debut did not impress.

I thought that Kemba will play very good against his former team. Anyhow, it was a classic game 2 OT, players are all tired. But there can only be one winner and NYK bench was the key, specially Fournier, ex-Celtics who scored 32 in 44 minutes. Randle leads the team but he is being criticised for taking a bad shot and should have pass the ball instead for Fournier.

Kemba is not the same anymore, even during his time with the Boston Celtics, he is already inconsistent and that's the reason why he was traded to the Knicks which I think he would do well as there's not much pressure on him compared to when he signed with the Celtics where he was coming from a team that he always leads. Celtics traded him because they weren't satisfied of Kemba's performance, but let's hope we will see the old Kemba in NYK.

Being traded means the player is a dead weight to the team especially when his salary is big enough to acquire young players with potential to grow. Kemba Walker performance is very impressive when he was rookie but this started to slide after a couple of years without any improvement and competition from new players that entering NBA with potential. It's very rare for an old prime player to overcome this period of career low especially on his position. Maybe joining on low tier team can improve his career stat just like what other players did and wait for a star player to carry that team.

A lower team?  You crazy?  He got traded from the Celtics not to the Knicks but okc, then bought out.  Knicks picked him up on a one year deal for pretty much nothing.  And if you think the Knicks are a low tier team what do.you think of the celtics?

Can't underestimate the NYK I would say, they have upgraded their lineup this season already as they needed that because they failed last season's playoffs, but despite that, NKY from a shitty team going to the playoffs last season was a huge improvement. We are not going to see an overnight success but the way I see it, NYK is going to be a consistent playoffs team in the long run as long.
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October 21, 2021, 03:35:45 PM
Yeah very very stressful game it was with a lot of ups and downs and it was not easy to predict where this match was going. Surely it was game of the night and Jalen brown just turned it around with that half court 3 just 5 seconds before the end. Woow amazing game
Yeah, it was an epic battle at MSG. Jaylen Brown had a sensational performance, and he looked unstoppable. Unfortunately for him and for the Celtics, it wasn't enough to win. By the way, the starting lineup of the Knicks also performed great, although Walker's debut did not impress.

I thought that Kemba will play very good against his former team. Anyhow, it was a classic game 2 OT, players are all tired. But there can only be one winner and NYK bench was the key, specially Fournier, ex-Celtics who scored 32 in 44 minutes. Randle leads the team but he is being criticised for taking a bad shot and should have pass the ball instead for Fournier.

Kemba is not the same anymore, even during his time with the Boston Celtics, he is already inconsistent and that's the reason why he was traded to the Knicks which I think he would do well as there's not much pressure on him compared to when he signed with the Celtics where he was coming from a team that he always leads. Celtics traded him because they weren't satisfied of Kemba's performance, but let's hope we will see the old Kemba in NYK.

Being traded means the player is a dead weight to the team especially when his salary is big enough to acquire young players with potential to grow. Kemba Walker performance is very impressive when he was rookie but this started to slide after a couple of years without any improvement and competition from new players that entering NBA with potential. It's very rare for an old prime player to overcome this period of career low especially on his position. Maybe joining on low tier team can improve his career stat just like what other players did and wait for a star player to carry that team.

A lower team?  You crazy?  He got traded from the Celtics not to the Knicks but okc, then bought out.  Knicks picked him up on a one year deal for pretty much nothing.  And if you think the Knicks are a low tier team what do.you think of the celtics?
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October 21, 2021, 03:35:36 PM
What's important is they win the game, and for sure the NYK has matured already and they will be a better team this season compared to the previous. As usual, Randle always delivers in the regular season, and this season they have Fournier who is a legit shooter, they needed that if they are struggling inside.
I still have doubts with Randle that may ruin the Knicks team. I saw him at the crucial moments trying to take the outside shot for a winning moment even though it's Fournier who has the free space. That could have been an unselfish move if he passed it and he will still have half the credit for it. At the end he missed it and I am sure they will look at the replays even though they won the game. He has to learn more and being a team player is part of that.
I have this bad feeling that soon, the Knicks problem will be that everyone is trying to be a star and co-players being a threat to reach that instead of a team.
Sound pessimistic but that is how I see it. It's mostly the issue for a young core team.

I don't see the same thing.  Yes last night evan got hot late but Randle is a great closer, proved it time and time again last year.  EF is not going to get every last shot, and if you watched the game Randle was taking his shots but at the same time was dishing it out when needed.  The ball movement last night was never an issue.  There was no iso or me ball out there.  Randle played his ass off.  They know they live and die with Randle on the floor.  Without him they are meh.  Dude dropped a hard 35 points.

I think Randle has been missed out as an MVP candidate this season, he is pretty underrated and if he will continue with this kind of contribution, I guess he has a shot.

Current odds for MVP this season, Randle is.

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October 21, 2021, 03:30:48 PM
What's important is they win the game, and for sure the NYK has matured already and they will be a better team this season compared to the previous. As usual, Randle always delivers in the regular season, and this season they have Fournier who is a legit shooter, they needed that if they are struggling inside.
I still have doubts with Randle that may ruin the Knicks team. I saw him at the crucial moments trying to take the outside shot for a winning moment even though it's Fournier who has the free space. That could have been an unselfish move if he passed it and he will still have half the credit for it. At the end he missed it and I am sure they will look at the replays even though they won the game. He has to learn more and being a team player is part of that.
I have this bad feeling that soon, the Knicks problem will be that everyone is trying to be a star and co-players being a threat to reach that instead of a team.
Sound pessimistic but that is how I see it. It's mostly the issue for a young core team.

I don't see the same thing.  Yes last night evan got hot late but Randle is a great closer, proved it time and time again last year.  EF is not going to get every last shot, and if you watched the game Randle was taking his shots but at the same time was dishing it out when needed.  The ball movement last night was never an issue.  There was no iso or me ball out there.  Randle played his ass off.  They know they live and die with Randle on the floor.  Without him they are meh.  Dude dropped a hard 35 points.
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October 21, 2021, 01:15:28 PM
Kemba is not the same anymore, even during his time with the Boston Celtics, he is already inconsistent and that's the reason why he was traded to the Knicks which I think he would do well as there's not much pressure on him compared to when he signed with the Celtics where he was coming from a team that he always leads. Celtics traded him because they weren't satisfied of Kemba's performance, but let's hope we will see the old Kemba in NYK.
Being traded means the player is a dead weight to the team especially when his salary is big enough to acquire young players with potential to grow. Kemba Walker performance is very impressive when he was rookie but this started to slide after a couple of years without any improvement and competition from new players that entering NBA with potential. It's very rare for an old prime player to overcome this period of career low especially on his position. Maybe joining on low tier team can improve his career stat just like what other players did and wait for a star player to carry that team.

So much true, Kemba was a prolific young talent as a rookie. But as the years passed on, not saying that he started playing worse, but there were other young talents better than him. Last season was somewhat ok for him as he scored an avg of 19 points a game and as a point guard that's quite good in my eyes. Let's see how he does with the Knicks.

That's why he was traded to the Celtics last year because his value is going down. And true, when he was in Celtics uniform, his performance is below to what we expect of him. And then he got injured near playoffs if I'm not mistaken and he was a non-factor as the Celtics was eliminated in the first round. He might be in a good team this year, but I'm not sold on him playing like his days on Hornets, I think that day is over now because of the wear and tear on his body.
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October 21, 2021, 10:24:30 AM
Watching the Bulls game right now. Its great seeing them actually have a team that is competitive with a legitimate future. I know they aren’t winning any championships this year or anything but they are on their way to being able to have a team good enough to attract a mega star.

It was a total overhaul from last year, and they added solid players around Lavine.

Good win for them, they also covered the spread today against the Pistons so for sure many happy campers today.

NY Knicks vs Boston, what a game it went into OT.

Absolutely, and I think Zach Lavine is on his way to being a superstar.  He's been very very good, but I'm not sure he was quite at superstar level, but I think he'll be making that jump up. Love this quote from him about last nights game "This ain't last year. We're looking forward now," LaVine said of the revamped Bulls, who also added Lonzo Ball and Alex Caruso to the roster. "It's a whole new team. A whole new mindset. So, I'm excited that we grinded that one out. A win's a win."
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