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Quote from: OgNasty on October 18, 2021, 03:51:29 PM

I can’t believe the Suns didn’t give Ayton a max deal. The one good player they draft in years and they’re going to let him slip away while giving 90 million to a backup and keeping Chris Paul around. Sometimes you have to wonder what management is thinking. Does this mean we’ll see an Ayton trade sometime in the future?

I am also surprised about this news!
Deandre Ayton and Devin Booker can be considered "the jewels of the Phoenix Suns".

I would also believe after Ayton's performance in the last playoffs, he would have a good chance of getting a maximum deal with the Suns.
Ayton deserves it, he proved he is a good player and consequently has a promising future ahead, because he is only 23 years old, he will improve a lot in his future!

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Quote from: OgNasty on October 18, 2021, 03:51:29 PM

I can’t believe the Suns didn’t give Ayton a max deal. The one good player they draft in years and they’re going to let him slip away while giving 90 million to a backup and keeping Chris Paul around. Sometimes you have to wonder what management is thinking. Does this mean we’ll see an Ayton trade sometime in the future?

I'm surprised as well, with what Ayton showed them in the playoffs, I think it's enough to prove to the management that they can help this team to achieve their objective to win a championship, Ayton is still young and healthy if they can offer a max deal to an aging playing, why is it not possible for Ayton. Well, if a trade will happen it will be the recipient team of Ayton will benefit from his talent.

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I can’t believe the Suns didn’t give Ayton a max deal. The one good player they draft in years and they’re going to let him slip away while giving 90 million to a backup and keeping Chris Paul around. Sometimes you have to wonder what management is thinking. Does this mean we’ll see an Ayton trade sometime in the future?

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but if they are not injured then nobody will be able to stop them, not even Nets with Kyrie in it.

We are not talking here about the core players of the Lakers in their prime. Even they will play healthy all season, we can't conclude that "nobody" can able to stop them. Maybe I will agree with your statement if those players are in their prime days. I'm not seeing the Lakers as the best contender this season, honestly even the Brooklyn Nets. There's no unstoppable team right now based on my own view and we might see competition to at least 5-6 teams that deserve the Larry O' Brien championship this season.

I agree.
Any team are capable of making to the playoffs or even the Finals. Look how the Suns are so close to winning a championship last playoffs, and they aren't even expected to make it to the Finals.
I guess the era of superteams is over. Underdog teams, composed with perfect complimentary players could actually beat the superteam now.
Even the GSW is scary this season. Especially If Klay plays the same energy after the long injury.

No disrespect to the Phonenix suns but they had an easy journey going to the NBA Finals, in all the teams they played in the west, at least one of the star players was injured.

For LA Lakers, - Davis was injured.
For Denver Nuggets - Murray was injured.
For LA Clippers - Kawhi was injured.

No way they'll make it to the NBA finals this season if the good teams in the West does not have an injury problem.

But you can't take anything from Phoenix though regarding their championship run last year. They remain healthy and they are on top of the standings in the regular season. And even if those players are injured, they still have a hard time winning against Lakers, Nuggets and Clippers. You can also add that Giannis injury, fortunately he was able to come back and win the NBA for the Bucks. So this season, let's see if Phoenix can duplicate it so that there they can proved last year's going to the finals is no fluke.

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Quote from: freedomgo on October 18, 2021, 03:09:52 AM

No disrespect to the Phonenix suns but they had an easy journey going to the NBA Finals, in all the teams they played in the west, at least one of the star players was injured.

For LA Lakers, - Davis was injured.
For Denver Nuggets - Murray was injured.
For LA Clippers - Kawhi was injured.

No way they'll make it to the NBA finals this season if the good teams in the West does not have an injury problem.

It was still awesome for them to reach to finals even if they were lucky, because at the end of the day they still got there, other teams could have still beat them even when they lacked players because Suns were not seen as a team that was a good team by the start of the season. However they ended up becoming second seed, which shows that they were not joking around and they were actually a good team, but at the end of the day they still beat all those injured teams and they got there.

I do not feel like going to finals ever feel like something they should be feeling guilty about because of other teams. I mean Toronto win a championship because GSW had all their players injured and it was still a championship, that's good enough for me.

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Quote from: Yogee on October 18, 2021, 11:43:52 AM

Sixers will trade Ben once trade opens again. That is based on my assumption that Sixers didn't get acceptable offers from other teams which is why they didn't let him go. That could change but that largely depends on Ben's performance.

Yeah, i think this is the most likely to happen, the 76ers will fulfill Ben Simmons request to go on another team.

Let's see how this whole story ends...
Can anyone tell me which are the possible teams that Simmons can go to!!?

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Quote from: mirakal on October 18, 2021, 01:02:32 PM

That's true, Simmons is not perfect but he still belongs to the stars in the NBA, the reason why he got that huge contract with the 76ers. His FT shooting is bad and not a good 3 point shooting, but look at the other side, his rebounding, defense, and assists are his major contributions to the team, what's important is that the coach just has to manage him properly so he will be effective. Just wondering, why we haven't seen this problem before coach Rivers arrived in 76ers?

Simmons was effectively playing before Rivers arrival, he has a good relationship with the whole team especially with Embiid

not sure though what happened after new coach handle him, might have an internal issue with how Rivers treat him or whatsoever, that playoff performance

Triggered him not being interested in working again with his team. But he has no choice, unless he wanted to waste that millions of dollars which is not

the case now. Still a possibilities to see more drama after this regular season start.

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There is news that Simmons practiced with the 76ers today, and it was the first time since he quarreled with the team. So if Ben decides to stay with the 76ers, then it will be interesting to see his first performance on the home court after returning and fans' reaction to him.

That's good news for the 76ers and for Ben Simmons as well since he didn't pay attention to what the other people say about his shooting ability since everyone has their own skills especially with his defensive skill that has been helping the 76ers to be in the playoffs this past seasons. Looks like they are all set and ready to start the season with a strong team.

I think people were too harsh on him. Okay, defensively, he is definitely gifted especially with his passing abilities, sight on the court, and basketball IQ. Though he can drive into the rim and finish, he does lack the necessary shooting ability midrange or on threes. Though this may be practiced through and developed early on, I do think that Ben Simmons can outweigh such skill with his athleticism and height.

Due to the dominance of three-point shots in the NBA, it's like most players should be hitting threes. Heck, even Centers now are practicing three-point shots!

That's true, Simmons is not perfect but he still belongs to the stars in the NBA, the reason why he got that huge contract with the 76ers. His FT shooting is bad and not a good 3 point shooting, but look at the other side, his rebounding, defense, and assists are his major contributions to the team, what's important is that the coach just has to manage him properly so he will be effective. Just wondering, why we haven't seen this problem before coach Rivers arrived in 76ers?

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There is news that Simmons practiced with the 76ers today, and it was the first time since he quarreled with the team. So if Ben decides to stay with the 76ers, then it will be interesting to see his first performance on the home court after returning and fans' reaction to him.

That's good news for the 76ers and for Ben Simmons as well since he didn't pay attention to what the other people say about his shooting ability since everyone has their own skills especially with his defensive skill that has been helping the 76ers to be in the playoffs this past seasons. Looks like they are all set and ready to start the season with a strong team.

I think people were too harsh on him. Okay, defensively, he is definitely gifted especially with his passing abilities, sight on the court, and basketball IQ. Though he can drive into the rim and finish, he does lack the necessary shooting ability midrange or on threes. Though this may be practiced through and developed early on, I do think that Ben Simmons can outweigh such skill with his athleticism and height.

Due to the dominance of three-point shots in the NBA, it's like most players should be hitting threes. Heck, even Centers now are practicing three-point shots!

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Quote from: gagux123 on October 18, 2021, 11:27:53 AM

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Will Simmons stay? Or could he leave the team in his future!!?

What will be the proposals that Philadelphia 76ers will offer to Simmons !!?

Sixers will trade Ben once trade opens again. That is based on my assumption that Sixers didn't get acceptable offers from other teams which is why they didn't let him go. That could change but that largely depends on Ben's performance.

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I hope they'll stop that, it would not benefit Simmons and most especially to the team at all.

It doesn't but we can't deny it has already caused problems before. It would be wise for Doc not to put him down so it would also benefits the Sixers.

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Quote from: Yogee on October 18, 2021, 11:05:37 AM

It looks like we're glad to see him back with the team. I don't think he'll get a lot of minutes in the first ten games but just wait until Sixers starts losing again and one of the factors is Ben's missing valuable free throws.

We will see, their first game will be on Oct. 20 against the Pelicans on the road.

Simmons being able to attend the practice would mean positive or negative for the team as that depends on his contribution to the team. He still has that talent and he can contribute in areas where the team needed him, so without him, or him getting limited minutes, that's a gamble for the team.

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I expect the drama to resurface again hehe.

I hope they'll stop that, it would not benefit Simmons and most especially to the team at all.

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Quote from: Yogee on October 18, 2021, 11:05:37 AM

It looks like we're glad to see him back with the team. I don't think he'll get a lot of minutes in the first ten games but just wait until Sixers starts losing again and one of the factors is Ben's missing valuable free throws. I expect the drama to resurface again hehe.

What good news, I'm glad everything is apparently fine. I am excite that Ben Simmons has introduced himself to the team and that he will soon be active again!
Will Simmons stay? Or could he leave the team in his future!!?

What will be the proposals that Philadelphia 76ers will offer to Simmons !!?

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It looks like we're glad to see him back with the team. I don't think he'll get a lot of minutes in the first ten games but just wait until Sixers starts losing again and one of the factors is Ben's missing valuable free throws. I expect the drama to resurface again hehe.

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That's good news for the 76ers and for Ben Simmons as well since he didn't pay attention to what the other people say about his shooting ability since everyone has their own skills especially with his defensive skill that has been helping the 76ers to be in the playoffs this past seasons. Looks like they are all set and ready to start the season with a strong team.

So he doesn't want to be traded again? or the 76ers will not trade him anymore?
I'm just curious, appearing in the practice does not mean he is ready to play and dedicate all he got to the team, maybe it's just for formality so there will be teams that could take the offer of the 76ers in a possible trade, and if Ben Simmons perform well in the regular season, then he won't stay for long in his current team if the intention of the 76ers will really to trade him.

Maybe its part of formality since Simmons already stated that he don't want to play on sixers anymore maybe he just need to do that because of his contract, And if Simmons really want to get out maybe they should release him so that they can ease the tension on there team and move on since for sure once they let uninspired Simmons play maybe it could destroy their chemisty. But lets still see what Simmons could produce if he decide to play again with Sixers.

@freedomgo , You have a valid point. Even I'm also curious what he and also the team management think right now. Ben is undoubtedly an important player for the team but his behavior sometimes hamper the team and the team morale as well. So he coming to the practice is obviously a good sign, at least better than him not coming right? And as far as I know the Sixers won't trade him unless they get a good enough deal.

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Quote from: stadus on October 17, 2021, 03:31:57 PM

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Yes, that's true, but I believe that these days LeBron James is an excellent player, maybe he's not in his prime, but I have no doubt that he still has the capacity to be the MVP or maybe the MVP of the finals in his future.

Talking about Westbrook, I also believe that he has already accepted that he will not be the team leader.
But honestly I don't expect what happened with Irving and LeBron when they both played in Cleveland to happen to Westbrook.

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Or worse, defensive player will add more flopping to gain the upper hand and have it call as an offensive foul. Grin

Hmmm, well, looking at it from this perspective, this is a possibility that it could happen in the future lol

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There is news that Simmons practiced with the 76ers today, and it was the first time since he quarreled with the team. So if Ben decides to stay with the 76ers, then it will be interesting to see his first performance on the home court after returning and fans' reaction to him.

That's good news for the 76ers and for Ben Simmons as well since he didn't pay attention to what the other people say about his shooting ability since everyone has their own skills especially with his defensive skill that has been helping the 76ers to be in the playoffs this past seasons. Looks like they are all set and ready to start the season with a strong team.

So he doesn't want to be traded again? or the 76ers will not trade him anymore?

I'm just curious, appearing in the practice does not mean he is ready to play and dedicate all he got to the team, maybe it's just for formality so there will be teams that could take the offer of the 76ers in a possible trade, and if Ben Simmons perform well in the regular season, then he won't stay for long in his current team if the intention of the 76ers will really to trade him.

Maybe its part of formality since Simmons already stated that he don't want to play on sixers anymore maybe he just need to do that because of his contract, And if Simmons really want to get out maybe they should release him so that they can ease the tension on there team and move on since for sure once they let uninspired Simmons play maybe it could destroy their chemisty. But lets still see what Simmons could produce if he decide to play again with Sixers.

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There is news that Simmons practiced with the 76ers today, and it was the first time since he quarreled with the team. So if Ben decides to stay with the 76ers, then it will be interesting to see his first performance on the home court after returning and fans' reaction to him.

That's good news for the 76ers and for Ben Simmons as well since he didn't pay attention to what the other people say about his shooting ability since everyone has their own skills especially with his defensive skill that has been helping the 76ers to be in the playoffs this past seasons. Looks like they are all set and ready to start the season with a strong team.

So he doesn't want to be traded again? or the 76ers will not trade him anymore?

I'm just curious, appearing in the practice does not mean he is ready to play and dedicate all he got to the team, maybe it's just for formality so there will be teams that could take the offer of the 76ers in a possible trade, and if Ben Simmons perform well in the regular season, then he won't stay for long in his current team if the intention of the 76ers will really to trade him.

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Quote from: dwyane36 on October 17, 2021, 06:35:55 PM

There is news that Simmons practiced with the 76ers today, and it was the first time since he quarreled with the team. So if Ben decides to stay with the 76ers, then it will be interesting to see his first performance on the home court after returning and fans' reaction to him.

That's good news for the 76ers and for Ben Simmons as well since he didn't pay attention to what the other people say about his shooting ability since everyone has their own skills especially with his defensive skill that has been helping the 76ers to be in the playoffs this past seasons. Looks like they are all set and ready to start the season with a strong team.

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but if they are not injured then nobody will be able to stop them, not even Nets with Kyrie in it.

We are not talking here about the core players of the Lakers in their prime. Even they will play healthy all season, we can't conclude that "nobody" can able to stop them. Maybe I will agree with your statement if those players are in their prime days. I'm not seeing the Lakers as the best contender this season, honestly even the Brooklyn Nets. There's no unstoppable team right now based on my own view and we might see competition to at least 5-6 teams that deserve the Larry O' Brien championship this season.

I agree.
Any team are capable of making to the playoffs or even the Finals. Look how the Suns are so close to winning a championship last playoffs, and they aren't even expected to make it to the Finals.
I guess the era of superteams is over. Underdog teams, composed with perfect complimentary players could actually beat the superteam now.
Even the GSW is scary this season. Especially If Klay plays the same energy after the long injury.

No disrespect to the Phonenix suns but they had an easy journey going to the NBA Finals, in all the teams they played in the west, at least one of the star players was injured.

For LA Lakers, - Davis was injured.
For Denver Nuggets - Murray was injured.
For LA Clippers - Kawhi was injured.

No way they'll make it to the NBA finals this season if the good teams in the West does not have an injury problem.

Well, that can be considered as the Lakers were the favorites to win in that series, but because Davis got injured, the Phoenix suns were able to take advantage of the undermanned Lakers. Actually, they might win the NBA Finals if Giannis did not come back from injury, but that guy was tough, he does not want to give that opportunity to the Suns and they did take the championship in 4 straight wins.

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Quote from: Oasisman on October 17, 2021, 11:26:32 PM

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Quote from: sana54210 on October 17, 2021, 04:10:52 PM

but if they are not injured then nobody will be able to stop them, not even Nets with Kyrie in it.

We are not talking here about the core players of the Lakers in their prime. Even they will play healthy all season, we can't conclude that "nobody" can able to stop them. Maybe I will agree with your statement if those players are in their prime days. I'm not seeing the Lakers as the best contender this season, honestly even the Brooklyn Nets. There's no unstoppable team right now based on my own view and we might see competition to at least 5-6 teams that deserve the Larry O' Brien championship this season.

I agree.
Any team are capable of making to the playoffs or even the Finals. Look how the Suns are so close to winning a championship last playoffs, and they aren't even expected to make it to the Finals.
I guess the era of superteams is over. Underdog teams, composed with perfect complimentary players could actually beat the superteam now.
Even the GSW is scary this season. Especially If Klay plays the same energy after the long injury.

No disrespect to the Phonenix suns but they had an easy journey going to the NBA Finals, in all the teams they played in the west, at least one of the star players was injured.

For LA Lakers, - Davis was injured.
For Denver Nuggets - Murray was injured.
For LA Clippers - Kawhi was injured.

No way they'll make it to the NBA finals this season if the good teams in the West does not have an injury problem.

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