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^^ Still a loss though whatever angle you look at it, what he will be getting in Celtics is way below what the Lakers has offered to him, which he gladly turn down. Of course, he has one year to proved it in Boston, but I doubt that they are going to offer him the same as what he is looking before. Yeah, maybe $10 million based on his performance, or worst they will drop him if perform way below expectations again.
Dennis Schroder’s rejection of the Lakers 80 million dollar contract has to be one of the biggest blunders ever. I’m happy he did it, because it was obvious he wasn’t worth the 80 million dollars, but seeing him now try to negotiate a 5 million dollar contract which he may not even get to play on a worse team has to be humbling for him. He’ll lose 15 million dollars this year alone for gambling on himself. I guess if you’re going to bet on yourself you need a firm grasp on reality. My bet is that Schroder never again has the opportunity to make 80 million dollars.
I saw yesterday that he doesn't want the $5.9 Million Dollar offer by the Celtics instead, he want $9.5 Million Dollar for one year 
What a funny decision for him.Now he is feeling it. The consequences of being greedy. From $20M per year to $5.9M for one year
. With this, there might be a possibility that the Celtics might not sign him especially if he can't redeem himself. I agree with what you said though that he will not make 80 Million Dollars again unless, he will show an all-star performance with the Celtics. Just see his face in the picture
. It looks like he regretted his decision . Just kidding.Oh well, he doesn't want the Lakers deal and others said it's not about the money or ego, but look at where he landed and what contract he got. For sure his agent should be partly blame for it. But who knows, maybe he can still blossom in the Celtics organization and become a legit superstar.
Although history is not on his side, Kyrie and then Kemba Walker. And I agree that no team will offer him $80 million.
it's not a loss for Dennis Schröder, let us not judge him and let's believe that it's not the money that's why he didn't sign with the Lakers. Dennis Schröder has one year to prove that he is in the level of the superstar in the NBA, so if he will have a successful next season, who knows he will get at least $100 million contact with the Celtics and he will also be happy where he belongs now.
Dennis Schroder’s rejection of the Lakers 80 million dollar contract has to be one of the biggest blunders ever. I’m happy he did it, because it was obvious he wasn’t worth the 80 million dollars, but seeing him now try to negotiate a 5 million dollar contract which he may not even get to play on a worse team has to be humbling for him. He’ll lose 15 million dollars this year alone for gambling on himself. I guess if you’re going to bet on yourself you need a firm grasp on reality. My bet is that Schroder never again has the opportunity to make 80 million dollars.
I saw yesterday that he doesn't want the $5.9 Million Dollar offer by the Celtics instead, he want $9.5 Million Dollar for one year What a funny decision for him.Now he is feeling it. The consequences of being greedy. From $20M per year to $5.9M for one year
. With this, there might be a possibility that the Celtics might not sign him especially if he can't redeem himself. I agree with what you said though that he will not make 80 Million Dollars again unless, he will show an all-star performance with the Celtics. Just see his face in the picture
. It looks like he regretted his decision . Just kidding.Oh well, he doesn't want the Lakers deal and others said it's not about the money or ego, but look at where he landed and what contract he got. For sure his agent should be partly blame for it. But who knows, maybe he can still blossom in the Celtics organization and become a legit superstar.
Although history is not on his side, Kyrie and then Kemba Walker. And I agree that no team will offer him $80 million.
I saw yesterday that he doesn't want the $5.9 Million Dollar offer by the Celtics instead, he want $9.5 Million Dollar for one year
What a funny decision for him.Now he is feeling it. The consequences of being greedy. From $20M per year to $5.9M for one year
. With this, there might be a possibility that the Celtics might not sign him especially if he can't redeem himself. I agree with what you said though that he will not make 80 Million Dollars again unless, he will show an all-star performance with the Celtics. Just see his face in the picture
. It looks like he regretted his decision . Just kidding.
That picture say it all
until know him and his agent are thinking what they've done wrong, a huge amount of money that being wasted.He's deserve that contract from how we seen him playing last season, maybe he can ask for more if Celtics see his value helping them to win a title,
that might happened "only if", for now he should take this and enjoy his stay at Boston, try to figure out what help he can give to system and be worthy upon staying.
The best shots closed during the 2021 NBA market: let's take a look at what were the top signings in the free agency that started just a week ago.
Free agency 2021 hasn't closed yet as several players have to unveil their next destination. But the bulk of it is definitely behind us, with key veterans already settled on their next adventure.
Malik Monk, Los Angeles Lakers (1 year, $1.8 million)
Otto Porter Jr., Golden State Warriors (1 year, $2.4 million)
Blake Griffin, Brooklyn Nets (1 year, $2.6 million)
Bruce Brown, Brooklyn Nets (1 year, $4.7 million)
Cameron Payne, Phoenix Suns (3 years, $19 million)
Reggie Bullock, Dallas Mavericks (3 years, $30.5 million)
Lonzo Ball, Chicago Bulls (4 years, $85 million)
Free agency 2021 hasn't closed yet as several players have to unveil their next destination. But the bulk of it is definitely behind us, with key veterans already settled on their next adventure.
Malik Monk, Los Angeles Lakers (1 year, $1.8 million)
Otto Porter Jr., Golden State Warriors (1 year, $2.4 million)
Blake Griffin, Brooklyn Nets (1 year, $2.6 million)
Bruce Brown, Brooklyn Nets (1 year, $4.7 million)
Cameron Payne, Phoenix Suns (3 years, $19 million)
Reggie Bullock, Dallas Mavericks (3 years, $30.5 million)
Lonzo Ball, Chicago Bulls (4 years, $85 million)
Lebron James kicking and picking his own players to play with like they are flowers in the field while they are not even his own land and he didn't water them.
Uhmm. Wrong info.
LeBron didn't own no team. The Lakers have their own management that manages their team and players. How do you think a player could do this?
What LeBron has, is influence. He can name players he want to surround him, but the decision will always be in the management's favour, not LeBron's.
Isn't it his fault If LeBron has enough influence and so much value that he could dictate what the management should do and actually follows them?
Besides, these superstars who came after LeBron knows who can bring them ring before they retire. From Miami, Cleveland, and Lakers.
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"We're told Dallas finished second behind the Heat for Lowry; he was intrigued by the Mavericks, who were willing to meet his price tag, but he preferred playing with Butler in Miami. New Orleans was willing to go to $90 million over three years or more, according to a source, but Lowry never leaned toward going there, according to the source. Lowry took three years and $85 million from Miami."
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-free-agency-rumors-mavericks-finished-second-in-kyle-lowry-sweepstakes/Could this be the reason behind the investigation being done by the NBA with Lowry? Teams not having a chance to offer something to players because they are signed too early.
Dennis Schroder’s rejection of the Lakers 80 million dollar contract has to be one of the biggest blunders ever. I’m happy he did it, because it was obvious he wasn’t worth the 80 million dollars, but seeing him now try to negotiate a 5 million dollar contract which he may not even get to play on a worse team has to be humbling for him. He’ll lose 15 million dollars this year alone for gambling on himself. I guess if you’re going to bet on yourself you need a firm grasp on reality. My bet is that Schroder never again has the opportunity to make 80 million dollars.
I saw yesterday that he doesn't want the $5.9 Million Dollar offer by the Celtics instead, he want $9.5 Million Dollar for one year What a funny decision for him.Now he is feeling it. The consequences of being greedy. From $20M per year to $5.9M for one year
. With this, there might be a possibility that the Celtics might not sign him especially if he can't redeem himself. I agree with what you said though that he will not make 80 Million Dollars again unless, he will show an all-star performance with the Celtics. Just see his face in the picture
. It looks like he regretted his decision . Just kidding. 
As far as Vogel goes, he didn't give Dwight Howard a precious time during the big man's tenure in the 2020 Bubble. He just becomes a starter a couple of times. The same experience happens in his Philadelphia Sixers tenure last season where he only started 6 times. That's one of the reasons why Howard's overall stats that year is far from his average or I considered it low. I'm not really expecting this guy to be one of the assets of the Lakers this upcoming season but since he's a Center and the Lakers are lacking it, he is a good backup.
About Melo, I'm sure he will be more utilized. Vogel must try giving him more playing time as he still has it and his shooting stroke is still good as we have seen in his former team, Portland Trail Blazers. Another good backup role right from the bench.
I totally agree with you, unfortunately these days Howard will be a great reserve for AD (even AD playing as PF and C).About Melo, I'm sure he will be more utilized. Vogel must try giving him more playing time as he still has it and his shooting stroke is still good as we have seen in his former team, Portland Trail Blazers. Another good backup role right from the bench.
I hope we don't see that scene in the 2012/13 or 14 season (I can't remember exactly) where the Lakers had Nash(PG), Kobe(SG), Meta World Peace (SF), Pau Gasol (PF) and Howard (C), they create a excelent team to fight on equal terms against the Heat in that time (LeBron, Wade, Bosh, Ray Allen and others players), but amazingly, this Lakers team was a real fiasco.
I sincerely hope Howard can perform better in the Lakers than his last appearance on the team.
He already did good a good performance with the Lakers during his last stint, helping them to win the title (remember how he guarded Jokic that time, using his experience with this mind games), and then he says that he will be staying with the Lakers and then at the last minutes sign with the Sixers and he is back again. Regarding that 2012/2013 with that line up, most of them are really way past their prime and then some ego clashing.
With healthy Jamal and with the same lineup It's very possible to see this at the finals, though I'm also eyeing for the warriors with
a healthy splash bro and a possible Simmons, I'll wait if this would happened.
Oh yeah, splash brothers are back on the field. a healthy splash bro and a possible Simmons, I'll wait if this would happened.
Let's not forget Draymond the wise.
That guy is scary underneath the rim and even in the offensive transition plays. If ever they decide to take Simmons, there will be more trouble for other teams attacking the paint when both Ben and Draymond have a good lateral quickness that could stop even agile players.
West is full. Throw some in the East. Oops, they just did. Schroder $5.9m 1-year contract at Celtics.
Yeah I would have loved to see a healthy Jamal and the Nugs breakthrough this definitely was a year they could. West is up in the air. A healthy kahwi team could contend, healthy warriors team can, Lakers, Utah, Suns, etc etc. West is real deep so long as they are healthy. Should be a fun upcoming year.
From all the listed players from the poll, it's only Kawhi haven't got any updates is he going to stay with the Clippers? update: (he' going to re-sign a contract still fnalizing terms) if he'll stay and if he played with a healthy condition they still have the title contender not as heavy favorite but still a caliber team who can chase it.
Those teams that you mentioned are all have equal chance to win this title, though we still don't have updates from the final rosters of each franchise it surely going to be a fun season this coming year.
Just love to see how coaches will use those 5 stars rotating them with roles players to avoid getting serious injuries.
Guys, guys. It's no question they all have the attitude. Men's ego and pride. How much more when they become a superstar?
Lebron James kicking and picking his own players to play with like they are flowers in the field while they are not even his own land and he didn't water them.
Schroder thinks he is a star and no doubt Lebron thinks the same way and their egos are battling on the shadows. This happened with IT (Isaiah Thomas) too while he was in Cleveland.
Celtics will not be as bad of a drop point for Schroder. Brown's wrist injury may need some rehabilitation to avoid going back. He could be a good wingman for Tatum if that happens or be the best bench player and finally seal that Sixth Man of the Year award and boost his worth. (runner-up OKC 2019-2020)
Men's ego and pride. How much more when they become a superstar? Lebron James kicking and picking his own players to play with like they are flowers in the field while they are not even his own land and he didn't water them.
Schroder thinks he is a star and no doubt Lebron thinks the same way and their egos are battling on the shadows. This happened with IT (Isaiah Thomas) too while he was in Cleveland.
Celtics will not be as bad of a drop point for Schroder. Brown's wrist injury may need some rehabilitation to avoid going back. He could be a good wingman for Tatum if that happens or be the best bench player and finally seal that Sixth Man of the Year award and boost his worth. (runner-up OKC 2019-2020)
Hehehe, so much argument about the Dennis Schroder case: Dennis Schröder agrees to one-year, $5.9 million deal with Celtics.
So let's see if he can blend with Tatum and Jaylen Brown in the Celtics uniform, but as far as the money goes, well it's obvious he didn't gave what he wanted for.
Dennis Schroder’s rejection of the Lakers 80 million dollar contract has to be one of the biggest blunders ever. I’m happy he did it, because it was obvious he wasn’t worth the 80 million dollars, but seeing him now try to negotiate a 5 million dollar contract which he may not even get to play on a worse team has to be humbling for him. He’ll lose 15 million dollars this year alone for gambling on himself. I guess if you’re going to bet on yourself you need a firm grasp on reality. My bet is that Schroder never again has the opportunity to make 80 million dollars.
What a total waste of money and for sure he will regret his decision for his entire life imagine he wasted that 80 million dollar contract and try to ask for more when he didn't give anything to his team yet. Now for sure he will struggle to get that 80 million $ contract back especially if he fails to give a good performance to the team where he accept the offers. I guess this is the start where his career ends so hopefully he will give his best shot if he can get a contract so that he can increase his value if not 80 million but for a decent amount.
Dennis Schroder’s rejection of the Lakers 80 million dollar contract has to be one of the biggest blunders ever. I’m happy he did it, because it was obvious he wasn’t worth the 80 million dollars, but seeing him now try to negotiate a 5 million dollar contract which he may not even get to play on a worse team has to be humbling for him. He’ll lose 15 million dollars this year alone for gambling on himself. I guess if you’re going to bet on yourself you need a firm grasp on reality. My bet is that Schroder never again has the opportunity to make 80 million dollars.
Yeah I would have loved to see a healthy Jamal and the Nugs breakthrough this definitely was a year they could. West is up in the air. A healthy kahwi team could contend, healthy warriors team can, Lakers, Utah, Suns, etc etc. West is real deep so long as they are healthy. Should be a fun upcoming year.
It's worth noting that the Nuggets looked great at the end of the previous season, even without Jamal. By the way, there will be a very strong competition in the West Conference, and I think that now it's difficult to predict which teams will meet in the WCF, although the Lakers will be favorites for me.
Yeah I would have loved to see a healthy Jamal and the Nugs breakthrough this definitely was a year they could. West is up in the air. A healthy kahwi team could contend, healthy warriors team can, Lakers, Utah, Suns, etc etc. West is real deep so long as they are healthy. Should be a fun upcoming year.
It's worth noting that the Nuggets looked great at the end of the previous season, even without Jamal. By the way, there will be a very strong competition in the West Conference, and I think that now it's difficult to predict which teams will meet in the WCF, although the Lakers will be favorites for me. unfortunately these days Howard will be a great reserve for AD (even AD playing as PF and C).
I hope we don't see that scene in the 2012/13 or 14 season (I can't remember exactly) where the Lakers had Nash(PG), Kobe(SG), Meta World Peace (SF), Pau Gasol (PF) and Howard (C), they create a excelent team to fight on equal terms against the Heat in that time (LeBron, Wade, Bosh, Ray Allen and others players), but amazingly, this Lakers team was a real fiasco.
I sincerely hope Howard can perform better in the Lakers than his last appearance on the team.
The path is basically the same. That year they were not so great because Nash was 100 years old and had huge back problems, many smaller players have back problems after playing basketball for over 20 years (these guys play before NBA too, we have to remember that) and that meant that he wasn't 100% himself, plus he was older anyway even on healthy situations and not the MVP Nash we all remember. Kobe got injured that same year, and Howard was injured for a little while as well.I hope we don't see that scene in the 2012/13 or 14 season (I can't remember exactly) where the Lakers had Nash(PG), Kobe(SG), Meta World Peace (SF), Pau Gasol (PF) and Howard (C), they create a excelent team to fight on equal terms against the Heat in that time (LeBron, Wade, Bosh, Ray Allen and others players), but amazingly, this Lakers team was a real fiasco.
I sincerely hope Howard can perform better in the Lakers than his last appearance on the team.
Only players that were healthy as far as I remember were Gasol and Artest which doesn't mean much. Plus they were not deep neither. Same goes for this Lakers as well, Melo is old, very old, Lebron gets injured, he had it on his first years at Lakers and last year as well, AD gets injured all the time, like constantly throughout his career, and Westbrook is getting to that age as well, who knows? So injuries could keep them from being anything at all, barely make it to playoffs, if it happens. If not and they are healthy then....
C'mon. Giannis still didn't gain the respect that he deserved.
He did great in the Finals changing the way NBA fans view basketball again. It's not just about 3 point shots anymore the inside game was brought back to life.
but he already accomplished what all the stars wanted from this league, league MVP, all star MVP and a title for his name, good enough to complete a resume naming a superstar inside all the stars of the league.Quote
Nuggets vs Bucks this year. Offense in the paint will be resurrected. Jokic vs Giannis.
With healthy Jamal and with the same lineup It's very possible to see this at the finals, though I'm also eyeing for the warriors with Offense in the paint will be resurrected. Jokic vs Giannis. a healthy splash bro and a possible Simmons, I'll wait if this would happened.
Yeah I would have loved to see a healthy Jamal and the Nugs breakthrough this definitely was a year they could. West is up in the air. A healthy kahwi team could contend, healthy warriors team can, Lakers, Utah, Suns, etc etc. West is real deep so long as they are healthy. Should be a fun upcoming year.
C'mon. Giannis still didn't gain the respect that he deserved.
He did great in the Finals changing the way NBA fans view basketball again. It's not just about 3 point shots anymore the inside game was brought back to life.
but he already accomplished what all the stars wanted from this league, league MVP, all star MVP and a title for his name, good enough to complete a resume naming a superstar inside all the stars of the league.Quote
Nuggets vs Bucks this year. Offense in the paint will be resurrected. Jokic vs Giannis.
With healthy Jamal and with the same lineup It's very possible to see this at the finals, though I'm also eyeing for the warriors with Offense in the paint will be resurrected. Jokic vs Giannis. a healthy splash bro and a possible Simmons, I'll wait if this would happened.
NBA managements, aside from the fine money is also looking for some sort of respect. They implement the rules and every team and players
are not exempt and needs to follow the rules that they signed after participating to this organization.
Respect. Hmm, I think they had that before. It's just that, team management could be excited about their new addition to the roster that's why it was earlier a minute, an hour or before they open the trades. It's still the trade day, and maybe just a different timeline. are not exempt and needs to follow the rules that they signed after participating to this organization.
The defending champ is +800, it's the same lineup, so I think they are undervalued here.
C'mon. Giannis still didn't gain the respect that he deserved.He did great in the Finals changing the way NBA fans view basketball again. It's not just about 3 point shots anymore the inside game was brought back to life.
Nuggets vs Bucks this year.
Offense in the paint will be resurrected. Jokic vs Giannis. 
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Here's the betting odds for NBA championship in the next season. Lakers is current 2nd to the nets as the favorites to win.
https://www.nba.com/nbabet/nba-title-odds-nets-lakers-early-betting-favorites-for-2022-season
The defending champ is +800, it's the same lineup, so I think they are undervalued here.
Here's the betting odds for NBA championship in the next season. Lakers is current 2nd to the nets as the favorites to win.
https://www.nba.com/nbabet/nba-title-odds-nets-lakers-early-betting-favorites-for-2022-season
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2022 NBA Title Odds
Odds as of July 21 via DraftKings
TEAM ODDS
Nets +210
Lakers +450
Bucks +800
Odds as of July 21 via DraftKings
TEAM ODDS
Nets +210
Lakers +450
Bucks +800
The defending champ is +800, it's the same lineup, so I think they are undervalued here.
^^ Yeah, being the defending champ and only rank 3rd as the favorite, doesn't make sense.
Bucks is definitely undervalued with those odds. I actually like their chances of retaining their title when they didn't make major changes in their roster. I think the bookies are using the big names as basis which is also acceptable for now. It's a great chance for Bucks fans to win big nonetheless.
That's amazing move to their management since they settle to improve their current line up than getting those big stars and work again with chemistry which for sure takes time. I'm still confident that bucks will still give a good fight just to reach the finals eventhough there are teams who recruit strong players to play with them next season. Lets see one next season on how bucks will defend their title since many strong teams has been build up and they are huge threat on winning the champ.
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