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October 20, 2021, 09:23:54 PM
Watching the Bulls game right now. Its great seeing them actually have a team that is competitive with a legitimate future. I know they aren’t winning any championships this year or anything but they are on their way to being able to have a team good enough to attract a mega star.

It was a total overhaul from last year, and they added solid players around Lavine.

Good win for them, they also covered the spread today against the Pistons so for sure many happy campers today.

NY Knicks vs Boston, what a game it went into OT.
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October 20, 2021, 08:10:56 PM
Watching the Bulls game right now. Its great seeing them actually have a team that is competitive with a legitimate future. I know they aren’t winning any championships this year or anything but they are on their way to being able to have a team good enough to attract a mega star.
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October 20, 2021, 08:10:08 PM
Bucks leading the Nets in the second quarter. Giannis is taking the first game seriously and they want to proved that winning last season's championship is no fluke.

James Harden leading the Nets, and so is Patty Mills, I guess they won't miss Kyrie as Patty is a very solid all around player.

Score: 50-37 - Bucks.

Don't kid yourself patty can't hold kyries jock.  They might be fine but not because patty mills is an equal stand in.  I do think patty is perfect for this team but he is no kyrie on the floor.  Patty excels with stars on the court with him.  Great complimentary player that teams need to win.

What I meant is that they have another scoring options that can play a similar position. If Kyrie is not available then it will be like -20-30 points per game for the Nets. Durant and Harden might cover it, however, they still need someone and Patty can be a good fit for the Nets. Unfortunately they have lost to the Bucks, Giannis is too much.

Gotcha.  Yeah patty is good to have on any team, great glue guy.  Joe Harris needs to step up and shot it put too this year.  I don't know how the Bucks weren't favored out of the gate again.  Returning Champs and returning probably the best if not the best than second best player in the league who is completely unguardable.  Only way to stop is to double and triple him.  Would love to be a 3 point shooter on that team.

Yup, I agree with the Joe Harris scenario, he really needs to step up this season. He was inconsistent last year and I observed that he played good when they are on their hard court. But when they go on the opponents turf, he has a dismay performance.

So Harris needs to improved his game, given that he will have a lot of good minutes in the floor since Kyrie is not going to play. Hopefully, he can upped his ppg too and contribute more.
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October 20, 2021, 05:53:23 PM
Westbrook is under a bit of pressure now as performance is not looking good and Lakers would be worried about that. He really needs to perform in the next couple of games other wise if Lakers loose their upcoming matches, then he may be sitting in the bench. I really hope his performance improve in the upcoming matches.
I guess the Lakers are not worried about Westbrook's poor performance in the first game of the regular season, considering that he definitely needs some time to adapt. However, if there are no improvements after 5-10 upcoming matches, then coach Vogel should make some changes.

Yes, Coach Vogel is known to make adjustments in his starting line-up or even in the middle of the game. For sure Westbrook's competitive fire will shown later as this season progresses. This is the same with Washington Wizards early. But once Westbrook settles down wit the team, he blend very well and even making triple double again. There's a lot inside of Russ, maybe he is no longer in his prime, but damn, he is still better 50% of the players in the NBA right now.
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October 20, 2021, 05:34:21 PM
Bucks leading the Nets in the second quarter. Giannis is taking the first game seriously and they want to proved that winning last season's championship is no fluke.

James Harden leading the Nets, and so is Patty Mills, I guess they won't miss Kyrie as Patty is a very solid all around player.

Score: 50-37 - Bucks.

Don't kid yourself patty can't hold kyries jock.  They might be fine but not because patty mills is an equal stand in.  I do think patty is perfect for this team but he is no kyrie on the floor.  Patty excels with stars on the court with him.  Great complimentary player that teams need to win.

What I meant is that they have another scoring options that can play a similar position. If Kyrie is not available then it will be like -20-30 points per game for the Nets. Durant and Harden might cover it, however, they still need someone and Patty can be a good fit for the Nets. Unfortunately they have lost to the Bucks, Giannis is too much.

Gotcha.  Yeah patty is good to have on any team, great glue guy.  Joe Harris needs to step up and shot it put too this year.  I don't know how the Bucks weren't favored out of the gate again.  Returning Champs and returning probably the best if not the best than second best player in the league who is completely unguardable.  Only way to stop is to double and triple him.  Would love to be a 3 point shooter on that team.
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October 20, 2021, 05:21:18 PM
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Westbrook does play his rule according to the game design for him, so if they can't maximize the talent of Westbrook with their system, I think they made a bad decision acquiring him in trade and soon he will be traded again.
I also thought it was a "bad marriage" when he was acquired but we'll see.

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It's too early, I understand the frustration of the fans but the Lakers does not need to be at the top, they have to sacrifice some games playing with WB to build chemistry and what's important is they will be in the playoffs healthy
Exactly. Fans have every right to be disapointed but we shouldn't be expecting they will start racking up wins right off the bat after the Lakers management made significant changes to the team.

Look!, when Davis joined the Lakers, we already expected that they will win a championship and it happened. Now, they have added three star players (2 are not in their prime), DJ, Melo, and Westbrook, so I don't think this lineup is not enough to win a championship, the chemistry is just the big problem that they have to solve so they'll be a scary team in the court not only in paper.
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October 20, 2021, 05:01:47 PM
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Westbrook does play his rule according to the game design for him, so if they can't maximize the talent of Westbrook with their system, I think they made a bad decision acquiring him in trade and soon he will be traded again.
I also thought it was a "bad marriage" when he was acquired but we'll see.

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It's too early, I understand the frustration of the fans but the Lakers does not need to be at the top, they have to sacrifice some games playing with WB to build chemistry and what's important is they will be in the playoffs healthy
Exactly. Fans have every right to be disapointed but we shouldn't be expecting they will start racking up wins right off the bat after the Lakers management made significant changes to the team.
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October 20, 2021, 04:49:53 PM
Westbrook is under a bit of pressure now as performance is not looking good and Lakers would be worried about that. He really needs to perform in the next couple of games other wise if Lakers loose their upcoming matches, then he may be sitting in the bench. I really hope his performance improve in the upcoming matches.
I guess the Lakers are not worried about Westbrook's poor performance in the first game of the regular season, considering that he definitely needs some time to adapt. However, if there are no improvements after 5-10 upcoming matches, then coach Vogel should make some changes.
I may not like his style as a PG but he's still a tough competitor. I expect him to bounce back and have better connection with the team after ten games. It would be a mistake if the coach would bench him after a couple.

Perhaps he also needs to improve his "fashion" when coming to the games hehe.

Westbrook does play his rule according to the game design for him, so if they can't maximize the talent of Westbrook with their system, I think they made a bad decision acquiring him in trade and soon he will be traded again. It's too early, I understand the frustration of the fans but the Lakers does not need to be at the top, they have to sacrifice some games playing with WB to build chemistry and what's important is they will be in the playoffs healthy.
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October 20, 2021, 04:39:58 PM
^Yes ,exactly like how everyone imagined... both lakers and nets losing on the opening night... This night was a weird way to start the season, however it showed once again that no matter what type of team you build, if you are not a "team" yet then you will be beaten.

Lakers do have a better roster if you ask me, sure Curry is amazing but if you look at the roster list Lakers beat GSW overall, and yet we saw GSW win because they are a team, whereas Lakers is not a team just yet.

Same goes for Nets and Bucks, no kyrie on nets, they are getting used to each other, they are playing together now but it hasn't been a while whereas Bucks won a chip together. So all in all it is obvious to me that being a team together beats being individuals who are talented, and last night was the proof. You will see that the more lakers and nets play together, they will get used to each other and they will be much better.
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October 20, 2021, 04:08:04 PM
Westbrook is under a bit of pressure now as performance is not looking good and Lakers would be worried about that. He really needs to perform in the next couple of games other wise if Lakers loose their upcoming matches, then he may be sitting in the bench. I really hope his performance improve in the upcoming matches.
I guess the Lakers are not worried about Westbrook's poor performance in the first game of the regular season, considering that he definitely needs some time to adapt. However, if there are no improvements after 5-10 upcoming matches, then coach Vogel should make some changes.
I may not like his style as a PG but he's still a tough competitor. I expect him to bounce back and have better connection with the team after ten games. It would be a mistake if the coach would bench him after a couple.

Perhaps he also needs to improve his "fashion" when coming to the games hehe.
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October 20, 2021, 03:50:28 PM
Westbrook is under a bit of pressure now as performance is not looking good and Lakers would be worried about that. He really needs to perform in the next couple of games other wise if Lakers loose their upcoming matches, then he may be sitting in the bench. I really hope his performance improve in the upcoming matches.
I guess the Lakers are not worried about Westbrook's poor performance in the first game of the regular season, considering that he definitely needs some time to adapt. However, if there are no improvements after 5-10 upcoming matches, then coach Vogel should make some changes.
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October 20, 2021, 01:36:10 PM
I haven't watched the whole Lakers vs GSW game, but the Lakers lost. It's not that the Lakers were missing something except a small chemistry and missed free throws and turnovers, but it's the GSW has been once again spectacular this year. A lot of guys has been improving, Jordan Poole was the most notable player who has greatly improved. They're once again surrounded with a lot of shooters, can both do damage from inside the paint or beyond the arc.
I hope to see a dangerous GSW again and reclaim their spot in the playoffs.
I watched the whole game trying to analyze what is wrong and what is right. It's the battle of teams with full chemistry (GSW) against none (Lakers).
But when its Lebron, AD, and Rondo on the floor, you could see a big change with how they move. When Westbrook is in, they are scrambled.
I agree with what Charles Barkley and how he compared it with his own experience after being traded to Suns. Westbrook cannot find himself.
Suddenly, it became a different league or band of players. He got used to being the main man or the quarterback but now the job is being divided to everyone.
Charles said he didn't need to change, just be Westbrook again. Let's give him more time to adjust and I know he will get through it.
We have been criticizing Russ too much, so yes, give him more time, I also watched the game and it seems he is more like trying to proved himself in the Lakers uniform. But maybe this lost will teach him and his team a lesson, not to push themselves but to relax in the game. Defense is good, they limited Curry, but he got a triple double, it was Poole who ignite the team when they are catching up the Lakers, so kudos to him. But Lakers still looks solid to me, just few tweaks here and there and they would be perfect.

GSW has once again proved that team chemistry is superior to having world-class players. If you even see the post-match stats it's even clear over there. 4 of GSW's players scored 15 points or more and 7 of them scored more than 10. Which clearly indicates that they are not reliant on one or two major players.  but for the Lakers, I felt like only Davis and Lebron were on the pitch. Others were trying so just give them the ball and hope they did something with it. It's been a few matches and I still don't see any coordination from the side of Lakers and that concerns me a lot.
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October 20, 2021, 01:29:00 PM

Charles said he didn't need to change, just be Westbrook again. Let's give him more time to adjust and I know he will get through it.

It's too early to judge but what we saw in the preseason is really happening here, Westbrook struggles continue and I don't know how long the Lakers would be able to tolerate that. I hope they'll win in the next few games though and I hope that Westbrook will be able to blend well as this team is his big chance to win his first championship.
Westbrook is under a bit of pressure now as performance is not looking good and Lakers would be worried about that. He really needs to perform in the next couple of games other wise if Lakers loose their upcoming matches, then he may be sitting in the bench. I really hope his performance improve in the upcoming matches.
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October 20, 2021, 12:53:01 PM
I haven't watched the whole Lakers vs GSW game, but the Lakers lost. It's not that the Lakers were missing something except a small chemistry and missed free throws and turnovers, but it's the GSW has been once again spectacular this year. A lot of guys has been improving, Jordan Poole was the most notable player who has greatly improved. They're once again surrounded with a lot of shooters, can both do damage from inside the paint or beyond the arc.
I hope to see a dangerous GSW again and reclaim their spot in the playoffs.
If Jordan Poole will be consistent all throughout the whole season, other teams will need to watch out for him because he is a great shooter.
With Poole scoring 20+ points against the Lakers, Curry got a triple double (his 8th on his career). This just shows that its not only Curry that are shooting right now but there are more who are shooting especially from the outside. Just seeing their roster and most of them can really shoot threes. Wiggins, Curry, Thompson, Poole, Porter, Bjelica. Almost all of them have a good shooting percentage on three points.
Curry, Thompson, Green and now we can include Poole maybe in the list. The Big 3 + 1 Cheesy. Overall, if they will not get injured especially Curry and Thompson I think the Warriors will be a playoff contender and possible championship contender as well. They can do it especially now that we already saw how the Lakers are playing, there is a chance that it will be Warriors Vs. Nets/Bucks. What do you think? Cheesy
There's the word "if", of course, the GSW will become a better team if Curry will get help from his teammates, he cannot carry this team alone and we've seen that last season. Just like the old Warriors who won multiple championships, they need some role players to make it possible and let's hope the consistency of Poole will stay until Thompson will officially return.

Poole has been an important part of GSW so far. But I am curious if even Kaly returns, will he be able to play live before? But I have to say that GSW has been one of the most structured and team-based teams of the whole NBA, Their chemistry on the field is just top-notch. And in addition to that, if Curry can play on his peak form, we are in for a treat. GSW have overall very good three shooters and that is a huge advantage and if Klay can return to his best again, we all know how deadly he is from the 3 point shooting range.
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October 20, 2021, 11:01:27 AM
I haven't watched the whole Lakers vs GSW game, but the Lakers lost. It's not that the Lakers were missing something except a small chemistry and missed free throws and turnovers, but it's the GSW has been once again spectacular this year. A lot of guys has been improving, Jordan Poole was the most notable player who has greatly improved. They're once again surrounded with a lot of shooters, can both do damage from inside the paint or beyond the arc.

I hope to see a dangerous GSW again and reclaim their spot in the playoffs.
I watched the whole game trying to analyze what is wrong and what is right. It's the battle of teams with full chemistry (GSW) against none (Lakers).
But when its Lebron, AD, and Rondo on the floor, you could see a big change with how they move. When Westbrook is in, they are scrambled.
I agree with what Charles Barkley and how he compared it with his own experience after being traded to Suns. Westbrook cannot find himself.
Suddenly, it became a different league or band of players. He got used to being the main man or the quarterback but now the job is being divided to everyone.
Charles said he didn't need to change, just be Westbrook again. Let's give him more time to adjust and I know he will get through it.

We have been criticizing Russ too much, so yes, give him more time, I also watched the game and it seems he is more like trying to proved himself in the Lakers uniform. But maybe this lost will teach him and his team a lesson, not to push themselves but to relax in the game. Defense is good, they limited Curry, but he got a triple double, it was Poole who ignite the team when they are catching up the Lakers, so kudos to him. But Lakers still looks solid to me, just few tweaks here and there and they would be perfect.
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October 20, 2021, 07:22:59 AM
I haven't watched the whole Lakers vs GSW game, but the Lakers lost. It's not that the Lakers were missing something except a small chemistry and missed free throws and turnovers, but it's the GSW has been once again spectacular this year. A lot of guys has been improving, Jordan Poole was the most notable player who has greatly improved. They're once again surrounded with a lot of shooters, can both do damage from inside the paint or beyond the arc.

I hope to see a dangerous GSW again and reclaim their spot in the playoffs.
If Jordan Poole will be consistent all throughout the whole season, other teams will need to watch out for him because he is a great shooter.
With Poole scoring 20+ points against the Lakers, Curry got a triple double (his 8th on his career). This just shows that its not only Curry that are shooting right now but there are more who are shooting especially from the outside. Just seeing their roster and most of them can really shoot threes. Wiggins, Curry, Thompson, Poole, Porter, Bjelica. Almost all of them have a good shooting percentage on three points.

Curry, Thompson, Green and now we can include Poole maybe in the list. The Big 3 + 1 Cheesy. Overall, if they will not get injured especially Curry and Thompson I think the Warriors will be a playoff contender and possible championship contender as well. They can do it especially now that we already saw how the Lakers are playing, there is a chance that it will be Warriors Vs. Nets/Bucks. What do you think? Cheesy

There's the word "if", of course, the GSW will become a better team if Curry will get help from his teammates, he cannot carry this team alone and we've seen that last season. Just like the old Warriors who won multiple championships, they need some role players to make it possible and let's hope the consistency of Poole will stay until Thompson will officially return.
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October 20, 2021, 06:57:05 AM
I haven't watched the whole Lakers vs GSW game, but the Lakers lost. It's not that the Lakers were missing something except a small chemistry and missed free throws and turnovers, but it's the GSW has been once again spectacular this year. A lot of guys has been improving, Jordan Poole was the most notable player who has greatly improved. They're once again surrounded with a lot of shooters, can both do damage from inside the paint or beyond the arc.

I hope to see a dangerous GSW again and reclaim their spot in the playoffs.
If Jordan Poole will be consistent all throughout the whole season, other teams will need to watch out for him because he is a great shooter.
With Poole scoring 20+ points against the Lakers, Curry got a triple double (his 8th on his career). This just shows that its not only Curry that are shooting right now but there are more who are shooting especially from the outside. Just seeing their roster and most of them can really shoot threes. Wiggins, Curry, Thompson, Poole, Porter, Bjelica. Almost all of them have a good shooting percentage on three points.

Curry, Thompson, Green and now we can include Poole maybe in the list. The Big 3 + 1 Cheesy. Overall, if they will not get injured especially Curry and Thompson I think the Warriors will be a playoff contender and possible championship contender as well. They can do it especially now that we already saw how the Lakers are playing, there is a chance that it will be Warriors Vs. Nets/Bucks. What do you think? Cheesy
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October 20, 2021, 06:38:07 AM

Charles said he didn't need to change, just be Westbrook again. Let's give him more time to adjust and I know he will get through it.

It's too early to judge but what we saw in the preseason is really happening here, Westbrook struggles continue and I don't know how long the Lakers would be able to tolerate that. I hope they'll win in the next few games though and I hope that Westbrook will be able to blend well as this team is his big chance to win his first championship.
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October 20, 2021, 05:27:37 AM
I haven't watched the whole Lakers vs GSW game, but the Lakers lost. It's not that the Lakers were missing something except a small chemistry and missed free throws and turnovers, but it's the GSW has been once again spectacular this year. A lot of guys has been improving, Jordan Poole was the most notable player who has greatly improved. They're once again surrounded with a lot of shooters, can both do damage from inside the paint or beyond the arc.

I hope to see a dangerous GSW again and reclaim their spot in the playoffs.
I watched the whole game trying to analyze what is wrong and what is right. It's the battle of teams with full chemistry (GSW) against none (Lakers).
But when its Lebron, AD, and Rondo on the floor, you could see a big change with how they move. When Westbrook is in, they are scrambled.
I agree with what Charles Barkley and how he compared it with his own experience after being traded to Suns. Westbrook cannot find himself.
Suddenly, it became a different league or band of players. He got used to being the main man or the quarterback but now the job is being divided to everyone.
Charles said he didn't need to change, just be Westbrook again. Let's give him more time to adjust and I know he will get through it.
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October 20, 2021, 05:11:01 AM
I haven't watched the whole Lakers vs GSW game, but the Lakers lost. It's not that the Lakers were missing something except a small chemistry and missed free throws and turnovers, but it's the GSW has been once again spectacular this year. A lot of guys has been improving, Jordan Poole was the most notable player who has greatly improved. They're once again surrounded with a lot of shooters, can both do damage from inside the paint or beyond the arc.

I hope to see a dangerous GSW again and reclaim their spot in the playoffs.

Also noticed the contribution of Iguodala who had a good game contributing 12 points from 4-7 shooting. I think as a veteran of the team, he can be a big help for the GSW to be better this season, and this GSW is playing without Thompson yet, so they are already scary at the current state. We also cannot miss the contribution of Bjelica, he is very effective having a double-double in his first game as a warrior.
He is comfortable playing with the GSW as they never change the system, unlike with the Miami Heat (his previous team), I think Iggy has a chance to have another ring before he will formally retire. I'm happy for him and I hope he will remain healthy throughout the season as he is very useful to the team especially on their defensive side.

Yeah, nothing has change, Iggy is familiar with Steve Kerr's system and there is no adjustment for him. He feels relax that's why in his first game alone he has a good contribution.

Although after the game, Curry said that he has a bad game, still he has a double double. Talking about bad games. But Jordan Poole is the difference here, he has tremendously improve his game and could be part of the Splash brothers when Klay comes back this season.
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